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  • What Are the Wild’s Ideal Defensive Pairings When Brodin Returns?


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    Neil Urbanski

    For the first time since Zachary L'Heureux slew-footed Jared Spurgeon on January 2, the Minnesota Wild had a fully healthy defensive corps for their showdown against the Boston Bruins on Tuesday night.

    But with Brodin’s return, the Wild finally have the luxury of deploying their defensemen however they’d like. They have eight to choose from, but Travis Dermott seems destined for the waiver wire. That would leave the Wild with the seven defensemen who made the team out of training camp: Spurgeon, Brodin, Brock Faber, Jacob Middleton, Declan Chisholm, Jon Merrill, and Zach Bogosian.

    As the season heads into the backstretch and teams begin ramping up for the playoffs, the Wild must effectively structure their defensive corps to compete with the top teams in the Western Conference. While Wild fans are drooling over the possibility of prized prospect Zeev Buium joining the team for a playoff run, any talk of that happening is merely conjecture. 

    The Wild have used 14 different defensive pairs for at least 30 minutes of five-on-five gameplay this season, shown below from most to least used:

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     *Data from Natural Stat Trick

    While the three most frequently-used pairings (Middleton-Faber, Spurgeon-Chisholm, and Bogosian-Merrill) feature one right and one left-handed player, none feature Brodin. The smooth-skating Swede has missed 22 of Minnesota’s 53 games due to injury. That said, the Wild have most frequently deployed Brodin as part of a right-left duo.

    The Wild have a diverse mix of attributes among their seven chosen defensemen, allowing them to mix and match depending on matchups or roster availability. Still, finding three steady pairings that John Hynes can write into the lineup card every night would provide significant stability for the team. It would also afford goaltenders Filip Gustavsson and Marc-André Fleury some predictability as they anticipate shots and read plays behind the same lineup nightly. 

    Ideally, a contending team can ice a mobile, reliable shutdown pairing that can be deployed against the opposing team’s top line each night. It’s also essential for this pairing to have enough puck-moving ability to consistently turn loose pucks and turnovers into changes of possession that force those top lines to retreat and defend. 

    The Wild seem to have already settled on Brodin and Spurgeon, a duo that fits the bill perfectly. In the 161 minutes of hockey the two have played together this season, they’ve been primarily matched against each team’s best players. Despite that, they’ve produced a 67.95% expected goals percentage (and an actual goals percentage of 66.67%), which is the best mark in the NHL for pairs that have played at least 100 minutes. The league average for such pairings is 49.13%. Combined with elite two-way center Joel Eriksson Ek, Brodin, and Spurgeon can control play against anyone in the NHL.

    Brodin is the ideal shutdown defenseman and has proved it by dominating against the league’s top player, Connor McDavid. According to Natural Stat Trick, when Brodin is on the ice with McDavid over the past three seasons, Minnesota has outshot the Edmonton Oilers 39 to 23. Meanwhile, Edmonton has outscored the Wild 4-3. 

    Against Nathan MacKinnon, who many consider the second-best player in the NHL, Brodin and the Wild have been even in shots with 44 apiece. In that time, the Wild have outscored their division rival 6-2. 

    That is not a typo. 

    Brodin uses his superb skating, edgework, and anticipation to control the flow of play and frustrate the league’s top players. It’s tantalizing to think how that might unfold over a seven-game series. 

    The 5-foot-9, 166 lbs. Spurgeon is a master of body positioning and anticipation, and these tools make him the perfect player to read off of Brodin to further suffocate the opposition. The stats from the past three seasons also suggest this. Minnesota has outshot and outscored McDavid (33-22 and 3-2) and MacKinnon (19-18 and 1-0) with Spurgeon on the ice.

    With the first pair settled, the Wild can deploy complementary second and third pairs that can play different styles. They should pair Faber and Chisholm on the second pair and use Middleton with Merrill or Bogosian on the third. 

    Middleton has enjoyed a strong season thus far, but his play has slipped lately. It’s probably a sign of regression after a run of sustained good fortune. Per MoneyPuck, Middleton’s expected goals percentage thus far is -0.5%, while his actual goal differential is +10. 

    When a player outperforms their expected metrics by that much, some regression is expected, and that’s been visible over the past month. Middleton’s isolated performance has slowly dipped after a strong run of play to start the season.

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    Still, Middleton is a solid player and would slot in nicely as a featured piece of an elite third pair. Merrill or Bogosian would complement his decent mobility and ability to make timely attacks when joining the rush in transition. 

