Article: The Wild Should Add Some Spice By Signing Matt Duchene

[Adam Overby]

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[Citizen Strife]

Probably staying in Dallas, and is out of the price range anyway.

[Will D. Ness]

I usually chant "Douche" when he scores.  He would be a good pick up for next season only.  No to 3 years.

[OldDutchChip]

what a horrible plan!!! sorry mate but it really is!

have we not learned anything from Danny Heaters decline? maybe Thomas Vanek? Parise after few years here?

Do we need another winger approaching a decline to drag down our team? and pay him 7 mil per? oh my WE DO NOT  

YIKES - what is that variable that you are working off? 

The Wild are on the cusp of something special. Adding Matt Duchene would be one of the missing variables in the equation needed for the dawn of a new era of success for Minnesota hockey.

HOLD the parade! And please pass on Duchene. Shit i'd instead target Radulov, he is also an X Star, has two front teeth missing (always good) and is 37 years young! Mentor Rossi a bit and give him that edge too! 

[Pewterschmidt]

15 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

what a horrible plan!!! sorry mate but it really is!

have we not learned anything from Danny Heaters decline? maybe Thomas Vanek? Parise after few years here?

Do we need another winger approaching a decline to drag down our team? and pay him 7 mil per? oh my WE DO NOT  

YIKES - what is that variable that you are working off? 

The Wild are on the cusp of something special. Adding Matt Duchene would be one of the missing variables in the equation needed for the dawn of a new era of success for Minnesota hockey.

HOLD the parade! And please pass on Duchene. Shit i'd instead target Radulov, he is also an X Star, has two front teeth missing (always good) and is 37 years young! Mentor Rossi a bit and give him that edge too! 

Another truth bomb from ODC

#yahyouknowme,whosdownwithODC

[B1GKappa97]

I can only imagine the comments if Billy G gave a 34 year old Matt Duchene a multi-year deal with a m-NTC. 

Honestly in the short-term he wouldn't be an awful pick up. He'd have an impact similar to Ryan O'Reilly with Nashville I think, if we could get him. Question is also the price. We've got $6M to play with, I think?

Duchene likely eats up all that. 

[mnfaninnc]

I've always liked Duchene's game. He had speed to burn and I had hoped we'd acquire him.....at 26. At 33, I'm wondering if that top gear can still get hit. Was Duchene successful under Heinzy? I don't think he really was.

Adam, however, brought his A game, writing an article worthy of an Amway convention! This was a great sales job on the player while briefly mentioning the 33. His proposal would mean we would get Duchene for years 33, 34, 35. He'd make an impact if he wanted to play hard, but there have been years and teams he's played on where he hasn't.

At $7m X 3, I'm thinking this isn't the deal or player we need. However, at 6'1" 210 he would suddenly become one of our larger players.

[Dango]

Chisholm is really the only in house FA  we need to sign what 2 mill or so , im not sure what he will require  .   im guessing 2 atleast  .

[Burnt Toast]

No thank you. Please find some younger up and comers with decent AAV and term. Sure we want to compete next year but 2025 is the year the gloves come off. If Wild Management needs to ice a long shot playoff team next year to appease the owner ( allegedly) fine. On the other hand if they really want to impress, wait a year, save some assets and then go all in. 

[PiranhasOnIce]

3 hours ago, B1GKappa97 said:

I can only imagine the comments if Billy G gave a 34 year old Matt Duchene a multi-year deal with a m-NTC. 

Honestly in the short-term he wouldn't be an awful pick up. He'd have an impact similar to Ryan O'Reilly with Nashville I think, if we could get him. Question is also the price. We've got $6M to play with, I think?

Duchene likely eats up all that. 

I think the Duche only made like $3m last year.  Was that likely a discount to play on a deeper roster of the Stars, expecting a legit shot at the cup?

[B1GKappa97]

9 hours ago, PiranhasOnIce said:

I think the Duche only made like $3m last year.  Was that likely a discount to play on a deeper roster of the Stars, expecting a legit shot at the cup?

100% 

I mean if we could get him for that much he'd be a damn steal, but does he view us as being close to a Cup? Likely not this coming season. 

[Imyourhuckleberry]

15 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

Was Duchene successful under Heinzy? I don't think he really was.

Depends on how you define success. He had the best point total(43+43=86), top goals and 2nd best assist season, of his career in his age 31 season with Hynes. He followed that up with a season he was on pace for 63 points in 80 games. Last season, he collected 65 points in 80 games.

He had some injuries the first 2 seasons in Nashville and they were eliminated first round of the playoffs each year in Nashville, so you can argue the success was limited even though the points were good his last 2 years.

[Citizen Strife]

An article from the Athletic has Eiserman dropping to us at 13.  I would risk it and take him there.  30-40 goals is 30-40 goals, all other game factors be damned.  If he hits big, it can be worth it.

[Jamesgang]

How about we draft a 5’9” 175lb winger, let him toil away in Iowa for 3-4 years while constantly claiming he is part of a top 5 prospect pipeline. After 4 years bring him up for 10 games played with the 4th line grinders and expect him to be the next Foligno. After an unsuccessful tryout in big leagues dump him for a 7th rounder. Rinse and repeat

[mnfaninnc]

49 minutes ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

Depends on how you define success. He had the best point total(43+43=86), top goals and 2nd best assist season, of his career in his age 31 season with Hynes. He followed that up with a season he was on pace for 63 points in 80 games. Last season, he collected 65 points in 80 games.

