Article: Brock Boeser Is the Perfect Wild Offseason Target

[Robert Brent]

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[FredJohnson]

Wrong Brock if rumors are to be believed. (Nelson)

[mnhockeyfan03]

Absolutely no to Boeser.  And no to Nelson if he wants over 4mm.  No to Rossi as well. Lots of trades need to happen. 

[M_Nels]

He is a RH shot which would be nice and he's not all that old but I'm saying pass unless he gives one hell of a hometown deal and nothing more than a 5-6yr deal. He's a good player but I don't think the Wild should throw a lot of money at him.

Edited Tuesday at 09:27 PM by M_Nels

[Patrick]

Absolutely terrible idea. He has had ONE good year. ONE. Absolutely the most overrated player by MN hockey fans. And dreadful defensively.

[BeanPole Harvester]

While Boeser is a good fit for the Wild's lineup, a free-agency move for the forward would include a substantial price tag. Fortunately for Minnesota, they should have plenty of money to spend. According to Puckpedia, the Wild should have roughly $21 million to play with this offseason. 

That $21 mil is a little off. Looking at puckpedia, they are only showing 1 goalie. Adding Wallstedt would subtract $2.2 mil. Of the 6 returning defensemen, one of those is Buium. If we add in thecontracts of Jiricek, Ogren, Yurov and an extension of Rossi ($6 mil?) that will leave the Wild with around $7.5-$7.7 mil for free agancy.

The buyouts are still present though much reduced.

[hydguy75]

12 hours ago, mnhockeyfan03 said:

Lots of trades need to happen. 

Based on them just barely qualifying with a WC1 seeding and with GK having the Wild's number often, most likely during Round 1 as well, I cannot agree more.  It is evident the roster isn't SC competitive as it sits. 

[Citizen Strife]

2024-2025 Numbers Game (82 Games Played)

Record: 45-30-7; (97 pts, 4th in Central, 7th in Western Conference, 12th in NHL, 5-3-2 in L10)

1st Wild Card: Will Face Vegas in 1st Round

 

Goals For: 2.74 Per Game (25th in NHL)

Goals Against: 2.88 Per Game (14th in NHL)

PP: 20.9% (20th in NHL)

PK: 72.4% (30th in NHL)

 

Gustavsson: 31-19-6, 2.56 GAA (23rd in Goalies), .914 SV% (T-13th in Goalies)*

Fleury: 14-9-1, 2.93 GAA (55th in Goalies), .899 SV% (46th in Goalies)*

*Goalie Rankings could be skewed due to differences in games played. For instance, when weighed against goalies with 25 or more starts, Gus is ranked 11th in GAA and 5th in SV%.

Boldy: 27G, 46A, 73P (T-36th in NHL), +1

Rossi: 24G, 36A, 60P (T-81st in NHL), +3

Kaprizov: 25G, 31A, 56P, (T-96th in NHL) +19

Zuccarello: 19G, 35A, 54P (T-104th in NHL), 0

Gaudreau: 18G, 19A, 37P (T-209th in NHL), -2

+/-

Highest: Kaprizov (+19), Middleton (+11), Brodin (+10)

Lowest: Bogosian/Khusnutdinov/Ohgren (-6), Johansson/Hartman (-7), Merrill/Shore (-8)

[RedLake]

The Wild don't need soft players.

[SkolWild73]

2 hours ago, hydguy75 said:

Based on them just barely qualifying with a WC1 seeding and with GK having the Wild's number often, most likely during Round 1 as well, I cannot agree more.  It is evident the roster isn't SC competitive as it sits. 

This is all true.  But they were something like 21-6-2 when ek and Kap both played. (Going off of memory from a stat during the game when the came back).  Someone correct me if I am wrong.

Edited Wednesday at 11:59 AM by SkolWild73

[MNCountryLife]

Free agency is a great way to increase the team talent pool.  It's also easy to overpay for that talent.  Signing him for 7 years at $8.5M is what the article stated he likely wants.  Seems like most of the comments are coming in as a "No" don't bring him in at that value.  I'm curious, at what value does that change to a "Yes".

5 years/$7M/AAV?

3 years/$8.5M/AAV?

 

[BeanPole Harvester]

It's possible he just wants to play somewhere else other than vancouver and the money on the proposed contract wasn't really the issue.