    Merrill has quietly had a strong season thus far. He plays a conservative, heady style, producing strong underlying results for the depth defenseman. The duo has been solid when he’s been deployed with Middleton. The Wild have outscored opponents 5-3 with them on the ice and had an expected goals percentage of 60.3%. Furthermore, both are 6-foot-3 and capable of withstanding heavy forechecking and winning puck battles in the corners. 

    Bogosian and Middleton have not been as effective. They’ve outscored opponents 5-4 but had only 47.33% expected goals. Still, Bogosian brings some versatility as a righty. He also possesses a heavy shot that can strike fear into opponents and buy some space high in the offensive zone. 

    Putting Faber and Chisholm together would be an ideal second pairing with enough versatility to defend and attack against various play styles. Ideally deployed against the opposition’s second and third lines, they can use their elite skating to move themselves out of trouble and control possession. They can keep forecheckers on their heels because of their ability to skate pucks out of the zone and counter quickly after corralling loose pucks or turnovers. 

    In the 43 minutes Faber and Chisholm have played together, the Wild have had a 52.63% expected goals percentage and outshot opponents 25-24. Opponents have outscored them 3-0, but the stats suggest that might turn around with time. Furthermore, neither player has had the strongest output lately when the Wild have deployed them with different partners. Solidifying them as a pair would allow them time to discover how to capitalize on their complementary skills. 

    Faber and Chisholm are strong skaters and puck movers. Chisholm has more natural offensive instincts and has been increasingly improving as a defender, even if he leaves something to be desired in this area. Faber is an intelligent player who excels at everything. His size and ability to play a variety of styles mean he can provide a steadying presence defensively and combine with Chisholm in the offensive zone to interchange up high to create shooting lanes, move pucks high-to-low and laterally, and give opposing wingers nightmares. 

    Brodin is back, and the Wild’s defense is finally whole. With the pieces in the right place, it can be versatile enough to match up well against anyone. A regular lineup with pairings of Spurgeon-Brodin, Faber-Chisholm, and Middleton-Merrill/Bogosian gives the team its best chance at playoff success.

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    6 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

    I was considering elite as a nation. Anyone on the Swedish national team, I would consider elite in that conversation. So, yeah, Goose would be too. Euros think differently and see the world a bit differently. Playing with their peers, I think, may have more importance to them and we know.

    you are being too generous with that definition 🙂

    but understood - so we have three swedes to welcome him "home"

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    5 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

    It looks as productive but the style was very different. Of course, these stats are after he came to us as an UFA which would probably be 4 years older than the current Faber. Suter rarely carried up the ice fully. When he did, he typically dumped it in instead of driving. It's hard to believe he had that many goals!

    everyone but MJ dumps the puck. it's a forgotten art now to keep it and carry it in with ease....can we bring fetisov over to teach that to our youth? seeing kuch do that is special

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    13 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

    Do you have names to fill in for these players? Pettersson is the main topic here, but who else would you be looking at for Boldy and Rossi?

    Go get guys like Tuch, tage Thompson, svechnikov.  There are plenty of guys out there that can be traded for but we have to trade good pieces to get them like Boldy, Rossi, Faber etc.  they won’t just want our junk

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    7 minutes ago, SkolWild73 said:

    Would not mind getting him either, but with all the contracts that Vancouver already has on defense, Marcus Pettersson through 2030 at 5.5mil, Filip Hronek through 2031 at 7.25 mil and having to resign Quinn Hughes after next year, probably in the 12-13 mil range, I doubt they would trade for Faber.  It would be nice to get him, but if we don't, let me try and ease your mind on what we might already have.

    Elias's stat for his age 23 season were 80 games, 32g, 32a, 64 points, +1 rating, 22g and 19 assists in 5 on 5. 

    Marco Rossi's age 23 season so far 54 games, 18g, 28a, +14 rating, 13g, 23a in 5 on 5.  Rossi is on pace this year for 27g, 42a, 69 points this year.  Maybe Rossi can make the leap and become the same type of player as Elias next year on smaller contract that would allow us to get someone else.

    it's very much unlikely to even be considered by Wild. but just trying to think outside-the-box.  yes we know the script - bring on another over-the-hill - Brock Nelson - one-of-us and repeat. Perhaps even Nick Leddy comes back. Exciting.

