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    Brock Nelson trade rumors are getting louder as the March 7 trade deadline approaches. The New York Islanders center grew up in Warroad and has 17 goals and 19 assists in 56 games this season. He broke into the league in 2013-14 and has 292 goals and 275 assists in 896 career games. Nelson is in the sixth year of his $36 million contract, which expires at the end of this season. 

    Bill Guerin got the rumor mill spinning when he picked Nelson for the 4 Nations Face-Off. Guerin said he picked the Minnesota native because “He can do everything. He can play center. He can play wing. He can win face-offs. He can kill penalties. He can play on your power play. He can play on the flank. He can play net front.” 

    Guerin showed faith in Nelson by choosing him as one of 13 forwards for the 4 Nations tournament and the need for a versatile player to go on a playoff run. The Wild have experienced a rash of injuries this season, and they need depth insurance for the playoffs.

    Nelson played all 4 games during the 4 Nations tournament but came away with zero points and was a -3 plus/minus. Although it was only 4 games, it’s possible Guerin is less excited about him after this performance. 

    Furthermore, Minnesota currently has 12 guys over 30 on its roster. For context, the Winnipeg Jets have 8, and the Boston Bruins have 6. Age isn’t necessarily a negative or a positive. An argument against having older players is that they’re unlikely to get better at this point in their career, so it makes more sense to invest in younger players. However, they’re also more likely to be consistent, confident, and productive in crucial situations. 

    Nelson is only 33 years old and currently producing, so they likely want him.

    Does Nelson want to return to Minnesota? Probably not. Nelson is halfway through his 12th straight season with the Islanders and has played there his entire career. After ESPN broadcaster John Buccigross commented on Nelson's potential trade to the Wild, Nelson called them “outside noise.”

    “That's nothing that I thought about or anything like that,” Nelson responded curtly. 

    He’s not exactly bleeding red and green. 

    Nelson also has a 16-team no-trade clause in his contract. While it’s unlikely Minnesota is on it, he doesn’t seem interested in leaving the Islanders. 

    While the Islanders are 6th in the Metropolitan division and 23rd overall, they had a 7-game winning streak that ended on February 2. They have a 23.8% chance of making the playoffs. Nelson is tied for 3rd on the Islanders in goals, meaning New York would reduce its playoff odds by trading him. However, the Islanders may consider moving him if they’re focused on the future. 

    Even if the Islanders don’t want him, cap space will still be an issue. Minnesota has $8,225,000 in cap space, but that’s only because they placed Kirill Kaprizov on LTIR. They could hold Kaprizov on LTIR until the playoffs to use the cap space. However, that would be against NHL rules, bad sportsmanship, and counterproductive because Kaprizov produces more than Nelson. 

    The Wild already traded their 2025 first-round pick for David Jiricek and their third- and fourth-round selections in 2026. So Minnesota could trade the 2025 second round or 2026 first or second round, but Nelson isn’t going to create depth long-term the way a top prospect would. Therefore, they would be giving up valuable picks for a short-term rental.

    The Wild could also move out other players to make room. However, it would take a lot of shuffling to move $6 million worth of salary. At that point, Minnesota would mess with team chemistry and trust by swapping out multiple players simultaneously. 

    However, Nelson would be a good addition if the Wild can land him. He looks really irritating to play against. 

    Nelson is 6-foot-4, 205 lbs., has great reach with his stick, and isn’t so bulky he has trouble moving through the other team. The Wild don’t have anyone who’s that tall. Other players have difficulty getting the puck from Nelson, allowing him to make clean passes consistently. He also exhibits patience with the puck and has a knack for picking off open ice passes and loose pucks with his long stick. 

    He has 2 shorthanded goals this year, including this one:

    Guerin might like Nelson on the penalty kill, but I don’t. Nelson is a strong penalty killer, so why am I not a fan? He’s too tall for the small area and doesn’t have quick reactions on the penalty kill.

    Nelson’s reach helps him grab pucks and intercept passes on the open ice, making him an offensive threat on penalty kills. However, his size hinders him in tight spaces, making the center less ideal defensively. 

