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  • What Are the Wild’s Ideal Defensive Pairings When Brodin Returns?


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    Neil Urbanski

    For the first time since Zachary L'Heureux slew-footed Jared Spurgeon on January 2, the Minnesota Wild had a fully healthy defensive corps for their showdown against the Boston Bruins on Tuesday night.

    But with Brodin’s return, the Wild finally have the luxury of deploying their defensemen however they’d like. They have eight to choose from, but Travis Dermott seems destined for the waiver wire. That would leave the Wild with the seven defensemen who made the team out of training camp: Spurgeon, Brodin, Brock Faber, Jacob Middleton, Declan Chisholm, Jon Merrill, and Zach Bogosian.

    As the season heads into the backstretch and teams begin ramping up for the playoffs, the Wild must effectively structure their defensive corps to compete with the top teams in the Western Conference. While Wild fans are drooling over the possibility of prized prospect Zeev Buium joining the team for a playoff run, any talk of that happening is merely conjecture. 

    The Wild have used 14 different defensive pairs for at least 30 minutes of five-on-five gameplay this season, shown below from most to least used:

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     *Data from Natural Stat Trick

    While the three most frequently-used pairings (Middleton-Faber, Spurgeon-Chisholm, and Bogosian-Merrill) feature one right and one left-handed player, none feature Brodin. The smooth-skating Swede has missed 22 of Minnesota’s 53 games due to injury. That said, the Wild have most frequently deployed Brodin as part of a right-left duo.

    The Wild have a diverse mix of attributes among their seven chosen defensemen, allowing them to mix and match depending on matchups or roster availability. Still, finding three steady pairings that John Hynes can write into the lineup card every night would provide significant stability for the team. It would also afford goaltenders Filip Gustavsson and Marc-André Fleury some predictability as they anticipate shots and read plays behind the same lineup nightly. 

    Ideally, a contending team can ice a mobile, reliable shutdown pairing that can be deployed against the opposing team’s top line each night. It’s also essential for this pairing to have enough puck-moving ability to consistently turn loose pucks and turnovers into changes of possession that force those top lines to retreat and defend. 

    The Wild seem to have already settled on Brodin and Spurgeon, a duo that fits the bill perfectly. In the 161 minutes of hockey the two have played together this season, they’ve been primarily matched against each team’s best players. Despite that, they’ve produced a 67.95% expected goals percentage (and an actual goals percentage of 66.67%), which is the best mark in the NHL for pairs that have played at least 100 minutes. The league average for such pairings is 49.13%. Combined with elite two-way center Joel Eriksson Ek, Brodin, and Spurgeon can control play against anyone in the NHL.

    Brodin is the ideal shutdown defenseman and has proved it by dominating against the league’s top player, Connor McDavid. According to Natural Stat Trick, when Brodin is on the ice with McDavid over the past three seasons, Minnesota has outshot the Edmonton Oilers 39 to 23. Meanwhile, Edmonton has outscored the Wild 4-3. 

    Against Nathan MacKinnon, who many consider the second-best player in the NHL, Brodin and the Wild have been even in shots with 44 apiece. In that time, the Wild have outscored their division rival 6-2. 

    That is not a typo. 

    Brodin uses his superb skating, edgework, and anticipation to control the flow of play and frustrate the league’s top players. It’s tantalizing to think how that might unfold over a seven-game series. 

    The 5-foot-9, 166 lbs. Spurgeon is a master of body positioning and anticipation, and these tools make him the perfect player to read off of Brodin to further suffocate the opposition. The stats from the past three seasons also suggest this. Minnesota has outshot and outscored McDavid (33-22 and 3-2) and MacKinnon (19-18 and 1-0) with Spurgeon on the ice.

    With the first pair settled, the Wild can deploy complementary second and third pairs that can play different styles. They should pair Faber and Chisholm on the second pair and use Middleton with Merrill or Bogosian on the third. 

    Middleton has enjoyed a strong season thus far, but his play has slipped lately. It’s probably a sign of regression after a run of sustained good fortune. Per MoneyPuck, Middleton’s expected goals percentage thus far is -0.5%, while his actual goal differential is +10. 

    When a player outperforms their expected metrics by that much, some regression is expected, and that’s been visible over the past month. Middleton’s isolated performance has slowly dipped after a strong run of play to start the season.

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    Still, Middleton is a solid player and would slot in nicely as a featured piece of an elite third pair. Merrill or Bogosian would complement his decent mobility and ability to make timely attacks when joining the rush in transition. 