But, assuming it is money related, at 28 years old, how long of a contract would anyone want to hand out. if the wild did do $8-8.5 AAV would 6 years be paying someone to skate with a piano on their back at that age 34 season? 

As I mentioned earlier, if the Wild are bringing in some rookies on entry level contracts at least 1 of them would need to play in Iowa for the year for them top be able to affrord the $8-8.5

[BeanPole Harvester]

14 minutes ago, MNCountryLife said:

Free agency is a great way to increase the team talent pool.  It's also easy to overpay for that talent.  Signing him for 7 years at $8.5M is what the article stated he likely wants.  Seems like most of the comments are coming in as a "No" don't bring him in at that value.  I'm curious, at what value does that change to a "Yes".

5 years/$7M/AAV?

3 years/$8.5M/AAV?

 

I have not watched enough of him over the years to really have a good idea of what type of player he is. I can see his statistics and he's put up good numbers over the years. Lot's of comments to stay clear of him. 

If I had to throw a guess out there, and the Wild were actually interested, they cannot afford the $8.5 AVV and I would say 3 years/$6-6.5 AVV.

[Scalptrash]

Not worth what he will demand. He has peaked and will only decline from here. Vancouver also has a much stronger offensive squad overall, he will not produce the same in MN.

[JRR]

Alex Tuch would be an epic pickup or Tage Thompson.  
 

[SkolWild73]

10 hours ago, BeanPole Harvester said:

While Boeser is a good fit for the Wild's lineup, a free-agency move for the forward would include a substantial price tag. Fortunately for Minnesota, they should have plenty of money to spend. According to Puckpedia, the Wild should have roughly $21 million to play with this offseason. 

That $21 mil is a little off. Looking at puckpedia, they are only showing 1 goalie. Adding Wallstedt would subtract $2.2 mil. Of the 6 returning defensemen, one of those is Buium. If we add in thecontracts of Jiricek, Ogren, Yurov and an extension of Rossi ($6 mil?) that will leave the Wild with around $7.5-$7.7 mil for free agancy.

The buyouts are still present though much reduced.

I think they will have a little more than $7.5-$7.7, assuming they don't resign anyone besides Rossi.

Projected salary cap: $21,691,834 with 9 forwards (Kap, Boldy, Ek, Zucc, Foligno, Hartman, Trenin, Freddy and Vinnie, 1 goalie (Gus) and 6 defensemen, (Faber, Spurg, Brodin, Midds, Bogo and Zeev) already included.

The Wall: $2,200,000

Ohgren:    $886,666

Jiricek:     $918,333

Yurov:       $966,500 (I used the money Zeev got)

That would leave us $16,720,335, with 11 forwards, 7 defensemen, and two goalies.

If Rossi gets $6.75-$7M, would leave us around $9.7-$10M for a free agent to fill out the forward spot.  Hopefully they don't spend over $8M and leave some room to make some moves at the trade deadline next year if needed.

 

[Scalptrash]

23 minutes ago, JRR said:

Alex Tuch would be an epic pickup or Tage Thompson.  
 

Both are extreme long shots. Tuch loves Buffalo (his favorite team growing up) and I don't see them letting Thompson go. They are building around both of them.

[Scalptrash]

15 minutes ago, SkolWild73 said:

I think they will have a little more than $7.5-$7.7, assuming they don't resign anyone besides Rossi.

Projected salary cap: $21,691,834 with 9 forwards (Kap, Boldy, Ek, Zucc, Foligno, Hartman, Trenin, Freddy and Vinnie, 1 goalie (Gus) and 6 defensemen, (Faber, Spurg, Brodin, Midds, Bogo and Zeev) already included.

The Wall: $2,200,000

Ohgren:    $886,666

Jiricek:     $918,333

Yurov:       $966,500 (I used the money Zeev got)

That would leave us $16,720,335, with 11 forwards, 7 defensemen, and two goalies.

If Rossi gets $6.75-$7M, would leave us around $9.7-$10M for a free agent to fill out the forward spot.  Hopefully they don't spend over $8M and leave some room to make some moves at the trade deadline next year if needed.

 

What about Kaprizov? He'll want to renegotiate, instead of re-signing, if he is going to stay here. If they don't do it this summer he is probably gone. I've been saying all along that they should trade him this summer so they don't overpay and put the team in cap constraints again. The reality is, he's now too injury prone and too much of a liability if this team is serious about going very far.

