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    Phillip Garrett

    The Minnesota Wild are rolling. 

    They have been keeping games close and often coming out with a win. Much of the Wild’s success has been due to their key pieces staying healthy. However, all good things must end. 

    Entering the 10th week of the season, the Wild are missing Mats Zuccarello, Jonas Brodin, Joel Eriksson Ek, and Jakub Lauko due to injury. Lauko is the only one slated to return soon. The Wild expect him to return before their first visit to Salt Lake City. With the recent influx of injuries, Hynes has had to juggle some lines. A few players have had to step up in their absence. 

    We all know what happened to Zuccarello. However, the only positive development is that Matt Boldy has shone in his absence. 

    The Wild will miss Brodin, but the Wild have performed well defensively. Minnesota’s other blueliners, including Jon Merrill, have stepped up. 

    However, the hole Eriksson Ek left in his absence is concerning. The Wild have kept games close. With a defensive mindset first and a below-average powerplay, Minnesota scored at a mediocre rate. Entering the season’s second quarter, the Wild are 13th in the league in GF with 86 and GF/GP at 3.19.

    Enter Marco Rossi. After the Wild put Eriksson Ek on IR, Rossi has gotten a chance to prove again that he’s not a bust. On December 6, during their first game in a California doubleheader, Rossi got to try out playing between Kirill Kaprizov and Matt Boldy.

    He made the most of his opportunity. Rossi came home with two goals and three points, two of which came at even strength. Put anyone between players like Kaprizov and Boldy, and they will thrive. Still, Ek had just suffered a lower-body injury, and Rossi was still putting up points. 

    Rossi has scored six points in his last five games, and only two were on the powerplay. Furthermore, his numbers have been good all season. Rossi has scored nine goals and 23 points in 25 games. He is on pace to finish the season with 78 points. I doubt he will get to those numbers, but his best chance would be between Kaprizov and Boldy or Zuccarello. 

    But what about when Eriksson Ek returns? Should he rejoin the first line and bump Rossi down the lineup? In my opinion, no. Despite the issues that Ek has been experiencing with injuries, the center has been underperforming in areas where he previously thrived. 

    For example, Eriksson Ek is typically productive on the powerplay. In the last three seasons, Ek has found the back of the net 12 times with the man advantage, averaging 20 powerplay points alongside his goals. Conversely, Eriksson Ek has one powerplay goal and only two powerplay points this season. Considering the Wild are ranked 19th in PP% at 19.4%, we could use the old Ek. 

    Ek hasn’t looked much better at five-on-five, having only scored five goals and 13 points this season. Even with Rossi and Ek in the lineup, Rossi has been the most impressive player. Rossi seems like the more skilled forward, so he fits well between Boldy and Kaprizov. While Ek has succeeded on the first line, his best seasons have come with the team's more checking-focused lines. 

    Eriksson Ek plays physical hockey and looks for his scoring down and around the net. Given his size, you’d think he’d find scoring opportunities from the talented forwards throwing the puck on the net. Still, with Kaprizov’s elevated gameplay, the first line has been playing east-west, not north-south. For Eriksson Ek to continue his career success, he must be on a line that focuses on getting the puck to the net and staying there. He hasn’t found that this year. 

    On the other hand, Rossi has kept up with Kaprizov and Boldy and scored alongside them. Rossi’s contract is a fifth of the size of Ek’s. However, I expect that to change at the end of the year if the Wild stick with Rossi. Still, some people think that the Wild will trade Rossi, and how Minnesota has treated the young center supports this theory.

    Although he has built on his 40-point season from last year, Rossi must continue to prove himself over the already established center core. Eriksson Ek is a talented player who likely isn’t playing to his standard this season. Therefore, Rossi likely has limited time to make his case as the best center in Minnesota. 

    The Wild have been looking for a No. 1 center to fit on their highly talented first line, and fans have been begging for real center depth for years. Minnesota has found that depth. Let's hope Hynes makes the right decision and keeps betting on No. 23 because he has solidified the Wild up the middle this season and can for years to come. 

