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  • God Help Me, I Kinda Want The Stars To Win the Stanley Cup


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    Tony Abbott

    Very rarely do I take off my Wild Analyst Pince-Nez and put on my Wild Fan Sweatpants at Hockey Wilderness, but hey, it's the offseason. You gotta wear sweatpants sometimes, and today's that day.

    The NHL is down to its final four teams: The Carolina Hurricanes, Dallas Stars, Edmonton Oilers, and Florida Panthers. It's hard to tell where the allegiance of the State of Hockey generally is in this field, but it's not hard to narrow it down to three. No self-respecting Minnesota Wild fan is rooting for the Dallas South Stars. We don't need to rehash this -- they know what they did.

    As for me, though, one of the many things I lack is self-respect. And while I'm not super-proud of it, I'm not gonna be sad if I see the Dallas Stars lift the Cup this year.

    In fact, I kinda want them to.

    That brings up a crucial question: Why? And even I'm kinda interested to drill down to find the exact reason. 

    The easy answer is that Wild alumni Mikael Granlund and Matt Dumba would lift the Cup, and sure, that would absolutely be rad. Dumba might be hurt this postseason, but he's an All-Time Dude for me when it comes to Wild players, and getting to see him be a Stanley Cup Champion would kick ass. It'd be a satisfying reward after a decade-long career that was unfairly derailed just as he was making a star turn.

    Same for Granlund, who got a bad rap from being around a lot of failed Wild playoff runs. A lot of people came to believe he was the kind of player you can't win with. 14 games, four goals, and nine points later, it sure doesn't seem like the Stars are having any issues with that. Maybe the problem wasn't with him, after all. 

    But that doesn't explain it all. Because if you look at Carolina, they've got Brent Burns, who's like if a cartoon character was also a Hall of Fame defenseman. I'm not an NHL jersey/merch guy, but Burns is (along with Joe Thornton) the subject of one of the few shirts I own.

    Burns also has the "One of Us" thing going, having rocked in Minnesota, even if his full potential didn't get fully unleashed until he teamed up with Thornton, Joe Pavelski, and Patrick Marleau's power play. He's also great, and Carolina is a team that, even if they're not "fun" to "watch," they are at least good players to root for. 

    Still, I don't have much attachment to the Canes, even if I can respect the organization. And if it's not Carolina I'd pull for at this time, who is it?

    Florida's had theirs. Great run, but let's see something new. It's extremely funny to me that Canada hasn't won the Stanley Cup since the early '90s, and I want that streak preserved at all costs. Sorry, Connor McDavid

    So, that just leaves Dallas. Totally understand why it's a non-starter for Minnesota fans, especially those older than I am. But outside of a beef from a generation ago, I just can't harbor much ill will toward the Stars. 

    That's not the case for other teams in the Central Division, once I put my Fan Sweatpants on. I have friends in the Colorado Avalanche fanbase, and it gives me glee to twist the knife on them when things go wrong for their team.

    I fiercely hate the St. Louis Blues. If you think the "No. 1 Wild Fans" banner is embarrassing (and it is), it could be worse. Just remember: the Blues retired the number of a guy who played 18 games for them and effed off. It'd be like if the Wild retired Ryan O'Reilly's number. Loser energy, get outta here. 

    If St. Louis lost their team, I'd spike the football in their face for weeks. Maybe months. Maybe years.

    Try as I might, I can't summon those feels for Dallas, even after two playoff series in recent memory, which normally produces hard feelings. The worst anyone can say about the Stars is that they baited Marcus Foligno and Ryan Hartman into taking bad penalties and dived. But let's be honest: it's not like it was taking an unbelievable amount of effort to get Foligno and Hartman heated and losing their cool. They played the game within the game, and it worked.

    But mostly, I think it's just the fact that I really respect the teambuilding Jim Nill's done, and has for a decade-plus now. Dallas' GM raised his team's profile on the backs of two fifth-rounders (Jamie Benn and John Klingberg) and a bold trade for a former-top-10-pick, 60-point center in their early 20s (Tyler Seguin) whose team didn't want him for... reasons???

    He took a boring also-ran and made them one of the most fun teams in the NHL.

    Getting a Draft Lottery win in 2017 to move up to third overall to take Miro Heiskanen was a great break for them, of course, but Nill has made his own luck, too. Thomas Harley (18th overall in 2019) and Wyatt Johnston (23rd overall in 2021) are both bona fide star players. So are Roope Hintz and Jason Robertson, who make up the backbone of Dallas' forward group as Benn and Seguin have aged. They successfully drafted and developed their own goalie in "One of Us," Jake Oettinger

    Then, of course, they were opportunistic in doing a roundabout theft of Mikko Rantanen from a division rival. If you're not impressed by that, I'm not sure what will get you on board.

    Looking at all this, I think the heart of why I'm rooting for Dallas is because I look at them as something the Wild could be. Other than Heiskanen, the Stars didn't build their empire on top-three picks the way that Edmonton and Florida did. They drafted smart and developed from within, making smart deals to supplement their team (Rantanen, yes, but also Matt Duchene, Mason Marchment, Evgenii Dadonov, and Granlund) en route to becoming a juggernaut.

