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  • Is Minnesota's "Grit" Just Reckless Play?


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    Tom Schreier

    Grit is a wise word for any hockey team to use in their marketing campaign. Who’s going to argue with grit? What hockey fan goes, Yeah, you know what? I think my team needs less grit. There should be less physicality in the playoffs. The players should skate around aimlessly and take more shots from the perimeter. 

    The Minnesota Wild’s “Grit First” promotional video got more viewership than the last 20 minutes of their Game 5 4-0 blowout in Dallas. Why? Because it represents an ideal – what the team ought to be. They’re supposed to finish their checks, score greasy goals, and win games in a hostile environment. 

    But Tuesday’s game belied their intent. 

    Forty-eight hours after criticizing the referees, Marcus Foligno hit Radek Faska near his knee. Foligno received a five-minute major and a game misconduct. “Major? I don’t know,” he fumed. “I don’t agree with it, obviously. I’m keeping my lane and unfortunately we both hit in that leg area. I won’t say it’s a knee on knee. I hit him in the upper area. He’s rotating out of the way. I don’t move my leg at all.”

    It was a lighter stance than his commentary on the officiating after Game 4 in St. Paul. “It’s a joke. It doesn’t make any sense,” Foligno said, calling the officials arrogant. “I go to hit a guy who touches the puck. It’s not interference. I go, I get high-sticked in the face. It’s not a tripping call when you hit a guy clean on. It’s bullshit.”

    Foligno wasn’t going to get the benefit of the doubt on Tuesday.

    Still, look at the tripping call on Foligno again. It’s not a trip. At least, not in the way we define it in the English dictionary – let alone in the NHL rulebook. But could it be a charge? Set your Wild fandom aside for a second and think like a hockey fan. You know what a charge is. You know why it’s in the rulebook. Foligno likely operates within the confines of the rules here, but it’s borderline, which invites a call. And Foligno is too valuable to sit in the penalty box. Furthermore, Minnesota’s penalty kill isn’t good enough to fend off Dallas with the man advantage.

    Grit isn’t really about operating in the rulebook’s grey areas. That is something teams do to gain an advantage. However, it can also be detrimental to the game and have adverse effects. By the letter of the law, Matt Dumba’s hit on Joe Pavelski in Game 1 was legal. But we saw its effect on Pavelski. He’s injured, and it gave the Stars a boost. They’re standing up for their guy. Dumba can lay guys out, but he doesn’t need to make a hit like that. 

    The Wild aren’t the only culpable party here. Ryan Suter has played dirty, hacking at Kirill Kaprizov’s ribs and committing penalties behind the play. The referees let more things go during the playoffs to avoid overly influencing the outcome of games. Players also accept that the postseason is a grind. Many are playing through things they wouldn’t in the regular season. They accept that there is less space on the ice and fewer penalties will be called. But that doesn’t mean it’s wise to risk two- or five-minute penalties with reckless play.

    Establishing physicality is about repeated hits and being more aggressive than the opponent. Outworking them on the boards, finishing checks, and clearing out the area in front of the net for your goalie. It’s not about checking a player in a way that will remove them from the series. The Wild and Stars are playing hockey; this isn’t Rollerball. And grit isn’t just about physicality. It’s about fighting for a rebound near the net. It’s overcoming a 3-0 deficit on the road and playing through injuries. 

    Grit is also an ambiguous term. It’s a great marketing tactic, but it means different things to different people. My suggestion? Focus less on grit and more on skill. At the risk of being obvious, the more skilled teams are better than the less-skilled ones. Yes, some teams advance because their goalie stands on his head. And others play stifling defense, which allows them to overachieve. But the Colorado Avalanche and Tampa Bay Lightning win championships because they’re more skilled than most other teams.

    The Wild have consistently chosen experience over skill. They stuffed Marco Rossi in the minors, appear to have moved on from Calen Addison, and didn’t start Filip Gustavsson in Game 2. Rossi would be the only bona fide Top-6 center on the roster if they could have gotten him up to NHL speed. Addison would have a role on the power play. Gustavsson stopped 51 of 53 pucks in four-and-a-half periods of hockey, and Dean Evason started Marc-Andre Fleury in Game 2. Next year, this trend needs to stop. Currently, Minnesota isn’t skilled enough to win a championship.

