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  • Parise Is Gearing Up To Dunk On Guerin, Right?


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    Tony Abbott

    There are many reasons an NHL player will sign with a particular team. Usually, it's some combination of four things: Money, opportunity, the desire to live in a particular place, or a chance to win the Stanley Cup.

    But who says that list has to be exclusive? Who says that we can't add another potential reason to the pile?

    Let's propose one: Revenge. 

    Native Minnesotan Zach Parise is perhaps the most-loved player in Minnesota Wild history. His father, former Minnesota North Stars winger J.P. Parise, gave old-school hockey fans the warm-and-fuzzies. His work ethic also endeared him to Wild fans. So did the 199 goals during his career in St. Paul, the third-most in franchise history. 

    Now he's playing for the team Wild fans arguably hate the most, the Colorado Avalanche. Of course, it's entirely within his right, and there are legitimate reasons for him to sign there. The Avs are a perennial Cup contender, which checks off the potential to win Lord Stanley's Cup for the first time in his career. 

    Then there's Colorado's depth chart behind Mikko Rantanen. With all due respect to a resurgent Jonathan Drouin, underrated Logan O'Connor, and Miles Wood, there's a spot for Parise to grab if he still has his game. There's plausible deniability that the Avs were the best landing spot for him over potential suitors in the NHL-leading Boston Bruins and the New York Islanders.

    But, counterpoint: C'mon.

    When the Wild bought out Parise and fellow teammate, alternate captain, and $98 million man Ryan Suter on the same day, Parise retreated to Long Island. There he played for Lou Lamoriello, the GM who drafted him in New Jersey. Entering his age-37 season and coming off his lowest point-per-game average since his rookie year, he had to prove there was something left in the tank. 

    Two one-year contracts later, he's proved he can still get you about 35 points a season in a bit role. He even notched 21 goals last year. He didn't need to prove anything this time around in free agency.

    Except, perhaps for one thing: He could be part of a winning team. The Wild bought him out because they were convinced they were better off without him. And for two seasons, they were.

    But now the Wild are reeling in sixth place in the Central Division, and what better way to stick it to Bill Guerin, the GM who cast him off, than to make a playoff run with a division rival? Getting paid by the Wild to win a Stanley Cup for another team would have to feel sweet. But doing it for the hated Avalanche would make it even more satisfying.

    We can't know what's in Parise's heart, of course. As an NHL player, he'll probably say the "right" things that don't betray ill will towards the Wild. 

    But again: C'mon. Fans know how intense and competitive Parise is. How could proving his old team wrong and giving them some embarrassment not be a factor here? Can we expect to believe he didn't speak to or text Ryan Suter, who locked in a four-year deal with the rival Dallas Stars immediately after the Wild bought him out, this summer? Or that something to the effect of How did it feel to knock the Wild out? didn't come up in conversation? 

    C'mon. That's hard to believe. 

    If nothing else, seeing Parise join Suter in turning heel gives Minnesota fans a bit of intrigue heading into the home stretch of a season where the Wild likely won't make the playoffs. And if Minnesota manages to pull off the comeback in the standings to make a Wild Card spot, their likely opponents would include Parise's Avs and Suter's Stars for Round 1. Regardless of whether the Wild make the dance, Parise will get his chance to dunk all over the team and GM that rejected him. 

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    If Parise did sign with the Avs for revenge, that reflects more on him being petty than the Wild (rightly) avoiding potentially $40m in cap problems.

    If he wins a cup there, fine.  Hardly anything they can do about it.  They tried winning with him, they couldn't.  If the Avs do, more power to him.

    Besides, trying to count the amount of players in all sports who found more success after leaving Minnesota is a thankless task.  Kevin Garnett is probably just the top of the iceberg.  Parise winning at this point is good for him, but means squat for us.

     

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    I would have chosen the Avs over the Bruins too. The Bruins simply don't have the center depth to make a good, deep playoff run on paper. The Avs do. Watching Parise play Suter in a series might be compelling. 

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    I have far more contempt for Dallas, Winnipeg, St. Louis, or Chicago.

    Colorado has been a decent rival, but I don't know why fans would hate them more than other teams in the division. The Wild haven't faced Colorado in the playoffs since 2014, and they beat them that year, and there's also great memories of beating them in 2003 on their way to the conference finals.

    Seems like it would primarily be a team in 1st place in their division wanting Parise in their lineup that would be the draw, and not much else. Colorado is leading the league in goal scoring and recently won the cup with players who are still in their prime. If one of their goalies gets hot, it's not hard to imagine them getting back to the finals. It's also a nice place to live.

    I don't think this signing really has much, if anything, to do with the Wild.

     

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    23 minutes ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

    I have far more contempt for Dallas, Winnipeg, St. Louis, or Chicago.

    Colorado has been a decent rival, but I don't know why fans would hate them more than other teams in the division. The Wild haven't faced Colorado in the playoffs since 2014, and they beat them that year, and there's also great memories of beating them in 2003 on their way to the conference finals.

