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  1. I hate beating the Rossi drum, I really do, but Billy is about to make another big mistake. Let's put it into perspective. 24-25: Rossi GP82 G24 A36 P60 +3 Age 23 $6-7M Nelson GP80 G26 A30 P56 +6 Age 33 $7.4M Boeser GP75 G25 A25 P50 -25 Age 28 $8.2M Sam Bennet GP76 G25 A26 P51 -15 Age 28 $7.5M Rossi will continue to improve, the other three will only decline. Rossi is young and a long term contract is much safer and probably cheaper. So what if he isn't a power forward, he could easily replace Zuccy.
    15 points
  2. The first month may be a bit difficult with 4 rookies (Yurov, Ohgren, Buium and Jiricek). But if we give them the minutes to learn it should pay long term dividends. Play them. We don't make it in the playoffs without them getting better.
    14 points
  3. All I've gotta say is if they trade him they better WIN the GD trade! No WTF did he do now, or well, that's an even trade, he needs to hands down win it. Rossi's gonna be good and depending where he goes he easily could be top 6 on a SC champion team. There are plenty of small top 6 guys with their names written on the Cup. and Rossi def has the talent to be one of them. I'd say a 20 point increase in production from your first to second season is a nice sign that things are clicking for you. Especially when you have to play throughout the lineup.
    14 points
  4. 14 points
  5. What a bad look. Loosing patience with a 22yr old, while he had a 40pt season, because he isn't a PP specialist? He is one of our best at 5V5 by the stats and is playing on the second PP. Give your head a shake. How about we take a look see at how Gaudreau and Nojo are doing at 5V5 and wonder why the hell they get passes while we consider trading one of the few bright spots on this season. Going to look really bad to the rest of the prospects if Guerin considers Rossi's season not good enough. Meanwhile Gaudreau can crater any offense from his line continually all year and not even get the Prosser Box treatment.
    14 points
  6. I know it’s a small sample size but MR scored both of his playoff goals sitting right out in front of the net. If he gets traded it better be for a BIG difference maker. Marco has a ton of upside.
    13 points
  7. Good playoff teams have an abundance of center depth. The Wild don’t even with Rossi. With trade proposals of sending Rossi plus other prospects to land a better, older and more expensive center, we don’t end up with more centers. Yurov might be another center, but who knows if and when that might happen. Plus, we are counting on the other top prospects (Yurov, Wally, Ohgren, Buium) to make the team next year. Trading any of them out with Rossi just creates another lineup hole or holes to fill. And we are already down some picks from GMBG’s moves this year. I think Hartman played very well in the playoffs, but Rossi should’ve been switched with Gaudreau. Freddy is a great teammate, but he shouldn’t be playing above 4th minutes and maybe not at all on a contender. Getting rid of Rossi all but guarantees that Gaudreau will be one of the main centers. I think Hartman is better suited to be a backup/depth center on his line, but again with the Wild’s lack of centers, he has to be one of the main guys. The Wild have been starved for centers and scoring forever, so of course, management wants to get rid of an actual homegrown center with tremendous offseason work ethic who plays two way hockey and scored 60 points in his second season. No where did I say Rossi is more important than Kaprizov, that Rossi is the best ever or that he deserves 8.5M or more per year. The Wild need MORE centers and more offense. Rossi checks both boxes BEFORE playing his third season.
    13 points
  8. I know many think we will trade him. Others say he isn’t built for the playoffs because of his size. In reality, we have no idea if he can play in the playoffs. He has played one game and 12 minutes. I don’t think playing on the 4th line tonight will help. I am not saying Rossi is as good as the following players, but he is 23 and has room to grow. So those who say he can’t be a playoff performer because of his size think the following players are not either? Brad Marchand: 5’9 180 pounds Patrick Kane: 5’10 175 pounds Brayden Point: 5’10 183 Johnny Gaudreau: (RIP) 5’9 165 Jonathan Marchessault: 5’9 180
    13 points
  9. I would guess that patient teams end up with more assets to make moves when they truly need them--the Wild winning a cup this year doesn't seem possible, so trading for a more interesting team today doesn't excite me. Teams that try to accelerate their success often fail to reach the ultimate goal when they run out of assets to make a move to put them over the top. Ohgren could be part of a trade at some point, but he has a really bright future and may end up more productive in a couple of years than guys you could trade him for right now. The Wild currently have a pipeline of prospects that could improve the team along with cap space to do so. Trading assets now for players the Wild could get in the offseason doesn't seem like the best way to maximize assets for future years. Yes, I'm always fearful of the next Hanzal deal. That deal made the team worse in both the season he was obtained and in future years. Dallas selected both Jake Oettinger and Jason Robertson with picks that occurred later than the 1st round selection the Wild traded away in that 2017 draft.
