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  • Why Is Marcus Johansson So Frustrating To Watch?


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    Tony Abbott

    When you think of the most frustrating players in Minnesota Wild history, you'll find very few "bad" players on the list. It's difficult to be frustrating and actively bad. Fans aren't haunted by Eric NystromBrad StaubitzBrad Hunt, or Zenon Konopka's play. Those weren't particularly good players; if you expected more from them, that's on you.

    No, a player doesn't frustrate unless they have flashes of brilliance. You can't be disappointed in a player unless you can't see, at least in theory, how they could be productive. For the Chicago Blackhawks, Cam Barker was a big, point-accumulating defenseman. If it weren't for that, Wild fans would just be haunted by the cost to get him, Nick Leddy, and not that he looked like he'd never played hockey before once he stepped into the Xcel Energy Center.

    That's an extreme example, but it applies to other frustrating players who take residence in the State of Hockey's mind. John Klingberg was fine at running a power play and could exit the defensive zone well. There were things he did that worked. The problem was that he would often exit the defensive zone by returning to the bench after allowing a puck in the back of the net.

    Even in an older, close-to-broken-down state, how many players in Wild history were as talented as Thomas Vanek*? Has Kirill Kaprizov ever pulled off a goal quite this spectacular?

    If this was the Vanek we saw every night, his number would be in the rafters. Instead, there was also the Vanek we saw in his own zone. And also the one we saw in the neutral zone. He worked as a power play specialist over the next few years, but the Wild needed (and paid) him to be an even-strength player that he couldn't be.

    Marcus Johansson is rapidly hurdling toward all-time frustrating player status, and it's not that a player like him can't work with the Wild. It was unrealistic to expect his heater from last season's stretch run (six goals and 18 points in 20 games) to continue, but the player he was for Minnesota worked even outside the context of high shooting percentages.

    Johansson was a perfect third wheel to Matt Boldy and Joel Eriksson Ek, and that's no slight. His speed and ability to carry the puck into the offensive zone complimented Boldy and Eriksson Ek's game. Without the duties of bringing the puck into the zone, Boldy could find soft spots in scoring areas, knowing Johansson would find him. Eriksson Ek was free to forecheck and clean up rebounds. It was a perfect system.

    So much so that it made Bill Guerin forget all about the 2020-21 season, where Johansson scored 14 points in 36 games (out of a possible 56) and signed him to a two-year contract worth only $4 million.

    Are the Wild getting what they paid for, though? I'll go on record and say a hard: Probably? Johansson isn't having the kind of nightmare season Freddy Gaudreau is having, for example. Nine goals and 27 points in 64 games is underwhelming, but it's not nothing. Evolving-Hockey assesses his value as 0.7 Standings Points Above Replacement, which more or less lines up with his $2 million salary.

    So, speaking personally, why is Johansson so difficult to watch? 

    I'm sure some of this is recency bias. The Wild have gone 12-4-3 since the All-Star Break, but Johansson's been nowhere to be seen on the scoresheet, with just one goal and three points. Going back to the New Year, Johansson has played in 29 games and scored five goals and seven points. Nearly 30 games of invisibility will leave a bad taste in anyone's mouth.

    But extended periods of invisibility aren't anything new to Johansson, who is a pretty streaky player. We can break down his season into three movements:

    First 22 games: 1 goal, 7 points
    Middle 13 games: 3 goals, 12 points
    Last 29 games: 5 goals, 7 points

    That's a point-per-game sandwich but surrounded by 51 games of invisibility bread. It doesn't work this way, but if we remove those 13 games in the middle, Johansson's stat line would be six goals and 14 points. Jake Middleton (7 goals, 21 points) would be leading him in both categories. Connor Dewar (10 goals, 14 points) would pass him in goals, and Pat Maroon (4 goals, 16 points) would be ahead in points.

    Heck, without that little hot streak, Johansson would be trying to fend off Gaudreau (4 goals, 13 points) and Zach Bogosian (3 goals, 12 points). 

    It might not be totally fair to compare his stats without his best stretch. But it gives a glimpse of what Minnesota has missed from Johansson for most of the season, especially since having a second-line scorer for those 13 games helped the Wild get to the borderline playoff contention they're in now.