    Merrill has quietly had a strong season thus far. He plays a conservative, heady style, producing strong underlying results for the depth defenseman. The duo has been solid when he’s been deployed with Middleton. The Wild have outscored opponents 5-3 with them on the ice and had an expected goals percentage of 60.3%. Furthermore, both are 6-foot-3 and capable of withstanding heavy forechecking and winning puck battles in the corners. 

    Bogosian and Middleton have not been as effective. They’ve outscored opponents 5-4 but had only 47.33% expected goals. Still, Bogosian brings some versatility as a righty. He also possesses a heavy shot that can strike fear into opponents and buy some space high in the offensive zone. 

    Putting Faber and Chisholm together would be an ideal second pairing with enough versatility to defend and attack against various play styles. Ideally deployed against the opposition’s second and third lines, they can use their elite skating to move themselves out of trouble and control possession. They can keep forecheckers on their heels because of their ability to skate pucks out of the zone and counter quickly after corralling loose pucks or turnovers. 

    In the 43 minutes Faber and Chisholm have played together, the Wild have had a 52.63% expected goals percentage and outshot opponents 25-24. Opponents have outscored them 3-0, but the stats suggest that might turn around with time. Furthermore, neither player has had the strongest output lately when the Wild have deployed them with different partners. Solidifying them as a pair would allow them time to discover how to capitalize on their complementary skills. 

    Faber and Chisholm are strong skaters and puck movers. Chisholm has more natural offensive instincts and has been increasingly improving as a defender, even if he leaves something to be desired in this area. Faber is an intelligent player who excels at everything. His size and ability to play a variety of styles mean he can provide a steadying presence defensively and combine with Chisholm in the offensive zone to interchange up high to create shooting lanes, move pucks high-to-low and laterally, and give opposing wingers nightmares. 

    Brodin is back, and the Wild’s defense is finally whole. With the pieces in the right place, it can be versatile enough to match up well against anyone. A regular lineup with pairings of Spurgeon-Brodin, Faber-Chisholm, and Middleton-Merrill/Bogosian gives the team its best chance at playoff success.

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    9 minutes ago, Burnt Toast said:

    100% agree that this is an important step in a SC push. Vegas & Florida are recent examples. JE & MT were great additions at just the right moment. My opinion is that we’re a couple of seasons away. The Wild chose to rebuild through the draft. Until we see how those top picks fit in we don’t have the depth to be a top contender. I hate waiting. I waited 5 years for KK, it’s almost 5 years to see some long lasting results from the Granlund trade. But the team has been slowly getting better. I’m confident that when the Wild are one big trade away from truly contending they’ll pull the trigger. 

    we are almost there.....we've heard this before as Wild fans. 

    i get that to a lot of fans  - to trade a MN son is unconceivable! 

    but it may be a smart thing to do and may bring results

    yes - Vegas knew what it wanted and got it. do we want the same or do we want to field a team with Minnesota ties? then bring on the Brocks. 😞

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    9 minutes ago, M_Nels said:

    Zeev is left-handed first of all. I love me some Brods and think he's one of the most underrated d-men in the league but he's getting older and injuries are starting to catch up with him, he's missed 20 games each of the last 2 seasons.

    We've got nobody in Iowa that fits the bill of a tall, heavy, good skating RHD and those guys don't just spring up on the market especially for 8.5m. Faber is a franchise guy and is only 22.

    so you going to play Faber and Zeev together ....what will instill fear in every opponent! 

    brodin is 31 and still skates better than EVERY one on the team. he is your best D and if he needs more load management in the future - bump him down and play zeev with jiricek. 

    in all this - faber is the guy that is replaceable. i suppose midds and spurge can be added but you will not get the same haul as you would for faber. 

    question for you too - Faber for Elias. No or Yes?

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    14 hours ago, Sam said:

    It sounds like you have pretty high expectations for Buium if you have him at the first pairing. But it sounds like this Wheeler guy does too. I hope he turns out and his skill translates to the NHL.

    It was just trying to find the best pairings. Brodin and Jiricek seemed like a really strong pairing that would allow Jiricek to use his offense while Brodin focuses more on defense to balance them out. Brodin is clearly a superior skater while that's Jiricek's main deficiency. Spurgeon and Middleton have done well in the past and I'm not sure we want to count on top pairing minutes for either.

    Faber and Buium should be a huge part of the future Wild defense, and Buium has been getting the most ice time, by far, in NCAA tourney and world championships because of his strong 2-way game. Might as well get them building that top line connection early on.