    13 points
  10. We're dinging Marco Rossi for playing well with Kaprizov, now? Isn't that what we've wanted a center to do?
    13 points
  11. "Minnesota’s young talent is being blocked out by guys who don’t deserve to be ahead of them on the depth chart. " I wonder if people writing these articles will ever get tired of this. None of the players worth giving roster spots to were available last year (and this year either, in Yurov's case). I'm not pining for the return of Adam Beckman and Sammy Walker, if it's all the same to everyone else. For all the shit Johansson gets, he can at least score goals once in a blue moon. Just because Guerin decided the team should make 1-2 rookies per year a priority instead of just letting 4-5 on all at once, that doesn't mean anyone is blocking them. Rossi/Faber jumped the line in last year; Addison, Walker, Beckman...not so much Ohgren and Khusnutdinov (and Heidt) get their chance Next year "should" be Yurov and Wallstedt. Could we give the whole "blocking players" line a rest please?
    13 points
  12. Serviceable veterans on moderate contracts are easy to move. This is mostly fear mongering. The only way it becomes a "problem" is if ALL of the prospects develop into NHL players. Great problem to have and the same could be said about every NHL club. Am I a fan of the extensions? No. Do they block prospects. Also no.
    13 points
  13. 12 points
  14. Just sign the guy and be done with this stupid saga. The Sabres did the Wild a favor, and getting rid of Gaudreau opened up some cash to sign both Rossi AND Boeser/Ehlers. None of this stops Yurov or Ohgren from making the team next year. If Yurov outplays Rossi after that, fine. This really shouldn't have been so hard. Due diligence is fine, but Kap, Rossi, Top 6 wing, fucking done...overthinking is right.
    12 points
  15. If we trade Rossi for another young D-man I'm done trying to understand bill's long-term plan and will determine that there is no plan
    12 points
  16. In what world does a defensively responsible 60 point CENTER have less value than a defensively average 60 point WING? I swear BG has created a legion of bobblehead fans that will swallow ANYTHING he claims. Rossi is TWO!!!!! pound lighter than Peterka! This entire article is INSANE!
    12 points
  17. I was very worried about how this team would look after their end of the season trickle into the playoffs. In all honesty, I was happy that they looked like a playoff team in this series and actually had a chance to get passed the first round. I was relieved that they didn't embarrass themselves, they showed up to play. I think fatigue caught up with Kaprizov in latter part of the series, which may be a result of being injured for half the season. Same could be said about Ek. I really think this team isn't that far from being a contender. Zeev will look better after 10 to 20 NHL games and I suspect Jiricek will be very interesting if his skating improves. Ogren played well in Iowa and should be ready to contribute next year. Yurov should be in the mix as well. I hope they can pick up a top 6 talent with size this summer, but I'm not overly excited about the free agent class. We might have to get creative to find what we need. This summer could get interesting.
    12 points
  18. Don't fall for this again. Get as many free spots as possible for Yurov, free agents, and other callups.
    12 points
  19. It’s no secret that the Minnesota Wild have struggled to find depth scoring this season, particularly from the fourth line. A quick glance at the organizational depth chart suggests that might not change anytime soon. Minnesota’s fourth line this season has primarily featured: Jakub Lauko (8 career goals in 121 NHL games played) Devin Shore (2 goals in his last 97 NHL games) Marat Khusnutdinov (2 career goals in 63 NHL games played) And Ben Jones (no goals in 26 NHL games played this season) While no team expects their fourth line to fill the back on the net regularly, they hope it can at least control possession so that the top lines can hop on the ice with the puck in the offensive zone as often as possible. However, that’s where the Wild’s fourth-line players have fallen short this season. Take a look at these possession metrics from MoneyPuck: While fourth-line players typically perform below the NHL average, the numbers above demonstrate less-than-ideal output. For context, all Winnipeg Jets forwards who have played significant minutes