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  • Why Did the Wild Commit To Brock Faber But Not Marco Rossi?


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    Tom Schreier

    Brock Faber scored goals against the Carolina Hurricanes and New York Islanders on the Minnesota Wild’s most recent road trip, which is only notable because those are the first two goals Faber has scored this year. Well, at least while shooting the puck on net. His first goal of the year against the Winnipeg Jets on October 28 was a bit of a fluke.

    There was a time when it wasn’t a novelty when Faber scored. The former Gopher from Maple Grove looked like one of the Hanson brothers’ sons and played like he fell from Al MacInnis’ family tree. The apple of Minnesota’s eye had eight goals and 47 points as a rookie in 2023-24, and ten goals and 29 points last year.

    However, Faber was most productive before the 4 Nations Face-Off, a midseason exhibition tournament between the best players from Canada, Finland, Sweden, and the United States. Faber played heavy minutes in the tournament, leading Team USA with 28:50 of ice time in the final against Team Canada.

    Faber’s production dropped after the tournament, likely due to fatigue. He only scored one goal and didn’t have an assist in March. Faber had three goals and two assists in April, but he started slow again this year. He didn’t have a point in his first nine games, and he scored his first goal on a bank shot.

    That’s great if Faber made his money doing Dude Perfect videos. However, it’s a little more concerning when the Wild appear to have messed with his confidence by playing him 27:44 minutes per night on average while he was fatigued. 

    It’s also a problem when they have Faber on an eight-year, $68 million contract. Meanwhile, they have Marco Rossi, their rising star, on a three-year, $15 million bridge deal.

    When the Wild had the Zach Parise-Ryan Suter cap penalties, they always prioritized making the playoffs – where they always lost in the first round – over player development. Bill Guerin has also prioritized larger, older players, likely because he was a 6-foot-2, 220-pound forward who was more productive in his 30s than in his 20s. 

    Case in point: The Wild didn’t have a development path for Marco Rossi. Instead, they allowed him to get lost in the woods. 

    Minnesota said Rossi was as NHL-ready a prospect as you’d find at ninth overall. They drafted the Austrian musclehamster in 2020, and COVID derailed his early career. Then, Minnesota sent him on the train to nowhere. Er, well, the Iowa cornfields.

    In 2021-22, he had 53 points in 63 AHL games but only played in two NHL games. A year later, he broke camp with the team, but they sent him down after he had only one point in 19 games. That makes sense. However, they never recalled him after he had 51 points in 53 games with Iowa.

    Most teams would sprinkle in a prospect like Rossi throughout the year. Let him get sporadic NHL playing time to adjust to the world’s best league. Then again, most teams would tank to build a contender instead of indefinitely swaddling themselves in the insidious warmth of hockey purgatory. 

    Not the Wild, though. They celebrate reaching the playoffs, only to crash and burn in a fiery inferno.

    Minnesota’s playoff losses are inevitable. Eight of the past ten seasons have ended in a first-round exit. They’ve unapologetically embraced eternal damnation. As Bill Guerin will remind you, he inherited a team that couldn’t get to the second round. However, he’s done his part to extend the trend by prioritizing veterans who can win in the regular season but not in the playoffs over young talent.

    Liam Öhgren appears stuck in neutral. Jesper Wallstedt has bounced back after the Wild misled him on where he’d be playing. They traded a haul for David Jiříček, who somehow looks worse than he did last year.

    However, Faber looked like a success story from the start.

    Guerin traded Kevin Fiala and his soft skill (aka, scoring) for Faber, who only had seven goals in 97 games at the University of Minnesota. However, he turned into an offensive defenseman upon reaching the NHL, only to lose his scoring touch after the 4 Nations Face-Off. 

    Faber likely was better at 80% than most of Minnesota’s defensemen are at full capacity. Still, the Wild should have done what was right by him, knowing it was unlikely they’d go on a playoff run with their dead-cap penalties.