    If they begin to trust the young center, they can lock him in for a long time after this season. With Rossi’s slowly developing career, his contract could likely be team-friendly. 

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    51 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    Christmas magic?

     This is best case scenario shit right here

    mnfaninnc has said numerous times that Ohgren has consistently been a slow starter.  Maybe he gets a little out of his groove in the off-season and now he's found it?  I don't know, but I do believe that this is more the real Ohgren than what we've seen in the NHL so far.

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    2 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

    I'm not so sure here. Buffalo currently stands 7th in the Atlantic division, 1 pt. out of last. They've already switched coaches this past offseason, and the start to their year has to be extremely disappointing. While Tuch has a year left on his deal, this team may need a pretty significant shakeup. Are they willing to tear it down again?

    I'm thinking patience is wearing thin in Buffalo, yet their owner is probably more concerned with the Bills at this time, letting the Sabres fly under the radar. On paper, this team looks like it should be way better than it is. What is wrong? Well, it wasn't Skinner, he's in Edmonton now.

    The other thing that Buffalo has is a lot of players marinating in development. I'm not sure what it would take, but I'm pretty sure that Yurov, The Wall, and Buium are on the untouchables list. So, that leaves us with Heidt and possibly Lambos. Just looking at their roster, I'm guessing they may want some structured defenders over forwards. They've got plenty of cap space and plenty of young forwards to make the jump. They've also got plenty of the puck moving defenders and need some guys who can defend. I would wonder what a Brodin could do for that lineup, and if I even want to entertain the possibility of a Brodin trade? 

    What really should have them in a foul mood is losing a 4-0 lead to Colorado. They had that game in the bag, but their defense (team defense) couldn't handle it. One would have to think that the playoff drought in Buffalo is wearing on the fanbase, and they need to get there pretty quick. 7th in the Atlantic isn't getting it done. I wonder if they would have any interest in a Declan Chisholm? 

    To our disadvantage, we don't have much cap space to work with, meaning retention. Guerin has made a decent deal with the GM before in the Greenway deal. I think there is a deal here to be made, but, it may cost us dearly in futures. Would we need a 2026 1st? Would adding Jirzy and Tuch put us in a place where we're pretty set for the time being? Is it worth that type of gamble? 

    This much I can say, gaining Tuch and Jirzy helps out Kaprizov immediately. If Guerin is eyeing that front, a 2026 1st isn't too much compensation.

    I wouldn’t part ways with Brodin. I feel that he is our best D man period. Spurge, then Midds/Faber. 

    I think Sabres may look to offense more. They already have powers, byram and dahlin….seems like a good group? 

    I’m not sure they’ll bite on our junk. We need do more than lambos or H&H boys. Hence my thought that Tuch would cost Yurov - and that is likely a No from me.

    I also feel that Billy has no options left, he must use his best piece and that is Rossi. He won’t commit to him - and Rossi will cost at least 7.5 if not more or he’ll get even more via offer sheet? You are not signing him for 3 x 4…that ship has sailed

    You keep him on line 1 with Kap, then dangle him and others for tkachuk, marner, ranty with some $ retention and other pieces involved. 

    Tuch, I am a bit more cautious - as his play against Wild was very very underwhelming but maybe it’s Sabre funk.

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    2 hours ago, Tony Abbott said:

    This is something people keep saying but it isn't true. Seven of the ten tallest/heaviest teams in the NHL are in the Eastern Conference. 

    Dallas - Suter

    Winnipeg - Stanley

    LA - Daughty

    its the mean / nasty not necessary the size 

     

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    8 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    Dallas - Suter

    Winnipeg - Stanley

    LA - Daughty

    its the mean / nasty not necessary the size 

     

    Wild had Suter for a decade and what did it get them? (also, check Suter's current team)

    Stanley has played in four of the Peg's last 10 playoff games. They were eliminated in five in both series.

    LA has to get past Edmonton before Minnesota ever has to worry about Doughty, and if I recall correctly, Kaprizov tends to dunk all over him.

    Keep moving the goalposts tho

     

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    14 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

     

    its the mean / nasty not necessary the size 

     

    Size by itself is easy to beat.  Speed by itself is easy to crush.  It's the balance between size and speed that truly kills.  Add a little nasty and you have the trifecta.