are above 48% in Corsi and expected goals percentage. In an ideal world, the Wild’s fourth line could produce somewhere in the same vicinity and give the top lines more opportunities to start shifts in the offensive zone each night. On Tuesday, The Athletic reported that Kirill Kaprizov will be out for at least four weeks to undergo surgery for his nagging lower-body injury. Therefore, the Wild’s depth will be tested once again, and it might be time for the Wild to provide other players with opportunities to make positive contributions to the fourth line. They should start with Caedan Bankier. I’ve watched Bankier closely since the Wild took him 86th in the 2021 draft. Most recently, I saw him when I attended the Iowa Wild’s home series against the Rockford Ice Hogs on January 17 and 18. The more I’ve watched Bankier play, the more I’ve become convinced that he’s the Wild’s future third-line center and that he has promise. He’s not ready to fill that role now, but the 6-foot-2, 192-pound center is trending in the right direction. Bankier has earned an opportunity to get a few games with the big squad. It’s been a tough season in Des Moines, where the team has suffered from the fifth-worst save percentage in the AHL. Iowa’s struggles are reflected in the skaters’ counting stats, and Bankier is no exception. He’s posted eight goals and nine assists in 40 games. While that’s unimpressive at first glance, it only tells part of the tale. As he’s developed over the past season and a half in Iowa, Bankier has slowly learned to use his size to influence possession. He has soft hands and makes crisp, accurate passes. These attributes, along with his superior hockey sense and responsible, two-way tendencies, have helped him grow into a player with a mature game that knows how to compete against professional players. He also can win faceoffs from the right side (you’ll have to take my word for it, as the AHL does not publish individual faceoff statistics). Considering that Khusnutdinov has only won 46.1% of draws thus far and has been unable to drive possession, Bankier could represent a clear upgrade, even if only for a few games. At the very least, he looks like a viable call-up option who can provide a different look. Bankier’s pro-level details and quality decision-making make him a reliable player. Consider the below clip from Iowa’s game against Rockford on January 18. None of that stuff is flashy. However, when players do it consistently, it drives winning. When Bankier came off the ice, the Iowa Wild had possession in the offensive zone, and Rockford hadn’t even come close to sniffing an offensive chance. It wasn’t a one-off, either. Bankier has moments like these regularly. Below is an example of him using his size and awareness to maintain possession in the offensive zone from a preseason game against Winnipeg: And lastly, watch him shrug off an attacker as he carries the puck up the wall in the neutral zone: None of this is to say that Bankier is close to a finished product, and there are warts to his game he must correct. He must learn to dictate moments and control pace with the puck on his stick, and he might benefit from a summer training with Andy Ness to add a bit of quickness to his lateral movements. Still, his game is coming along, and Wild fans should be excited. Caedan Bankier has earned the opportunity to play some NHL games, if only so he can be better prepared for when his time arrives. Undoubtedly, he can eventually become a quality third-line center in the NHL. When Wild fans get their first glimpse of him with the big squad, they’ll be able to see why.
    12 points
  20. Collectively, the Wild also had about 195 games from the group of Lettieri, Duhaime, Lucchini, Shaw, Beckman, Petan, Khaira, Raska, and Sammy Walker. That collection of guys combined for 12 goals on the season, with 5 from Lettieri, 4 from Duhaime, 2 from Lucchini, and 1 from Shaw. Khusnutdinov and Ohgren combined for 2 goals in 20 games, and hopefully can build upon that to significantly outpace those 4th line guys from the prior year. And Trenin might deliver more goals than most guys outside the top 6. The Wild definitely need to score more this season, and defend better. We'll see how good Hynes is this year. If Gaudreau only reaches 12 goals in regulation/OT, but rediscovers his shootout touch, that could still impact the standings points as well. The Wild were not strong in shootouts, nor penalty shots, last year.
