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  • The Wild Set A First-Round Standard A Year Ago


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    Tom Schreier

     

    Bill Guerin had his infamous spat with Minnesota Wild reporter Michael Russo nearly a year ago. On May 2, 2023, Guerin unsolicitedly offered Minnesota’s cap restraints as an excuse for losing. He also took exception to Russo asking what the Wild had to do to get over their first-round “hump.”

    “I'm not trying to be a smart ass, Mike,” Guerin responded. “They're not going to put our name on the Stanley Cup to get to the second round. They're not going to give us a ring. But you know what? That's not our goal. Our goal is not to make it to the second round. Is it going to feel any better? It's not.”

    The Wild won’t get to the second round this year because they missed the playoffs for the first time since the 2018-19 season. They also can’t win a championship if they don’t make it to the second round. Minnesota hasn’t won a playoff series since the 2014-15 season, and they haven’t reached the Western Conference Finals since 2002-03. But playoff hockey felt like a given in St. Paul, even if the Wild have routinely had brief appearances.

    A year ago, Guerin didn’t feel that his team should carry the narrative of losing in the first round. Until this season, the Wild had lost in the first round seven of the past eight seasons. However, many current players weren’t around for the early part of the streak. 

    "I refuse to hold our new players responsible for what's happened in the past,” Guerin said. 

    Still, Peter DeBoer had outcoached Dean Evason with the Vegas Golden Knights and Dallas Stars in 2020-21 and 2022-23. In between, St. Louis Blues coach Craig Berube beat him with the clipboard in 2021-22. It’s difficult to fire a coach after two 100-plus seasons. But a year ago, Guerin insinuated that the Stanley Cup was his goal, not regular-season success.

    Evason knew why Guerin called a meeting with him after the team started 5-10-4 in late November. “Evason walked into Guerin’s office, looked at his face as he sat behind his desk, and knew right away: ‘Are you firing me, bud?’” Russo reported on November 29. “‘He said, ‘Yeah,’ and he stood up, came around the desk, and we hugged and he just started crying,’ Evason said. ‘And so did I.’”

    Anyone can understand why that’s a challenging conversation. Paul Fenton had hired Evason, who had worked with him in the Nashville Predators organization. But Guerin retained Evason and removed his interim tag. Evason likely would succeed in coaching veteran players with championship expectations. However, Minnesota’s only chance at contending and retaining Kirill Kaprizov will be by maximizing their farm system, and Evason didn’t seem to trust young players.

    It would always be difficult for Guerin to fire Evason. However, the conversation would be more straightforward if Guerin had set a championship standard. Championship teams don’t count the number of 100-point seasons they have, and they expect to get out of the first round. Championship coaches don’t get out-coached three years in a row. 

    Evason knew what Guerin was doing when he walked into his office after a 5-10-4 start. Had the Wild set a championship standard, Evason would have known what the conversation would be when Guerin walked into his office after another first-round exit. It’s one thing to verbalize a desire to win a Stanley Cup; it’s another thing to act on it. By retaining Evason and a similar roster this year, Minnesota permitted losing in the first round as an acceptable result. Then, the Wild immediately fell too far behind in the standings to recover. 

    “It had just gotten to that point where almost no matter what they did, the guys were having a hard time executing and generating and generating offense,” Guerin said. “Something had to change. 'We can't trade 23 players,' is the old saying.”

    It’s difficult for Guerin to trade players because he signed many of them, including myriad declining veterans, to contracts with no-trade clauses. The Wild are not generating offense because they don’t have enough skill on the roster, mainly because Guerin prioritizes size and veteran experience over raw talent. 

    The Wild also couldn’t recover because they lost nearly every time they crept back into the playoff picture. They also weren’t going to win a playoff series this year. Minnesota was 0-9-1 against the Dallas Stars, Winnipeg Jets, and Colorado Avalanche – the three best teams in the Central. Guerin has locked most of that core into binding deals, tacitly indicating that he believes they’ve proven enough to be part of the Wild’s long-term future.

    After periodically using injuries and bad bounces as excuses this year, the players and Guerin took a different approach at their end-of-season press conference. 

    “There are no excuses,” Guerin said. “There were injuries, but that wasn’t why we didn’t make the playoffs. It’s a contributing factor but not the big reason. When I hear that our players say they were mentally fragile, I would agree with them. And if they said they weren’t competitive enough in big games, I would agree. We have to find our swagger.”

    Swagger isn’t the correct answer, either. It’s skill. Confidence usually comes from an understanding that a team is good enough to win. The Wild weren’t this season, and they will have a similar roster next season. Perhaps young players like Jesper Wallstedt, Liam Ohgren, and Marat Khusnutdinov step into more significant roles next year. 

    That’s the best way to improve an aging, flawed roster. But under Guerin, the Wild have typically been reluctant to empower their young players. He wants girth and guile. However, size and experience can only take a team so far. Ultimately, they need more skill to compete with the best teams in the West.

    “Kirill wants to win. I know that,” Guerin said. “And, yeah, I do feel we need to show him we’re committed to winning.”

    Without a top pick and a flawed, immovable core, how do the Wild become a contender before Kaprizov is a contender in 2026-27? How do they build out a second line so they can score enough to beat playoff opponents? How do they get over the hump? Guerin has become Ty Cobb, measuring players by height. Kaprizov probably thinks more like Judge Smails. 

    He would like to know if they can score. 

     

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    2 hours ago, raithis said:

    what makes you think that "better" coaches or players would choose to come here either?