    That could be the Wild if they play their cards right. They already have Kirill Kaprizov and Matt Boldy on board. They have Marco Rossi in the fold (if they're smart), scoring 60 points for them at center. The fruits of Minnesota's drafting and talent acquisition are about to hit the NHL -- Zeev Buium, Danila Yurov, Liam Öhgren, Jesper Wallstedt, and David Jiricek, to just name the headliners. There's no reason this team can't soon look a lot like the Stars do right now. 

    And that's exactly what Fan Sweatpants Tony wants: a team bursting with talent that's ready to make a deep playoff run. If we have to see Dallas lift the Cup, don't fret too hard. The Wild might be poised to follow in their footsteps.

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    Man Tony, I agree with us building the team like Dallas, but can’t for the life of me shake the Norm Green move to Dallas and the cup win a few years later.  Plus the Cowboys Hail Mary win over the Vikings makes me hate all things Dallas.  Edmonton is my hope.  

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    Nice article, Tony, and some really good comparisons to what the Wild could become. No problem seeing the Stars win it all and watching Granlund, Dumba and Oerttinger celebrate. Modano, too, probably.

    For me there's just something sentimental about the Oilers and the Cup finding its way back to our friendly neighbors to the north. I'm in my 60's and loved watching Edmonton in their hay day. Nothing against the other three remaining teams, but it would be nice to see the Cup where there is snow and ice and cold.

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    No matter how much you like and miss Dumba and Granlund, I could never cheer for a division rival, especially Benn, Hintz et al. Even though they’re Canadian, I’m rooting for McDavid and gang.

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    I like to see teams who have never won a Cup before bring one home but that's not going to happen this year. I think there is only nine teams left on that list the Wild being one of them. If it can't be a team that hasn't won before I like to see players the Wild have traded away get their ring. Dallas has a Dumba, Grandlund and Steel so I have no problem seeing them win one. 

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    I hated Dallas for many years. I loathed them the day the Met Center crumbled as I watched it from the MOA parking lot. It was nothing but disdain when the won the cup soon after leaving.

    Then I realized. Norm did try to keep the Stars here. He tried to build a destination in combining it with the MOA. Sure, he got a little handsy with the women but when it came down to it (in my opinion), he was on an island against the Metropolitan Sports Commission (corrupt) and had a business opportunity presented to him that had more $$$ than he could refuse. 

    There are plenty of reasons to hate Dallas, but the Stars moving there isn't one of them.

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    14 hours ago, hydguy75 said:

    Modano is the Wild Hockey Ops Supervisor.  You do know that right?

    And there is a statue of him at American Airlines Arena in Dallas. You do know that right?

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    As a hockey fan, I am excited over the potential of a Dallas-Florida matchup. That could be some epic SCF games. I have no issues rooting for the Stars as long as they aren't playing the Wild. And yes, Norm Green still sucks.

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    Sing the song with me every time Dallas scores at home- "Dallas Sucks, Dallas Sucks, Dallas Sucks!"

    I'm completely with Skol up top, I just can't stomach it now that all the players I cheered for as North Stars are gone. No, this franchise is based upon thievery, and deserves eternal purgatory. Get them just far enough for disappointment to crumble the fanbase yet again! 

    In this case, go Oilers. 

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    I have to say I'm rooting for the Canes but tremendously pessimistic they can get any further. I love the way Florida built their team, and it wasn't due to so many lottery picks either. Their team building yielded Barkov and Ekblad on the current team who were lottery picks. Most everything else has been savvy pickups when a player wasn't wanted, a great signing in Reinhart, and a blockbuster trade in Tkachuk. 

    We could build this same way. We don't even have the lottery picks necessary, but we've found a diamond in our own rough in Kaprizov, and Ek is a lower version of Barkov, but in a similar style. Chisholm is just like a Forsling pickup, we don't have a Bennett pickup yet, but we're poised to be in a good position to get that blockbuster should one become available. Eichel, Rantanen, and Tkachuk have been recent. Another one is probably due to come up at the end of '27. 

    Billy, don't spend it all, keep some aside to wait and pounce. That's how Shooter would do it! 

    Here's a thought: Is Rossi developed enough yet? I think he has a couple more levels he can get to. Would it be better to trade him here, or bridge him and trade him when he's up another level? Remember, you're not trading him to get him out, you're trading him to get something that fits us better in.

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    18 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

    Remember, you're not trading him to get him out,

    I'm thinking that's how Billy views it. His view is the only one that matters. Billy has not publicly bad mouthed Rossi like he did Fiala he has used more of a back handed approach. We need to get Ek some help on that line. Pretty obvious who he was talking about. And he has publicly said nothing to support Rossi. He's letting it be known he is on the block. When you don't see value in someone it's hard to get value in return. Billy is a lousy poker player. 

