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  • Marco Rossi Trade Rumors Have Continued

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    Thomas Williams

    By Thomas Williams -

    This summer is going to be an interesting one in Minnesota. The Wild are standing at a crossroads, having not made the playoffs but are starting to see the fruits of their labor on the draft floor. Marat Khusnutdinov has come over and looks like a surefire NHL talent, Liam Ohgren is starting his North American career, and Danila Yurov is most likely going to be here at some point next season.

    All of this young talent is now starting to be on the team, but one young center is at the center of trade rumors and his name is Marco Rossi.

    The Wild are reportedly open to the idea of trading the 22-year-old center in a "hockey trade" that would simply mean them getting a different young player that they prefer over Rossi. That isn't particularly clear as to whether or not a deal is going to get done, but Rossi's name has been recently linked to a couple teams.

    According to The Fourth Period's latest Trade Watch list, the teams that are reportedly interested in acquiring Rossi are the Philadelphia Flyers, Calgary Flames, Utah, Montreal Canadiens, and the Ottawa Senators. An interesting group of teams who certainly could use a young center like Rossi -- but the Wild can also, so we'll see where this goes.

    That's Wild

    • Speaking of young players, Michael Brandsegg-Nygard might be available for the Wild at pick No. 13 and he seems like a perfect player for what Bill Guerin likes in a forward. [Hockey Wilderness]
    • The Wild have announced the locations for their 2024 Block Party series. [NHL.com]

    Off the trail...

    • What a game last night was. The Oilers dragged the Florida Panthers back to Edmonton scratching and clawing after winning Game 5 and making this an interesting Final. [ESPN]
    • The Vancouver Canucks have re-signed defenseman Filip Hronek to a massive eight-year extension. Now, the dominos have started falling for what can be an interesting summer for the Canucks. [Sportsnet]
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    MrCheatachu

     

    Barclay Goodrow on waivers for purpose of a buyout.  Seems like the type of player that Guerin falls in love with.  Wrong side of 30, gritty proven playoff performer.

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    Willy the poor boy
    12 minutes ago, MrCheatachu said:

     

    Barclay Goodrow on waivers for purpose of a buyout.  Seems like the type of player that Guerin falls in love with.  Wrong side of 30, gritty proven playoff performer.

    He's probably a lock for the Wild if he'll accept an NTMC

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    mnfaninnc

    It would appear that Shooter has not gotten the offer he was looking for yet for Rossi. I maintain my position that Brady Tkachuk should be the target if Rossi is involved in a trade. Of course, it will cost more than Rossi.

    Out of the teams mentioned, I think Utah might have the best selection of players to trade with outside of Ottawa. They may not be proven players yet, but Rossi is not exactly proven either. He's had 1 nice rookie year, that isn't proving it just yet. 

    To me it's looking like Rossi is a conversation starter. I don't see what Montreal, Philadelphia, or Calgary can offer, unless they are trying to flip their 1st rounder with the Wild's 13 and obtain Rossi. 

    If this is their thinking, we're looking at 5, 6, 7, 9 & 12. And, this would mean it is likely that this would happen at the draft, and we'll see who is available starting at 5. It could be there is a player (s) that Shooter/Brackett are targeting in this draft. 

    I think the question boils down to would we trade Rossi to obtain Lindstrom? Silayev? Yakemchuk? or Michigan St. defender? Utah is 6th, and I could see us swapping Rossi +   13 for Utah 6 + prospect (about ready). I could see us doing the same with Montreal at 5. 

    It's also interesting that CBJ is not on the list. Perhaps Waddell simply has too much going on right now to be making trade calls?

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    mnfaninnc
    6 minutes ago, Willy the poor boy said:

    He's probably a lock for the Wild if he'll accept an NTMC

    Well, this is clearly a new designation! The combined No Trade Movement Clause.

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    Pewterschmidt
    28 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

    To me it's looking like Rossi is a conversation starter.

    I think this is what Guerin is thinking.  I like that he's leaving all-options-on-the-table for making the team better.  I don't think this is a way to run a railroad (hurting Rossi confidence, etc.).  Trading Rossi for this year's Lundell is an admission of failure in the Rossi pick.  Now if a Rossi package
    (incl. GUS) returns a higher than #13 2024 draft pick + a quality prospect(s) then I'll change my opinion on a Rossi trade.

    At this point, if I'm judging Guerin & Co (and I absolutely am.  Best part of being a fan) all this trade talk indicates cluster-f$%&ery within Guerin's organization.

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    Dango

    If teams want Rossi then they have to be the beggers and we get to be the choosers  ,  if it was with Utah we get their 1st rounder  and keep our own 1st rounder ,  they can have our 2nd or 3rd at most  .    

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    TheGoosesAreLooses

    Watch us trade Rossi for McBain lol. No one else fits. Maybe Dylan Guenther but he had a worse rookie year than Rossi did. Utah is a pretty small team, I don't see many targets of value.

    Sens might have some pull with the young talent they have there, I'm not sure how willing they will be to give up something good for Rossi. 

    I really hope we don't trade Rossi to move up in the draft. a 40pt rookie season for someone who could possibly be NHL ready in 1-2 years sounds like an awful big risk for what we have.

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    Tony Abbott
    1 hour ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    Trading Rossi for this year's Lundell is an admission of failure in the Rossi pick.