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    4 minutes ago, mnhockeyfan03 said:

    Go get guys like Tuch, tage Thompson, svechnikov.  There are plenty of guys out there that can be traded for but we have to trade good pieces to get them like Boldy, Rossi, Faber etc.  they won’t just want our junk

    I like these names.

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    2 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    it's very much unlikely to even be considered by Wild. but just trying to think outside-the-box.  yes we know the script - bring on another over-the-hill - Brock Nelson - one-of-us and repeat. Perhaps even Nick Leddy comes back. Exciting.

    Vancouver did not get all that much for Miller.  A first-round pick, a 22 defenseman that was picked in the 5th round and has 15 games experience, and a 25-year-old former first round pick whose best season was 2023 with 45 points.  Maybe we could swing a trade in the offseason for a 2026 first rounder and a couple of prospects or even another pick.  I would not want to trade Rossi since I think Ek is better suited as a high end 3C and having Elias and Rossi as 1C and 2C I think would be great.

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    2 minutes ago, SkolWild73 said:

    Vancouver did not get all that much for Miller.  A first-round pick, a 22 defenseman that was picked in the 5th round and has 15 games experience, and a 25-year-old former first round pick whose best season was 2023 with 45 points.  Maybe we could swing a trade in the offseason for a 2026 first rounder and a couple of prospects or even another pick.  I would not want to trade Rossi since I think Ek is better suited as a high end 3C and having Elias and Rossi as 1C and 2C I think would be great.

    yeah that return was nothing exciting....

    sure - i'd go for that - if VAN is willing

    and also just explore other possibilities - 

    dream 1 - would a usual flame out by leafs make them think over Faber for Nylander?

    dream 2 - would MTR be willing to trade Demidov for Faber or Rossi (do they even allow Russians to play for canadian teams? cause Minny can help with that and take him!

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    1 hour ago, mnhockeyfan03 said:

    Go get guys like Tuch, tage Thompson, svechnikov.  There are plenty of guys out there that can be traded for but we have to trade good pieces to get them like Boldy, Rossi, Faber etc.  they won’t just want our junk

    Out of those 3 give me Thompson. But c'mon man you have to be realistic, there's no way in hell Buffalo is going to give Tage up except for maybe Faber and some picks and he's locked in for 7yrs. Tuch may be able to easier to get but Boldy or Faber tilt the scales Buffalo's way, no thanks. Svech is on an 8yr deal with m-ntc's kicking in next year so he's locked unless they get a hell of a haul.

    A lot of people threw a shit fit with all the capital given to Jiri and any of the players people are dangling out there are going to take that or more.

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    This entire thread feels like a standard MN sport fan over reaction. The team gives us hope, something happens and they start losing, hysteria ensues. Throw logic and reason out the window and blow it up.

    It seems that most people agree that the Wild need to get bigger/heavier/grittier, to make it hard to play against. All the sudden the solution is EP. He may put up a lot of points, but is notoriously soft. He is the center equivalent of Boldy. 

    We look at our prospects and think they are cant miss or better than players on the team currently. Zeev looks promising but think he will be top line from the jump is optimistic. Jiri is 21 and not NHL ready but more valuable than Faber, who put up 47 pts and 20 mins/game at 21. And already putting Yurov in the top 6 when he has to come minnesota and adjust to life/play here.

    I think spurg ends up the odd man out this off season. Between his cap hit and availability the last 2 seasons, it doesn't work anymore. Hopefully BG finds a way to move his contract and either trenin or hartman and leaves $30m for FA this summer.

    You could target good players with that. Rantanen, Marner, Nelson, boeser, Ehlers.

     

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    30 minutes ago, M_Nels said:

    Out of those 3 give me Thompson. But c'mon man you have to be realistic, there's no way in hell Buffalo is going to give Tage up except for maybe Faber and some picks and he's locked in for 7yrs. Tuch may be able to easier to get but Boldy or Faber tilt the scales Buffalo's way, no thanks. Svech is on an 8yr deal with m-ntc's kicking in next year so he's locked unless they get a hell of a haul.

    A lot of people threw a shit fit with all the capital given to Jiri and any of the players people are dangling out there are going to take that or more.

    If you could trade Boldy and Faber for Tuch and Thompson I would do that right away.  They are the types of players we are missing 

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    59 minutes ago, Kato AK said:

    This entire thread feels like a standard MN sport fan over reaction. The team gives us hope, something happens and they start losing, hysteria ensues. Throw logic and reason out the window and blow it up.

