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    Tom Schreier

    In October, The Athletic revealed that Bill Guerin had presented Minnesota Wild owner Craig Leipold with a five-year plan. “It’s about becoming a true contender,” Guerin said. “I don’t want to try to fool anybody. I don’t think we’ve been serious contenders in the past. I just don’t. And we’re trying to get there.”

    Guerin said the Wild are in Year 2 of the plan, with a few crucial tenants. They must re-sign Kirill Kaprizov, who is eligible for an extension after this season. Core players like Matt Boldy and Brock Faber must “thrive,” while top prospects like Jesper Wallstedt and Danila Yurov must “arrive and be impactful.”

    Finally, Minnesota must sign a few difference-making free agents once the league reduces the cap penalties for buying Zach Parise and Ryan Suter out in 2021. Spotrac projects the Wild will have $19.6 million in cap space next season, ranking them 19th in the league. Kaprizov will demand top dollar, and the Wild must decide whether to bridge or commit to Marco Rossi

    Mr. Leipold expects July 1 to feel like “Christmas.” Still, he appears to have tied Guerin’s fate to Kaprizov. Mr. Leipold said that when Guerin begins talks with Kaprizov and his agent next offseason, Guerin will communicate his entire “plan” to him.

     “[Kaprizov is] the most important part of our five-year plan,” Mr. Leipold said. “I think I can say that.”

    Besides letting Kaprizov sign elsewhere, Mr. Leipold has given Guerin free rein to manage the Wild as he sees fit. Guerin has become the closest thing the NHL has to Jerry Jones. He doesn’t own the Wild like Jones owns the NFL’s Dallas Cowboys. Still, Mr. Leipold extended Guerin’s contract and elevated him to president of hockey operations in 2023 after four straight first-round exits.

    “Four years ago, Bill brought his championship pedigree to our organization, and the improvements he’s made to our hockey team and organization are self-evident,” Mr. Leipold said in 2023. “The results are both tangible and intangible, and he continues to demonstrate his talent for building a Stanley Cup-contending team. We are excited about what the future holds for fans in the State of Hockey.”

    Mr. Leipold didn’t want a complete rebuild, so he doesn’t hold Minnesota’s two first-round exits and missing the playoffs last year under cap hell against him. Still, the Wild consciously decided to try to contend under the Parise-Suter buyout penalties instead of accruing higher draft capital. Mr. Leipold also doesn’t seem concerned about Geurin’s conflicts with his former cap guy and travel secretary. Mr. Leipold said there’s “zero heat” on Guerin, who’s in his sixth season.

    “If we’re almost there, maybe it takes us a sixth year [of the plan],” Leipold said. “I’m okay with that. … But we have to start with a plan and feel good about where we’re going. We have to get out of this. I don’t like not making the playoffs. It’s embarrassing.”

    Jones manages the NFL’s most discussed franchise with immunity because he’s the owner. Unlike the league’s other general managers, he doesn’t report to anyone. He will maintain the job as long as he can find someone to coach the Cowboys and players who will sign in Dallas. 

    Still, despite having ample resources and an aligned power structure, the Cowboys haven’t capitalized on their regular-season success in the playoffs. They haven’t been out of the second round since winning the Super Bowl in 1995. Before going 7-10 last season, Dallas had won 12 regular-season games for three years in a row. However, they lost in the first round once and in the second round the other season. 

    The Wild had 113- and 103-point seasons in the two years preceding Guerin’s promotion. However, his teams have always lost in the first round of the playoffs. The Wild haven’t reached the second round since 2014-15 and have only advanced to the conference finals once, in 2002-03.

    Guerin has locked in a good, young core headlined by Faber, Boldly, and Joel Eriksson Ek. The Wild also developed The Athletic’s second-best prospect pool without tanking. After missing the playoffs last season, Minnesota appears to be on track to qualify this year. 

    Still, lingering issues indicate underlying problems within the organization. Minnesota told Wallstedt to get a place in the Twin Cities because he’d be part of a three-goalie rotation. Instead, they sent him down to Iowa because of cap issues, which affected his game earlier this season. Minnesota’s handling of Wallstedt this season appears to violate the five-year plan.