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    8 minutes ago, Tony Abbott said:

    Wild had Suter for a decade and what did it get them? (also, check Suter's current team)

    Stanley has played in four of the Peg's last 10 playoff games. They were eliminated in five in both series.

    LA has to get past Edmonton before Minnesota ever has to worry about Doughty, and if I recall correctly, Kaprizov tends to dunk all over him.

    Keep moving the goalposts tho

     

    I’m not saying Suter was helping the team win 

    I’m showing the goons from other teams that beat down and injured Kaprizov

    suter left but there are others - it was an example of what awaits

    but I’m sure Rossi will deter that

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    3 minutes ago, Will D. Ness said:

    Size by itself is easy to beat.  Speed by itself is easy to crush.  It's the balance between size and speed that truly kills.  Add a little nasty and you have the trifecta.

    Unfortunately suter did plenty harm to Kap without speed and skill, Daughty does it without size and there are others - that’s hockey. Playoffs mean our Russian superstar will be open for business. Dallas or Winnipeg or any other team will go after him from the start. 

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    MN has a winning percentage right now that says they'd win seven game series. Their goaltending is the best. Could they add a guy and get healthy, sure. They're pretty good though. Not really worried about LA five months early.

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    1 hour ago, OldDutchChip said:

    Rossi will cost at least 7.5 if not more or he’ll get even more via offer sheet? You are not signing him for 3 x 4…that ship has sailed

    This is going to be fun to watch   I’m going to agree with odc here.  Rossi’s good play is going to force Guerin’s hand.  Go into offseason and risk an offer sheet or trade Rossi highest bidder at TDL.  Agree that a) Rossi won’t sign a team friendly deal.  It’s a two way street bro.  Can’t blame him. 2) Rossi’s good play has increased his market value and he knows it. 3) bridge deal ship has sunk


    keep him with 97    Pump and dump at TDL 

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    20 hours ago, mnhockeyfan03 said:

    As the year goes on teams outside the playoffs will trade top6 guys.  Tuch, B Tchuck, B Nelson, Marchenko would be targets.  Only Tuch, Brady, Marchenko will cost Rossi plus a prospect but Nelson could be had for a prospect or pick.  Then Rossi could be used for something else if someone is will to take spurgeon not on his list.  Then we can go wild and really make a push.  

    Ottawa isn’t trading Tkachuk.. I don’t get why people are even entertaining this. He isn’t going anywhere.

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    18 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    This is going to be fun to watch   I’m going to agree with odc here.  Rossi’s good play is going to force Guerin’s hand.  Go into offseason and risk an offer sheet or trade Rossi highest bidder at TDL.  Agree that a) Rossi won’t sign a team friendly deal.  It’s a two way street bro.  Can’t blame him. 2) Rossi’s good play has increased his market value and he knows it. 3) bridge deal ship has sunk


    keep him with 97    Pump and dump at TDL 

    You really have no idea if he will or won’t sign a team friendly deal. I could easily see him signing something for 6.5 mil and the cap is suppose to go up. I also don’t see anyone offer sheeting him. If that was the case and so many teams were interested, he’d be traded already.

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    1 hour ago, OldDutchChip said:

    You keep him on line 1 with Kap, then dangle him and others for tkachuk, marner, ranty with some $ retention and other pieces involved. 

    You’re just making stuff up as you go along. You really think you’re going to somehow acquire any of those players from those teams? You think they’re just going to to be ok with trading their best players?

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    50 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    This is going to be fun to watch   I’m going to agree with odc here.  Rossi’s good play is going to force Guerin’s hand.  Go into offseason and risk an offer sheet or trade Rossi highest bidder at TDL.  Agree that a) Rossi won’t sign a team friendly deal.  It’s a two way street bro.  Can’t blame him. 2) Rossi’s good play has increased his market value and he knows it. 3) bridge deal ship has sunk


    keep him with 97    Pump and dump at TDL 

    Exactly! 

