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  • The Wild Have A Liam Öhgren Conundrum


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    Tony Abbott

    When gaming out the best-case scenario for the 2024 Minnesota Wild, Liam Öhgren is almost definitely a part of that team. While Öhgren is considered part of the second-tier of a loaded Wild prospect pool, he's immensely talented. EP Rinkside ranked the 2022 first-rounder 54th in their Top-100 Affiliated Prospects list, and every one of his tools rated at an above-average grade. For a team that may lack above-average shooters and skaters, Öhgren is an asset the Wild could use -- and use right away.

    We know that the Wild will play their kids at some point this season. The way they've constructed their roster almost requires someone to step up for a top-six role. The Wild sent Riley Heidt, their breakout prospect from last year, back to Canadian Juniors this week after looking not quite comfortable with the speed and physicality of the NHL preseason, so that narrows down Minnesota's options.

    Arguably, if we consider Marat Khusnutdinov a lock to make the roster, we've narrowed it down to one player: Öhgren.

    Is he ready for prime time?

    After Friday's game, it looked like the answer was yes. In Minnesota's 8-5 romp over the Winnipeg Jets' (mostly-prospect-filled) squad, Öhgren looked dominant at times alongside Joel Eriksson Ek and Yakov Trenin. The trio dominated possession time, and Öhgren scored a late goal by crashing the net for a rebound in a very Eriksson Ek-ian fashion.

    After admittedly "not feeling good" in his first preseason game, Öhgren bounced back with a statement, which would hopefully springboard his momentum in a roster battle.

    That momentum lasted until Sunday. Playing the Dallas Stars in a mostly prospect-on-prospect tilt, Öhgren's role went from being a supporting player on Eriksson Ek's line to being an offensive catalyst. Playing beside Jakub Lauko and Ben Jones, Öhgren struggled to find his footing. His lone shot attempt came late in the game after John Hynes moved him up to Marco Rossi's line.

    However, the 20-year-old Swede still had chances to impress, and he did again on Tuesday night. Reunited with Eriksson Ek and with Marcus Johansson as the third member of the line, Öhgren shone again.

    Their line bullied the Chicago Blackhawks despite seeing a regular diet of Connor Bedard and Tyler Bertuzzi. The trio attempted 16 shots to Chicago's three as a unit. In Öhgren's nearly nine minutes of sharing the ice with Bedard, the Wild out-attempted Chicago by a 14-6 margin. Per Natural Stat Trick, Öhgren also led Minnesota with 0.36 individual expected goals on his shots.

    We've seen two versions of Öhgren: One who thrives alongside big-time players like Eriksson Ek and one who struggles when tasked to create offense on his own. If you're the Wild, what do you do here? What's best for the team, and what's best for his development?

    The Wild remain uncommitted as of Wednesday afternoon. Öhgren is still on the Wild's roster and splitting time with Johansson on Eriksson Ek and Matt Boldy's line at practice.

    Whatever the decision ultimately becomes might reveal what Minnesota eventually sees their top prospect becoming. Are they happy if Öhgren becomes a high-end supporting player? Someone who may not be the offensive catalyst of their line but serves as a viable running mate to a star player like Eriksson Ek, Boldy, or Kirill Kaprizov?

    If so, there are much, much worse places for him to develop than riding shotgun with Eriksson Ek. His defensive prowess and net-front presence would benefit any player, particularly someone with a well-rounded offensive game like Öhgren. It's also a bonus that playing with Eriksson Ek would also allow Öhgren to play more like Eriksson Ek. The veteran Swede's relentless forechecking tends to set the tone for his line.

    But perhaps the Wild do see Öhgren as a catalyst of his own line. If so, they may pigeonhole him in a supporting role that won't benefit his development in the long term. If the Wild are looking for Öhgren to run his own line, he's not ready for that at the NHL level. To become ready for that, he's going to need reps. He'll need to get in the habit of touching the puck a ton, creating his own shot, and scoring in the AHL. That's probably not happening as a third wheel behind Eriksson Ek and Boldy, who both see a lot of 5-on-5 shots of their own.