    The Wild also have had a pattern of irregular prospect management. They overbaked Boldy and didn’t seem to have a plan with Rossi. They traded for David Jiricek in late November, and he played well in January. Still, we haven’t seen him since. A strong prospect pool is only helpful if the coaches and front office develop the players correctly.

    Mr. Leipold also expressed his frustration with missing the playoffs. Still, Guerin retained Dean Evason after Craig Berube outcoached him with the St. Louis Blues, and Peter DeBoer beat him with the Vegas Golden Knights and the Dallas Stars. Guerin fired him after a 5-10-4 start last season. By the time John Hynes took over, last year’s team was too far gone to make the postseason. But perhaps they could have if Hynes had coached the team from the start.

    The Wild also entered Year 1 with much of the core under contracts with no-move clauses. Signing Faber, Boldy, and Eriksson Ek at value makes sense. Extending Ryan Hartman, who’s had discipline issues, and peripheral players like Marcus Johansson, Freddy Gaudreau, and Jon Merrill doesn’t make much sense when they comprise a core that hasn’t won in the playoffs.

    That was in Year 1, and the Wild seem focused on the present more than the future in Year 2. They sent a second-round pick to the Nashville Predators for 35-year-old Gustav Nyquist at the deadline. They also traded 23-year-old prospect Marat Khusnutdinov to the Boston Bruins for 27-year-old rookie Justin Brazeau, a larger player with less upside.

    Locking in a core makes sense once a team has succeeded in the playoffs. Trading prospects to fill roster holes is common practice when teams are a player or two away from contending. However, that’s not the case with Minnesota. Still, with each passing day, it feels less like the Wild have a plan. Instead, they’ve empowered Guerin to do whatever he feels will make the team better at any given moment.

    Hopefully, Kaprizov believes that’s a winning formula.

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    The comparison to an ancient NFL owner is ridiculous. Guerin didn't create all the cap issues the Wild have faced. Other than having Kaprizov & Boldy as drafted prospects, the Wild were in pretty terrible position to compete for several years when Guerin took the job with huge contracts to aging/declining Suter & Parise. Many GMs may have wanted to tank, but the owner did not see that as acceptible.

    I questioned a lot of how Guerin managed those early situations, but the results have been some of the most productive in the Wild's history despite working with less cap space than virtually every other team in the league.

    The owner giving Guerin time to get beyond the cap constraints makes a ton of sense. Guerin has been planning for 2025 for most of the last 5 years, adding draft picks, then drafting prospects, and trading for Jiricek, so that they can put a competitive product on the ice from 2025-2030.

    He will not see 2030 if they aren't making the playoffs, but if he can get Kaprizov signed to an extension, bring in Yurov, Buium, and Jiricek for 2025, along with an impact free agent, the Wild could take a major step towards turning into contenders. I appreciate the fact that he isn't going all and wasting assets now when the team isn't ready to truly contend.

    Guerin deserves some time to see the team he's been building towards finally take the ice the next couple of seasons.

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    I think it is fair to say that the BG continues to try to improve by adding/subtracting the bottom of the roster.  Which just doesn't move the needle and he doesn't have the money to do anything else.  The players we have with legit top 6 skills are Kirill, Boldy, Zuc, Ek (Just 4).... and 2 are injured.  Nobody else is a legitimate top 6 player...and Zuc is questionable at this point.  Freeing up the buyout money next year should allow us to bring in at least 2 more top 6 players that can make an impact.  We should have sold more at the deadline this year to prepare for the off season and next years TDL.  We will never be cup contenders until we can put 6 top 6 players on the ice.