    Dude... Rossi just had what is objectively a better season than Lundell...

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    Tony Abbott

    Trading Marco Rossi as a sweetener to move up from, like 13 to 6 is so laughable to me. NHL scouts think the top half of the draft is more-or-less interchangable in talent after Picks 2-3. You'd end up trading Rossi in exchange for a lateral move, talent-wise. Can't imagine worse asset management.

     

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    Pewterschmidt
    12 minutes ago, Tony Abbott said:

    Dude... Rossi just had what is objectively a better season than Lundell...

    I'm not saying Rossi should be traded.  I want to keep Rossi.

    I'm saying that if Guerin trades Rossi for a draftee this year that is effectively what Lundell is now, that's a FAIL

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    Citizen Strife

    No player is untradeable, but Rossi has already proven a solid if not good, hard working player with the Wild's team.  I get the allure of hoping for something better; the issue is the other team has "the better" end of the deal.

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    Imyourhuckleberry

    I don't like the idea of trading Rossi, but will refrain any judgment unless a trade actually happens. If Guerin were in discussions to trade Rossi, Spurgeon, Heidt, and Stramel for Brady Tkachuk, I could understand listening to offers like that.

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    Citizen Strife

    Speaking of trades

    PLD for Kuemper (LA somehow dodged that bullet.  It's Washington's problem now)

    Markstrom to Jersey for a 2025 1st and Bahl


    Jersey just said "thanks but no thanks" to any Gus talk now.

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    Citizen Strife

    Rossi, Spurgeon, Heidt, and Stramel for Brady Tkachuk, I could understand listening to offers like that.

    Wanna give Ottawa everything else like a 1st or 2nd while you're at it?  That's too much, even if Heidt or Stramel don't amount to anything.  If either one does, Ottawa makes out like a fucking bandit.

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    Protec

    Too easy to inject fantasy to these rumors. We don't know nuthin. It's very much true Rossi in a hockey trade for a defenseman who makes the Wild better could be fine. A trade to take on Spurgeon's contract opening two spots and "now" money could pay off in landing a top UFA.

    I think Tony and others are right to say trading a proven young player on an ELC for draft picks is unheard of. That's as unlikely as getting Brady Tkachuk.

    There's no way to know how quickly guys will develop to NHL level outside of the Matthews, McDavid type players. Lundell has been very effective and is more valuable to a top team in his role versus Rossi who is capable of scoring 40pts but not everything else Lundell does like beat big defenseman physically along the boards to win possession or box Draisaitl out at the net-mouth.

    My bigger point in all of this is, you can't pick and choose stats to compare between guys. It's the overall in all categories. It could be the Wild see Rossi the same as us, but Guerin has a cross-eyed plan between his ears? It could also be that we've seen Rossi as a good guy to hang onto, but the Wild's evaluation shows a different look is needed? Rossi could stick with the Wild just fine too, regardless of preferences. Skating next to NoJo automatically makes you a more likable player. Anything's possible I suppose, but getting B.Tkachuk or trading Rossi for the 6th pick seem highly unlikely.

    The Markstrom trade is a perfect analogy. Young, big defenseman,(2nd Rd. pick) and a top-10 protected 1st for a reliable but expensive goalie. NJ had to give up some goods to get Markstrom at ~ 4.1M. For Minnesota to get an important player, they're going to have to give up some proven assets and perhaps a 2025 pick too. The part that irks me is, the UFA pool is so strong that trading Rossi now when his value is high must be for a good reason. Almost like the Wild have a specific plan that doesn't include Rossi for some reason. Is it his size, his health, his value as an asset, his fit with the group? It's a pretty interesting topic cause he's a good young player. Guerin's plans though, they're as difficult to decipher as which way Bill's eyeballs are looking. 🤪

     

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    Citizen Strife

    Guerin's plans though, they're as difficult to decipher as which way Bill's eyeballs are looking

    Maybe he isn't getting enough fiber?  I heard he eats pieces of shit like you for breakfast...

    *had to do it*

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    Imyourhuckleberry
    6 hours ago, Citizen Strife said:

    Wanna give Ottawa everything else like a 1st or 2nd while you're at it?  That's too much, even if Heidt or Stramel don't amount to anything.  If either one does, Ottawa makes out like a fucking bandit.

    I really don't want to give up a 1st or a 2nd. I thought it was more likely someone would say that's not enough than suggesting Ottawa was making out like a bandit. They wouldn't trade an all-star level player in his prime like Tkachuk without getting a nice return of offensive weaponry and Spurgeon's contract might be necessary to get the deal done.

    I really like Spurgeon, but as he goes into his age 35 season, history suggests he'll begin to fall off soon even if he comes all the back from injury.

    The thought of having Kaprizov, Eriksson Ek, Tkachuk, Boldy, Yurov, and cap space to add more next season(25-26) was interesting. In any case, I only said it was worth listening, I didn't say it was an absolute no-brainer.

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    Pewterschmidt
    52 minutes ago, Protec said:

    GMBG baby! For old times sake, back when ads for menstrual pads didn't block my entire site interface... 🫣

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    Today I’ve got a Hyatt regency double ad.  The ad that pops up at top of screen is the worst.  I’m ready the comments thru a mail slot, then the page reloads!?!?

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    B1GKappa97

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    I remember when there were rumors that Aleksander Barkov was going to be traded too and look where that's gotten Florida.. 

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