    Minnesota went 8-5 in that 13-game stretch and 8-3 before Kaprizov got hurt in Winnipeg. Johansson was instrumental in wins over the Calgary Flames (game-tying assist in the third period), Boston Bruins (opening goal), Montreal Canadiens (assist on overtime-winner), and Detroit Red Wings (two goals, three points). 

    We could see how Johansson could work as a productive member of the lineup. He can use his speed to create opportunistic scoring chances and has enough skill to dish out beautiful passes. Johansson's zone entries might not be the superpower they were last year, but he's still one of the better players on the team in that category.

    But way too often, it translates to not nearly enough scoring. At 5-on-5, Johansson has been on the ice for 30 goals for his team and 35 for his opponents. That deficit isn't quite as bad as his minus-12 makes it seem, but the Wild are still underwater with him at 5-on-5, scoring only about 46% of the goals.

    His scoring rate (2.19 goals per hour at 5-on-5) is in the lower half of the team, as is his goals allowed (2.57 per hour). He's at a break-even point when it comes to scoring chances, so you might expect his goal differential to rebound closer to a 50/50 split.

    Except Johansson has made the latter part of his career underperforming his expected goals. Here's how he's done every season since his first stint with the Washington Capitals ended:

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    At this point, it's a trend. You know what you're going to get with Johansson, and that's fewer goals than you'd otherwise expect. Maybe that's a top-six forward on paper. But in practice? It's been a drag on the team's second line all season.

    Because it has been all season that we've seen Johansson firmly entrenched in that second-line role. Yes, Johansson is seventh on the team among forwards in average time on ice (15:54). But when you look at his most common linemates this season, you'll get a feel for how absurd his opportunities have been relative to his scoring.

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    Playing with Johansson has been a drag on just about everyone's offense. It probably doesn't help that each player has between 20 to 45% of their 5-on-5 ice time with Kaprizov to heighten the contrast between playing with and without Johansson. But still, it's pretty damning that every single top-six forward has been better without Johansson.

    It's no coincidence that Marco Rossi and Mats Zuccarello sparked to life the second they moved away from Johansson. John Hynes juggled his lines in the third period on Saturday against the St. Louis Blues. In just 4:31 together at 5-on-5 (per Natural Stat Trick), the trio rewarded the switch with two goals, including Rossi's first tally in 13 games.

    Again, playing with Kaprizov is going to help anyone score. But no one should be surprised that Rossi looks like an impact player with an opportunity to play without Johansson (or fourth-liners Vinni Lettieri and Jake Lucchini).

    Johansson has had enough time in Minnesota across two stints to prove who he is. He's a player with a speedy element that you want on a team. He flashes scoring runs occasionally but is ultimately too frustrating to put in your top-six forward group regularly.

    The Wild are clawing for a second Wild Card spot. They're four points behind the Los Angeles Kings and Vegas Golden Knights and must leapfrog the St. Louis Blues to get that playoff position. They'll have to do this without Eriksson Ek (for now) because he's on the shelf with injury. Minnesota can't hold anything back. Hynes knows this. That's why he played Kaprizov and Boldy for over 24 minutes each on Saturday. It's crunch time; everything has to be on the table.

    But more importantly, the Wild can't have anyone holding them back. Unfortunately, Johansson has been holding back every impact forward this season. While their options are limited, they have one big card to play in Marat Khusnutdinov. Can we expect a rookie with only two games of NHL experience to suddenly step into a big role? It's tough to say, but the Wild similarly challenged Brock Faber last year, and it paid dividends.

    The counterpoint to any reservations about replacing Johansson with Khusnutdinov in the top-six is pretty simple: Can it get meaningfully worse? The Wild have gotten absolutely nothing from their second line since the All-Star Break. Johansson has been a constant in that role, and while Hynes might feel he knows what he's getting from the veteran, that's not a positive when he's consistently sub-par.

    It's time for a change, both to maximize Minnesota's upside and to reduce the frustrations of fans who are watching Johansson's line accomplish very little on a nightly basis.

    *Full disclosure: It's easy to understand why people were frustrated with Vanek, but on a personal level, I just think the dude was awesome. A decade later, I'm still ride-or-die with Rossi's former landlord.

    All data via Evolving-Hockey unless otherwise noted.

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    Gotta believe there are benchings coming. It is so passed the time for putting the best or at least guys with the most effort on the ice. I know NoJo has some kind of clause but if it isn't a no movement clause maybe NoJo goes on waivers (perhaps taking Freddie along). Time is past to see the kids get a chance to demonstrate what they have.