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    How many years of BG and were still in year two? So why didn’t he sell assets the first few years before his so called plan started?  Why did  he waste assets year after year to be embarrassed in playoffs instead of collecting assets?  He says he knew we were never contenders so why was he wasting assets? 
       Why did he waste assets to bring Jo Jo back when everyone knows he doesn’t compete. Why didn’t he waste a 2 nd to go get nyquist when he could have signed him over Jo Jo ? Why did he waste a  2 nd round prospect Marat to bring in a guy who can’t skate and is already getting benched? It makes even  less sense if you look at the center depth. You trade away a center when you have none before you go into the playoffs for another Fred g 28 yr old ahler on the fringe of playing in nhl. What was the point of wasting two 2 nd round assets this year for bad wingers that don’t do anything to move needle. If he did anything at the deadline it should have been for future. Like get a fricking center already. Hartman isn’t one. Fred isn’t one. Rossi is flirting with being a 3rd line center more than a 1 st. He’s got the wilds top wingers an is doing nothing 

       The wild had a bad penalty kill last year so Billy went to fix it in free agency. Instead of getting a flipping center to win draws he goes and wastes more money and term on a pylon that has done absolutely nothing for this team except eat salary cap. Then billy cries at deadline he has no money for moves. Well Hartman and Trenin get you almost 8 mill and they don’t do anything for the team. Why didn’t he move one or both? I know because they have zero value with the stupid contracts Billy gave them. Billy runing around with a pocket full of money in free agency is dangerous for the wilds future . 
        Watching the game Sunday I found it interesting the fans were cheering for pit. The fan base isn’t excited going into a playoff run . All the other fan bases seem excited yet we all know what’s coming. That’s pathetic. It’s pathetic because it’s basically the same team as when Billy got here doing the same things. Play good enough to make playoffs but not good enough to beat anyone in a playoff round. Same guys like Jo Jo Fred Hartman Merrill moose doing same half ass stuff year after year.  Why hasn’t Billy been trying to improve the supporting cast with better guys under better contracts instead of trotting out the same old lineup fans are sick of. Get more for your money Billy! 
       Future doesn’t seem bright with him running the ship. 

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    12 minutes ago, Dean said:

    How many years of BG and were still in year two? So why didn’t he sell assets the first few years before his so called plan started?  Why did  he waste assets year after year to be embarrassed in playoffs instead of collecting assets?  He says he knew we were never contenders so why was he wasting assets? 
       Why did he waste assets to bring Jo Jo back when everyone knows he doesn’t compete. Why didn’t he waste a 2 nd to go get nyquist when he could have signed him over Jo Jo ? Why did he waste a  2 nd round prospect Marat to bring in a guy who can’t skate and is already getting benched? It makes even  less sense if you look at the center depth. You trade away a center when you have none before you go into the playoffs for another Fred g 28 yr old ahler on the fringe of playing in nhl. What was the point of wasting two 2 nd round assets this year for bad wingers that don’t do anything to move needle. If he did anything at the deadline it should have been for future. Like get a fricking center already. Hartman isn’t one. Fred isn’t one. Rossi is flirting with being a 3rd line center more than a 1 st. He’s got the wilds top wingers an is doing nothing 

       The wild had a bad penalty kill last year so Billy went to fix it in free agency. Instead of getting a flipping center to win draws he goes and wastes more money and term on a pylon that has done absolutely nothing for this team except eat salary cap. Then billy cries at deadline he has no money for moves. Well Hartman and Trenin get you almost 8 mill and they don’t do anything for the team. Why didn’t he move one or both? I know because they have zero value with the stupid contracts Billy gave them. Billy runing around with a pocket full of money in free agency is dangerous for the wilds future . 
        Watching the game Sunday I found it interesting the fans were cheering for pit. The fan base isn’t excited going into a playoff run . All the other fan bases seem excited yet we all know what’s coming. That’s pathetic. It’s pathetic because it’s basically the same team as when Billy got here doing the same things. Play good enough to make playoffs but not good enough to beat anyone in a playoff round. Same guys like Jo Jo Fred Hartman Merrill moose doing same half ass stuff year after year.  Why hasn’t Billy been trying to improve the supporting cast with better guys under better contracts instead of trotting out the same old lineup fans are sick of. Get more for your money Billy! 
       Future doesn’t seem bright with him running the ship. 