    More pertinently, Guerin claims to have a five-year plan, which we learned about five years into his tenure. However, it’s hard to see his vision here. Either sign Faber and Rossi to bridge deals to mitigate developmental risk, but with the understanding that contract extensions are more expensive after the cap raise. Or sign them both to long-term contracts under the less costly pre-cap raise contracts. 

    Don’t sign Faber long-term because he’s 6-foot-1, 200 lbs., and give Rossi a short-term extension because he’s 5-foot-9, 182 lbs. Stop channeling Ty Webb and evaluating players simply by height. Guerin should have planned to keep the best players around and prioritized player development above all else when they had no chance to win in the playoffs. Now, they have a roster that looks a lot like their dead-cap teams.

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    I'm a bit confused at the thesis of the article.  I'm not sure I understand what the conclusion/argument is?

    If you look at the rates/game it sure looks like Faber's offensively performing on par with prior seasons.

    Season Team GP G G/GP A A/GP PTS PTS/G PIM PIM/GP SOG SOG/GP PPP PPP/GP HITS HITS/GP BKS BKS/GP FOW FOW/GP
    2025-2026 MIN 17 3 0.18 6 0.35 9 0.53 0 0.00 38 2.24 4 0.24 6 0.35 34 2.00 0 0.00
    2024-2025 MIN 78 10 0.13 19 0.24 29 0.37 23 0.29 124 1.59 10 0.13 34 0.44 115 1.47 0 0.00
    2023-2024 MIN 82 8 0.10 39 0.48 47 0.57 26 0.32 136 1.66 16 0.20 65 0.79 151 1.84 0 0.00

    And our entire defensive core has looked pretty damn weak this season.  Brodin, Spurgeon, Middleton and Faber all look 'off.'

    Brockli is still eating up major minutes while drawing hard opponents on a team that's currently struggling to generate offense:

    image.png.f71809e26f53dc9262b960d9f19adca5.pngBut none of that currently answers why Fabes got paid, and Rossi got a bridge deal AND no other teams apparently expressing interests in his services.  The Flyers publicly stated that SillyG was asking for Foerster OR a late 1st round pick, which the Flyers said was too much... 

    So what are we all missing?  In a league starved for centers, nobody is willing to open their wallets for the guy?

     

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    Uh...he did?

    Guerin didn't just ship out Rossi at first trade offer.  Vancouver didn't offer anything valuable and Philly and Buffalo both said no.

    Rossi signed his deal, and unless Guerin trades him, who cares?  They signed him and he's rewarded them by being their top offensive center so far.

    Rossi isn't untradable, but he hasn't been left out to dry.  I swear sometimes we just want to fear monger for the sake of it.

     

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    Good article but I don’t see the Rossi rising star thing. . Faber I think most in nhl agree is a quality top 4 d man.  Rossi I don’t think the nhl agrees or do I that he’s a #1 center . Yes he’s a good player but imo not #1 on a contender. I have yet to see him being dominant against good teams. I haven’t seen the wild play good against good teams .  So they won a couple games against bad teams.  Rossi , kk and zuc weren’t doing anything special against a really bad team in Calgary . They were getting pinned in there own end because they are all to small to stop a cycle by rubbing a guy out on boards . I’ll take McKinnon, mcdavid   Eichel , bedard , Cooley , celebrini, Carlson , schieflie , byfield , Crosby malkin , mattews   Hughes , barkov , point , Thompson, etc. over Rossi all day long. Until he can matchup and produce in big games against these centers he’s just a good player on a mediocre team looking for a #1 center. Maybe he would be a #1 if he had a tkachuk on his wing  but I doubt it . Rossi is a good player but where he fits idk. . Not centering a top line for a small team trying to win a cup. So I’m fine with his contract . It makes him more valuable to trade for a # 1center hopefully. 