    12 points
  21. What do newly-signed Yakov Trenin and newly extended Jake Middleton have in common with Marcus Foligno, Freddy Gaudreau, and Ryan Hartman? They're all perfectly fine NHL players who are perfectly able to succeed when in the correct role. What else do they have in common? The correct role for each of them (at least, on an elite team) is either in the bottom-six forwards or on the third defensive pair. The Minnesota Wild have also signed them through the 2026-27 season. All but Hartman are now under contract through the summer of 2028. These five role players are on the books for $16.05 million this upcoming season, a rate that rises to $17.95 million in the two following years. The $16.05 million represents about 18.2% of the current $88 million salary cap, and the $17.95 million comes out to be about 19.5% of the projected $92 million cap for 2025-26. When you allocate 18-19% of the salary cap to 21.7% of the roster, that doesn't sound too bad! Collectively, these players make less than their fair share of the roster. Unfortunately, that's not how NHL economics work. Look at the NHL's most successful teams and what they allocate for their depth players. It quickly becomes clear that the Wild are zagging while the smartest teams zig. The top teams set out to min-max their rosters, prioritizing star power, even at the expense of squeezing out the league's middle class. I'm not writing this out of disdain for role players. Instead, the fact that these "middle-class" players are easier to replace with cheaper, younger depth. If you aren't a top-six forward or a top-four defenseman, it's difficult to justify paying you $4 million when a kid on an ELC can do your job 80-90% as effectively. A world where a loyal member of an organization is unceremoniously phased out for cost-cutting is not a nice world! It's not the world that this hockey blogger would choose! However, it is the reality that the Players Association and league have negotiated. And in it, we have to look at these salaries in terms of how efficiently they utilize the team's resources. Use the Cup Champion Florida Panthers as a model, for example. They poured almost every dollar not nailed down into the top of the roster. Sergei Bobrovsky, Sasha Barkov, Matthew Tkachuk, Aaron Ekblad, and Sam Reinhart combined to make 52.1% of their salary cap. Doing that forced them to get incredible bargains or fill their roster with cost-effective players. They knocked it out of the park on the bargain front. Sam Bennett, Carter Verhaeghe, Brandon Montour, Evan Rodrigues, and Gustav Forsling added up to $17.76 million, less than the Wild will pay their "Five Guys" next year. Oliver Ekman-Larsson ($2.25M) and Niko Mikkola ($2.5M) were the only other players making between $2 and $5 million. Florida's fivesome added up to 16.9 Standings Points Above Replacement last season. Compare that to 2.5 from Minnesota's "Five Guys" last year. As much as the Wild talk about down seasons from the likes of Hartman, Gaudreau, and Foligno, this fivesome was only worth 4.1 SPAR in 2022-23. The Edmonton Oilers also min/maxed their roster, with their top seven players soaking up 56.5% of the cap. They didn't get the amount of home runs that Florida got from their middle-class players, aside from Evan Bouchard ($3.9M). Still, their middle-class bloat was minimal. Their middle class includes Bouchard and starting goalie Stuart Skinner ($2.6M), then Cody Ceci ($3.25M), Warren Foegele ($2.75), and Brett Kulak ($2.75). Not great, but at least they're few and cheap. Go down the line. The Dallas Stars had seven players in their middle-class bracket (adding up to $20.5 million). However, those players included Jake Oettinger, Joe Pavelski, Matt Duchene, and Mason Marchment. You'll take a starting goalie and 74 goals for that price any day, thank you very much. The New York Rangers round out the Conference Finalists. Who was in their middle class? Five players. Top-pairing defenseman K'Andre Miller ($3.872M), 28-goal, 57-point Alexis Lafrenière ($2.235M), Barclay Goodrow ($3.642M), Ryan Lindgren ($3M), and Kaapo Kakko ($2.1M). That's just under $15 million for their middle class, with two impact players in there, and even that was too expensive for New York. The Rangers dumped Goodrow to waivers to clear precious cap room. Sorry to the role players. While the "Five Guys" are the most egregious examples of middle-class bloat, they're far from the limit of its scope. Mats Zuccarello put up 63 points last season, granted, but is turning 37 before the season starts and will make $4.125 in two years. Minnesota didn't (couldn't?) trade Filip Gustavsson, who was a sub-.900 goalie last year and is making $3.75 million next season. Marc-Andre Fleury turns 40 in November and makes $2.5 million against the cap. Marcus Johansson scored just 11 goals and 30 points last year and comes at a $2 million cap hit next season. Add all that up, and that's nine middle-class guys coming in at $28.245 million. Fleury and Johansson come off the books after next season. Still, that's about 26% of the cap devoted to seven players who generally aren't moving the needle. That's not how the top teams do things. They pay the players they can't replace and replace the ones they can when they get too expensive. Minnesota did this once upon a time, developing the likes of Brandon Duhaime and Connor Dewar while bringing in cheaper, younger versions of Hartman, Gaudreau, and Middleton. The cap is going up, and the Wild are about to get nearly $15 million of dead cap coming off the books. They also have talented prospects on ELCs. Therefore, they can afford luxuries; that's indisputable. But if you gave Florida or New York that flexibility to get luxuries they would (and did) spend it on bringing in stars like Tkachuk long-term. If you gave Dallas the ability to afford luxuries, they would (and did) spend it to bring in high-upside plays like Duchene and Marchment on the cheap. What did the Wild splurge on with their future windfall? A handful of role players who will spend most of their deals playing on the third-and-fourth lines and pairings. Guerin must believe that these players, with their grit, jam, etc., are the key to bringing Minnesota where they want to go. He has to be right, or the Wild will find themselves with expensive anchors while the smart teams keep sailing past them.