    I have to agree. When Blunder Billy showed up I was excited, and he seemed like he had a vision for this team, 5 years later, and the team is no better than when Fletcher ran the show. At least he put a team together that made it past the 1st round. 

    If he is in year 2 of his "5 year plan" then we are screwed. Trenin, Hartman, and Foligno are all going to be stuck on this team through the duration of this. That tells me we won't make it out of the 1st round then either. Hopefully 97 sees the writing on the wall and goes someplace to win a cup. No GM with a brain loads up 12 million into a 4th line. 

    He can cry about having 1 hand tied behind his back due to cap penalties, but then to turn around and create a cap issue the moment these penalties fall of is absolutely stupid. 

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    52 minutes ago, Dean said:

    How many years of BG and were still in year two? So why didn’t he sell assets the first few years before his so called plan started?  Why did  he waste assets year after year to be embarrassed in playoffs instead of collecting assets?  He says he knew we were never contenders so why was he wasting assets? 
       Why did he waste assets to bring Jo Jo back when everyone knows he doesn’t compete. Why didn’t he waste a 2 nd to go get nyquist when he could have signed him over Jo Jo ? Why did he waste a  2 nd round prospect Marat to bring in a guy who can’t skate and is already getting benched? It makes even  less sense if you look at the center depth. You trade away a center when you have none before you go into the playoffs for another Fred g 28 yr old ahler on the fringe of playing in nhl. What was the point of wasting two 2 nd round assets this year for bad wingers that don’t do anything to move needle. If he did anything at the deadline it should have been for future. Like get a fricking center already. Hartman isn’t one. Fred isn’t one. Rossi is flirting with being a 3rd line center more than a 1 st. He’s got the wilds top wingers an is doing nothing 

       The wild had a bad penalty kill last year so Billy went to fix it in free agency. Instead of getting a flipping center to win draws he goes and wastes more money and term on a pylon that has done absolutely nothing for this team except eat salary cap. Then billy cries at deadline he has no money for moves. Well Hartman and Trenin get you almost 8 mill and they don’t do anything for the team. Why didn’t he move one or both? I know because they have zero value with the stupid contracts Billy gave them. Billy runing around with a pocket full of money in free agency is dangerous for the wilds future . 
        Watching the game Sunday I found it interesting the fans were cheering for pit. The fan base isn’t excited going into a playoff run . All the other fan bases seem excited yet we all know what’s coming. That’s pathetic. It’s pathetic because it’s basically the same team as when Billy got here doing the same things. Play good enough to make playoffs but not good enough to beat anyone in a playoff round. Same guys like Jo Jo Fred Hartman Merrill moose doing same half ass stuff year after year.  Why hasn’t Billy been trying to improve the supporting cast with better guys under better contracts instead of trotting out the same old lineup fans are sick of. Get more for your money Billy! 
       Future doesn’t seem bright with him running the ship. 

    Have you dried your tears yet little baby?

    I thought Evason couldn't coach and everyone in the NHL knew it? Your opinions are trash, so you should open your email to send it to yourself.

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    A strong prospect pool is only helpful if the coaches and front office develop the players correctly.

    The stench in Dezzy Moinez isn’t just the meat packing smell wafting in from Sioux City (a.k.a. Sewer City). Our AHL club is lacking the ability to, ya know, develop players.

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    I’ve just finished BG’s new book. “ How to keep your owner happy while building a contender.” I can’t recommend it enough! Strangely no mention of Jerry J. as a mentor/ influencer. It’s pretty clear that the five year plan is in place because they’ve been getting their best players through the draft. Next year isn’t going to be “The Breakout Year.” It’s when they add top six/four players from the prospect pool and give them time to adjust. 

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    I don't like billy but to be fair I think liepold is always going to be an issue. He doesn't seem to care as long as fans are in the stands and selling out. In mn just making the playoffs for the wild, it does.

    That said, I think billy is too egotistical and "old skool" and he should not be a gm.

     

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    7 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

    Come on, Tom, this isn't anything like the circus that is the Cowboys. It's not even remotely close.

     

    I would double heart this if I could..