[raithis]

4 minutes ago, Scalptrash said:

What about Kaprizov? He'll want to renegotiate, instead of re-signing, if he is going to stay here. If they don't do it this summer he is probably gone. I've been saying all along that they should trade him this summer so they don't overpay and put the team in cap constraints again. The reality is, he's now too injury prone and too much of a liability if this team is serious about going very far.

Why would he renegotiate?

And any re-sign will be for the season AFTER this next one, meaning it's not part of next season's cap hit.  Given how the cap is projected to increase, we'll have more than enough to sign him for whatever that ends up being.

 

[raithis]

I realize the Free Agency market doesn't have a ton to offer, but I feel like we could make better choices than Boeser.

If he is willing to sign for less duration (like 3 years, and I'd prefer for a little less money too), maybe, but even then I'd be a little unsure about it.

I'd honestly rather have Nelson for 3yrs than Boeser if we are going after one of them.

That said, I'd rather they look at other options before collecting more Brocks.

[Kato AK]

17 hours ago, Patrick said:

Absolutely terrible idea. He has had ONE good year. ONE. Absolutely the most overrated player by MN hockey fans. And dreadful defensively.

Boeser has 8 full seasons in the NHL and was 0.75 ppg in 6 of the 8 seasons. The only players on the Wild the match that are KK, Boldy, and Zuccy.

[Scalptrash]

5 minutes ago, raithis said:

Why would he renegotiate?

And any re-sign will be for the season AFTER this next one, meaning it's not part of next season's cap hit.  Given how the cap is projected to increase, we'll have more than enough to sign him for whatever that ends up being.

 

That's a normal re-signing scenario, but he will want to renegotiate his current contract because the Wild will finally have money. Why would he wait another year and make less money when he could make it now. He's in the driver's seat. It will be a negotiating tactic for him to stay and Guerin will foolishly over pay him, like he always does.

[SkolWild73]

24 minutes ago, Scalptrash said:

What about Kaprizov? He'll want to renegotiate, instead of re-signing, if he is going to stay here. If they don't do it this summer he is probably gone. I've been saying all along that they should trade him this summer so they don't overpay and put the team in cap constraints again. The reality is, he's now too injury prone and too much of a liability if this team is serious about going very far.

Kap is signed through next year and I don't believe a player can renegotiate an existing contract.  

Offside Sports Law: Can NHL Contracts be Renegotiated Before Their End Date?

Edited Wednesday at 06:24 PM by SkolWild73

[SkolWild73]

14 minutes ago, raithis said:

I realize the Free Agency market doesn't have a ton to offer, but I feel like we could make better choices than Boeser.

If he is willing to sign for less duration (like 3 years, and I'd prefer for a little less money too), maybe, but even then I'd be a little unsure about it.

I'd honestly rather have Nelson for 3yrs than Boeser if we are going after one of them.

That said, I'd rather they look at other options before collecting more Brocks.

You are right, not a ton to offer.  The Athletic had their top 15 UFA's in the following order.  I am only including forwards

1. Marner

2. Bennet

3. Tavares

4, Ehlers

7. Nelson

8. Duchene

9. Boeser

11. Donato

12. Kane

13, Marchand

[BeanPole Harvester]

54 minutes ago, SkolWild73 said:

I think they will have a little more than $7.5-$7.7, assuming they don't resign anyone besides Rossi.

Projected salary cap: $21,691,834 with 9 forwards (Kap, Boldy, Ek, Zucc, Foligno, Hartman, Trenin, Freddy and Vinnie, 1 goalie (Gus) and 6 defensemen, (Faber, Spurg, Brodin, Midds, Bogo and Zeev) already included.

The Wall: $2,200,000

Ohgren:    $886,666

Jiricek:     $918,333

Yurov:       $966,500 (I used the money Zeev got)

That would leave us $16,720,335, with 11 forwards, 7 defensemen, and two goalies.

If Rossi gets $6.75-$7M, would leave us around $9.7-$10M for a free agent to fill out the forward spot.  Hopefully they don't spend over $8M and leave some room to make some moves at the trade deadline next year if needed.

 

Looks like I was a  little past my bedtime when I did my math...

I think you forgot to add the buyout's still on the books with your numbers. If my assumption is correct that would put them at about $8.8 mil