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I know it’s a small sample size but MR scored both of his playoff goals sitting right out in front of the net. If he gets traded it better be for a BIG difference maker. Marco has a ton of upside.13 points
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If we trade Rossi for another young D-man I'm done trying to understand bill's long-term plan and will determine that there is no plan12 points
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In what world does a defensively responsible 60 point CENTER have less value than a defensively average 60 point WING? I swear BG has created a legion of bobblehead fans that will swallow ANYTHING he claims. Rossi is TWO!!!!! pound lighter than Peterka! This entire article is INSANE!12 points
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The longer this Rossi thing continues, the increased likelihood of BG fubar-ing this thing up.11 points
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-2 on the whole year isn't horrible, especially if there was a run of injuries that affected things. When Faber was merely eating minutes, to get us through games, that was useful too. Personally, I felt that the 4 nations tournament was too much for Faber with his responsibilities on the team. I thought he came back looking drained, more so than Boldy did. I do think Buium will help, but I still see a logjam at the position. I'd really like to see a Jiricek-Brodin pairing, and a Buium-Spurgeon pairing. That leaves Middleton-Faber as a pairing that has been successful in the past. I think with those pairings, you could probably just role the pairings and give them pretty much equal time. This will help Faber with his minutes and probably give him more in the tank as the season goes on. There is also the possibility Faber simply went through a sophomore slump and will be better next season. Remember, in '24, Midsy had a pretty bad +/-, but he rebounded this season.11 points
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I fully agree with the writer. Let's not forget that MN was among the top teams after the first quarter of the season. The only thing that really hurt us were the injuries and the bad special teams. Regarding this off-season, we are basically replacing players that had less of an impact with fresh young talent: Brazeau < Öhgren Nyqvist < Yurov Bogo < Jiricek Chisholm < Buium If we add another quality player, the team will have a great core. There is more upside in the team than risk: Regression candidates: Zucc, Spurgeon, Bogo, Foligno Improvement candidates: Rossi, Boldy, Brock, Hartmann, Trenin Workload management can help to keep the older players away from injuries and fresh for the second half. Additionally, a full season of Spurge, Ek and Kap will make this team significantly better. We should not overreact and burn assets for short term promises. Get a star producing (+60 points) winger via UFA, extend Rossi and we are set. Only if the market is heating up and GMs get desperate we should try to capitalize. Would hate to see Öhgren or Lambos go. Both of the will he NHL ready at some point next season.10 points
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Great article Tony. Like you say, there are not many options out there that would make us considerably better. Better to hold out and see what transpires. There is the 2026 free agent class that if they do not resign, they may be available for trade during the year, or at the trade deadline, much like Ranty was last year. Sometimes it is better to be patient and get what you want than to do something just for the sake of doing it.10 points
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Well, when they make that trade you'll get to have a big, big laugh, won't you?10 points
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Any article that paints Addison in any sort of positive light is an immediate,"WTF" from me10 points
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Things happen. Last week I put my self into the hospital with tingling under the jaw and inside forearms. Turns out I was having a mild heart attack. Heart cath the next day, stent put in and another night in the hospital. I think I've got a couple of weeks of "taking it easy" ahead of me. Let's just say I had an eventful May. I haven't seen much of ODC or Protec on the board. Perhaps they're working out improving their handicap? I certainly hope all is well. For you guys a little younger than me out there, when something doesn't quite feel right, get checked out by someone who knows. I had a heart attack 15 years ago which was much more severe and triple bypass 5 years ago. I can tell you that getting to the hospital before your symptoms get serious plays a huge role in the amount of recovery time you will have. A triple bypass is always better when scheduled (like I did) than when done on an emergency basis. This time, my symptoms weren't as great as 15 years ago, and recovery is already way ahead of that. Stay healthy out there, Wilderness!10 points
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This is all moot if Guerin actually finds a good player that is a no-brainer 1st/2nd line guy, maybe two or three. It only sucks if Mojo is 2nd line wing by default again. THAT would be true failure. A fast moving 30 point player making league minimum is hardly an issue if he's depth only. Next you're gonna tell me Gaudreau is worthless or something. I want Ohgren and Yurov to be studs. But the Ohgren we saw last year was barely as good as Johansson. He has to find a gear that makes him qualified to be a 2nd or 3rd line guy over a vet.10 points