    Grit First is a fun slogan. That hype video is sweet. But it’s just that, a marketing tool. Next season, their slogan should be “We’re better than you.” They can still hit hard, punch in rebounds, and win puck scrums. But they can’t stick Kaprizov with a right wing as his center and a winger in his mid-30s forever. And we know what happened when they surrounded Matt Boldy with talent. Blame them all you want. I’m inclined to ask, What’s around them? How good is this team? Why didn’t they work with their talented young players to bring out the best in them?

    Or, put more succinctly, maybe they'd be less focused on grit if they had more skill.

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    I think you have a point about certain players costing the team with their antics, but I still think grit is a legitimate style of play that works. Krakens have no top-end skill but are very balanced across the board. They play a physical, intense style of hockey that’s akin to what I think the Wild are trying to achieve. But the bottom line is, you HAVE to be able to win your faceoffs and more than 2/3 players have to score reliably.

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    YES, reckless and undisciplined last game, no doubt.

    I realized this morning, that Dean could indeed be saying the right things but if the players go out and knee somebody ASAP and it derails the plan as a full departure from the strategy then that’s not on the coach and the psychological impact could be profound.

    We don’t know exactly what’s said within the group but you have to wonder who’s defining grit? That’s a metaphor anyway for what???

    What is grit? I think we know, but I wonder if the definition should include discipline. Is it easy to lose your temper and beat your pet raccoon when it swipes your ham-sammich and dives under the back seat of your pickup? You bet! I would make the argument though, that keeping a cool head and letting it fatten up and grow a happy, thick, coat of fur before turning it into an awesome Davy Crockett, Coonskin-hat is the more calculated way to show your toughness.

    My point is the Wild aren’t the grit-team they think they are. Don’t talk about it, do it. Even then, don’t talk about it because then your boasting makes you look like a dumb-ass when you don’t live up to your own self-proclaimed greatness. How bout keep your head down, do your job, win every little battle. Otherwise, you’re pretenders...

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    From some of the comments I have read over the last year Wilds biggest problem is at center time to see if Nyquist can help solve the problem Hartman can play wing on a bottom 6 line and turn it into a top 6 line on any team  even when EK comes back it’s time to mix thing’s up again 

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    13 minutes ago, Protec said:

    I realized this morning, that Dean could indeed be saying the right things but if the players go out and knee somebody ASAP and it derails the plan as a full departure from the strategy then that’s not on the coach and the psychological impact could be profound.

    You could argue that Evason is doing this.  But then, how do you defend the 0-professional coaching career playoff record?  The team listens to you during the regular season but goes deaf in the playoffs?  I don't think that's it.  

    I still don't believe we are dealing with reckless, I thought that was a terrible call which was again magnified by no answer on the PK when you lose the opening draw. I'm also not sure what Gustavsson was doing just laying there and not turning to pad stack and get arms up in the air.  I'm not suggesting going back to Fleury, but Goose2 made the initial save, he needs some help and got none.

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    I respect the Wilds staff and because I am not in the locker room and don’t know the players personally so even though I will suggest stuff I still support the coaches!! Try Nyquist at top six center line time to try to eliminate wilds biggest challenge 

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    57 minutes ago, Protec said:

    Is it easy to lose your temper and beat your pet raccoon when it swipes your ham-sammich and dives under the back seat of your pickup? You bet! I would make the argument though, that keeping a cool head and letting it fatten up and grow a happy, thick, coat of fur before turning it into an awesome Davy Crockett, Coonskin-hat is the more calculated way to show your toughness.

    You went the extra mile for this, and I for one appreciate the effort.  Nice hustle!

