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  • Rossi Will Start Training Camp Still Looking For A Prime Opportunity


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    Tony Abbott

    Minnesota Wild fans don't have to wait until training camp opens on Wednesday to figure out one of the biggest questions of the offseason. What will happen with Marco Rossi? is the unknown of the offseason, and one which their playoff hopes hinge upon. 

    We got the start of that answer on Monday, when Dean Evason sat down with The Athletic's Michael Russo to discuss the state of the team entering camp. "He'll start with Marcus Foligno and Freddy Gaudreau," Evason announced, confirming that he'd begin the year outside of a top-six role. "We think that would be a very strong line."

    It might read as a blow to those in the fanbase who'd like to see what the highly-touted center -- one EP Rinkside ranked as a Top-25 prospect last month -- get a true shot in the lineup. But while Evason's lineup at the start of training camp remained largely intact through opening night, Evason is gesturing towards flexibility. In response to a question about moving Rossi up, he told Russo, "Maybe there's a position where Rossi, [Marcus Johansson, and Matt Boldy] play together [on the second line]. ... There's certainly some areas for us to tinker with."

    That was the first real hint that the Wild's well-documented reluctance to elevate Rossi into a position to succeed may be coming to an end. Even as such, he's starting the year once again with the task of having to prove he can score points on a lower line before moving to the top-six role Minnesota drafted him to fill.

    It should be noted that Minnesota's lack of cap space made it impossible for the Wild's center situation to get any better. Arguably, it got worse. Joel Eriksson Ek and Ryan Hartman remain, but Sam Steel moved on in free agency. Steel had filled the role for two months while Hartman was demoted, then injured. On paper, it makes little sense that Hartman would get priority in that kind of rule over Rossi. One is a 29-year-old pending free agent, and the other is a top-10 pick who represents a large chunk of the franchise's long-term hopes.

    Again, the path to a top-six role appears more open this year, and it isn't unusual to see teams break in their prospects on lower lines. They technically did that with Boldy as a rookie on a line that included Gaudreau. So is this a big deal?

    Arguably, yes, because Rossi doesn't need to break into the NHL. He did that with Minnesota last year. Rossi played 19 games and held his own except for one problem: He couldn't score. It was a problem that the Wild created because they didn't put in the best position to score. He spent most of his minutes on the third- and fourth-lines.

    Rossi is probably in a better position to succeed than last year. If Gaudreau and Foligno are healthy, they'll provide their usual steady two-way play to go with Rossi's. That didn't bear out in limited minutes last year. But after an offseason where Rossi has reportedly put on 15 pounds of muscle, it could well be the making of strong third line.

    But is he in the best position to score, which is the thing the Wild want for him to earn his way into a higher role? It's hard to make that case.

    Gaudreau and Foligno are both fan favorites who stepped into productive seasons in their late 20s that few saw coming from them. Foligno had a career-high 23 goals and 42 points in 2021-22, a year Gaudreau set a personal best with 44 points, then followed up with a career-high 19 goals last year. Both players make their teammates better defensively.

    How much better they make their teammates offensively is a murkier question. Foligno is aggressive on the forecheck and will bang home rebounds, which theoretically helps Rossi's assist totals. But even in a year where Gaudreau scored a career-high in goals, he didn't help anyone push the pace at 5-on-5 last season. Foligno and Gaudreau rarely shoot. Foligno fired only 5.1 shots per hour at 5-on-5 and Gaudreau only 6.4 times per hour over the past two seasons. That definitely isn't good for the assist totals.

    The idea might be that Rossi would have no choice but to take over offensively with those two linemates, and maybe that will work. But that sounds like a recipe for a slow start, which Rossi spoke of at length as being a drain on his confidence last year. That strategy also didn't work for Boldy last season. He was mired in a deep slump before getting top-six help in Eriksson Ek and Johansson late in the season.

    Seeing Foligno and Gaudreau at their best in the recent past might assuage concerns, but the red flags are still there. If we as a fan base take away our attachment to "Moose" and "Freddy Hockey," would we be as confident in the success of this line? Imagine instead the Wild traded Foligno and Gaudreau to a time machine and got back a 30-year-old Eric Fehr and a 31-year-old Paul Byron. Chances are, fans would be much more nervous heading into the season.

    Why those two names? They're the most similar skaters to Foligno and Gaudreau, respectively, per Evolving-Hockey's Skater Similarity tool. Contrast that to Boldy's "third line," which boasted an 80-point scorer in Kevin Fiala. Boldy was lower in the lineup, but in a great position to score, and he did. And again, in the first half last year, when his linemates resembled more typical third-liners, he struggled.

    The hope is that Evason gives Rossi opportunities to skate higher in the lineup in the preseason. If so, Rossi needs to grab onto that chance and not let go, because the alternative puts him at much greater risk of an underwhelming season. Luckily, Rossi seems to understand the stakes. He spent this summer in Minnesota working out with the team and getting stronger. It appears he's done everything he can to make sure he seizes the moment. If that kind of determination translates to his play on the ice, all he needs is that moment to present itself.

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    5 hours ago, TCMooch said:

    I am not a fan of Evason as a coach. I think he stifles prospects and has no idea on how to develop them properly.