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    I came across this when starting to look nationally today:

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    Kate Pettersen: “All right. Well, speaking of players and their carousel. There’s a lot of teams getting to work behind the scenes, and one of those things that we’re hearing is that Ottawa is looking for something very specific.

    They’re looking for a right-shot top-four defenseman. Who are they looking at? And who do you think could end up being that guy?

    Pagnotta: “Yeah, they join about 10 other teams, 15 other teams that would love to add the same thing, Kate. But yeah, it was reported earlier this week that that’s something they’re looking for

    from NHLtraderumors. If 10-15 teams are looking for an RHS top 4 defender, it seems like we should have people backed up out the door looking at Spurgy. The quote was taken in reference to negotiations with Rasmus Anderssen and the Flames. With the cap going up, this seems like a perfect time for teams to fit a guy like Spurgeon into their team.

    I'm not saying at all that Spurgy isn't valuable on this team, but I don't see him around for a cup run. I would rather have Jiricek getting acclimated on pairing 2 with Brodin and re-route that $7.5m contract into offense. 

    Let's just assume that Spurgy has a similar 10 team list. My guess would be Canadian teams - Edmonton, Columbus, Buffalo, NYI and NJD. That seems to lead plenty of teams who might be looking for a top 4 RHS defender. I might even switch out Columbus for NYR since Spurgy seems like more of a small town guy and has experience with Evason. 

    I think if Guerin is looking to move him, this might be the best time to do so. I think you take advantage of the ability to backfill cheaply and switch captains which needs to happen.

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    18 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

    Let's just assume that Spurgy has a similar 10 team list. My guess would be Canadian teams - Edmonton, Columbus, Buffalo, NYI and NJD. That seems to lead plenty of teams who might be looking for a top 4 RHS defender. I might even switch out Columbus for NYR since Spurgy seems like more of a small town guy and has experience with Evason. 

    Spurgy is from the Edmonton area so that may be a preferred spot.

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    2 hours ago, Citizen Strife said:

    Rossi to Montreal for anything from multiple firsts, a first and/or Dach/Beck, or straight up for Reinbacher.

    So, the rumor for Reinbacher, are they quoting Kalisha?

    Looking at what Guerin likes, I'm thinking Kirby Dach + '26 draft ammo. Dach would fill a whole and has yet to break out offensively. He fulfills what Guerin has said: Someone who can help Ek, comes from the right side and is 24 with a 6'4" 225 lb. frame.

    While he doesn't replace Rossi in the skill area, he does fill a void. I could certainly see bringing Brock Nelson in, letting Yurov play center but Nelson take draws, and going with an Ek-Nelson-Dach down the middle trio. Those are the things that Guerin finds important. Would that help us? I think it does come playoff time assuming good health.

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    3 minutes ago, Up North Guy said:

    Spurgy is from the Edmonton area so that may be a preferred spot.

    That's why I took Edmonton off his list. While I think it's a long shot that they could afford him, there's always that back of the mind dream that he was playing for the Oilers winning the Cup. 

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    I missed the news that Lou Lamorillo was out in NYI. I assume he retired. If this is the case, the new GM, Darche, may want to go full overhaul which would probably be pretty smart. That would mean that guys like Lee and Barzal would be on the block, and I'd say that NYI's rebuild is close to half way complete. They've got a good goalie and several good young defenders. Now it's about rebuilding the offense. 

    I'd also assume that their style is about to change. With Lou gone, I would say that takes out a GM who was always trying to get the best out of a deal.

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    1 hour ago, mnfaninnc said:

    While he doesn't replace Rossi in the skill area,

    I hope Yurov and to a degree Liam O can bring cost effective skill. Mitch M’s upcoming contract will reset just how much $ skill players command with the cap rising. I have been watching Florida carefully, they have finishers all throughout their lineup but not necessarily flashy high cost players. Give me a couple of guys like that. Meanwhile I don’t see a lot of risk with adding players like Dach. Charlie S. Is one of the prospects I’m interested in seeing soon (2026). as well. 

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    1 hour ago, Burnt Toast said:

    I hope Yurov and to a degree Liam O can bring cost effective skill. Mitch M’s upcoming contract will reset just how much $ skill players command with the cap rising. I have been watching Florida carefully, they have finishers all throughout their lineup but not necessarily flashy high cost players. Give me a couple of guys like that. Meanwhile I don’t see a lot of risk with adding players like Dach. Charlie S. Is one of the prospects I’m interested in seeing soon (2026). as well. 

    I think Stramel would have to have a really great senior year at MSU to get added to the big club right off the bat. I think he will need some time in the A to get up to speed.

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    1 hour ago, Up North Guy said:

    I think Stramel would have to have a really great senior year at MSU to get added to the big club right off the bat. I think he will need some time in the A to get up to speed.

    Absolutely he'll need time in the A. Even a great season with MSU wouldn't prepare him to jump 2 leagues. I'll be happy he's got his confidence back.

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    6 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

    Absolutely he'll need time in the A. Even a great season with MSU wouldn't prepare him to jump 2 leagues. I'll be happy he's got his confidence back.

    I'm still waiting to see what made Stramel a 1st rounder...

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