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    I like how everyone rips on Guerin saying this is all his fault.  Think about it.  The team is at the top of the cap with a roster when healthy was one of the top teams in the league.  People complain about the contracts he signed and who they signed.  When in reality the signings were all they could do.  And when those horrible contracts come off the books others will fill the spots.  This year the Wild lose Merril and Johansson and Fluery.  That opens the door for Yurov, Buium and Wallstedt.   Next year they lose Bogosian and Zucarello which opens the door for Hiedt and Jiricek.  There is a method to the madness that everyone complains about.

    It might seem like total chaos right now because of all the injuries and the team fading.  There is a plan and I'm fine with it because the team was solid when they were healthy. 

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    18 hours ago, 1Brotherbill said:

    I like how everyone rips on Guerin saying this is all his fault.  Think about it.  The team is at the top of the cap with a roster when healthy was one of the top teams in the league.  People complain about the contracts he signed and who they signed.  When in reality the signings were all they could do.  And when those horrible contracts come off the books others will fill the spots.  This year the Wild lose Merril and Johansson and Fluery.  That opens the door for Yurov, Buium and Wallstedt.   Next year they lose Bogosian and Zucarello which opens the door for Hiedt and Jiricek.  There is a method to the madness that everyone complains about.

    It might seem like total chaos right now because of all the injuries and the team fading.  There is a plan and I'm fine with it because the team was solid when they were healthy. 

    It seems like this is just another in a long line of articles trashing BG and the Wild on the "WILD FAN SITE". I am not an apologist for BG. He screws up occasionally just like any GM. He also succeeds just like most GM's. A more balanced approach would seem warranted for a site like this.

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    On 3/10/2025 at 5:30 PM, Need4speed99 said:

    I think liepold is always going to be an issue.

    It sure seems that way. The Twenty/Five year plan better get us in the CF at a minimum or the fan base is going to riot. 

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    On 3/10/2025 at 8:36 PM, 1Brotherbill said:

    I like how everyone rips on Guerin saying this is all his fault.  Think about it.  The team is at the top of the cap with a roster when healthy was one of the top teams in the league.  People complain about the contracts he signed and who they signed.  When in reality the signings were all they could do.  And when those horrible contracts come off the books others will fill the spots.  This year the Wild lose Merril and Johansson and Fluery.  That opens the door for Yurov, Buium and Wallstedt.   Next year they lose Bogosian and Zucarello which opens the door for Hiedt and Jiricek.  There is a method to the madness that everyone complains about.

    It might seem like total chaos right now because of all the injuries and the team fading.  There is a plan and I'm fine with it because the team was solid when they were healthy. 

    So 6yrs into a 5yr plan that resembles EXACTYLY what the the previous gms did... how are you guys STILL covering for him? 

    Also, you have limited time to resign kap and make plays in FA. the way billy is spending money on bottom 6 players they have NO shot at any big names.

    And how were they they solid? They haven't won a 1st round playoff series in nhl record setting fashion. You are just a sheep.

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    On 3/11/2025 at 5:59 PM, Burnt Toast said:

    It sure seems that way. The Twenty/Five year plan better get us in the CF at a minimum or the fan base is going to riot. 

    Mn fans are too passive/ or too Niave/stupid to make changes. Watch the patterns, its kinda obvious.

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    9 hours ago, Need4speed99 said:

    So 6yrs into a 5yr plan that resembles EXACTYLY what the the previous gms did... how are you guys STILL covering for him? 

    Also, you have limited time to resign kap and make plays in FA. the way billy is spending money on bottom 6 players they have NO shot at any big names.

    And how were they they solid? They haven't won a 1st round playoff series in nhl record setting fashion. You are just a sheep.

    Sheep, huh? You sound like a donkey.

    Which assets that Guerin had when he joined the Wild have gone elsewhere and been difference makers? Are they more valuable than what Guerin received in return?

    Free agents don't make decisions without knowing the situation they are going into. Prior to next season, free agents would have known the Wild were in salary cap hell and weren't going to compete. That likely would have been the same if Parise and Suter were on the Wild too. Players joining that situation often would require an overpay to lure them in.

