Wild Have Massive Advantage to Re-Sign Kirill Kaprizov, Thanks To New CBA

A point in the Wild's favor is an idea Russo brought up several times: playing without a contract and pulling a Gaborik and losing money.  The Wild are in the best position and need to break the bank for this guy ($14-16m).  The agent and player both know he's pretty much a god on roller skates for this franchise.  Any other, he's just "the next star player."

Even if he doesn't sign the career ending contract, you would still get Kap's prime locked up if they do 3-4.  Something tells me they'd still they would still be leaving money on the table risking short term.

Tough decision for Kaprizov, security or championship. Considering how much time he misses due to injuries, he'd be wise to sign a 8x$15M deal to finish his career with the Wild. If he wants a legitimate chance at a cup, he will have to go elsewhere. I have said this a few times before, but I would trade him now, while he's still worth something. The player the Wild would get in return would be near the same skill, and they would gain additional cap space to get another very good top six player. I have nothing against him, but if the Wild are ever going to be serious about winning a cup, they can't mortgage their future on one guy. Especially if he misses large chunks of the season.

How about adding Marner, Tavares, Ehlers, and maybe Knies too. They could probably do a sign and trade for Marner and include Tavares. I'm sure Tavares and Marner would love to stay together. Add in Spurgeon and Rossi to include Knies. Yes, it is possible....think bigger. Just a fun wish list, but the kind of thing that could be done if the fans and organization weren't so in love with specific players.

Grand Casino Arena huh?  Oh well.  Heard worse.

We just traded for Tarasenko for future considerations.  Maybe that is our big move.  

2 minutes ago, SkolWild73 said:

We just traded for Tarasenko for future considerations.  Maybe that is our big move.  

2 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

At least it is a Russian buddy for Kap…just probably not one of the ones you were hoping for

Just now, SkolWild73 said:

At least it is a Russian buddy for Kap…just probably not one of the ones you were hoping for

very true!

has to be a Kap type of move. There is no logic there unless it's to keep our superstar and keep him happy. Give him another comrade. 

i would much preferred one that can still actually play though.....

4 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

very true!

has to be a Kap type of move. There is no logic there unless it's to keep our superstar and keep him happy. Give him another comrade. 

i would much preferred one that can still actually play though.....

maybe he turns back time to 2022…Or maybe he is included in some other trade.  If we are keeping him, we won’t have enough money for Rossi and Boeser or Ehlers, unless we get them at a discount.

Just now, SkolWild73 said:

maybe he turns back time to 2022…Or maybe he is included in some other trade.  If we are keeping him, we won’t have enough money for Rossi and Boeser or Ehlers.

i think Vlady is here to stay. he also needs to play on one of the top line. 😞

otherwise...why? but overall just why?

he has not been the same for five years!

1 minute ago, OldDutchChip said:

i think Vlady is here to stay. he also needs to play on one of the top line. 😞

otherwise...why? but overall just why?

he has not been the same for five years!

I always try and find a positive and am struggling here.  I guess he is an upgrade over MOJO…yes?

1 minute ago, SkolWild73 said:

I always try and find a positive and am struggling here.  I guess he is an upgrade over MOJO…yes?

and there is no salary retention? and no pick going our way? this move may be the one to unite all of us!  💩

2 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

and there is no salary retention? and no pick going our way? this move may be the one to unite all of us!  💩

Nothing that I saw.  Well, if he can get to 55 points like he did in 23/24, maybe?  

6 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

very true!

has to be a Kap type of move. There is no logic there unless it's to keep our superstar and keep him happy. Give him another comrade. 

i would much preferred one that can still actually play though.....

What if this is an indicator of a another move happening? take away a spot from Trenin or Vinnie? He plays RW so doesn't affect NoJo, but what do they have in the way of guys who play RW? After Boldy and Zucc who is left? Maybe Hartman is he bumps out there for Yurov to take the center? Upside, its a one year, so him and Zuc drop off next year opening up over 8 mil plus NoJo makes 9. Haight is listed as a RW but is only 21, Vlad used as a possible place holder for the year if Haight steps up to get a spot 2nd half of year or next year as he is probably our best RW prospect? Not a big fan but with the RW prospect pool seemingly lacking I guess it makes sense looking at the lineup and prospect pool. Just glad they gave up "future assets" and not something that actually matters. Just don't do something dumb and sign him to an extension.