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    1 hour ago, Protec said:

    My point is the Wild aren’t the grit-team they think they are. Don’t talk about it, do it. Even then, don’t talk about it because then your boasting makes you look like a dumb-ass when you don’t live up to your own self-proclaimed greatness. How bout keep your head down, do your job, win every little battle. Otherwise, you’re pretenders...

    Agree with all this.  I'm rooting for Deano to get another year (and I think he will) because continuity is good.  The reason I believe it's not impossible BG cuts bait is because Deano's been in charge of this group for three (3+?) years so this group has his fingerprints all over it.  The discipline reflects Dean's leadership/coaching/teaching.  The buck for PP and PK ineffectiveness stops at Dean's desk.  Zero goals in a game 5 beat down?  Dean's fault.  But Pewter 97 and Boldy didn't deliver....Dean needs to recognize what other coach is doing to neutralize our offense and make necessary adjustments.  I think he's getting badly out coached again in this years playoffs, and BG doesn't suffer fools for long.  Just ask T-bot's wife. 

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    I pity the fool who makes GMBG look bad. Evason has had opportunity and runway to get going good. The playoffs require another gear from players but what about the coaching? DeBoer has been deep in the playoffs how many times???

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    Well my keyboard needs a cleaning after that raccoon line. A plus Protec. I agree with your points as well.

     

    I think we made a big mistake falling back on expirience this year and not developing some of our young guns in the majors. We've deprioritized up a few players because they don't play with "grit" or "snarl" and that may have an effect in a couple years. Maybe we just aren't trying for the right recipe or maybe we write it off as the cost of cap hits. Either way, I don't beleive this is the winning combination.

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    3 hours ago, Protec said:

    I pity the fool who makes GMBG look bad. Evason has had opportunity and runway to get going good. The playoffs require another gear from players but what about the coaching? DeBoer has been deep in the playoffs how many times???

    Fair. But the impact he has on the team long-term is questionable too. He wasn’t exactly a successful coach in the beginning of his NHL career. But going back to long term-impact, his first year with the devils: Stanley cup and since? It has taken years for New Jersey to be a contender. 
     

    Sharks? Again made it to the Cup with a star-powered roster. After a few years? Shitshow of a team.

    Vegas? Inherited the personnel, each team performed worse after a few years.
     

    Even for all his success, the players certainly didn’t miss him. Maybe with the Stars he has learned to foster better relationships with his players, but it clearly took him way more than second chances to learn that lesson. 
     

    I think a lot about the Russian Hockey documentary of Mice and Men. The russians were lead by this father figure of a man who clearly cared about his players. He understood the relationships he had and pushed them to be the best versions of themselves. Still, was not good enough. Then, he was replaced by the technical, calculated coach. Results were there, but the team still faltered at the pivotal point. I always wondered had they allowed the man who started the russian program, how much better it would’ve been? 
     

    The lesson here? The grass isn’t always greener on the other side, especially when it comes to NHL head coaches.

     

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    6 hours ago, Jon said:

    Fair. But the impact he has on the team long-term is questionable too. He wasn’t exactly a successful coach in the beginning of his NHL career. But going back to long term-impact, his first year with the devils: Stanley cup and since? It has taken years for New Jersey to be a contender. 
     

    Sharks? Again made it to the Cup with a star-powered roster. After a few years? Shitshow of a team.

    Vegas? Inherited the personnel, each team performed worse after a few years.
     

    Even for all his success, the players certainly didn’t miss him. Maybe with the Stars he has learned to foster better relationships with his players, but it clearly took him way more than second chances to learn that lesson. 
     

    I think a lot about the Russian Hockey documentary of Mice and Men. The russians were lead by this father figure of a man who clearly cared about his players. He understood the relationships he had and pushed them to be the best versions of themselves. Still, was not good enough. Then, he was replaced by the technical, calculated coach. Results were there, but the team still faltered at the pivotal point. I always wondered had they allowed the man who started the russian program, how much better it would’ve been? 
     

    The lesson here? The grass isn’t always greener on the other side, especially when it comes to NHL head coaches.

     

    I get what you’re saying.  I’d agree if we were having more success.