    12 points
  22. Brad Marchand 5' 9" and 176 pounds Year 2 stats. 20 goals, 21 assists Marco Rossi 5' 9" and 182 pounds Year 2 stats 21 goals, 19 assists. The Wild should be over the moon about Rossi. They have never had a player of this caliber at this age at the center position. Give him decent linemates to play with consistently and his stats will only get better.
    12 points
  23. Trade a #9 overall pick who's scored 21 goals, has good attitude, is cheap and plays center FOR A disgruntled AHL defensemen who cannot crack the vaunted CBJ lineup after we spent a ton of draft capital on d-men last three years. If this happens I'll buy a Nojo jersey and then punch myself in the face until my arm is too tired to punch anymore. Good grief let's change the "Wild want to trade Rossi record".
    12 points
  24. Rossi is 22 years old, and missed an entire year due to myocarditis after getting covid where he though he ask his dad to sleep in his room because he thought he was going to die. He stayed in MN on the offseason to train and missed his sister's wedding to do so. You want a character guy, you got a character guy.
    12 points
  25. This team isn't in "win now" mode. They will be in win now after the cap penalties expire. If they trade Rossi and don't get a fortune in return than it's time to fire BG. He is literally the best center the Wild have ever drafted at this point in his career (yeah I know Ek is better but he wasn't when he was 22). It's certifiably insane to trade him.
    12 points
  26. I think Rossi is safe. A guy who went from an NHL chump to a 20-goal scorer in a season is worth keeping around. Hartman and Gaudreau aren't true center options. They are security blankets in case of emergency. Hartman has done well in Ek's absence, but I highly doubt Guerin is dumb enough to cast Rossi off unless someone came with a good offer. Rossi strikes me a Granlund type guy. He's too good not to give multiple chances at staying center or wing. I think Granlund topped out at 70 pts one year. Give Rossi Ohgren or Yurov instead of Johansson, and you have a killer second line. Guerin is probably going to backfill with Khusnutdinov and Yurov, push Hartman and Gaudreau down, and then hope this injury bullshit is done. Spurgeon is too valuable. Give him a mulligan and see what happens next year.
    12 points
  27. Perfectly fine move. Took advantage of a market that has almost no one to speak of. Anytime you get a decent draft pick for a guy on-track for a six-goal season, you're coming out ahead.
    12 points
  28. The fact that we’re uncertain whether this kid would get a shot over scrub forwards we have filling out this lineup mean Geurin needs to be fired.
    12 points
  29. To be fair, Buium has never played a regular season NHL game and doesn't turn 20 until December. Nobody should be expecting Makar, but if he can be somewhat average on defense and deliver above average minutes coordinating the power play, that could go a long way. Not overly important, but Buium is also pretty young for having played 2 college seasons already. Makar, for example, was a full year older when he finished his 2nd college season and debuted in the playoffs for the Avalanche(averaging 17:22 TOI in that first playoffs fresh out of college). Makar has played 6 NHL regular seasons(7 playoff seasons) and turns 27 in October. Buium will have his first NHL training camp and have time to acclimate to the system this time around. I have high expectations for Buium, but I don't expect him to meet all of them in the upcoming season. He'll almost certainly make numerous mistakes in 2025-2026, but his overall play will hopefully be at a level that the Wild can live with them as long as he's learning and growing from them, developing knowledge and habits that will reduce future mistakes. I mean, you generally don't become the most trusted defenseman in your age group, garnering the most ice time from multiple coaches while vying for NCAA titles and world junior championships if you keep making the same mistakes over and over again.
    11 points
  30. Hopefully Sturm is the floor. As a 1st round pick, I would hope for another JEEK or Anton Lundell as a ceiling.
    11 points
  31. I can report some quotes from Marco Rossi he gave in an interview to the biggest Austrian newspaper 1 week ago. After holiday he resumed conditioning training with his personal coach at his home in Austria. "It's really challenging, exactly what I need. I can see the progress. The goal is to train even harder then before. I want to score at least 60 points again and prove myself. I don't even want to know too much about the talks my agent has. I just focus on strengthening".
    11 points
  32. So, what top 6 center, or real scoring winger was available? No legitimate top 6 centers were available, Boeser was offered his contract before free agency opened, and Ehlers wants to play in a warmer climate. Also, even if Rossi were to sign a one-year deal, he would still be a RFA next year with us still controlling his rights.
