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  • Marco Rossi Showing He's A Big-Game Player At Worlds


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    Tony Abbott

    It's Marco Rossi against the World.

    While not as well-attended as the Olympics, there is a solid amount of NHL talent at the IIHF World Championships. We all know about the number of Minnesota Wild players alone populating Teams USA and Sweden. Then you look at Team Canada, which boasts two 40-goal scorers in John Tavares and Jared McCann, and even Connor Bedard.

    Then there's Marco Rossi's Team Austria. It's not just that Rossi is the best player on Austria's roster. For all intents and purposes, he's the only one. Austria is churning out more high-level talent than ever. Rossi was the first drafted Austrian in 14 years in 2020 when he went ninth overall. Since then, Marco Kasper (No. 8 in 2022) and David Reinbacher (No. 5 in 2023) have joined him as top-10 picks. But neither player is competing at Worlds.

    However, Rossi and a collection of Austrian and Swiss league veterans are enough for Austria to make some noise. They're having their most impressive World Championship run in at least 20 years, or perhaps ever. Back in the 2004 Worlds, an 18-year-old Thomas Vanek led Austria to a 1-3-2 record. Vanek's Team Austria notched a win against France and drew against Canada and Switzerland. Not too shabby.

    Rossi's 2024 version of Team Austria is only 2-3-1, but the high points were historic for his country. Between 2005 and 2023, Austria went just 8-40-6 in World Championship play. Three of their wins came against B-tier European powerhouses like Czechia, Switzerland, and Slovakia, with the rest coming against Belarus, Germany, Great Britain, Hungary, and Latvia. Their high point might have been taking Team USA to overtime in 2022.

    It started in the third period against Bedard and Team Canada, the New York Yankees of the international hockey world. Down 6-1 after the second period, Austria fought back with a flurry of five goals in the third period. Rossi was on the ice for each of Austria's final four goals, with none being bigger than his tying goal with 49 seconds remaining. 

    Rossi's goal displayed several traits that made him successful with the Wild this season. There's the crafty defense, as he starts his play by snatching the puck from the Montreal Canadiens' Kaiden Guhle. Rossi showed off his nose for the net, not only getting the takeaway but finding it in a position to create a high-danger chance. Then there's the finishing that led to his 21-goal rookie year, roofing a backhander past Jordan Binnington.

    The game was historic in many ways. For example, it was the first time Austria had scored even three goals against Canada at the top level of World Championship competition. Had Austria completed the comeback (Tavares scored 15 seconds into overtime without Rossi touching the ice), it would have been the largest comeback in World Championship history. 

    Rossi put his team on his back on his biggest stage yet, furthering his coming-out party with the Minnesota Wild this season. It won't come as any surprise to those who followed his comeback from myocarditis to the NHL or his summer of skipping family weddings to train to make the NHL last year, but you'd better believe that he cares. "In 50 years, I will still look back to this moment," he said to The Athletic's Chris Johnston. "I won't forget this one.

    Austria had more up their sleeve, following their effort against Canada with a 3-2 win against Team Finland. It was the country's first win against Finland in 11 tries at the World Championship level. "That we can beat [Finland] at the World Championship is the best thing that has happened in Austrian Hockey in a long time," said Austrian forward Benjamin Baumgartner. Rossi registered zero points but held Finland scoreless through a game-high 23 minutes and 40 seconds.

    That's been Rossi's role for Austria: a heavy workload with shutdown minutes. Rossi is playing 18:59 per night, which is higher than any of his teammates, including Austria's defensemen. He ranks eighth among forwards in the World Championships, with most of those ahead of him being from similarly small countries.

    Throwing Rossi against the best the world has to offer (at least, among non-NHL playoff teams) has produced results for Austria that go beyond Rossi's goal and two assists in five games. Through the World Championships, Austria is outscoring their opposition 9-2 with Rossi on the ice. The rest of the team? They've been outscored by a margin of 11-21. At 5-on-5, Rossi's given Austria a clean sheet (five goals for, zero against), with the rest of the team falling behind 8-13.

    Again, we're seeing a continuation of Rossi's regular-season success on a big stage. Rossi finished the season tied for sixth on the team with a +5 goal differential at 5-on-5 (44 goals for, 39 against). Without Rossi on the ice, Minnesota was out-gunned 114-124 at 5-on-5, a -10 differential. It's good news that there's no drop-off in these World Championship games, which mean so much to Austria.