    Found out a little earlier that the Wild are rated top 2 ahead of Montreal, which really surprised me given that they have several good prospects and their top player, Demidov, is expected to be a superstar. He has Michael Hage listed 4th for them and he's a freshman C for Michigan that's top 2 in points for them. He's the guy I hoped the Wild would draft if Buium wasn't there.

    Here's one snippet of his praise for Demidov:

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    After returning[from injury late last year], he tore up the MHL with one multi-point game after another and five to 10 shots per game, putting together one of the most productive extended stretches of play ever at Russia’s top junior level and making pretty goals look casual. This season, despite averaging under 13 minutes per game on the year (though he has played 18-to-20-plus of late), he’s still SKA’s second-leading scorer.

    Demidov’s one of the most dynamic and skilled prospects to come out of Russia in recent memory (his game also has more of a pro style, competitiveness and roundedness to it than Michkov’s had at the same age).

    Been anxious to read what he has to say about Wild prospects, particularly Yurov. Just Sharks and Wild remaining, so won't be long.

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    10 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    Faber has what like 20 pts this year? I mean seems like 40 pt max.....then next year - he will be off PP1 so that cuts the points total too (or at least makes it more difficult to get them) and i do realize it's more than just points, but i just don't see him being a number 1 D on our team. would you not pull the trigger in the offseason if he lands you elias?

    As much as I would love to have Elias on our team, I do not think that I would.  I get that he is a ppg player, (except for this year for whatever reason), but I am also looking to the future of the team.  Spurgeon only has two years left after this year and Brodin 3.  Brodin will probably get resigned if he isn't showing signs of regression and I feel he is the type of player that can play until he is 37.  But after Spurgeon is gone our Top 4 D will be Faber, Zeev, Brodin and Midds.  I believe that Juricek has a chance to fit into that top 4 spot at that time also, but I would love some insurance in case Brodin does regress or injuries continue, and Juricek does not develop as fast as we hope.

    Also, you are assuming Vancouver would make that trade also.

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    14 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    so you going to play Faber and Zeev together ....what will instill fear in every opponent! 

    brodin is 31 and still skates better than EVERY one on the team. he is your best D and if he needs more load management in the future - bump him down and play zeev with jiricek. 

    in all this - faber is the guy that is replaceable. i suppose midds and spurge can be added but you will not get the same haul as you would for faber. 

    question for you too - Faber for Elias. No or Yes?

    I didn't say anything about Zeev and Faber having to pair together. You said Zeev arriving essentially makes Faber expendable but they aren't the same hand so he's not going to take over Faber's spot as a RHD. 

    I'm not disputing anything you're saying about Brodin, his age and injury history are the concerns with him.

    If any of our d are expendable it's Chisholm.

    No, I would not trade Faber for Elias.

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    6 minutes ago, SkolWild73 said:

    As much as I would love to have Elias on our team, I do not think that I would.  I get that he is a ppg player, (except for this year for whatever reason), but I am also looking to the future of the team.  Spurgeon only has two years left after this year and Brodin 3.  Brodin will probably get resigned if he isn't showing signs of regression and I feel he is the type of player that can play until he is 37.  But after Spurgeon is gone our Top 4 D will be Faber, Zeev, Brodin and Midds.  I believe that Juricek has a chance to fit into that top 4 spot at that time also, but I would love some insurance in case Brodin does regress or injuries continue, and Juricek does not develop as fast as we hope.

    Also, you are assuming Vancouver would make that trade also.

    take out all the variables. if Van is willing....are you willing? i personally jump on this.

    Jiricek Brodin Zeev Middleton Spurge Bogo and you can find a 2/3rd D if Jiri is not ready. 

    you just don't find Elias type players out there. 

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    12 minutes ago, M_Nels said:

    I didn't say anything about Zeev and Faber having to pair together. You said Zeev arriving essentially makes Faber expendable but they aren't the same hand so he's not going to take over Faber's spot as a RHD. 

    I'm not disputing anything you're saying about Brodin, his age and injury history are the concerns with him.

    If any of our d are expendable it's Chisholm.

    No, I would not trade Faber for Elias.

    Yeap, i am saying that Faber is expandable with Zeev and Jiri coming in and is the one i would pick to move.

    He has the most value / hype right now and can bring us what we need most - an offensive threat. Elias can solidify a monstrous line with Kap and Yurov. 