    11 points
  33. The longer this Rossi thing continues, the increased likelihood of BG fubar-ing this thing up.
    11 points
  34. -2 on the whole year isn't horrible, especially if there was a run of injuries that affected things. When Faber was merely eating minutes, to get us through games, that was useful too. Personally, I felt that the 4 nations tournament was too much for Faber with his responsibilities on the team. I thought he came back looking drained, more so than Boldy did. I do think Buium will help, but I still see a logjam at the position. I'd really like to see a Jiricek-Brodin pairing, and a Buium-Spurgeon pairing. That leaves Middleton-Faber as a pairing that has been successful in the past. I think with those pairings, you could probably just role the pairings and give them pretty much equal time. This will help Faber with his minutes and probably give him more in the tank as the season goes on. There is also the possibility Faber simply went through a sophomore slump and will be better next season. Remember, in '24, Midsy had a pretty bad +/-, but he rebounded this season.
    11 points
  35. The way I see it is that a lot of these moves can be attributed to the cap penalties, a mostly empty prospect pool, and slow development since then. Hell, the slow development might even be partially due to the empty prospect pool if progression of one's peers helps foster better development in a player by challenging them to be better too. The article says we've only brought in older players, preventing the ascension of younger players while also citing a number of other younger players that didn't work out. Younger players have gotten chances. It's not just Addison and Khusnutdinov that received playing time. Players like Hunt, Walker, Beckman, Raska, and others were given chances and never showed that they belonged up in the NHL. It's not like prospects aren't getting chances. Even Rossi was given multiple chances before he got to the point where he showed he could be a successful everyday NHLer. As far as signing older, veteran players. It's typically cheaper to sign an aging vet in the latter part of his hockey career than it is to get one in his prime. We didn't have the cap space or the depth to go after those players. It's also harder to get those players still in their primed when they know that your team has huge cap penalties against it. The odds are stacked against you and they know it. What will be really telling is if this trend changes now that the cap penalties are mostly gone. With several prospects poised to make the team next year, there will already be a shift towards youth. With the cap penalties gone and showing that we can be a dangerous team, maybe there will be interest from more than just aging players who generally have some ties to Minnesota will be more interested in joining the team as a result. If this off-season Guerin gives a 6yr deal to Nelson and trades Rossi for some player in their lower 30s who is already at their ceiling, then maybe this article is on to something. Until then, I think there are enough other factors that it's premature to come to that judgment.
    11 points
  36. No, if the Wild trade Rossi, it will be a for an established goal scoring forward, not a minor league defenseman.
    11 points
  37. Foli-Rossi-Boldy might be a good #2 line for the playoffs.
    11 points
  38. I think Nyquist has been a plus. His scoresheet might not say but he has improved the PK and is still a good NHLer.
    11 points
  39. Oldest, most beat up topic. Guerin-haters keep whining and crying cause he's not going anywhere and just GM'd for USA tacking on more resume-boosting credentials. The Wild were total shit at the end of Parise/Suter. They were whining too in the press and the team had zero prospects or useful 1st round picks. You complainers are a joke, giving F-grades while full-rebuilders aren't any closer to a Cup and big-swingers are striking out with newly-signed Stamkos, Big-Apple Blunders, or Vancouver's vanquished playoff chances. We'll see, but I remember people crying Staal shouldn't have been traded, Suter should have, and Fiala wasn't given a fair shake. Suter had to be bought out AGAIN, Staal retired, and Fiala isn't putting LA into the contender conversation so I don't really give a crud if rando rag'n-rippers wanna armchair GM from their office chair or smartphone. It's not even debatable, MN has good youth, solid defense and goaltending. Injuries always hurt, but MN's penalties will end and they'll be handicapped beyond all other NHL teams no more. The Wild have been better ever since Guerin got hired and not alone getting knocked out of the playoffs. Doomers everywhere nowadays.
    11 points
  40. What Happened To the Wild's Offense? It has a lower body injury...
    11 points
  41. Don't look now but Charlie may be finding his groove. Wouldn't that be nice... The Wild prospect pool is looking pretty good again to go along with a team that's outperforming expectations yet again despite a myriad of injuries yet again. Go Wild!! Stramel is finding the net and his teammates, may just be the big man's skates and IQ are catching up with his body. Buium is making a historic run for Consecutive 50 point seasons for a college Dman which has not been done for 2 1/2 decades. Yurov (who likely has been getting his minutes cut to develop youngsters who will replace him) should be a top 6 forward sooner rather than later. Ang Ogzie has looked good in his recent stint at IA and with the Wild. The future looks bright, don't blow it up BG. And for those saying the Wild need to get bigger well thats in the pipeline and looking like it could happen soon with the Oger and Charlie...
    11 points
  42. I don’t get this either. I’m in the camp that we let bygones be bygones. Giving up assets to get him back after losing him once already (with no compensation) feels like we’re paying for Tuch twice.