    We don't have much in the way of a sample size for big games in Rossi's career. His only playoff experience since his days in the OHL (where he scored 6 goals and 22 points as a 16-year-old in the Memorial Cup playoffs) came in 2022-23. For the Iowa Wild, not Minnesota. Still, he produced a goal and an assist in two games against the Rockford IceHogs. 

    Other than that, we have just 12 games of World Championship play dating back to last summer to gauge Rossi's big game experience. So far, all indications are that he has stepped up in these moments. Rossi has two goals and 12 points over the past two years, and his impact on scoring has been positive in both tournaments. In those 12 games, Austria outscores opponents 16-7 (8-3 at 5-on-5) on a team that is otherwise outscored by a whopping 14-43 margin (10-31 at 5-on-5). 

    Unfortunately, you can't discuss this without mentioning the trade rumors that continue to surround Rossi this summer. Despite a Calder-caliber rookie year, the Wild allegedly believe Rossi is too small to fit their plans and are open to trading him to add size closer to June's NHL Draft

    Is the front office watching these games? If so, they should be taking notes on what Rossi's doing to will Austria to relevance in a big tournament. Let's face it: The Wild are the Team Austria of the Stanley Cup Playoffs. Since Minnesota entered the NHL in 2000--01, the team is 34-62, a .354 winning percentage. Only the Winnipeg Jets (.340) have been worse. When you're looking up at the Columbus Blue Jackets, that's about as embarrassing as things get.

    One big reason is that Minnesota has historically lacked players who can elevate their game in the postseason. Not-that-fun fact: 19 games of Kirill Kaprizov is enough to land him fourth all-time in postseason goals during franchise history. When healthy, we've seen Kaprizov and Joel Eriksson Ek emerge as difference-making-type players. But no team gets deep in the playoffs by stopping at two. More must emerge, and we're seeing promising signs from Rossi on the international stage.

    Rossi's not the only Wild player performing well at Worlds. Matt Boldy has five goals and 12 points in six games for Team USA. Eriksson Ek has three goals and four points for Team Sweden. Heck, Marcus Johansson somehow has five goals and nine points for Sweden -- as many points as he had in his final 38 regular-season games this year. 

    With all due respect to them, though, there's a big difference between being a (very good) cog in the machines of Teams USA and Sweden and being the sole NHL player on a team that regularly fights not to be relegated. What Rossi's doing for Austria takes a ton of skill and heart to pull off, and it's the kind of big-game mentality that the Wild can't afford to cast aside. 

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    1 hour ago, OldDutchChip said:

    hockey is a team game right? and ottawa has not been relevant since heater was on that team. i can care less about the record or his plus/minus. i bet his brother in calgary didn't have an eye popping stats as he does now in florida with  a better cast of players....and i bet the same on eichel. and yes i would bet on brady over boldy. 

    Matthew was incredible in Calgary, what are you talking about?

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    18 minutes ago, Tony Abbott said:

    Matthew was incredible in Calgary, what are you talking about?

    i am talking about how he became an MVP candidate once he joined a new team. 

    he was under the radar (yes i said under the radar given that he still has not blossomed into tier 1 elite player yet - he did that in Florida), just like eichel was (who now is likely a tier 1 player), just like stone was and just like brady is now.  We have a chance to get a second borderline tier 1 player and all that stands in the way is Boldy? huh whats the problem here? even discarding the player to player comparison, you can't not see the impact that it will carry for team build up can you not???? kap has been abused by all central foes. do you think ANYONE will take cheap shots now when he skates with Brady? cause they sure were scared when Boldy was out there! sometimes its more than just stats and historical performances or bias or whatnot.  

     

     

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    1 hour ago, OldDutchChip said:

    You're delusional if you think one player in Tkachuk will change that while giving up all our developing prospects. I have seen nothing out of Tkachuk to signify he is worth that. He has zero won playoff series to his name on a team that was suppose to be ready to make a run the last three years.

    I think he might be mixing me up with you on this. Yes, I do believe one player in Tkachuk will be a difference maker for the franchise. His intensity level and ability to get everyone playing harder is very hard to ignore. He's got different kind of intangibles. 

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    3 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

    I think he might be mixing me up with you on this. Yes, I do believe one player in Tkachuk will be a difference maker for the franchise. His intensity level and ability to get everyone playing harder is very hard to ignore. He's got different kind of intangibles. 

    i won't disagree with that 🍻

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    2 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

    Did you see nothing from Matthew Tkachuk or Eichel?