    Emotions aside - Rossi is out - he is out of our price range And he is going to be very attractive piece

    not for Brock Nelson but for bigger fish that will be available 

    look at standing in the east - Billy is planning something

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    1 hour ago, OldDutchChip said:

    Unfortunately suter did plenty harm to Kap without speed and skill, Daughty does it without size and there are others - that’s hockey. Playoffs mean our Russian superstar will be open for business. Dallas or Winnipeg or any other team will go after him from the start. 

    Damn dude, ease up on the fatalism.  KK97 isn't a victim.

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    40 minutes ago, Mateo3xm said:

    Ottawa isn’t trading Tkachuk.. I don’t get why people are even entertaining this. He isn’t going anywhere.

    Because you say so?

    I think they’ll do what makes sense for team stuck at the bottom of conference 

     

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    32 minutes ago, Mateo3xm said:

    You’re just making stuff up as you go along. You really think you’re going to somehow acquire any of those players from those teams? You think they’re just going to to be ok with trading their best players?

    I bet that’s what Vegas and Panthers said?

    And then walked away….

    or did they?

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    1 hour ago, Protec said:

    MN has a winning percentage right now that says they'd win seven game series. Their goaltending is the best. Could they add a guy and get healthy, sure. They're pretty good though. Not really worried about LA five months early.

    Didn’t we just loose to LA? Why the confidence so high we win in 5!!!! Edit - I misread thinking you said LA loose in 5! 🤪 sorry!

    diva boldy? 
    Dumb foligno?

    majestic Freddy?

    tiny Rossi?

    Even tinier Zuccy and his single ball of fire?

    Trenin? Harty?

    no of course not - Kap will drag us to victory!

    It can happen - he is that great - but very selfish to roll with such a supporting cast 

    Kap is likely to not survive first round series

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    Yes, because Kap has been injured in the playoffs.  Ek was.  Besides, Dumba took out Pavelski.  People get injured or stay healthy for all sorts of reasons.

    Hell, we saw a guy get nutted by friendly fire.  The NHL doesn't shy from being a rough sport, and Kap is not, nor will ever ask to be coddled or protected.  He'll just play the hand and more often punk the other team out.

    If the team wins, they win.  I'll take Rossi over a lot of guys right now, given what few cards the Wild have to play.  I'm not hung up on this year.  I'd kinda like next year and 2026 and 2027 to ALSO be successful.  The Wild haven't earned the right to throw caution to the wind like Fletcher did every year.  That's the reason they are still in this mess.

     

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    1 hour ago, OldDutchChip said:

    Because you say so?

    Well, I think it's more because Ottawa's GM Staios said it and with conviction. According to those reporting on it, they believe Tkachuk will play out his contract in Ottawa. I think he has a designation too. 

    Now, what does Staios do if Tkachuk publicly asks out? Matthew did this in Calgary who also did not want to trade him. If Tkachuk says he won't resign with Ottawa, it seems like that is the time he will be available, but we're looking at about 2.5 seasons down the road. 

    I think Brady would be awesome here, I just don't think we can pry him loose...unless someone gets in his ear during the 4 nations tourney!!!!!!!

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    2 minutes ago, Citizen Strife said:

    Yes, because Kap has been injured in the playoffs.  Ek was.  Besides, Dumba took out Pavelski.  People get injured or stay healthy for all sorts of reasons.

    Hello, we saw a guy get nutted by friendly fire.  The NHL doesn't shy from being a rough sport, and Kap is not, nor will ever ask to be coddled or protected.  He'll just play the hand and more often punk the other team out.

    If the team wins, they win.  I'll take Rossi over a lot of guys right now, given what few cards the Wild have to play.  I'm not hung up on this year.  I'd kinda like next year and 2026 and 2027 to ALSO be successful.

     

    Cause things work as expected? And our window is going to be wide open? As it was promised the last 20 plus years

    You have a chance, go for it!

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    If you were a team offersheeting Rossi, what would you offer?

    $6.8xxm-$9.1xxm is a 1st, 2nd, & 3rd rounder. Who would offer something in that area? Is this the type of compensation that we'd like to get in return, or would we want something a little closer to ready?

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