    It seems that most people agree that the Wild need to get bigger/heavier/grittier, to make it hard to play against. All the sudden the solution is EP. He may put up a lot of points, but is notoriously soft. He is the center equivalent of Boldy. 

    We look at our prospects and think they are cant miss or better than players on the team currently. Zeev looks promising but think he will be top line from the jump is optimistic. Jiri is 21 and not NHL ready but more valuable than Faber, who put up 47 pts and 20 mins/game at 21. And already putting Yurov in the top 6 when he has to come minnesota and adjust to life/play here.

    I think spurg ends up the odd man out this off season. Between his cap hit and availability the last 2 seasons, it doesn't work anymore. Hopefully BG finds a way to move his contract and either trenin or hartman and leaves $30m for FA this summer.

    You could target good players with that. Rantanen, Marner, Nelson, boeser, Ehlers.

     

    He may put up a lot of points, but is notoriously soft. 

    someone has become very picky! for a team whose centers rarely crack 60 points, to say this as if no biggie is something.....102 and 89 points is no biggie? but whatever, you got your opinion.... but just imagine a center who is a wizard with the puck being paired up with Kaprizov. going from 100 points to 120 for him and Kap is realistic. 

     

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    15 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    He may put up a lot of points, but is notoriously soft. 

    someone has become very picky! for a team whose centers rarely crack 60 points, to say this as if no biggie is something.....102 and 89 points is no biggie? but whatever, you got your opinion.... but just imagine a center who is a wizard with the puck being paired up with Kaprizov. going from 100 points to 120 for him and Kap is realistic. 

     

    You might have to consider those 2 years an anomaly for EP and take into account 1) who he was playing with and 2) playing for a new contract. because outside of those 2 years, he is the same as Matt Boldy. How badly does a first line of KK, EP, and Rossi/Zucc get pushed around?

    If you are only concerned with points, try and get Marner in FA without giving up assets.

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    6 minutes ago, Kato AK said:

    You might have to consider those 2 years an anomaly for EP and take into account 1) who he was playing with and 2) playing for a new contract. because outside of those 2 years, he is the same as Matt Boldy. How badly does a first line of KK, EP, and Rossi/Zucc get pushed around?

    If you are only concerned with points, try and get Marner in FA without giving up assets.

    Usually a 100 point represent somewhat of a indicator that player is not an anomaly, however there is Hubedu or whatever his name is - so i trust you. if that's the case - move on.

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    17 hours ago, Enforceror said:

    I keep seeing Zegras get dangled. Anyone actually watch him play?

    I haven't seen him play much, but I think Zegras is all flash and no substance.  If you don't give him space and body him a bit, he folds like a wet napkin.  Sure, he occasionally shows up on some highlights reel, but there is a reason he is being dangled - Anaheim is hoping someone will overpay for the hype attached to a couple goals.

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    On 2/6/2025 at 1:00 PM, SkolWild73 said:

    I think Ek is better suited as a high end 3C

    The whispers are beginning with Ek.  He's never been an offensive dynamo, but with his mounting dent & scratches does he become the expendable trade piece this off-season?  I'm no longer predicting Ogz because he's played a grown man game the last couple games and shown he can be effective when playing the right way.  I'm now thinking Ek'r is expendable.  P-Body, how about Boldy?  For the love of god, if you're plan is to surround 97 with a lineup of Trenin and Fraudie's then yes, trade the 2nd best offensive talent in this lineup for some 28 year old mucker.

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    22 hours ago, Kato AK said:

    I think spurg ends up the odd man out this off season.

    I'd bet we're stuck with this contract until he goes onto permanent LTIR.  No one gives up an asset for this player + his contract.

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    19 hours ago, Enforceror said:

    I keep seeing Zegras get dangled. Anyone actually watch him play?

    I've got to believe (and hope I'm right) that this is the opposite of the type of player Guerin wants in the locker room.  He's the opposite of McTavish in terms of grit.  But you never know, Guerin pursued Laine.

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    46 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    I'd bet we're stuck with this contract until he goes onto permanent LTIR.  No one gives up an asset for this player + his contract.

    I mean....there are ways to get teams to take a contract. Add draft picks or a prospect, or even take in the ole future considerations.

    But if you free up the cap space and get a good player, could be worth it.

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    46 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said:

     He's the opposite of McTavish in terms of grit.  But you never know, Guerin pursued Laine.

    If contract talks with Rossi go south, I wonder if a Rossi for McTavish is plausible?

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