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Why is the assumption that Guerin is going to make a bad move? Guerin made an offer before the season that Rossi's agents decided was not enough. Nobody knows what offer the Rossi camp would have accepted before the season. If the best offer Guerin is fielding is the 15th pick in the draft, Rossi will be playing for the Wild next season.9 points
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The NHL's salary cap is on the rise, but the league's economy might be about to grind to a halt. There's a flow to player movement. There are usually a group of teams looking to reset their competitive window, and a team of buyers looking to fuel them with futures for the price of taking the sellers' good players off their hands. But unless a team is interested in the Pittsburgh Penguins and their slightly used Rickard Rakell or Bryan Rust, that might not happen this offseason. Pierre LeBrun of The Athletic recently quoted a GM as saying, "Almost everyone is looking to add or get better." That's bad news for the Minnesota Wild, for whom the buyout shackles are finally off their wrist and are ready to make a splash. In a world where the Buffalo Sabres were looking to trade Tage Thompson, the Detroit Red Wings were shopping Dylan Larkin, or Brady Tkachuk was trying to find a way to leave the Ottawa Senators, the Wild might have been able to do that. But in a world where even last-place teams like the Chicago Blackhawks or San Jose Sharks are done trying to bottom out? The road for the Wild to improve gets a lot rockier. Or does it? "I don't want to sit on my hands at all, and I'm kind of tired of doing that," Bill Guerin said in May, In March, he said, "[July is] going to be a time where organizationally, we make a step." However, Minnesota might be in as good a position as anyone to improve without a huge shake-up. The Wild only punched their ticket to the playoffs in the last 20 seconds of the season, when Joel Eriksson Ek scored a game-tying goal against a dreadful Anaheim Ducks team to clinch their spot. While that suggests the Wild are a bubble playoff team, the truth is that with a reasonably healthy year from Kirill Kaprizov and Eriksson Ek, Minnesota would have been an easy playoff team. Yes, even with "one hand tied behind their back," as Guerin occasionally says of their cap situation. The Wild are (currently) set to return most of that team from last season, and are already making three major additions, without spending a dime in free agency. Top prospects Zeev Buium, Danila Yurov, and David Jiříček are all expected to be on the roster next year. You can probably add in a fourth by penciling in Liam Öhgren in the lineup. That's the 12th overall pick from last year's draft, plus three top-25 picks from the 2022 Draft. Playoff teams usually aren't in a position to add four highly-touted first-rounders in a single offseason. That's reserved for young, up-and-coming teams after years of painful rebuilding. However, the Wild are in exactly that spot. Of course, it's important to temper expectations a bit. We don't know which players are ready to step into huge roles and which require more time. But even two of those four being ready for prime time next season would make a significant impact. Even beyond the injuries and the prospects, the Wild still have room to improve next year. Their young core currently includes Matt Boldy (24), Marco Rossi (23), and Brock Faber (22). All three players have room to improve next season. The State of Hockey is still waiting for that elusive Boldy breakout season, even though he is coming off a career-high 73-point campaign. Still, the organization and its fans believe there's more meat on that bone. His final 20 games (including playoffs) suggest that, as he scored 11 goals and 24 points over that time. If his 2025-26 season can resemble the first and last 20 games of last year, and not the middle 48, we could see something truly special. Rossi put together a second-straight 20-goal season while managing to take his playmaking up a notch as the Wild's top-line center. The trade rumors surrounding him have been on full blast this offseason, but a combination of a thin center market and Minnesota's not-so-stellar job of selling him could keep him in Minnesota. If Rossi is back in St. Paul, he'll be motivated to either prove to the Wild he's part of their future or put on a show to audition for another spot. His work ethic to get better next season can't be questioned. Then there's Faber, whose disastrous second half plummeted him to the fourth-worst season in the NHL, per Evolving-Hockey's Standings Points Above Replacement. Faber cost the Wild 3.3 points in the standings last season. Still, no one believes that it represents his true talent level. With a smarter plan to keep his workload in check, Faber should look much better as a top-pairing defenseman. Sure, it might be preferable to see the Wild add a bona-fide No. 1 center, if you're not sold on Rossi. But with reasonable health, a wave of prospects arriving, and their young stars continuing their upward trajectory, they might not need a huge shake-up. Suppose Minnesota can limit itself to adding a top-six winger around the edges. Then, it would complement a promising core without ripping out any of the foundation of what the organization is building. As loath as Guerin is to sit on his hands, it might be the best way to set up the Wild to win in the near term.9 points