    Guerin may have overpaid around 10% for the veterans he likes, but he also signed all of the Wild's key free agents to excellent long-term deals(often around 10% under their value), or traded them for valuable future assets(Fiala), and built one of the top 5 prospect pools in the league while fielding a playoff-level team every year he's been with the Wild.

    Guerin took over an 83 point team without many assets in the prospect pool, but he's signed the important ones, and later extended them, and the Wild have averaged just over 100 points since he's been the GM.

    You don't understand the plan, so you mock it. Impatience and ignorance often go hand in hand. Congratulations on showing your hand.

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    14 hours ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

    Sheep, huh? You sound like a donkey.

    Which assets that Guerin had when he joined the Wild have gone elsewhere and been difference makers? Are they more valuable than what Guerin received in return?

    Free agents don't make decisions without knowing the situation they are going into. Prior to next season, free agents would have known the Wild were in salary cap hell and weren't going to compete. That likely would have been the same if Parise and Suter were on the Wild too. Players joining that situation often would require an overpay to lure them in.

    Guerin may have overpaid around 10% for the veterans he likes, but he also signed all of the Wild's key free agents to excellent long-term deals(often around 10% under their value), or traded them for valuable future assets(Fiala), and built one of the top 5 prospect pools in the league while fielding a playoff-level team every year he's been with the Wild.

    Guerin took over an 83 point team without many assets in the prospect pool, but he's signed the important ones, and later extended them, and the Wild have averaged just over 100 points since he's been the GM.

    You don't understand the plan, so you mock it. Impatience and ignorance often go hand in hand. Congratulations on showing your hand.

    So what has changed? And now we have the same team tied to vet contracts tying down, GASP, the 4th line. 

    He said 5 yrs for a contender, we are in yr 6 and NO closer. Who mocks what?

    What is the plan?

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    Also, the prospect pool is their selling point, yet, all I see is underperforming aging vets playing while touting the prospect pool.

    Fletch did the same thing and then at the end traded prospects and picks to be a "contender". Nothing has changed the last 15+ years, so how is maintaining the status quo helping?

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    8 hours ago, Need4speed99 said:

    He said 5 yrs for a contender, we are in yr 6 and NO closer. Who mocks what?

    What is the plan?

    That plan was not started day 1. There was an assessment period after Guerin was at the helm. The team has won at a 102-point pace per 82 games since he replaced the coach that was in place when he took over as GM.

    The 5 year plan was started after the buy-outs. When healthy, the Wild were leading the league in points in December. Are the Capitals or Winnipeg contenders right now?

    Are the Oilers or Avalanche contenders if you put Mackinnon or McDavid on LTIR?

    The Wild are almost certainly a playoff team this season despite missing their best player for half of the year. Not only that, they are likely to be better as early as next season, and probably even better the year after that.

    Show me another playoff team in the NHL that is missing more than 10% of their cap space due to buyouts, or that have more than $14M combined tied up in 2 players who are bottom line players--that's the situation Guerin walked into.

    I questioned the buyouts when they happened.  I questioned a lot of moves he made, but the Wild now have a prospect pool with a handful of players likely to be impact NHLers, with a couple of possible star players, and have never gathered up standings points as consistently as they have since Guerin took over.

    If they can enter the playoffs healthy for once this season, which they haven't done the last few years, it would be a lot better way to evaluate them. many aren't incredibly excited about the team today, it's the team next season that could be the start of something special after they get Kaprizov extended and get Yurov signed.

    Jiricek and Buium starting their careers and Ohgren hopefully taking a step forward along with adding a top 6 player via free agency to replace Johansson. The Wild aren't that far away now, so I wouldn't give up on the 5 year plan that is a few years into the execution of it.

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    On 3/12/2025 at 11:33 PM, Need4speed99 said:

    So 6yrs into a 5yr plan that resembles EXACTYLY what the the previous gms did... how are you guys STILL covering for him? 