    But, we’re not making it to the Cup or conference finals finals and dropping game 7.  We’re getting our butts kicked out of the playoffs in the first round by teams we should be able beat.  We have a lawn full of crab grass, brown pet spots, and dog crap.  I don’t see how our grass would be less green by shaking up the coaching staff.

    A lot of it is on the players too.  I think Spurgeon’s “it’s about hard work and having fun,” comment when BG asks him what we’re trying to do here is telling.  Foligno is taking it to the other extreme and is running guys. Ek is always hurt.  Kaprisov has now disappeared in 2 of the last 3 playoff series.   Boldy is nonexistent.

    Continuing to do the same thing over and over with the same results because we’re scared of change isn’t something I’m interested in.  

     

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    Good points.
     

    It is mostly on the players. Their focus, intensity, commitment, ability to execute.

    I would like to see Dean exhibit more composure and poise as the refs eff-up the Wild. Again, the Wild don’t win when they’re all jacked up, frustrated and taking penalties. When they play disciplined, committed hockey they are very hard to beat. If Dean or hot-heads like Foligno and Hartman get rattled and pissed off, that doesn’t make them all better. It draws their focus away from what’s most important in those moments.

    Final thought, start at the root of the problem. If you take very few penalties then you don’t need to spend as much time or worry too much about the PK. Then you can practice the PP and have fewer problems to address. You also don’t give your opponents an easy angle to beat you or require an Elite Swede penalty killer, while you diminish your advantage as a 5v5 heavy-hitter. So why hasn’t this happened? I can only conclude it’s the players or coaching or combination. The more troubling part is that it’s the same things along with zero playoff scoring that got the Wild eliminated last season. Failure to improve on winning draws and taking fewer penalties is a huge problem if you asked me.

     

     

     

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    3 hours ago, Beast said:

    I get what you’re saying.  I’d agree if we were having more success.

    But, we’re not making it to the Cup or conference finals finals and dropping game 7.  We’re getting our butts kicked out of the playoffs in the first round by teams we should be able beat.  We have a lawn full of crab grass, brown pet spots, and dog crap.  I don’t see how our grass would be less green by shaking up the coaching staff.

    A lot of it is on the players too.  I think Spurgeon’s “it’s about hard work and having fun,” comment when BG asks him what we’re trying to do here is telling.  Foligno is taking it to the other extreme and is running guys. Ek is always hurt.  Kaprisov has now disappeared in 2 of the last 3 playoff series.   Boldy is nonexistent.

    Continuing to do the same thing over and over with the same results because we’re scared of change isn’t something I’m interested in.  

     

    What coach out on the market are you wanting? Able to guarantee success? What will this success look like? Not like you can poach the HC off of the Canes, Avs, or Bruins. So now you will be looking for someone who is cast off by another team or wasn't deemed an upgrade and is a coach FA to begin with. Not trying to pick a fight, but lots of similar comments about an issue but no ideas for a solution.

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    On 4/27/2023 at 10:52 AM, Protec said:

    YES, reckless and undisciplined last game, no doubt.

    I realized this morning, that Dean could indeed be saying the right things but if the players go out and knee somebody ASAP and it derails the plan as a full departure from the strategy then that’s not on the coach and the psychological impact could be profound.

    We don’t know exactly what’s said within the group but you have to wonder who’s defining grit? That’s a metaphor anyway for what???

    What is grit? I think we know, but I wonder if the definition should include discipline. Is it easy to lose your temper and beat your pet raccoon when it swipes your ham-sammich and dives under the back seat of your pickup? You bet! I would make the argument though, that keeping a cool head and letting it fatten up and grow a happy, thick, coat of fur before turning it into an awesome Davy Crockett, Coonskin-hat is the more calculated way to show your toughness.

    My point is the Wild aren’t the grit-team they think they are. Don’t talk about it, do it. Even then, don’t talk about it because then your boasting makes you look like a dumb-ass when you don’t live up to your own self-proclaimed greatness. How bout keep your head down, do your job, win every little battle. Otherwise, you’re pretenders...

    Couldn't agree more!

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