    Funny that, Rossi (40) had almost as many points in his rookie season as Matt (43) and Brady (45) did. Eichel is about equivalent in points to Boldy. Boldy had the same amount of point as Eichel did in both their age 21 seasons. 10pts less in their age 22 seasons. Eichel has never put up over 90 pts and on average 60-70pts which is right where Boldy sits now. At age 22. Without all the injury worries. I am advocating for keeping these young guys and letting them develop instead of throwing them all away, plus futures and picks, for one player.

     

    2 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

    Yeah cause Yurov is amazing and Heidt is amazing. We are all amazing! Tyler Graovac is amazing. Beckman is amazing. Stramel is amazing. Zach Phillips is amazing. Sokolov is amazing. You right! Nothing can go wrong. Proceed as normal. 🤔 

    You must not pay attention. Yurov just broke the record for an age 22 season in the KHL, so yes, it is safe to say he will have high expectations coming in. Heidt is a bit more of a question mark but we won't get to see what they are if we trade them all away on a single player. Stramel isn't amazing and has shown nothing to indicate that. 

    P.S. That guy Boldy who you're advocating to trade also had more points in his age 21 and 22 season that Tkachuk did. 

    2 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

    Stop taking words out of context. I said Tkachuk and many other options too.

     

    Yes you did say other players that are equally expensive to acquire chasing some pie in the sky that will never happen unless we pay out the nose. My comment was meant to convey that one piece is not going to change our trajectory and it will be far more valuable to keep the players we have and let them develop instead of selling low on them. Let me be clear, selling Rossi or Boldy now is doing exactly that, selling low.  

     

    Your entire preface to this is we will lose Kap if we don't sell the farm for a "top 5 player" and I simply don't agree. It is using alarmism to sell a trade that is a clear loss and that isn't good business. 

    My point is one good player or another (we don't have the salary cap space for more) isn't going to turn this into a cup competitor. Those are primarily built through the draft. Our strong point is currently our top line. Why try to address something that isn't an issue. Furthermore, how does gutting our prospects and futures for one good player convince Kap to stay? It doesn't make the aging role player we have locked in on NMC's and NTC's play any better and we can't change them out yet. Our top line can score all it wants, if we have no supplementary scoring we won't go far.

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    1 hour ago, OldDutchChip said:

    i am talking about how he became an MVP candidate once he joined a new team. 

    he was under the radar (yes i said under the radar given that he still has not blossomed into tier 1 elite player yet - he did that in Florida), just like eichel was (who now is likely a tier 1 player), just like stone was and just like brady is now. 

    Matthew was an MVP candidate in Calgary. In 2021-22, he had 42 goals, 104 points, and finished Top-10 in WAR. I think Brady is a good player, but not even close to the Matthew/Eichel/Stone level. 

    1 hour ago, OldDutchChip said:

    We have a chance to get a second borderline tier 1 player and all that stands in the way is Boldy? huh whats the problem here? even discarding the player to player comparison, you can't not see the impact that it will carry for team build up can you not????

    I think Boldy is a better player both right now and when you adjust for age. I think Boldy is more talented than Tkachuk, and a more complete player. 

    1 hour ago, OldDutchChip said:

    do you think ANYONE will take cheap shots now when he skates with Brady? cause they sure were scared when Boldy was out there! sometimes its more than just stats and historical performances or bias or whatnot.  

    Dude, Morgan Freaking Rielly (three fights in his career) took cheap shots at the Ottawa Senators last year. I don't think anyone's afraid of Brady Tkachuk. 

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    30 minutes ago, TheGoosesAreLooses said:

    Funny that, Rossi (40) had almost as many points in his rookie season as Matt (43) and Brady (45) did. Eichel is about equivalent in points to Boldy. Boldy had the same amount of point as Eichel did in both their age 21 seasons. 10pts less in their age 22 seasons. Eichel has never put up over 90 pts and on average 60-70pts which is right where Boldy sits now. At age 22. Without all the injury worries. I am advocating for keeping these young guys and letting them develop instead of throwing them all away, plus futures and picks, for one player.

     

    You must not pay attention. Yurov just broke the record for an age 22 season in the KHL, so yes, it is safe to say he will have high expectations coming in. Heidt is a bit more of a question mark but we won't get to see what they are if we trade them all away on a single player. Stramel isn't amazing and has shown nothing to indicate that. 

    P.S. That guy Boldy who you're advocating to trade also had more points in his age 21 and 22 season that Tkachuk did. 