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    2 minutes ago, Dean said:

    Good article but I don’t see the Rossi rising star thing. . Faber I think most in nhl agree is a quality top 4 d man.  Rossi I don’t think the nhl agrees or do I that he’s a #1 center . Yes he’s a good player but imo not #1 on a contender. I have yet to see him being dominant against good teams. I haven’t seen the wild play good against good teams .  So they won a couple games against bad teams.  Rossi , kk and zuc weren’t doing anything special against a really bad team in Calgary . They were getting pinned in there own end because they are all to small to stop a cycle by rubbing a guy out on boards . I’ll take McKinnon, mcdavid   Eichel , bedard , Cooley , celebrini, Carlson , schieflie , byfield , Crosby malkin , mattews   Hughes , barkov , point , Thompson, etc. over Rossi all day long. Until he can matchup and produce in big games against these centers he’s just a good player on a mediocre team looking for a #1 center. Maybe he would be a #1 if he had a tkachuk on his wing  but I doubt it . Rossi is a good player but where he fits idk. . Not centering a top line for a small team trying to win a cup. So I’m fine with his contract . It makes him more valuable to trade for a # 1center hopefully. 

    💣Dean truth bomb 💣 

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    1 hour ago, Dean said:

    Rossi is a good player but where he fits idk. . Not centering a top line for a small team trying to win a cup. So I’m fine with his contract . It makes him more valuable to trade for a # 1center hopefully. 

    With Rossi not turning into a 1C you are probably correct 

    But why on earth you think that there is any GM out there offering a 1C in a trade for Rossi . Rossi in best case can bring a 2nd round pick and maybe a bottom 6 winger to spice it up 

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    I disagree with Dean's take, but not as you would think. This is not a good article, in fact it's a terrible one. Come on, Tom, you're a better writer than that. I really don't need to get into the specifics as Mr. Cheatachu has broken it down.

    But, what this sounds like is a lot of bitching over a small guy not getting paid and a larger guy getting paid.

    I'll just throw this one out for conversation: What if the Wild GM figured out that offering the young kids a bunch of money was counter productive to their development and hunger? 

    Or this: What if Faber and Boldy were signed long term, because as GM, Guerin had a feel for the cap for the next 5 years and wanted to get them signed before the cap went up?

    Or maybe it was fairly evident that Rossi had more holes in his game, his potential was to reach much higher, but still had a lot of work to do which is why you give someone a bridge in the 1st place.

    To be fair, I did not like either of the long term deals, but they will age as team friendly deals. I do believe in the bridge and getting the big contact after year 5 of service. This is the way you hold salaries down internally so that you can afford other stuff. Whether or not the other stuff is good is irrelevant, it's that you can afford the other stuff. 

    Rossi's contract appears easier to swallow after the Kaprizov signing, which may or may not have been bungled by management/ownership, but Rossi did put in the more work in the offseason, and came into camp a better physical player. He worked on details of his craft like taking draws along with the bulking up. Those things were not present when he was reportedly looking for $7m X 7. He was offered $5m X 5 before his stats went sideways in the last 1/4 of the year. $5m X 3 seems fair as we figure out what type of player he is. He's off to a terrific start, but he did that the last 2 years. The last 1/3 of the season will tell that story.

    Now, what about Faber? Why does he get paid? It's very difficult to find an RHS stud who can eat minutes all season long the way Faber can. He was a rock in his freshman year until he played through a rib injury. He outscored his Gophers' career in each of the last 2 seasons. He's on pace to do it again. Faber seems like that kind of player who is clutch, he doesn't always rush the puck like Buium, but picks his spots and scores when it's needed. These kind of guys are rare. 

    6'1" 200, which I doubt is not his actual weight right now, probably closer to 210, is not the reason he got paid. He got paid for being able to play competently almost half a game, and contribute offensively to boot. He doesn't get pushed around in his own end and can cover gaps at 60% of the ice. It's like having another Brodin back there who has offense. His intangibles are very good, and if there is an outside reason to sign him like that, it might be that he's a hometown kid. His contract looks like it will age very well. 