    Nelson also has trouble getting into lanes and effectively blocking passes during penalty kills because he can’t move quickly enough. 

    To be fair, no one has Jason Robertson covered, which was the major mistake. Still, Nelson tried to cover Matt Duchene, who already had 2 Islanders on him. Therefore, Roope Hintz is completely uncovered, and Nelson cannot block the pass. 

    Maxim Tsyplakov could have stepped up on the pass, but Nelson doesn’t cover anyone on this play. During an earlier power play in this game against Dallas, Nelson was completely ineffective and didn’t block a single pass or shot. 

    Nelson’s general talent and ability to score on the penalty kill can cover for his slower reaction speed in the regular season. However, it’s not always smart to take risks to score shorthanded in playoff hockey, so Nelson might not be the best fit for the penalty kill in the postseason. 

    Still, the 12-year veteran can make the plays when the clock is ticking. He has 5 game-winning goals this year, including this recent OT goal against the Carolina Hurricanes. 

    Nelson hasn’t won a Cup, but he has playoff experience. The Islanders have lost in the first round the past 2 seasons. However, Nelson has 4 points in 5 games in the 2023-24 season and 5 points in 6 games the year before. He’s already shown he can compete when the pressure is on. 

    Playoff hockey is always more intense, and not all teams fare as well as they did in the regular season. The 2023 Bruins team broke records and won the President’s Trophy, only to choke in the first round. If Nelson joined the Wild, he would keep playing his game and bolster Minnesota’s chances of advancing in the playoffs for the first time since the 2014-15 season.

    The Wild are likely scouting Nelson because of what he could do in the playoffs, but the Islanders are unlikely to move him before the deadline. However, if he makes it to Minnesota, he’ll be an effective 2-way player and a postseason asset. 

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    Well. Nelson could be insurance for an injury to Ek which happens a lot now. 

    He could win draws which MN is dismal related to face-offs. 

    He can skate, play defense, and join the PP. Top line with #97 or driving L2 without NoJo would be great and give him Zuccy, Boldy, or Hartman who can score or make plays. 

    He might even take a team friendly deal to be in MN. 

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    Well there's some great shot opportunities that miss the net, I'm thinking maybe nelson might most likely hit more of those .  Better shot accuracy 

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    If they give up anything for this guy it would be a waste of assets.  Where exactly would you play him?  Top line?  Nope that has Rossi on it right now.  Putting Nelson between Kaprizov and Boldy would be not an advantage.  Second line?  Ek has that taken care of.  Third line?  I have a feeling he would be taken advantage of by the other teams top line continuously.  We already have one of those players in John Merrill.  Fourth Line?  Can he even get to a player to check?

    Just because he is from Minnesota doesn't mean the Wild owe him anything.  This fanbase needs to realize in order to win a Stanly Cup we need good players not just players from Minnesota. 

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    10 hours ago, Willy the poor boy said:

    Barn Burner!

    Does this move the needle for anyone?

     

    We have acquired forward Tyler Madden from the Los Angeles Kings in exchange for defenseman Joseph Cecconi.

    https://www.nhl.com/wild/news/minnesota-wild-acquires-forward-tyler-madden-from-los-angeles-kings-in-exchange-for-defenseman-joseph-cecconi-022625

    The link I went to said the Wild got Madden in "exchance"for Ceconni. I looked up what "exchance" meant and the definition read: Exchance - nobody cares. 

    So nope, doesn't move the needle for me.

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    Well written article, but now I'm less excited about getting Nelson, so thanks for that.😉 I've seen so much written about him coming here, I was really surprised to see his comments about it being "outside noise." Thanks for including that link.

    We definitely need someone that can win faceoffs more consistently. Nelson's FO% is a solid 52.9%. As a team, we're 28th in the league at 46.9% which so often seems to haunt us when we're shorthanded. Interesting side note: the best faceoff % in the NHL this year (minimum 200 faceoffs) is former Wild, Nico Sturm, at 63.3%!

    Sturm is in the final year of his deal, makes only $2mil/yr., plays on the penalty kill, and is rumored to be on the block. Absent a big name that would get us all excited, is Sturm the kind of low-priced, low-cost addition that could make a difference in the playoffs?