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Even if we can't pick up a top 6 center in Free Agency this off-season, it's not all bad. First of all, that's a challenge most off-seasons as teams just don't give those players up until well after their primed - and if they do it's in trades or the free agent doesn't likely have the Wild high on potential destinations. Secondly, we just got some cap flexibility back. The worst thing we can do is get into a bidding war just because we have the cap space to throw around. That includes Rossi. Offer him a fair contract, but if he wants the moon, then maybe it's just not going to work out. Thirdly, look at players that can add some offense (ideally someone who is regularly in that 20-30 goal range). If Rossi continues to hold out, then to at least we partially replace his production. If he signs too, then even better. Also see #2. Fourth, try to leave some cap space to work with at the trade deadline. Fifth, get someone with a good history of developing players down in Iowa and keep working them. Ideally some progress and a few more start knocking hard on the door for 2026-27 (Lambos/Bankier, I'm mostly looking at you). I'd like to see both show well in training camp, and be among the first as injury call-ups during the season. Show everyone you belong in the NHL.9 points
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The point is that just because a prospect isn’t X lbs or Y feet tall does not guarantee they will be ineffective or unsuccessful. It’s absolutely inept to judge them by their physical dimensions. Makar is a prime example of a player that is smaller than average but has succeeded. The comparison isn’t Makar to Zeev, it’s Makar’s size to what many say is too small to succeed.9 points
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Billy has never been good at driving the value up on assets he wants to sell. He ended up getting very good return on Fiala, but definitely did not help himself when he sewered Fiala in several press conferences and dropped him to third line at times. Rossi has been a masterclass in asset mismanagement. Whether you want him on the team or not, Billy should have been trying to drive up his value, not pigeon hole him on the 4th line and repeatedly, both explicitly and implicitly, broadcast how you don't want him. We've been desperate for centers for years and have developed a 60pt center that we now want nothing to do with. His playoffs weren't the best, despite him getting production out of the forth line. I believe it was a result of Rossi playing hurt which he admitted in the closing media availability even if it didn't require surgery. Either way, Billy decidedly burned his chance for a bridge deal. Hopefully Billy pulls some more Fiala magic out of his butt as I think this is the litmus test for BG as to whether he is the right guy or not moving forward. If he can swing JJ Petrka then i will be happy, even if he has to sweeten things with a prospect or pick. If we end up with picks out of Rossi, my pitchfork is coming out. #ThePitchforkIsReady9 points
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I think he'd look good in a Blackhawks sweater. But knowing Billy he will deal him to his good friends the Pittsburgh Penguins for 3 used pucks and the office chair Billy used to have there because Billy really liked that chair.9 points
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One of the biggest failings from the team last year was lack of offense from Bogo, Merrill, and Chisholm. Playing mistake free or at least risk avoidant hockey is nice, but it comes at a price. What I saw out of Jiricek's limited minutes was a guy trying to be more than a "warm body.". Even at a young age, he was better than his defensive partner Dermott, who was the definition of waiver wire pickup. Chisholm also made far too many mistakes late in the season to trust him over giving Buium and Jiricek the nod. Something has to give. I don't think it is either Brodin nor Spurgeon just yet. Reminder, Suter holds the season record for Wild points by a defenseman (49). Bogo, Merrill, and Chisholm together accounted for 30-35. Lane Hutson of the Canadiens by HIMSELF in a rookie year got 60-65... If Buium and Jiricek together come anywhere close to Hutson's offensive impact, the Wild blueline suddenly feels a lot more dangerous.9 points
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1-2 yr contract ~$6M for Rossi seems best at this point, I'd much rather have Rossi than Zegras any day. According to Russo, they offered him a bridge contract <$5M. Like it or not, they just don't want to pay him what the market bares because they don't value him. They overpay for a plug like Trenin. The thinning center market is better for the Wild, but also better for Rossi's negotiating leverage. The Wild made two mistakes, not re-signing him prior to last season, then sticking him on the fourth line in the playoffs.8 points