     

    Yes you did say other players that are equally expensive to acquire chasing some pie in the sky that will never happen unless we pay out the nose. My comment was meant to convey that one piece is not going to change our trajectory and it will be far more valuable to keep the players we have and let them develop instead of selling low on them. Let me be clear, selling Rossi or Boldy now is doing exactly that, selling low.  

     

    Your entire preface to this is we will lose Kap if we don't sell the farm for a "top 5 player" and I simply don't agree. It is using alarmism to sell a trade that is a clear loss and that isn't good business. 

    My point is one good player or another (we don't have the salary cap space for more) isn't going to turn this into a cup competitor. Those are primarily built through the draft. Our strong point is currently our top line. Why try to address something that isn't an issue. Furthermore, how does gutting our prospects and futures for one good player convince Kap to stay? It doesn't make the aging role player we have locked in on NMC's and NTC's play any better and we can't change them out yet. Our top line can score all it wants, if we have no supplementary scoring we won't go far.

    Its about certainty. how confident are you with Rossi. what is his ceiling, strength, weaknesses, do you have surplus of similar assets that could be plugged in, and what is your vision for what's missing on player level and team level. my assessment is 

    (i) team now has an identity behind kaprizov, but is at very high risk of loosing him and derailing all the progress

    (ii) you need to understand that normal progression is just not going to work (it may of course but honestly,  my hunch is that status quo will lead to Kap saying - thank you, goodbye at the end) hence you need to show commitment - that involves placing leadership on to kap (C) and driving results Immediately

    this is all within the control of the team. you do that, then IF he does leave, you at least gave your self the best chance. for that you have to take what you accumulated and the assets that have not depreciated in value and act. it may be a sour feeling for those of us that are attached to these prospects, but it is what it is. imagine two teams ONE with Kap and no Rossi and team TWO with Kap and potentially Guentzel or Tkachuk or a proven tough scorer and leader (Rossi is none of that YET) 

    There is no selling the farm with any of my proposal. we have accumulated a top ranked prospect list last year with additional picks and prospects coming in now. We are not talking about trading 10 prospects plus all our future. So enough of that. Stop looking for what will be and start working for what IS. This uncertainty with Kap may be a blessing in disguise for the team but only IF we become more aggressive than we usually are and willing to parlay uncertainty and add risk for greater reward. Time will tell which way we go. 

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    1 hour ago, mnfaninnc said:

    Some may enjoy it, and that's their choice. I am not one of those people.

    I like it.  Bigger ice is kind of fun to watch.

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    12 minutes ago, Tony Abbott said:

    Matthew was an MVP candidate in Calgary. In 2021-22, he had 42 goals, 104 points, and finished Top-10 in WAR. I think Brady is a good player, but not even close to the Matthew/Eichel/Stone level. 

    I think Boldy is a better player both right now and when you adjust for age. I think Boldy is more talented than Tkachuk, and a more complete player. 

    Dude, Morgan Freaking Rielly (three fights in his career) took cheap shots at the Ottawa Senators last year. I don't think anyone's afraid of Brady Tkachuk. 

    Matthew was not viewed by many as he is viewed now, that's just a fact - recall many felt the deal for Huberdeau wasn't too bad for calgary. point for point they were close (Huberdeau actually edges out Tkachuk here) but the intangibles can be lost when comparing solely stats. This is what i am calling out with Tkachuk. He is closer to his brother at least to my eye test, with somewhat similar stats that are showing improvements over the last two years. And he is feared and a brute. Boldy can score 30 goals, he can score 40 next year, but he won't prevent the opposite team from doing what they have done to Kap now for 4-5 years. And i guarantee that matters to Kap. You think no one is scared of Brady - that is funny and un true. 

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    All I've had to hear over the last decade is how some Big Chungus is going to stop teams from taking liberties with the Wild. Zenon Konopka, Mike Rupp, Matt Hendricks, Kurtis Gabriel, Nic Deslauriers, Ryan Reaves, Pat Maroon. The next time it works will be the first time.

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    This obsession with Brady Tkachuk? Is Ottowa even trying to move him? Last thing I read is if he goes anywhere it would most likely be New Jersey. His wife is from there and he owns property there. The Devils GM is a cousin to the Tkachuk's. All this bantering and vapors over something that is never going to happen. 