    And that's the push-and-pull that Minnesota is going to be faced with when making this decision. Is Öhgren good enough to play in the NHL? Probably, at least in the right scenario. Are the Wild a better team for it? Probably, or at the very least, they'll have more upside. But could Öhgren benefit from playing in the AHL? The answer is probably also yes.

    He will likely play in the NHL this year, but figuring out the exact right time for him to be in the lineup is a tricky balancing act.

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    Watching last nights game on youtube All About Hockey.  Lauko with a honey badger forecheck creating turnover and breakaway leading to gudro's garbage goal.

    I see you LOTR-KO!!!  Like this kid!

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    2nd period and another noticeable shift by MaRat.  his effective pressure is unlike 89's 'pressure' where 89 is just kind of following the puck around the ice always a second late.  22 is often 1/2 second ahead of the play forcing opponent into a pass that creates the turnover.  

    Pewter Prospects has MaRat as the top prospect to watch this season.   

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    Guerin spends about 10 min in the booth in 2nd with Carts and Panther.  He paints a good picture of his philosophy for team chemistry and keeping players he likes around and creating an environment where players want to stay here.  My GDS is in remission...I drank some of the kool-aid.

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    Ohgren will be fine.  

    - It's a waiting game until Mojo gets traded or it's next year and the contract expires.

    - They obviously don't want Ohgren riding pine in the press box, which is why Jones or Boyd get first dibs in that spot.

    - Injuries are bound to happen.  Guess who is likely #1 on the call list?

     

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    3 hours ago, Will D. Ness said:

    He is splitting time with Nojo in practice?  I still have hope.

    Wish NoJo the most debilitating minor injury possible without long-term consequences other than making him unavailable to the Wild for the next 82 games. 

    40 minutes ago, Enforceror said:

    That caught my eye as well. We can only hope.

    Hope, might not cut it. Gonna need to sneak the Lloyd Christmas technique into NoJo's coffee. 

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    1 hour ago, Protec said:

    Wish NoJo the most debilitating minor injury possible without long-term consequences other than making him unavailable to the Wild for the next 82 games. 

    Hope, might not cut it. Gonna need to sneak the Lloyd Christmas technique into NoJo's coffee. 

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    I'm in. I'll get the ski masks.

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    Watching 3rd period now.  MaRat cooking with 97 for couple high grade scoring chances.  Yes 97 makes everyone better, but M-Rat looking like he may be a needle mover this season.  I like it aaa-lauut.

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    6 hours ago, FredJohnson said:

    Send Nojo packin.

    Put him on a Mo-Ped, and point him towards Aspen.

    The more I think about it, perhaps these jokes should be directed towards GMBG and Hynes. They're the ones who keep playing #90.

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    2 hours ago, Protec said:

    Put him on a Mo-Ped, and point him towards Aspen.

    The more I think about it, perhaps these jokes should be directed towards GMBG and Hynes. They're the ones who keep playing #90.

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    Give mojo the Petey treatment

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    Ohgren can learn and develop on the Ekker line and excel. He does not need to spend time in Iowa learning the same thing. He is only 20 and has only played a handful of games in the US, but still excels with quality line mates. NoJo will never again be a consistent producer. Boldy-Ek-Ohgren makes a very talented and large line that can score and defend. With NoJo, the line will have a 2-man effort.

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    32 minutes ago, Up North Guy said:

    Ohgren can learn and develop on the Ekker line and excel. He does not need to spend time in Iowa learning the same thing. He is only 20 and has only played a handful of games in the US, but still excels with quality line mates. NoJo will never again be a consistent producer. Boldy-Ek-Ohgren makes a very talented and large line that can score and defend. With NoJo, the line will have a 2-man effort.