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Nobody should be trading their top 6 center for #15 in this year's draft. This is a week draft. Don't fall for the hype. Besides, #15 is an underpayment. If Vancouver gets Rossi, nothing less than Pettersson (the center) will do.8 points
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If Edmonton had the Wilds D they would be hoisting the cup right now.8 points
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Can’t wait to watch him, and other rookies this year.8 points
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With the free agency market looking incredibly lacking in talent, I would tend to agree that the best route is to hold our cards and retain Rossi. 2026 free agency looks far better or even the TDL this year. Why overpay now? As highlighted by Tony above, we have 4 rookies looking to be in the mix and should see what we have before wholesaling young talent to get a 1c. It will be a good growing year. Let's not fool ourselves into believing that this team, as it was last year, is one piece away. Let's develop some prospects and see where we sit at TDL. Move when it makes sense, not just because we have money to spend.8 points
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I doubt Bennett, Duchene, and Tavares want to come to the Wild. Other than Peterka and Byram, no one has been publicly hassled as "they want out.". So just stop with the Touch, Thompson, Larkin, and Tkachuk things until their team insiders stir shit like Russo does on a weekly basis. Funny how the one time Guerin might let the floodgates open and have 5-6 rookies make the team, it's suddenly a bad idea. Well, a bad idea to Brady's biggest fan anyway. But playing fantasy GM must be fun. Rossi just wants to play. The Wild aren't guaranteed any outside help. Get it from the inside first.8 points
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So your argument is that because Rossi played better when all of the Wilds best players were injured he is worth less? Yeah that sounds like BG type of thinking!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂 Also, Rossi got 10% more ice time this year to last and yet produced 50% more points. That is a HUGE increase in production. You can't blame him for the post season. They didn't let him play.8 points
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That's the whole point, the Wild are searching for something they already have. Something that will only get better, but they will replace him with a vet that will only get worse and cost more.8 points
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Off topic, but did everyone see that Dallas fired DeBoer?8 points
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Getting the absurdity of playing Beckman and Addison out of the way., the point of the article was "tank." That is fine in theory, but would that have sit well with Kap? I don't really know. Montreal and Ottawa got bounced in the same round as the Wild with their homegrown "talent.". The "Yzerplan" has yet to launch in Detroit. Buffalo...well, uh. We don't need to go there. Also, it took Edmonton 20 years to get their two rebuilds to work cause Hall/RNH/Yakupov wasn't it. There are probably as many examples of failed tanks as good ones.8 points
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I don't see this as a big loss. The IA Wild have not been doing a good job of getting these kids ready for the move to the N. Boldy, Rossi and Ek barely spent any time there and we've gotten very little from IA. Players that were supposed to step in an fill roles ended up flopping. Get these kids on weight training programs to increase speed and strength... feed them the proper foods to build that muscle and work on skill and skating until their ankles fall off. Those that commit to it heart and soul should move to the N with confidence rather than trepidation. You can't build through the draft unless you have a proper process in place.8 points
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I think 5'-5" 140# Cole Caufield is signed for just under 8. Rossi isn't that small and he goes in front of the net goes into the corners and fights for the puck. It's a mistake to think he isn't worth it because he's 1 or 2 inches short of some 'so called' cutoff line...8 points
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Played all 82 games. Scored 24 goals (only 7 of the goals being on the power play) and 36 assists for 60 points as a responsible center and is only 23 years old. He was +3 on the year, has a 200 foot game and averaged 18 minutes of ice time and played well in the 3v3 OT games. Why are we trading him? Rossi can flat out play. I hope he stays in MN. The only issue would be his salary. Jared McCann signed his $5M/AAV deal when he only had 50 points in 2021 but with 8 fewer games. Anthony Cirelli signed at 6.25M after only a 29 point year in 58 games. Rossi has to be north of 6.25M. BG's offer of $5M was too low. If we get to July someone in this league will offer Rossi $7.5M/AAV or higher, which doesn't have a bad draft return.7 points
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He has potential and plays a hard game despite his height, and would seamlessly fit into any team's top six (or at least, middle six). Sounds like the type of player we need. 😐7 points
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WAIT. HOLD THE FRICKING PHONES...you're telling me we could have had TWO Charlie Stramel's in our farm system?! Someone grab the tar and feathers, we gots to nail SillyG over this one...7 points