4 minutes ago, IllicitFive said:

What if this is an indicator of a another move happening? take away a spot from Trenin or Vinnie? He plays RW so doesn't affect NoJo, but what do they have in the way of guys who play RW? After Boldy and Zucc who is left? Maybe Hartman is he bumps out there for Yurov to take the center? Upside, its a one year, so him and Zuc drop off next year opening up over 8 mil plus NoJo makes 9. Haight is listed as a RW but is only 21, Vlad used as a possible place holder for the year if Haight steps up to get a spot 2nd half of year or next year as he is probably our best RW prospect? Not a big fan but with the RW prospect pool seemingly lacking I guess it makes sense looking at the lineup and prospect pool. Just glad they gave up "future assets" and not something that actually matters. Just don't do something dumb and sign him to an extension.

i think Vinnie is the odd man out. i believe trenin solidified his role this PO in Billy'd eyes and he stays. i'd much prefer for Stevie to retain half of the salary (was this another move where billy was in by himself and rushed to make it?)

but yeah - only a year and if this is what gives us a final checkmark for Kap to sign? could be worse - could be Kovy! oh well - welcome vlady .... now ship out Rossi for that other fella on the left and we got something!  🙂

Isn’t that precious. Billy is pretending to be a gm at his little table. 

A salary dump is our new x-mas present. There’s are scoring winger. Billy doesn’t seem to know how to make trades or out top prospects aren’t really worth what we think they are . Way to save money bill. 

1 hour ago, OldDutchChip said:

In Rodney We Trust

28 minutes ago, Dean said:

John King impersonating bill

5 hours ago, Citizen Strife said:

A point in the Wild's favor is an idea Russo brought up several times: playing without a contract and pulling a Gaborik and losing money.  The Wild are in the best position and need to break the bank for this guy ($14-16m).  The agent and player both know he's pretty much a god on roller skates for this franchise.  Any other, he's just "the next star player."

Even if he doesn't sign the career ending contract, you would still get Kap's prime locked up if they do 3-4.  Something tells me they'd still they would still be leaving money on the table risking short term.

Rumor is that KK97 wants a 3 year extension. It gives him the opportunity to cash in on the cap increasing and has an out if Billy can’t build a winner in 4 years.

1 hour ago, SkolWild73 said:

Nothing that I saw.  Well, if he can get to 55 points like he did in 23/24, maybe?  

If only we had a guy that could get 55 points or more!

17 minutes ago, FredJohnson said:

Rumor is that KK97 wants a 3 year extension. It gives him the opportunity to cash in on the cap increasing and has an out if Billy can’t build a winner in 4 years.

This would be absolute best case scenario.  Protects us from 8 years of abdomen/groin triage and gives 97 an out if this thing continues to slide sideways

1 hour ago, FredJohnson said:

Rumor is that KK97 wants a 3 year extension. It gives him the opportunity to cash in on the cap increasing and has an out if Billy can’t build a winner in 4 years.

I hope so.  Hopefully it’s a 3x$12-13mm deal.  This will really put the pressure on Billy to win in the next 2-3 years. I don’t want Kap for 7-8 years.  To hard to predict that far out. 

1 hour ago, FredJohnson said:

Rumor is that KK97 wants a 3 year extension. It gives him the opportunity to cash in on the cap increasing and has an out if Billy can’t build a winner in 4 years.

What rumor.

There is no rumor, only the musings of Russo. Who merely suggested, that that could be an option. And that was more as a way to put pressure on the organization to compete.

As it stands, if Kaprizov takes a short-term contract. He isn't taking advantage of the increasing cap at all. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Keep in mind, if Kaprizov wants to get the full potential of $110-120M contract. The only time he could get that much total on a contract is right now. Especially with the new cap increases. With the changes to the CBA, and the reduced term lengths that players can sign for starting next year. Kaprizov would have to sign for anywhere between $18-20M on his next contract to even get near that amount again.

Which, with all due respect to Kaprizov. Isn't happening.

The ONLY player being considered a $20M player right now is McDavid. And apart from Marner and McDavid, we haven't heard the possibility of wanting a short-term contract in regards to Kaprizov. Aside from Russo, thinking out loud.

Financially, and logically. It makes far more sense for Kaprizov to sign the 8-year contract now, with Minnesota,  while he still can. Not only would he be able to maximize the total amount earned over that timespan, his injury concerns of late give him extra incentive to do so.

1 hour ago, Pewterschmidt said:

This would be absolute best case scenario.  Protects us from 8 years of abdomen/groin triage and gives 97 an out if this thing continues to slide sideways

Maybe, but it's hardly the smart option for him.

Signing long-term now, would give him greater financial security if his injury concerns remain throughout. And also to maximize the total amount earned possible that he could make right now.

Signing short-term now, would only guarantee to leave future money on the table if he decided to go that route.

Because, while the AAV might well end up the same. The term length will be much reduced, bringing the total amount he could earn on a new contract way down.