    About his character. He called himself out which he will do from time to time, and after that, you could see the focus and effort go up a notch, just like changing gears on a manual transmission. To date, this has not happened with Rossi. He will not go out and dominate half a game. He won't dominate a 1/3rd of a game. What he will do is play competently in the top 6 and be a fine complimentary piece to a superstar wing. 

    Where Dean and I do agree is that Rossi is a "fine" player. This is defined as less than elite but above good. Can he grow into a #1C? I would suggest that his ability to drive play and win faceoffs will likely be the deciding factors in that. Nobody cares if he's 5'9" if he can do that. But, he needs the weight to be able to do it. Watching him this year, a few times he has been able to get up under a guy and simply steal the puck. That's the kind of stuff I'd like to see consistently. It's a physical play without wiping a guy out into the boards. 

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    I’ve noticed a trend while following the Wild. Somebody makes an assumption about someone else’s motives. Said assumption gets reiterated by numerous podcasters, writers include assumptions in their articles. Maybe sometimes the assumptions are correct, definitely sometimes wrong and eventually almost always blown out of proportion. In the case of Rossi’s payday/future I’d say he’s a bit of a mystery still. He definitely is still improving. If he really was perceived around the league as a rising star he would have been offer sheeted IMO. 

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    I read in these comments so many times that if Rossi was so good, how come he was not offer sheeted by someone or shown interest by other teams.  Does that mean players like Luke Hughes or Mason McTavish this year were not seen as great players because they were not offer sheeted either?  Or how about Moritz Seider, Lucas Raymond, Seth Jarvis, or Matthew Beniers last year? 

    I would say all of these players were as good or better than Rossi when they were RFA's and none of them received anything from any other teams either.  Maybe, just maybe Rossi did not receive one because teams very rarely give offer sheets and it had nothing to do with his skill or perception from other teams in the league.

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    5 hours ago, SkolWild73 said:

    Maybe, just maybe Rossi did not receive one because teams very rarely give offer sheets and it had nothing to do with his skill or perception from other teams in the league.

    I'd like to take everyone back to the Sebastion Aho offersheet. What exactly did this accomplish for Montreal? The Montreal GM did not get Aho, in fact, he merely negotiated the contract for the Hurricanes, whereas the GM said thank you very much, matched, went on vacation for the summer.

    Later, the Hurricanes GM did the same thing to a cap strapped Montreal team landing Kotkaniemi where Montreal also lost Danault in free agency as retribution for trying to steal Aho. Waddell then moved very skillfully and gave Kotkaniemi a 1 yr. high salary offer, and then negotiated a lower cap long term deal. 

    In the case of some of these players, the team already owning that player's rights generally has enough $ ammunition to defend such a heist. The only way it works is if a team has serious cap trouble and cannot get it fixed in a week. This is what happened to Montreal, and what happened to Edmonton (throwing in a change in GM to further complicate things). 

    With this past year, why would anyone send an offer for McTavish since it was obvious it would be matched or he would be grossly overpaid and over compensated for. Why would a GM want to spend time negotiating the deal for Anaheim when he has plenty of issues he has to cover himself? 

    Guerin, stared at the league GMs, dared them to come with an offersheet, and told them he was going to match it. My opinion is that he would have accepted a return of 1, 2, 3 in the 2026 draft which was not lottery protected. Nobody wanted to reach to those heights of compensation, and Guerin had that much in reserves to match. 

    Now, let's also look at the actual offersheet. It brings conflict between the GMs. Armstrong was about to retire, and he hated Bowman's guts and didn't care. Waddell sought revenge. And this is the kind of thing a long time GM would wait for. Waddell waited 2 years  but remembered. GMs are very competitive, and most are old players. They will enact revenge if they are around long enough. Based upon what we know about Guerin, who doesn't think he would seek revenge?

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