    11 points
  43. To be fair, most teams are not well prepared for the loss of their top d man and their top center at the same time.
    11 points
  44. Johansson got Boldy crushed along the boards with a poor passing decision in game 2 last year(a game Boldy scored his 1st goal of the season), prompting Boldy to leave the game and miss a few weeks. He almost certainly came back before he was fully healed from his upper body injury. Boldy did pick up 6 assists in the 10 games after he came back from injury, but he didn't score his 2nd goal of the season until November 28th. At that point, he started scoring at roughly a point per game pace, accumulating 28 goals in his final 63 games--a 35+ goal pace per 80 games. If Boldy can stay healthy this season, he has a shot at surpassing 80 points.
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  45. I wouldn’t say MN refused to make a place for Jack McBain. College guys can do that. I really can’t blame a guy for taking an offer in ARI and getting straight into the NHL. Kinda screwed the Wild but if I were in his shoes, would it be a smart career move to join a better club with a GM who wants young guys to really earn it? The Wild are in a good position. Here’s why. This season will give the players and organization fair time to succeed on the ice and in assessing the situation. By Christmas and especially the deadline, MN will know what they’ve got at the NHL level. Rossi, Ogie, and Knudi will all have had the opportunity to show up. Lauko, Clarke, Walker, Fred, NoJo, Gus, Wallstedt will get a chance to prove what’s up. At that point in the big picture, Guerin will be in a nice position. There’s assets and value to work with in a playoff/non-playoff scenario. I believe MN will at that point see the future clearer with Yurov or Wallstedt sending a strong message. Guerin can at that point make a decision about where to allocate AAV and what the team needs most. At that point a salary dump sending a veteran before playoffs or a prospect and pick going to add a complimentary player won’t be difficult. Maybe even a big-splasher if MN moved Spurge or Knudi/Rossi to get bigger/heavier? I think that’s what’s gonna happen around the times we see Buium, Heidt, Lorenz, Stramel, etc. and where they’d fit long-term. Other questions about Boeser staying in Vancouver or not and is Trent Frederic staying in Boston? Pius Suter will be a free agent again. Verhaeghe, Jeannot, Kolesar, Raddysh, Vatrano, there’s gonna be more UFA options if MN holds onto prospects and picks. Of course Raantennen, Draisaitl, Crosby will be UFAs too but not likely for MN. Not too shabby IMO. Lot of doom’n is just unnecessary.
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  46. Great article and I'm in the keep Rossi camp. I assume Guerin's logic in moving Rossi+ is to acquire a linemate for #97, to incent 97 to stay with the Wild. This is the only logic i can think of that makes sense to me. If the return for a package including Rossi is to get a 26 year old studly linemate to keep 97 around I'm on board. If the return is multiple prospects, FAIL If the return is a 30 something formerly studly fwd + some spare parts, FAIL If the return is a 1 for 1 trade, FAIL (because what we'd get back is a young player with hockey upside, but attitude downside) #don'tbedumbbill
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  47. So the premise is, Bogosian is having his best season ever here in MN and it's foolish that Guerin signed him to an inexpensive 2-year deal. He's actually junk and the long time spent with teams that sucked before SPAR was invented isn't part of the equation. He was -3 with 30pts in 2011-12 when Winnipeg's top scorer was Wheeler with 64pts. Not exactly an offensive powerhouse team. In 2013-14 during a season with a coaching change, Bogosian was a +3 while Big Buff was a -20 and WPG was 7th in the Central. The SPAR might look like shit, but it sure seems to me like Bogosian has played on brutal teams until TB. In Tampa Bogo played nearly 50 games. He scored 8pts and was a +2. Huh, weird. The following season he again played nearly 50 games and had just 5pts and was -4. Not exactly amazing stats, but not terrible numbers to proving he's a waste of money at 1.25M. With everything he brings, including size, experience, and beard, there's no way we can use just one metric and a career of playing on bad teams less one, to conclude he's a bum who has been lucky this year. That's not to say he hasn't had a better year in MN that previous seasons. In approx. 40 games Bogo is a plus player and has nine points with top beard in the entire organization. The funny thing is that while MN is having a sucky season, Bogo is not. So when Bogo played with Buffalo, or Atlanta he was a minus player. When he has been with decent teams, he's very close to even or being a plus guy on defense. Calling him a bouncing dead cat is a hot-take period. Insinuating he'll be a bum by next year or the year after ain't right. Using SPAR alone to paint a negative picture making an argument Guerin has somehow further screwed up the Wild by signing him is without context equal to an "evolving metric" made up less than a decade ago by a guy who never played hockey at a high enough level to have ever been heard of is worse yet. I'll go with the eyeball-test, overall career context, and bottom line specifics of the new contract. MN upgraded and SPAR uses replacement players at league minimum salary which is barely below Bogo's AAV on the new deal. Therefore, good article for debate because there's a lot of old school hockey players who don't give a shit what some analyst says about who's the best hockey players or how they can help a team or not. https://corsica.hockey/misc/war_notebook.html