    Why the fuck would you not start a top 10 picked prospect on the first line and set him up to succeed? He is already defensively responsible. This is an idiotic plan.

    If Evason has a reputation for anything, it's developing players.

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    4 hours ago, Willy the poor boy said:

    If Evason has a reputation for anything, it's developing players.

    We've had this battle before, he develops his regulars...Freddy Hockey? Who else on this team has he developed?

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    10 hours ago, TCMooch said:

    I am not a fan of Evason as a coach. I think he stifles prospects and has no idea on how to develop them properly.

    Why the fuck would you not start a top 10 picked prospect on the first line and set him up to succeed? He is already defensively responsible. This is an idiotic plan.

    Agree on DE, but don't believe Rossi is the net front presence we need with KK and Zucci unless he pulls some Parise shit out of his breezers with his 15# of added weight. Only then, would I be excited for that match up.

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    2 hours ago, vonlonster67 said:

    We've had this battle before, he develops his regulars...Freddy Hockey? Who else on this team has he developed?

    Fiala. They told Rossi what he needed to do in the offseason and he did it. Seriously the list is endless. Dewar, Duhaime, Shaw are some of the young guys, they've all improved their games since coming up.

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    2 minutes ago, Willy the poor boy said:

    Fiala. They told Rossi what he needed to do in the offseason and he did it. Seriously the list is endless. Dewar, Duhaime, Shaw are some of the young guys, they've all improved their games since coming up.

    I guess the better question would be what is the definition of development based off draft position, talent, and history of their development. 

    I'm not ready to give him all the credit. Its really a deeper question that I'd be curious to hear from a scout or NHL player on their insight because it's do multifaceted. 

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    I agree. I'm not saying it's ALL DE. but he sure as hell, IMO, puts them in positions to succeed. He was an AHL coach which would be a good definition of a developmental coach.

     I think you once told me it was the players that put in the work to get better. That's 100% true, but that does not mean and is unlikely that happens w/o direction from the coach(es). 

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    On 9/21/2023 at 8:11 PM, Willy the poor boy said:

    Fiala. They told Rossi what he needed to do in the offseason and he did it. Seriously the list is endless. Dewar, Duhaime, Shaw are some of the young guys, they've all improved their games since coming up.

    LOL Dean did nothing for Fiala except piss him off. Fiala had gamebreaking talent and DE refused to put him with someone decent until Boldy came up, Held him to a double standard and sent Fiala running for LA at the soonest chance possible. I understand he would have left anyway due to cap constraint but it sure seemed like he was champing at the bit to get out of Minn. 

    I have trouble believing DE helped his development at all. He has flourished in LA where they don't expect him to be something he is not, a 2 way winger. Instead they give him the tools to maximize his scoring and take the good with the bad. Even Fiala made a couple comments to LA media after the fact that sounded like the relationship was sour there.

    Dewar, Shaw and Duhaime are all prototypical DE guys. Gritty, 2 way players that are extremely responsible on the defensive side. They also are all replaceable bottom 6 guys. We have yet to see him develop a skill player that wasn't already a huge talent, ready for the NHL

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    3 minutes ago, TheGoosesAreLooses said:

    LOL Dean did nothing for Fiala except piss him off. Fiala had gamebreaking talent and DE refused to put him with someone decent until Boldy came up, Held him to a double standard and sent Fiala running for LA at the soonest chance possible. I understand he would have left anyway due to cap constraint but it sure seemed like he was champing at the bit to get out of Minn. 

    I have trouble believing DE helped his development at all. He has flourished in LA where they don't expect him to be something he is not, a 2 way winger. Instead they give him the tools to maximize his scoring and take the good with the bad. Even Fiala made a couple comments to LA media after the fact that sounded like the relationship was sour there.

    Dewar, Shaw and Duhaime are all prototypical DE guys. Gritty, 2 way players that are extremely responsible on the defensive side. They also are all replaceable bottom 6 guys. We have yet to see him develop a skill player that wasn't already a huge talent, ready for the NHL

    That's the Goose I know! 😎

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    1 hour ago, TheGoosesAreLooses said:

    LOL Dean did nothing for Fiala except piss him off. Fiala had gamebreaking talent and DE refused to put him with someone decent until Boldy came up, Held him to a double standard and sent Fiala running for LA at the soonest chance possible. I understand he would have left anyway due to cap constraint but it sure seemed like he was champing at the bit to get out of Minn. 

    I have trouble believing DE helped his development at all. He has flourished in LA where they don't expect him to be something he is not, a 2 way winger. Instead they give him the tools to maximize his scoring and take the good with the bad. Even Fiala made a couple comments to LA media after the fact that sounded like the relationship was sour there.

    Dewar, Shaw and Duhaime are all prototypical DE guys. Gritty, 2 way players that are extremely responsible on the defensive side. They also are all replaceable bottom 6 guys. We have yet to see him develop a skill player that wasn't already a huge talent, ready for the NHL

    DE coached Fiala in the AHL in Nashville, and when he got here to MN. No player develops without putting in the work, and I would imagine few develop without the correct coaching. It's easy to say DE didn't help him along but it's also unlikely. Let go of the anger, Deano is your friend and a great coach.

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