    Seems like it would primarily be a team in 1st place in their division wanting Parise in their lineup that would be the draw, and not much else. Colorado is leading the league in goal scoring and recently won the cup with players who are still in their prime. If one of their goalies gets hot, it's not hard to imagine them getting back to the finals. It's also a nice place to live.

    I don't think this signing really has much, if anything, to do with the Wild.

     

    Same.

    For as good as Colorado has been, we've seemed to have decent success against them.  Any time we've gotten into the playoffs, I've always thought it would've gone better if we were playing the Avs rather than Dallas, Saint Louis, or Chicago when they were good.

    I'm not saying that the Avs aren't frequently a better team, but we just seem to handle them better for the most part.  The games usually feel winnable for most (or all of) the game.

    On the other hand, Dallas, Saint Louis, and Winnipeg just feel like different games.  Chicago still to a point, just not as much since the team was blown up.  After that, they've seemed less a team we need to prove ourselves against.  Colorado should probably feel that way, but it just never has since we usually can hang pretty well with them and because of that they don't really feel like rivals.

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    I'm sure Parise would love nothing better than to slam dunk the Wild in a playoff series. I will also bet he is disappointed if the Wild do not make it and take the chance away from him.  However, we have three games left with Colorado one in March and two into April. Perhaps if the Wild are scratching and clawing their way back into the last Wild card spot Parise could extract some satisfaction from having a hand in seeing they don't see the playoffs. 

    As Tony mentioned in the article players take into consideration a lot of different factors when deciding what teams they want to play for. Given the current state of this team and Guerin's awkward lack of people skills I guess is one way to put it how many of the elite players will want to come here via trade? Players are enjoying a lot more control of where they are willing to go and play. Just handing them a fist full of money isn't always enough anymore. I wonder if Johnny Hockey regrets his choice?

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    RE: Parise - I'd like to see him get a cup, I wouldn't be cheering for Colorado as their fans are the worst people, but as a person Parise did a lot for this org, and as a fan I want to see good things happen to him.

    Parise played with emotion, looked engaged, took a ton of abuse in front of the net.  I remember it didn't start clicking for Fiala until he was moved to Parise's line, but the look on Parise's face when Fiala scored looked like he was more excited than Fifi was.

    I think his time here was ended because he was not going to accept not playing on the top line and PP1, and the 15/16 minutes per game that NYI's offered him.  When he refused the line change in an attempt to get Foligno the ENG hat trick, it was clear he had contempt for the coaching staff.

    I think Parise is also emotional, and heading out to Long Island to follow his Dad had to be a factor in his decision.

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    At age 34, the North Stars felt that Parisé was aging, and dealt him to the New York Islanders midway through the 1975 season for Doug Rombough and Ernie Hicke. He then went on to be one of the key players to not only lead the Islanders to their first playoff berth that season but all the way to the Stanley Cup semifinals, where the Islanders lost in a hard-fought seven game series to the eventual Cup champion Philadelphia Flyers. Parisé had 16 points in 17 playoff games that year, second to former North Stars teammate Drouin, who had been acquired in a separate deal with Minnesota that season. Parisé played two and a half more seasons on Long Island, adding over 20 goals each of his full seasons and providing excellent defensive play.

    RE: Suter - Lol, great signing Dallas, have fun with him through next season.  He might have been smiling that he could cross check Kappy and knock off the wild, but he singlehandedly ended your cup run.

    You're paying $3.65M to a 40 year old defenseman who was most searched in CapFriendly's buyout calculator last season.  If the pinnacle is knocking the Wild out of the playoffs (lets get real...not a difficult task) rather than winning the cup you made a great signing.

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    Every time the wild see Suter he puts the face of the franchise on IR . Moose, maroon, Middleton and Dewey do nothing about it. Seems to me he’s had upper hand . He’s better than everyone on our d other than Brodin and Faber. I’d take him over spurg any day. Farmer strong versus undersized. 
       The wild ran them out of town because they were bad for the locker room and culture they say. However this year has proven they ran the wrong guys out of town because nothings changed . Still entitled and complacent with mediocrity. we ran them out of town to bring in Freddy , mermis , letteri , luccini. We went from a roster of pro nhl players  to an ahl minor league team.  Meanwhile the so called cancer of Zach and Ryan haven’t ruined Dallas or NYI s locker room . The buyouts probably needed to happen for the retirement penalties. However s__t talking Zach and Ryan seems dumb when we’re at the bottom of standings and can’t play hockey.  Good for them to get out of the pathetic Minnesota sports scene and get a chance to win cup. 

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    You say that as if having $15m tied up to Parise and Suter would be all that much different, performance wise.  2 middling players making a shit ton vs. 4-5 doing so.  I'll take Kaprizov and Boldy making money over not having anything right now.

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    Someone needs to give Suter the whomp'n of a lifetime. Not talking about a fight cause he'd probably turtle. I'm talking about a body check, flying-elbow, or boarding that sends a strong message. I don't care who does it but the same should have happened to Morrisey, Frederic, and anyone else who deserves it. 

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