Justin Hein Hockey Wilderness Contributor Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 View full article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imyourhuckleberry Verified Member Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 I believe quite a few people thought it was too much for a player that young when he signed it. I believed Guerin must have known what he was doing. Given the team control of the first few seasons, I thought of it something like 3 years at $3M, followed by 4 years at $10M, so the final number definitely made sense for the Wild. With future cap changes, contracts should start to increase again. It was clear they could have caused themselves less financial pain in the short term, but that $3M+ in cap savings for those last 4 years will be significant in building a cup contender. JEE's deal might end up just as good given his value to the team and the cap savings that deal will have over many of those same years the Boldy deal is favorable for the Wild. Guerin has done a nice job providing solid long-term deals for high quality players that he trusts will deliver for many years. In the first 3 years of the contract, Boldy will receive over $25 million($17.7 in just the next 2 seasons), which is far greater than he would have received doing short-term restricted deals. Given the time value of money, having a majority of that contract early could very well be in his best interest. Assuming Boldy makes good decisions with that money, it's likely a good deal for both parties. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonlonster67 Verified Member Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, Imyourhuckleberry said: I believe quite a few people thought it was too much for a player that young when he signed it. I believed Guerin must have known what he was doing. Given the team control of the first few seasons, I thought of it something like 3 years at $3M, followed by 4 years at $10M, so the final number definitely made sense for the Wild. With future cap changes, contracts should start to increase again. It was clear they could have caused themselves less financial pain in the short term, but that $3M+ in cap savings for those last 4 years will be significant in building a cup contender. JEE's deal might end up just as good given his value to the team and the cap savings that deal will have over many of those same years the Boldy deal is favorable for the Wild. Guerin has done a nice job providing solid long-term deals for high quality players that he trusts will deliver for many years. In the first 3 years of the contract, Boldy will receive over $25 million($17.7 in just the next 2 seasons), which is far greater than he would have received doing short-term restricted deals. Given the time value of money, having a majority of that contract early could very well be in his best interest. Assuming Boldy makes good decisions with that money, it's likely a good deal for both parties. Huck, I share your sentiment on this, both blue collar kids who would go through a wall for you! You know both will do much with what they have because it didn't come easy, they had to work for it. Upbringing, character, hard work, and the love of the game of hockey, not the money! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonlonster67 Verified Member Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Bolds is one of my favorite young players. You could tell from the time he came up he was going to approach the game the right way. In the beginning the coaches and his peers had to tell him to shoot as he was giving the opportunities to the vets first. Time is on our side and he is still only 22 years old. Lets take the time capsule forward three years. At 602 and more than likely approaching a solid 215 lbs. with 300 games under his belt and a greater hockey sense improved....I'll take that. Boldy will be the beginning of our next Captains foundation along with EEK and possibly KK. The old guard will be out and the new guard will look a little different with a deep talent pool of three lines and a cup. "IBGIT" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCheatachu Verified Member Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Something that seems to be missed on the Boldy contract is that he's 22 years old. Under the CBA, a buyout for a player under 26 is only 1/3 of the value of the contract compared to 2/3 of the contract. Which means, they have the opportunity (for the next four years) to buy out the remaining years in his contract for roughly $2M/yr. Even if the Bolds turns into a complete dud (I don't see that happening) the downside to the team is really hedged by him being so young when they signed it.   1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Hein Hockey Wilderness Contributor Posted July 26, 2023 Author Share Posted July 26, 2023 20 hours ago, Imyourhuckleberry said: I believe quite a few people thought it was too much for a player that young when he signed it. I believed Guerin must have known what he was doing. Â Assuming Boldy makes good decisions with that money, it's likely a good deal for both parties. Thanks for reading! Boldy strikes me as the type of guy to spend his money on like, Legos and maybe take his friends out Go Karting lol. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Hein Hockey Wilderness Contributor Posted July 26, 2023 Author Share Posted July 26, 2023 20 hours ago, vonlonster67 said: In the beginning the coaches and his peers had to tell him to shoot as he was giving the opportunities to the vets first. Time is on our side and he is still only 22 years old. Lets take the time capsule forward three years. At 602 and more than likely approaching a solid 215 lbs. with 300 games under his belt and a greater hockey sense improved....I'll take that. Boldy will be the beginning of our next Captains foundation along with EEK and possibly KK. It's insane how young he is -- he'll probably only improve over the life of this contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Sims Hockey Wilderness Contributor Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Could've just given him a blank check and I'd have been happy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outskated Verified Member Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 In 3 years, that 7mm AAV will seem like the deal of the century. He's only going to get better and stronger as time goes for the next 5-6 years. Very happy we locked him up long term and that he wanted to be here.  2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 On 7/26/2023 at 8:31 AM, Justin Hein said: Thanks for reading! Boldy strikes me as the type of guy to spend his money on like, Legos and maybe take his friends out Go Karting lol. Everyone knows he pays for the foursome to go golfing! Then probably wins back all that money with his play! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Quote What’s especially interesting about this card is that it’s from the day the contract was signed, not today. Shortly after signing his $7MM x 7-year deal, Boldy went on a scoring tear, potting 19 goals and 15 assists over the final 39 games of the season. Much of this came with Kirill Kaprizov out due to injury, meaning that Boldy was the focal point of opposing defenses. This was the part of the article that I thought was really interesting. After Boldy signed his contract, he wasn't scoring, so the results weren't there. But, from the eye test, to me, it looked like he had more belief in himself, like he belonged. The contract validated him. I thought his effort, his chances, and his overall play went up a step after the contract was signed, he just didn't get the points. It wasn't until he was the focal point of the offense that he got really hot, and then cooled again when Kaprizov came back (perhaps more deferring). In training camp, I'd certainly like to try having Boldy-Ek-Kaprizov together on a line and just see what it looks like. Maybe you can get something better than the current Kaprizov line? Think about this combination, all are strong skaters and strong players, they win board battles, but have a much better tendency to score. If that works, then we need to find a 2nd scoring unit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up North Guy Verified Member Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 58 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said: In training camp, I'd certainly like to try having Boldy-Ek-Kaprizov together on a line and just see what it looks like. Maybe you can get something better than the current Kaprizov line? Think about this combination, all are strong skaters and strong players, they win board battles, but have a much better tendency to score. If that works, then we need to find a 2nd scoring unit. They really need to try it. The 2nd line though could be a very soft line. That would not work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 22 hours ago, Up North Guy said: The 2nd line though could be a very soft line. That would not work. It could be but it doesn't have to be. We need guys who will battle and compete, not softies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonlonster67 Verified Member Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 On 7/27/2023 at 10:13 AM, Up North Guy said: They really need to try it. The 2nd line though could be a very soft line. That would not work. Boldy EEk and JoJo will be our top line in stats and KK will probably carry the 1st line points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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