This is what I get for not looking anything up and going on a faded memory! Thanks for the stats, this changes things in my opinion a little more in favor of signing him. However, Adam's $7m X 3 suggestion, to me, is way off of market. What I'd like to do is go on a 1 year deal and see how that goes. He could see that a 1 year deal, inexpensive, makes sense because there's a lot more in the bank for the Wild the following year.

[mnfaninnc]

12 minutes ago, Citizen Strife said:

An article from the Athletic has Eiserman dropping to us at 13.  I would risk it and take him there.  30-40 goals is 30-40 goals, all other game factors be damned.  If he hits big, it can be worth it.

CS, who was also available at 13? And who was reaching in the top 10?

[mnfaninnc]

14 hours ago, Dango said:

Chisholm is really the only in house FA  we need to sign what 2 mill or so , im not sure what he will require  .   im guessing 2 atleast  .

Chisholm should be getting something in the area of $1m and a 1-way deal. He has little to no leverage.

[mnfaninnc]

3 hours ago, B1GKappa97 said:

100% 

I mean if we could get him for that much he'd be a damn steal, but does he view us as being close to a Cup? Likely not this coming season. 

But, like I said earlier, Duchene could see us that way and want to get in before the cap relief takes place. If he bets on himself and has a really good year, he could get a nice raise after the penalties are over. 

Here is one benefit of Shooter extending the trio right before camp last year: Other players see this, and promises that were made either orally or handshake were honored. This happened in Goligoski's case too, even though it ended poorly. Same for Fleury. Veteran free agents have this in the back of their minds when they are deciding between offers. If the offer is competitive, this can be a tie breaker.

I'm not saying I liked the extensions, but along with the negativity and underperformance of the contracts, there is the benefit of cost certainty and there is the benefit of the above. Silver lining? Maybe, but even Fenton had some bright moments proving that a broken clock is right twice a day.

[Citizen Strife]

16 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

 

 

16 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

CS, who was also available at 13? And who was reaching in the top 10?

Sennecke in the top 10, and Helenius dropping to 14-16.

Edited June 12 by Citizen Strife

[mnfaninnc]

19 minutes ago, Citizen Strife said:

Sennecke in the top 10, and Helenius dropping to 14-16.

I was a big Kieffer Bellows supporter over Kunin. While neither have had remarkable careers (and I'd support the Iowa Wild going after Bellows), how does Eiserman compare with Bellows? I believe Bellows' downside was skating. Is Eiserman shot only, or can he keep up with play? I think 200' can be taught, but a blazing shot can't be.

[Up North Guy]

52 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

I was a big Kieffer Bellows supporter over Kunin. While neither have had remarkable careers (and I'd support the Iowa Wild going after Bellows), how does Eiserman compare with Bellows? I believe Bellows' downside was skating. Is Eiserman shot only, or can he keep up with play? I think 200' can be taught, but a blazing shot can't be.

The impression i got on Eiserman from the Athletic article was that it was not a lack of ability on his part playing a 200' two way game but a lack of desire. I inferred that he saw himself as a shooter and was content with that. Perhaps i was wrong. I have not seen him play.

[Dango]

2 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

Chisholm should be getting something in the area of $1m and a 1-way deal. He has little to no leverage.

I was thinking he might get a little more to protect against an offer sheet from maybe Nashville if they wanted him back and they have 3- 2nd round picks  so a 2.4 offer they would lose 1  ,  or even just  1.4  they would lose a 3rd  .   but i dont really know all the rules  .

[mnfaninnc]

6 hours ago, Dango said:

I was thinking he might get a little more to protect against an offer sheet from maybe Nashville if they wanted him back and they have 3- 2nd round picks  so a 2.4 offer they would lose 1  ,  or even just  1.4  they would lose a 3rd  .   but i dont really know all the rules  .

If it were $2.4m, you'd let him go. If it were $1.4m you'd probably match it. 

Capfriendly says that he is arbitration eligible as an RFA. He's got 9 pts. in 33 career games. I don't think he wins much in an arbitration hearing. It shouldn't be more than $1m. While he has arbitration rights, it did not say he was able to take an offersheet, but I think he likely could. 

While you might say Nashville could make an offer, Winnipeg is where he came from. I simply don't think Chisholm gets much more than a QO from the Wild. This is not a player you burn bridges with in an offersheet.

[Dango]

47 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

If it were $2.4m, you'd let him go. If it were $1.4m you'd probably match it. 

Capfriendly says that he is arbitration eligible as an RFA. He's got 9 pts. in 33 career games. I don't think he wins much in an arbitration hearing. It shouldn't be more than $1m. While he has arbitration rights, it did not say he was able to take an offersheet, but I think he likely could. 

While you might say Nashville could make an offer, Winnipeg is where he came from. I simply don't think Chisholm gets much more than a QO from the Wild. This is not a player you burn bridges with in an offersheet.

My bad i forgot it was the Jets,  looks like they dont have a #2  ,  i was thinking we nabbed him in waivers and they'd want him back  possibly but without a 2nd rounder makes it more difficult  .  but then again im going off how i think that system works and not sure exactly if im even way off or not . 

[FredJohnson]

Douche-ain.