    Also, you have limited time to resign kap and make plays in FA. the way billy is spending money on bottom 6 players they have NO shot at any big names.

    And how were they they solid? They haven't won a 1st round playoff series in nhl record setting fashion. You are just a sheep.

    Solid was when everyone was healthy and a top 3 team in the league.  They had a Hart trophy candidate, a Vezina candidate and a President Trophy team.  The previous GM's traded away picks for rentals that never signed.  Signed home town heroes for large salaries that were never going to work.  I don't see that with this GM.  He has signed what he could with what he had.  It might look like a crutch and it may be, but the optics is this team will get better with the people he has drafted and traded for.  

    This offseason will be the test however, they have money to spend but so does everyone else in the league.  Overspending on something like a Brock Boeser will instantly change my view of this guy.  

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    On 3/16/2025 at 8:46 PM, 1Brotherbill said:

    Solid was when everyone was healthy and a top 3 team in the league.  They had a Hart trophy candidate, a Vezina candidate and a President Trophy team.  The previous GM's traded away picks for rentals that never signed.  Signed home town heroes for large salaries that were never going to work.  I don't see that with this GM.  He has signed what he could with what he had.  It might look like a crutch and it may be, but the optics is this team will get better with the people he has drafted and traded for.  

    This offseason will be the test however, they have money to spend but so does everyone else in the league.  Overspending on something like a Brock Boeser will instantly change my view of this guy.  

    So what has changed over the last 15+ years. They get good a couple years and SHOULD, move on. Yet they dont,what has changed?

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    On 3/10/2025 at 8:36 PM, 1Brotherbill said:

    I like how everyone rips on Guerin saying this is all his fault.  Think about it.  The team is at the top of the cap with a roster when healthy was one of the top teams in the league.  People complain about the contracts he signed and who they signed.  When in reality the signings were all they could do.  And when those horrible contracts come off the books others will fill the spots.  This year the Wild lose Merril and Johansson and Fluery.  That opens the door for Yurov, Buium and Wallstedt.   Next year they lose Bogosian and Zucarello which opens the door for Hiedt and Jiricek.  There is a method to the madness that everyone complains about.

    It might seem like total chaos right now because of all the injuries and the team fading.  There is a plan and I'm fine with it because the team was solid when they were healthy. 

    So what is the plan? 

    They seem to be stuck in the middle and if they want to ACTUALLY compete, how. 

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    On 3/14/2025 at 9:02 AM, Imyourhuckleberry said:

    That plan was not started day 1. There was an assessment period after Guerin was at the helm. The team has won at a 102-point pace per 82 games since he replaced the coach that was in place when he took over as GM.

    The 5 year plan was started after the buy-outs. When healthy, the Wild were leading the league in points in December. Are the Capitals or Winnipeg contenders right now?

    Are the Oilers or Avalanche contenders if you put Mackinnon or McDavid on LTIR?

    The Wild are almost certainly a playoff team this season despite missing their best player for half of the year. Not only that, they are likely to be better as early as next season, and probably even better the year after that.

    Show me another playoff team in the NHL that is missing more than 10% of their cap space due to buyouts, or that have more than $14M combined tied up in 2 players who are bottom line players--that's the situation Guerin walked into.

    I questioned the buyouts when they happened.  I questioned a lot of moves he made, but the Wild now have a prospect pool with a handful of players likely to be impact NHLers, with a couple of possible star players, and have never gathered up standings points as consistently as they have since Guerin took over.

    If they can enter the playoffs healthy for once this season, which they haven't done the last few years, it would be a lot better way to evaluate them. many aren't incredibly excited about the team today, it's the team next season that could be the start of something special after they get Kaprizov extended and get Yurov signed.

    Jiricek and Buium starting their careers and Ohgren hopefully taking a step forward along with adding a top 6 player via free agency to replace Johansson. The Wild aren't that far away now, so I wouldn't give up on the 5 year plan that is a few years into the execution of it.

    So when did the wild become contenders? The other teams you mentioned are. What does this team have to offer to run deep? Ahh yes liepold, tell us how these aging vets will elevate the team...

     

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