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None at all. Especially when you consider it would likely take 3 or 4 seasons for us to even see them hit the NHL. Jiricek will be here next year or, at the latest, the year after. Full time. Its like we gave up the extra picks to get a guy with a shorter timeline to impact for us. I'm absolutely fine with that, personally. If the goal is to become a Cup contender during Kaprizov's prime then Jiricek fits that window far more than any of these potential draft picks.7 points
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He's very playable on the 3rd pairing. He will almost certainly become a high end player for line 3 if that's where he's playing down the road, but he could be a 2nd pairing defenseman like Middleton. Jiricek will likely be worth more than the 20th pick from this draft, especially over the next 4 seasons. 3rd pairing defensemen generally still play a quarter of each game, so he could be worth more than a 3rd or 4th line forward even if he doesn't elevate beyond the 3rd pairing, but there are reasons to believe that he could.7 points
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See, the thing with SillyG is that when it makes a ton of sense to trade a player, and the fans are all expecting it (Dumba) he holds the dude and mumbles something about 'sometimes the best trade is no trade' or 'picks arent worth as much as people give credit for' Then, other times, he puts guys in the absolute dog house, and takes the first trade that comes along (Fiala). Mumbles something about how 'sure i could have gotten more, but this guy is dogshit and I dont want other GM's to not be my buddy anymore, anybody want to pick up my tab at Tooties?!?!' Maybe our scouting staff had Faber pegged as a sure thing, but I feel its more likely that a blind squirrel found his rare nut. I think Rossi is going to be traded, and I think the return is going to be absolutely underwhelming.7 points
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Good. Get things figured out with Rossi so they aren't running Hartman, Gaudreau, or Yurov at 2C.7 points
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I see it as an Iowa Wild problem first and foremost. We’re just not getting enough development from our AHL team.7 points
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I have been curious about this for a while. Guerin lets Brackett do his thing (falling talent, hoping to find rebounders/faster puck movers), while Guerin seems unimpressed with that when in crunch time. The weird thing is most the team is still Fletcher or Fenton talent. Middleton, Faber, and Gus were all gotten his trade. Rossi is the first drafted player to have significant exposure. My hope is Guerin, Rossi, and the agent all realize that talent wins out on the end, and Guerin can't afford another Fiala over Dumba thing. What does the team lack? Offense. What does Rossi have a knack for above anything else? Right place right time offensive instincts. There is a value to that, and I think trying to pigeon hole Yurov into Rossi's place before knowing anything is short sighted. If Duchene, Tavares, Giroux, Bennett, etc are off the table (and no trades are biting), just bite the bullet and mend fences.7 points
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Last offseason the Nashville Predators made a huge splash in signing Steven Stamkos ($8Mx4), Jonathan Marchessault ($5.5Mx5) and Brady Skjei ($7x7) in free agency. The Nashville predators finished second to last in the central last season, only ahead of the Blackhawks. Signing high dollar free agents isn't going to guarantee success if they dont fit into what you're trying to build. It'll be interesting to see what SillyG does with the new found cap freedom, but spending like a drunken sailor on pay-day isn't going to guarantee success.7 points
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I'm clearly not a Nojo fan. But at league minimum for a guy that can fill in adequately without giving up goals and play a structured team game that isn't a bad signing. Can't believe I just supported the Nojo signing. But he does need to stay in the press box most of the season. The article does make an excellent point though. Our 2nd line is Zuc, Hartman and Foligno. That is a good 3rd line... but not a 2nd. Our lineup. 1) Boldy, Ek, Kirill 2) Ogren, Yurov, Rossi 3) Zuc, Hartman, Foligno 4) Freddy, Trenin, Vinnie We are asking a lot of that 2nd line with 2 rookies. Rossi is the only Legit Line 2 guy. Our 4th line has issues as well. It isn't Freddy's game to play physical and Vinnie just doesn't have it. If we want to win it needs to be more like the following. 1) Boldy, Ek, Kirill 2) ?, Rossi ? 3) Ogren, Yurov, Zuc 4) Hartman, Trenin, Foligno Yep, we are missing two essential line 2 players... and that is if we keep Rossi and Ogren and Yurov make it. Big Question marks there... Good Luck BG.7 points
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BUF: Marco Rossi, David Spacek, Michael Milne, 2026 3rd round pick, 2027 4th round pick MIN: JJ Peterka either Peterka is mcdavid in waiting or Rossi’s market value is MUCH lower than his agent thinks.7 points