     

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    19 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    Jiricek Brodin Zeev Middleton Spurge Bogo and you can find a 2/3rd D if Jiri is not ready. 

    you just don't find Elias type players out there. 

    Then what are your plans for next year and beyond for RHD? BOGO is old and a serviceable 7th D at best after this season.  You want to get rid if Spurge for peanuts so what is it? 

    You don't find franchise RHD out there either.

    11 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    He has the most value / hype right now and can bring us what we need most - an offensive threat. Elias can solidify a monstrous line with Kap and Yurov.

    He's a Euro that doesn't play the heavy/mean game like you want. He's skilled but I thought we needed B. Tkachuk types to make this team a contender and to protect Kap?

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    1 hour ago, OldDutchChip said:

    the rest of the list is unquestionably THE top defenders on their team. faber isn't and won't be next year or any other time if all the whispers about zeev is true and jiricek comes into his own. 

    the point i am making is it's smart to figure out if you want to capitalize on Faber's peak value or not. if not - then you will be fine - he will be your 2nd/3rd D with 40 pts ceiling. 

    or you want to see if you can get an offensive dynamo to pair with Kaprizov? i'd wager that's the way to go. 

    again you have Zeev, Brodin, Midds and Jiricek as that core. You also likely to have at least ONE D from AHL finally develop into something. Now is the time to parlay some of that depth into what is missing. and we know what's missing. we have seen it play out on the ice with Kaprizov. You need offense. And Faber can get you that so i'd ship him out in the off season.

    If!

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    2 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    take out all the variables. if Van is willing....are you willing? i personally jump on this.

    Jiricek Brodin Zeev Middleton Spurge Bogo and you can find a 2/3rd D if Jiri is not ready. 

    you just don't find Elias type players out there. 

    Elias makes 11.6 mill a year.  For whatever reason, he is having a down year by his standards, 11g and 22a in 47 games, and only 6g and 15a in 5 on 5.  Maybe it is just a bad year, but same can be said for Faber's stats this year also.

    I believe, as well as most hockey analysts, that Faber will be a top guy in the league.  Like I said before, if Faber was a few years older and had peeked in his rookie year I would be for it.  I just do not see that happening.  And it has nothing to do with him being a Minnesota boy.

    As far as taking out all the variables, I suppose a trade for Elias would make sense on paper.  But you have to look at variables when you are looking at building a team and making trades.  You need to look at future contracts, potential and age of a player, where your salary cap will be and other factors.  For me, the potential of having two young studs as a defensive core for years to come outweighs going after Elias.

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    Just now, M_Nels said:

    Then what are your plans for next year and beyond for RHD? BOGO is old and a serviceable 7th D at best after this season.  You want to get rid if Spurge for peanuts so what is it? 

    You don't find franchise RHD out there either.

    He's a Euro that doesn't play the heavy/mean game like you want. He's skilled but I thought we needed B. Tkachuk types to make this team a contender?

    we have spurge still here for two years. he does not have the same appeal as faber, but is a right handed shot and can handle 2nd pair just fine. 

    jiricek is a right hand shot and could be a great compliment to zeev or you ease them both in - Brodin/Jiri and Zeev / Spurge

    it's much easier to find a 2nd / 3rd pair D who is a right hand shot than a world class offensive player - and that is who Elias is. 

    Who cares if he is a Euro? Kaprizov is a Euro! Because he is not a Minnesotan you ding him? Not cool. 

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    Just now, OldDutchChip said:

    Who cares if he is a Euro? Kaprizov is a Euro! Because he is not a Minnesotan you ding him? Not cool. 

    I couldn't care less if he was from Europe, Russia, New Mexico, Minnesota or Timbuktu.

    Fact is he doesn't play a heavy/mean game like you've said ad nauseam on this forum that this team needs to protect Kap and other star players.

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    4 minutes ago, SkolWild73 said:

    Elias makes 11.6 mill a year.  For whatever reason, he is having a down year by his standards, 11g and 22a in 47 games, and only 6g and 15a in 5 on 5.  Maybe it is just a bad year, but same can be said for Faber's stats this year also.

    I believe, as well as most hockey analysts, that Faber will be a top guy in the league.  Like I said before, if Faber was a few years older and had peeked in his rookie year I would be for it.  I just do not see that happening.  And it has nothing to do with him being a Minnesota boy.