    I keep wondering why NoJo continues to get 2nd line time. There has to be something Hynes/Guerin see there as they are in the best position to make those calls. I just don't see it. His zone entries end up with a turnover 99% of the time. He's not a scoring threat and I don't see him as a playmaker. What value does he bring that we aren't seeing from the couch?

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    Are the Wild a better team with Nojo or Ohgren on that 2nd line. Even though Ohgren has disappeared a few times on lines where he didn't have the support of Ek or others, he has been more effective on offense and defense than Nojo when he is supported. Being on that 2nd line should speed up his development and confidence compared to playing on the 4th line or going back to Iowa. As Enforceror said, unless BG and Hynes have a bigger long-term plan or they're trying to put Nojo in a place to trade him for beer money, what are they seeing. 

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    Heard the best Corsi-for forward lines against the Black...hawks* were:

    Kap - Rossi - Zucky  87.5%
    Ogie - Ek - NoJo 84%
    Trenin - Hartzy - Foli 81%
    Loco - MaRat - Frauddie 78%
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    *Note: it was the Hawks and they SUCK.


     

    Please replace NoJo (not Ogie) with Boldy when he's back from injury.

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    The OBE line could be pretty faboom IMO. (Ogie, Boldy, Ek) 😁

    NoJo was good at Worlds. What's going on at the NHL level is the big question. He is a non-factor against CHI, so which team WILL he be good against? I know it's clown-world when NoJo gets 17min TOI but doesn't stand out or get on the scoresheet. 

    I think they see Ogie squeezing carbon fiber out of his stick and can he go 82 NHL games mentally? He's still pretty young. I don't think they wanna send him to the AHL like with Rossi. 

    I sense they want him to make it like Rossi but Jones is more mature and has had a scoring touch. Having Ogie in a top role in IA shouldn't hurt. Rossi did it and even Ek started slowly. I like Ogie over NoJo all day. Ogie, Boldy, Ek would be a nice mix of talents, speed, skill, power, size. I just don't know that Ogie is ready for the big stage yet. He could get confidence and play NA hockey for a year or come in halfway. My thought is, do you send him down like Rossi after a slow start, or just put him at the top of IA's lineup straight away? The Wild have some decisions to make and sticking with NoJo is mind-boggling. Ogie should really be a L2 guy over NoJo. An OBE combination seems like it would work well. 

     

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    29 minutes ago, Protec said:

    The OBE line could be pretty faboom IMO. (Ogie, Boldy, Ek) 😁

    NoJo was good at Worlds. What's going on at the NHL level is the big question. He is a non-factor against CHI, so which team WILL he be good against? I know it's clown-world when NoJo gets 17min TOI but doesn't stand out or get on the scoresheet. 

    I think they see Ogie squeezing carbon fiber out of his stick and can he go 82 NHL games mentally? He's still pretty young. I don't think they wanna send him to the AHL like with Rossi. 

    I sense they want him to make it like Rossi but Jones is more mature and has had a scoring touch. Having Ogie in a top role in IA shouldn't hurt. Rossi did it and even Ek started slowly. I like Ogie over NoJo all day. Ogie, Boldy, Ek would be a nice mix of talents, speed, skill, power, size. I just don't know that Ogie is ready for the big stage yet. He could get confidence and play NA hockey for a year or come in halfway. My thought is, do you send him down like Rossi after a slow start, or just put him at the top of IA's lineup straight away? The Wild have some decisions to make and sticking with NoJo is mind-boggling. Ogie should really be a L2 guy over NoJo. An OBE combination seems like it would work well. 

     

    I also like this line. I didn't think OG looked out of place at all. Not wow-ing anyone yet but I think he belongs in the N.

    Hynes' interview today alluded to decisions still not being made regarding who is going to Iowa. I really do think they're on the fence between NoJo and OG for a spot.

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    1 hour ago, Protec said:

    I think they see Ogie squeezing carbon fiber out of his stick and can he go 82 NHL games mentally?

    I'd think JEEk could put the proverbial arm around Ogie and coach him the details.

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