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Like a good neighbor, Johansson is there! From puckpedia, I didn't see any designations for Johansson. This means that waiving and sending to Iowa is no problem. The same goes again for Gaudreau, though he would cost us $1m in dead cap to send down with just an NTC. Money is the only thing holding them up here as they would get their full salaries down in Iowa. Honestly, we could probably use a few guys who had NHL salaries down there. Like I-5, I see this merely as insurance. Now Johansson can get back to Sweden and have a nice summer break and know where he is going to be at training camp. Note to the rookies: Johansson is 5'11" 203 and skates fast. He doesn't bury shots and isn't an assist machine, nor does he consistently take the body. This is what you have to beat! Now, go do it.6 points
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Vet min for a guy who doesn't dazzle but isn't horrendous. 800k isn't enough money to block anyone from taking that spot, if someone like Heidt, Haight, or Ritchie shows up to camp and plays well enough to EARN and spot and BEAT OUT NoJo, now you have an 800k insurance policy due to injury instead of an AHL player who may not be ready. "The fact that signing somebody to a 1-year contact at less than 1 million dollars is going to stir controversy and strong opinions is enough of an indicator that this team is headed in the wrong direction." I guess I don't see why this is controversial outside of people need it to be. The ask was for signing top 6 guys to help out and add size and scoring, this signing is not that, in fact it helps that possibility by having a player who is a vet, is not injury prone, and can chip in (he put up more than Hartman did during the season but due to a 5 game stretch in round 1 he seems to get a pass). If he produces 11 g and 23a playing on line 3 or 4 for that price, that would be great. In FA you will over pay and have less money to spend elsewhere, and you still need to fill out all lines, not just top 2. BUT, and big but, if NOJO is the mainstay line 2 guy again, then this is a failure, line 3 or 4/ insurance policy then I am not mad about it. I am willing to wait and see how the offseason shakes out before grabbing my torch and pitchfork because none of us know what may happen.6 points
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Billl Guerin is an idiot and I absolutely think he is NOT the guy to turn this team around. I think personality wise based on articles from Russo and the Athletic that he's a piece of shit human. I also think he's a terrible GM that is more interested in signing players "like him" than he is on icing the best talent. His obsession with signing aging vets is problematic. The fact that signing somebody to a 1-year contact at less than 1 million dollars is going to stir controversy and strong opinions is enough of an indicator that this team is headed in the wrong direction.6 points
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That's why the daily grind is just social media babble. We can speculate all we want (fun or frustrating exercises they are), but the only things that ever matter are "This guy has been traded or signed or called up." Coulds, mights, may, and maybes mean nothing in the end.6 points
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Is that so he can be ~20lbs heavier than Cale Makar? Because Makar should get cut he's so worthless (sarcasm...)6 points
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In fairness, in 2020 when we drafted, Faber had not played a game yet at the U. By the time the trade was made he had played two years there. A little easier to evaluate what he might be at that point.6 points
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Exactly, WildNotMild. Guerin still has an offramp ahead of this muli-car pileup of his own creation and that is to tell Rossi's camp that he has not handled the situation well, offer Marco the $7M/7YR Boldy deal, and tell Rossi that he will work to build a better team around the core. A characteristic of true genius is knowing when you have made mistakes and correcting them.6 points
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Out of those, Peterka is the only one that really interests me. If we are trading Rossi, I'd want a young-ish player that has had some success in the NHL and still hasn't hit his ceiling - essentially a player that is much like Rossi is now. Of course, I'd want a deal already in place to sign Peterka as part of that. If he is willing, I could see that working. Yes, he's a winger and shoots left, but he's easily an upgrade over someone like Johansson and is a lot better (and has upside) compared to most of what we would find in free agency. There will be a bidding war for anyone comparable to him stats-wise or better on July 1. I'm less interested in picks or aging vets unless they are players with a lot of recent history of having 30+ goals a season and they seem like they still have a lot of gas in the tank. If they are on the decline, no thanks, we've traded for enough of those over the years while giving away young talent. Losing a center would hurt though. I know the team has indicated that they are going to give Yurov opportunities at center, which is fine, but I'd much rather have more true centers on the roster than wingers that can play center. I feel like we mostly have a bunch of wingers that can play center. If a team is going to have excess at any position, an excess of centers is better than anything else.6 points