    As far as taking out all the variables, I suppose a trade for Elias would make sense on paper.  But you have to look at variables when you are looking at building a team and making trades.  You need to look at future contracts, potential and age of a player, where your salary cap will be and other factors.  For me, the potential of having two young studs as a defensive core for years to come outweighs going after Elias.

    right so now ask yourself - would an addition of Elias be more valuable to the team than retention of Faber? (11.6 vs 8.5 is no biggie once MJ is gone and we have an increasing cap so that should not matter; more importantly it helps us sell a vision to Kap and we can say - here play with Elias - have fun.....that's something!)....too bad we won't find out. but i think you pull a trigger on that.  

     

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    1 hour ago, OldDutchChip said:

    brodin and buium. you use suter 2.0

    We need depth on defense too. Brods needs someone to fill in whenever necessary. I think Faber brings a vibe to the Wild that sets him apart from Suter. He is going to have his own unique legacy. Ask yourself this question. If you absolutely had to trade either Boldy, Rossi or Faber, assuming the return was the same, who would it be? For me it’s not an easy decision.

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    3 minutes ago, M_Nels said:

    I couldn't care less if he was from Europe, Russia, New Mexico, Minnesota or Timbuktu.

    Fact is he doesn't play a heavy/mean game like you've said ad nauseam on this forum that this team needs to protect Kap and other star players.

    Did you not say this? He's a Euro that doesn't play the heavy/mean game like you want...

    why an emphasis on Euro then? Obviously that matters to you to point out. 

    and i did say before about heavy/mean game. i actually think having a guy who is 6'2 may help in that. and maybe he won't be the last of the puzzle to fit and you can still get that physicality added in FA. 

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    1 minute ago, Burnt Toast said:

    We need depth on defense too. Brods needs someone to fill in whenever necessary. I think Faber brings a vibe to the Wild that sets him apart from Suter. He is going to have his own unique legacy. Ask yourself this question. If you absolutely had to trade either Boldy, Rossi or Faber, assuming the return was the same, who would it be? For me it’s not an easy decision.

    i'd trade 2 out of 3. i can't believe i'm going to say this - but i'd keep Rossi. 

    • Boldy for Svech
    • Faber for Elias 

    and then we really don't need to play D!

    Elias Yurov Kap Svech Ek Rossi (Zuccy) as your top 6 is something

     

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    6 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    Did you not say this? He's a Euro that doesn't play the heavy/mean game like you want...

    why an emphasis on Euro then? Obviously that matters to you to point out. 

    and i did say before about heavy/mean game. i actually think having a guy who is 6'2 may help in that. and maybe he won't be the last of the puzzle to fit and you can still get that physicality added in FA. 

    Because skilled Euro guys have a reputation for playing finesse games and not heavy and mean. If it offended you or anyone else on here I apologize, I very easily could've left that off.

    Boldy is 6'2 and has 15lbs on Elias and he's not a bruiser either. 

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    1 minute ago, M_Nels said:

    Because skilled Euro guys have a reputation for playing finesse games and not heavy and mean. If it offended you or anyone else on here I apologize, I very easily could've left that off.

    Boldy is 6'2 and has 15lbs on Elias and he's not a bruiser either. 

    🍺

    Boldy....what to do with him? haha

    has he scored 50 yet?

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    2 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    right so now ask yourself - would an addition of Elias be more valuable to the team than retention of Faber? (11.6 vs 8.5 is no biggie once MJ is gone and we have an increasing cap so that should not matter; more importantly it helps us sell a vision to Kap and we can say - here play with Elias - have fun.....that's something!)....too bad we won't find out. but i think you pull a trigger on that.  

     

    I do not think getting Elias is more valuable than retaining Faber for the future of the team, but it is close.  Trading away a 22-year-old defenseman who played the 6th most minutes for a Dman in the NHL last year as a rookie and had the second best 5 on 5 plus minus out of those players behind only Drew Doughty does not make sense to me.  I know you do not think he is a top Dman, but obviously our coaches do, or he would not be getting all the minutes that he does.  If we were to trade Faber, it would have to be for someone better than Elias in my opinion.

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    9 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    Did you not say this? He's a Euro that doesn't play the heavy/mean game like you want...

    why an emphasis on Euro then? Obviously that matters to you to point out. 

    and i did say before about heavy/mean game. i actually think having a guy who is 6'2 may help in that. and maybe he won't be the last of the puzzle to fit and you can still get that physicality added in FA. 

    He is 6'2", but only 176 pounds and wins 45% of his faceoffs this year. I do not watch enough of the Canucks games to know if he plays a heavy game or not.

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