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    Cozens was a name floated by Russo & Smith in their latest article along with Gourde, Laughton, Evans, and Nelson.

    Cozens is the most intriguing and best player on the list. Was one that I would never have thought of but he would be a good fit and is a young, bigger body down the middle. Obviously some cap gymnastics with his hit at $7.1m but most certainly Ek would have to go on LTIR. Which would suck terribly but if he's not 80%+ for the playoffs (if they make it) it's almost a detriment for him to play injured. 

    Apparently he's had the phones ringing on him so the Wild would have to put a good offer out there. Russo & Smith hinted at trouble of re-signing Rossi if they picked him up. Out of all of the wild (ha!) trade speculation this one is debatable and more realistic than Tkachuk's, Ranty or a few others.

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    14 hours ago, 1Brotherbill said:

    If they give up anything for this guy it would be a waste of assets.  Where exactly would you play him?  Top line?  Nope that has Rossi on it right now.  Putting Nelson between Kaprizov and Boldy would be not an advantage.  Second line?  Ek has that taken care of.  Third line?  I have a feeling he would be taken advantage of by the other teams top line continuously.  We already have one of those players in John Merrill.  Fourth Line?  Can he even get to a player to check?

    Just because he is from Minnesota doesn't mean the Wild owe him anything.  This fanbase needs to realize in order to win a Stanly Cup we need good players not just players from Minnesota. 

    If we trade for him, we'll have hit Brock bottom...

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    22 hours ago, Protec said:

    Well. Nelson could be insurance for an injury to Ek which happens a lot now. 

    He could win draws which MN is dismal related to face-offs. 

    He can skate, play defense, and join the PP. Top line with #97 or driving L2 without NoJo would be great and give him Zuccy, Boldy, or Hartman who can score or make plays. 

    He might even take a team friendly deal to be in MN. 

    There are legitimately compelling reason to sign B Nel to a 3 year deal, but I don't trust Guerin to sign him to less than 5 years with full NMC until B Nel is 38 years old.

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    6 hours ago, Secord Sucks said:

    is Sturm the kind of low-priced, low-cost addition that could make a difference in the playoffs?

    I'd rather we bring Zucker back before we bring back Sturm-o-rama

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    1 minute ago, M_Nels said:

    IIRC Strum's exit wasn't all that pleasant. 

    I could be wrong but my memory is that Sturm wanted more playing time and was not going to get it here so BG traded him to a team that would play him more.

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    9 minutes ago, Up North Guy said:

    I could be wrong but my memory is that Sturm wanted more playing time and was not going to get it here so BG traded him to a team that would play him more.

    Got scratched a few times too. Thought he made some comments once he got traded but could be wrong. Just seeing his name mentioned reminded me of Wild legend Tyson Jost.

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    20 hours ago, 1Brotherbill said:

    If they give up anything for this guy it would be a waste of assets.  Where exactly would you play him?  Top line?  Nope that has Rossi on it right now.  Putting Nelson between Kaprizov and Boldy would be not an advantage.  Second line?  Ek has that taken care of.  Third line?  I have a feeling he would be taken advantage of by the other teams top line continuously.  We already have one of those players in John Merrill.  Fourth Line?  Can he even get to a player to check?

    Have you watched Nelson play or read the article? The author clearly said that he can play anywhere on the ice. He can play center or wing on any line, and he is currently 2C and played a lot of 1C and hold his own against top lines.

    And I don't know if you've noticed, but the Wild are currently icing the equivalent of 2 2nd lines and 2 4th lines. Nelson would improve any line we have. 

    But, the wild should only trade for him if its cheap and hes willing to do a team friendly extension.

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    3 hours ago, Kato AK said:

    But, the wild should only trade for him if its cheap and hes willing to do a team friendly extension.

    If he is the Swiss army knife that you say he is why would you suggest that he should be gotten on the cheap or a team friendly deal.  Oh, I get it he isn't really as good as everyone makes him out to be.  He is just someone who had the luxury of being born and raised in Minnesota.

    There are much better and younger players out there.  We don't want Nelson on this team. 

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