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  48. I simply disagree with Tom's take here. Pretty much, the whole thing. It is very important for owner Leipold to make the playoffs. That is a starting point for anyone he hired as a GM. Guerin promised us from the start that his team would be competitive. There is quite a difference between being competitive and being a contender. Competitive play is something I have defined as having meaningful games with a chance at playoffs with 10 games to go. Not a mathematical chance, a real bonafide chance. This box has been checked every year he's been GM except for this year. The word "rebuild" was not to be uttered. Retool, fine. It is possible to do this and build a contender, however, to do this and be competitive, it would require not missing on 1sts (in the late teens/early 20s) and getting some luck in later picks. It is understood that these players would take the full 5 years to develop. Guerin has bought time by having a competitive roster while at the same time rebuilding a cupboard of prospects that is the envy of most teams. A competitive team is one who makes the playoffs. This team has overperformed and even achieved home ice advantage once. However, being competitive likely means you are 1/8 teams to exit the playoffs after the 1st round. Essentially, luck would be needed to advance, and some teams get that, we didn't. Selling off all of our parts on the firebird that weren't glued down is not the direction to go. Selling off the parts that are not part of the future (not the future core) is the way to go. Specifically, this targets a guy like Middleton who is useful for the future but probably not the core. I've come to grips with probably selling off Duhaime and Dewar, even though they are good, cheap pieces, but they can be backfilled. What makes anyone think that Guerin/Brackett haven't reloaded? The main issue here is that we haven't been back in the garage to see what is soon to be placed under the hood, a completely rebuilt 420 hp v-8 along with new nimble handling. Unfortunately, it is still under construction as those custom parts take awhile to be manufactured. Will they be ready next season? Probably not all of them, and the setup will need some tweaking. I don't know why we have to keep rehashing this. Nobody "botched" Rossi's development. It was obvious that myocarditis did far more developmental damage to this player than anyone realized. Prospects are supposed to gain strength in the A, Rossi lost weight compared to jrs. If he doesn't add 15 lbs. this offseason, he likely is still playing in the A, and dropping as a prospect. This wasn't a team issue, this was a Rossi issue, as it was his health that created the problem. (though I do think with the track record of our strength and conditioning coaches on other players, not putting an emphasis on strength/weight gain probably also contributed) And, the injuries. For the last 3 seasons, we have been pretty fortunate when it came to injuries. This season, we were not. It's not just man hours down, it's the who the man hours were, and when they happened. You can make the case that it is in aging roster, but young players got hit too. This was simply an unlucky year in this regard. When you couple $15m in lost cap space + injuries to your most important players mainly at once, you're going to get a lot of losses. Now, that said, I still maintain that this rebuild/retool/reload is about over as far as obtaining players. We will likely get a really good piece, maybe 2 this draft, but it's more or less gravy. This was signaled by Guerin/Brackett this past draft when they went for sizeable centers with the 1st 2 picks they had. This was what was missing from the prospect pool. If we stay in the position we're in now, we likely pick up a large bodied, skilled defender, or a meaningful piece at forward to add to our arsenal. Now it's about developing them and it takes pretty much the full 5 years to do this. Yurov and The Wall may take less time. Our highly touted defenders from jrs. look like they need another year, but they're on schedule. It appears that what Guerin resigned is what he wants around in veteran leadership roles. Think about this, if Dino comes over in March, and plays like we think he will, we have Zuccarello's replacement on and ELC until Zuccarello's contract is over. We have Yurov's contract on an ELC until Hartman's is over. We likely don't sign Stramel until next season when his ELC coincides with Foligno's being over. Kumpulainen is the same way. And Freddy will be taking shootout position 3 chances well into his contract where his turn is 30 seconds long. When does Johansson's contract expire? When Rossi needs his extension. Faber is the Wild Card here, as his deal will eat up half of the $15m we get back from the cap penalties. Kaprizov probably eats up another $3m. There is a method here. There is timing. It's not gloom and doom for the future.
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  49. Hey Tony, just want to say well done on the draft coverage by all of you at HW. Speaking for myself, I really appreciate all the coverage. Thank you.
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