    When did I ever assert that better coaches or players would choose to come here if that was the situation? Did you accidentally respond to someone else? Not really sure where you’re getting that from..

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    1 hour ago, Mateo3xm said:

    When did I ever assert that better coaches or players would choose to come here if that was the situation? Did you accidentally respond to someone else? Not really sure where you’re getting that from..

    You made an assertion that the owner won't let the team do a full rebuild.  If that's the only way you think Guerin can turn this around, then that would mean the deck is stacked against him if he isn't allowed to do that.  If no reasonable GM would want to be in the same situation, then coaches and players would likely see this too, wouldn't they?

    The thing is, a full rebuild isn't the only way this gets turned around.  We were already mired in that situation and we're close to finally coming out the other side.  I think we have drawn a good hand from the deck, but Billy needs to play his cards a bit better going forward.

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    On 5/1/2024 at 3:34 PM, TheGoosesAreLooses said:

    It comes down to playing like a team and not taking nights off. That is on the coach and GM to punish guys when they aren't in that game giving the effort they should be. By not punishing Mojo they made a statement that it was acceptable to take nights off. That attitude will become infectious among a losing team.

    I've coached teams that put forth great effort, and I've coached teams that haven't. You are spot on about laziness being infectious. But, sometimes, you just don't have anyone else that can take that place effectively. I think with the injuries, we were kind of in that place this season. I do think Beckman tried. I also think he needed 20 lbs. to be effective. If he was really trying, he would have done that in an offseason by now. If he shows up in training camp the same way, it's time to trade him.

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    10 hours ago, Mateo3xm said:

    Perhaps they weren’t playing to their best ability but don’t you think this team obviously has a lack of high quality players to send them farther?  It would be demoralizing to me to if our team didn’t have the personnel to complete with these talented teams yet the GM’s standards are far higher than the team’s capabilities. Even if they were playing to their highest capacity, I don’t think our team is skilled or deep enough to compete with Vegas, Dallas, Col, Winn etc.

    One identity that this team has had is it's a hard working team. But, they didn't do that this season very well. If you're less talented, well, that means you've got to outwork the other guys pretty significantly. To me, I saw a lot of quit, and that reveals the heart. 

     

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    10 hours ago, Mateo3xm said:

    But what about all the other holes on this team?….. 

    this team doesn’t have strong goaltending at the moment, the defense is smaller and also not very good (besides a few players) we have basically one elite line and it falls off rather drastically from there. BT himself isn’t going to turn this team around, I simply dont see it. Also what would we have to give to get him and how would that put us back in other areas?

    Head over to my fanpost (for lack of a better term) for more details on what I'd at least give up for him. Spoiler alert, it is an overpayment on paper. It was also written before I heard Yurov had signed his K deal. But, I would still do it.

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    3 hours ago, raithis said:

    The thing is, a full rebuild isn't the only way this gets turned around.  We were already mired in that situation and we're close to finally coming out the other side.  I think we have drawn a good hand from the deck, but Billy needs to play his cards a bit better going forward.

    Sometimes one of the hardest things to do is to know when the present is upon you and to quit building futures. That would mean a change in philosophy, and starting to use the assets differently. We're close to that point now, but not quite there.

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    I'm just a ex player from the early-mid 90's. Never got drafted but hung my skates out to dry after Junior A hockey. Been following are second hand me down team from the start.

         I'm sure everyone is in tune with needing new ownership/management. This franchise had done nothing but a Cinderella run in 2003. If Kaprizov is gone, boldy is gone, Ek wants a trade etc etc! Hard working team but need new blood and a total rebuild.

     

     

     

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    What Guerin said is just lip service when he turns around and locks up all the guys responsible for the playoff failures and his actions compel a potential high ended like Yurov to delay his arrival.  Sure seems like he’s just trying to maintain that status quo.

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    42 minutes ago, Beast said:

    What Guerin said is just lip service when he turns around and locks up all the guys responsible for the playoff failures and his actions compel a potential high ended like Yurov to delay his arrival.  Sure seems like he’s just trying to maintain that status quo.

    Yeah, It's looked like crap since last Summer's signings and the results of those decisions.

    I look at it kinda like putting a dog down. You don't wanna do it cause it's hard and painful even though it might be the best thing. It drags out but there is good reason to rip off the band-aid, take the pain, and move on. 

    In this context, it doesn't have to be a full rebuild but keeping Spurgeon, Foligno, Fred, NoJo, Zuccarello, Fleury, Goligoski, and Merrill is like a lumpy, tumor-riddled old Labrador who hasn't been breaking ice to retireve late season mallards for years and couldn't even jump in the boat if it tried...

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    On 5/2/2024 at 9:05 PM, mnfaninnc said:

    I do think Beckman tried.

    I think a year ago Guerin had little to no confidence in Beckman and Walker’s (remember him) chances of becoming pro’s, and turns out he was right.  That’s why his signed the apathetic core extensions before last season.  (Rossi was also question mark at that time).  Faced with choice of a bottom six of sub par veterans OR 6 Jake Liberace’s Guerin chose the vets

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    23 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    I think a year ago Guerin had little to no confidence in Beckman and Walker’s (remember him) chances of becoming pro’s, and turns out he was right.  That’s why his signed the apathetic core extensions before last season.  (Rossi was also question mark at that time).  Faced with choice of a bottom six of sub par veterans OR 6 Jake Liberace’s Guerin chose the vets

    i think that is about as accurate as we can see. Well done.

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