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    That's cause the Wild have never been a truly tough team. Always entitled and mentally weak. That's why one cement-head type guy doesn't do squat. The Wild build teams around guys like Zucker, Granlund, Brodin, Spurgeon, and a bunch of skill guys. The attitudes towards a Tkachuk is the reaction. The consensus is the Wild are small and wimpy getting bullied lacking toughness which we've seen plenty of evidence of. Sure there's skilled core guys and one Erriksson Ek currently in that group to be proud of but the decades of shortfalls with PMB type players is why people no longer believe finesse guys and Euros are gonna get the Wild over the hump no matter how great their regular seasons or World championship tourney is.

     

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    3 minutes ago, MacGyver said:

    This obsession with Brady Tkachuk? Is Ottowa even trying to move him? Last thing I read is if he goes anywhere it would most likely be New Jersey. His wife is from there and he owns property there. The Devils GM is a cousin to the Tkachuk's. All this bantering and vapors over something that is never going to happen. 

    You are most likely correct. Some fans wanted Laine when he was new in WPG and that woulda been terrible for the Wild. Brady Tkachuk is just the idea of a player MN has only had a little sniff of with an again Owen Nolan or a leader like Rolston who could score a big goal when the team needed one. 

    The Wild have issues and it's not Ek or Kaprizov or Faber. Boldy and Rossi are good players. Boldy has proven more but the overall issue is the group and it's dynamic most. They aren't bad, but certainly aren't in the league's top 10.

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    1 hour ago, Tony Abbott said:

    All I've had to hear over the last decade is how some Big Chungus is going to stop teams from taking liberties with the Wild. Zenon Konopka, Mike Rupp, Matt Hendricks, Kurtis Gabriel, Nic Deslauriers, Ryan Reaves, Pat Maroon. The next time it works will be the first time.

    None of these guys also had the hands of Tkachuk. It's in their blood, his father had it, his brother has it, and so does Brady. These are different intangibles than your list above. His passion and hate to lose is unrivaled, and it's very unsettling for Brady, possibly to the point where he asks his GM for out. 

    Guerin's got him on his roster now, I think it would be a good time to find out what he's thinking.

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    49 minutes ago, MacGyver said:

    This obsession with Brady Tkachuk? Is Ottowa even trying to move him? Last thing I read is if he goes anywhere it would most likely be New Jersey. His wife is from there and he owns property there. The Devils GM is a cousin to the Tkachuk's. All this bantering and vapors over something that is never going to happen. 

    And Brady is from the St. Louis area. If I were Ottawa, I sure would send him west. I wouldn't want to face him more than twice a year.

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    42 minutes ago, Protec said:

    Some fans wanted Laine when he was new in WPG and that woulda been terrible for the Wild.

    I was and still am one of those guys. I'm not sure what's going on inside his head, but I'm pretty sure that Mikko Koivu can fix him. Plus, if all he does is stand in Ovechkin's office, we're a better team.

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    My point is that the Wild needed scoring then and the idea of a 30-40 goal guy becomes an obsession. Now the Wild look weak and timid so a big womprat type player seems like the answer but it's never that simple. 

    MN needs guys to meet the expectations of their contracts. They need prospects to live up to the hype. Goalies need to stop the puck when it matters most and the GM has to make smart deals. On top of that, the Wild need a coach that can win in the playoffs. Sheldon Keefe is headed to NJ so we'll see how that works out. Somehow DeBoer and Maurice are in the conference finals again. The other teams have the best duo in the game or the top defender with center depth. The same themes always arise at this stage.  

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    4 hours ago, Tony Abbott said:

    All I've had to hear over the last decade is how some Big Chungus is going to stop teams from taking liberties with the Wild. Zenon Konopka, Mike Rupp, Matt Hendricks, Kurtis Gabriel, Nic Deslauriers, Ryan Reaves, Pat Maroon. The next time it works will be the first time.

    aha!!!! so you expecting tkachuk to play 4th line as all your other buffons did? cool understood. yeah let's go with Rossi centering Kap and boldy. HAHA done you have your opinion i have mine.

     

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    On 5/23/2024 at 3:56 PM, MacGyver said:

    This obsession with Brady Tkachuk? Is Ottowa even trying to move him? Last thing I read is if he goes anywhere it would most likely be New Jersey. His wife is from there and he owns property there. The Devils GM is a cousin to the Tkachuk's. All this bantering and vapors over something that is never going to happen. 

    Exactly. There was never any serious talk about it, it was a rumor that went away quickly but people on here can’t seem to let it go. It just doesn’t make sense to me why they keep talking about it. Why would he want to come to Mn? In 3 years, I think Ottawa is going to be crazy good. They are one of the youngest nhl teams.

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