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    Mar. 12, 2024 Marcus Johansson is cleared to play.

    Mar. 3, 2024 Marcus Johansson has an injury to his lower body. The expected duration is unknown.

    Oct. 14, 2023 Marcus Johansson is cleared to play.

    Oct. 12, 2023 Marcus Johansson has an undisclosed injury. The expected duration is unknown.

     

    Everyone's favorite center, V1Ctor Rask, was never the same after he sliced his hand open in Raleigh.  I think FreddyG is still fighting through something after getting smoked by the Muffin Man this season.  I'm not convinced these guys who are 'frustrating' for us to watch aren't masking an underlying injury.  I think some of these guys are trying to rehab through injuries that arent severe enough to keep them on LTIR, but also hampering that razor-thin margin of talent/skill needed competing at the highest level in the NHL.

    Looking at the start of the season, I think both Kaprizov and Boldy were fighting through something that made them less impactful than we were expecting to see.

    Frustrating as a fan that we don't get perfect clarity to these guys health, but I also don't think, as a fan, I'm entitled to know that Freddy's shoulder bothers him when the barometer drops, or Mojo's ribs give sharp pain when he tries to not drop his stick.

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    At this point, either putting Foligno or Khusnutdinov with Rossi and Zuccarello probably fares better than anything they'd get with Johansson.  Foligno and Rossi played pretty well both times they were put together this season, and Khusnutdinov would offer either a defensive edge or potential scoring benefit.  I don't think Rossi or Khusnutdinov let their size define them that badly.  It's worth a chance if Johansson and Gaudreau are what they are: warm bodies for lower line duty.

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    At least they have moved Gaudreau down the lineup as he has failed to produce. I have trouble understanding why they haven't sent a message to Mojo. He is the only one in the top six in the negative in plus minus at a brutal -12. He rarely contributes to offence or is inconsistent at the best of times. Watching Hartman drop to the 4th line well Mojo got a free ride was mystifying. It is understandable why he would stick in the top 6 now that Ek is injured but he had no business being there well Ek is healthy. I would far rather a Hartman-Rossi-Zucc line or even a Foligno-Rossi-Zucc line than to see Mojo in the top six. The XGF rate above really shows how far he drags down those around him.

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    Nojo rarely steals the puck away from the opposing team.  He does a poor job of covering his point man in the D zone.  Nojo is supposed to be a great puck handler but it sure seems like he loses possession the majority of the time.  I've watched us dominate in the O-zone only to switch to his line and he gives up control and zone on the very next shift.  Every one of his line mates has to do the dirty work as he circles around.  

    As far as I am concerned he lost that game for us against the Blues by being out of position on the PK.  He needs to go or sit in the Pross Box.  IMO: He doesn't even belong on the 4th line.

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    47 minutes ago, MNCountryLife said:

    Nojo rarely steals the puck away from the opposing team.  He does a poor job of covering his point man in the D zone.  Nojo is supposed to be a great puck handler but it sure seems like he loses possession the majority of the time.  I've watched us dominate in the O-zone only to switch to his line and he gives up control and zone on the very next shift.  Every one of his line mates has to do the dirty work as he circles around.  

    As far as I am concerned he lost that game for us against the Blues by being out of position on the PK.  He needs to go or sit in the Pross Box.  IMO: He doesn't even belong on the 4th line.

    All of this. I'm not sure why they would put him on the ice in PK situations. He has poor defensive instincts, plays soft, and has weak puck possession.

    NHL.com indicates 33 goals for and 41 against with him on the ice Even Strength, and he's tied for the team lead with 4 short handed goals against despite spending far less time on the PP than a lot of other guys.

    He's a terrible fit on a checking line and might make line 4 too soft to play against as well, so they keep him on line 2 because there's no good place for him on any other lines.

    I honestly don't know how he looked as good as he did for that short time last season because he's never looked like that for the Wild any other years. I was disappointed when Guerin signed him, not because I thought $2M was way too much for what he'd just shown, but because I was certain that meant Nyquist wasn't coming back and I loved his game by comparison.

    I suspect Khusnutdinov will soon be given his special teams responsibilities.

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    Did the check that injured Gudas happen by him just being in Johansson's path like this gif?

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    Ducks defenseman Radko Gudas left the game in the first period with an upper-body injury after taking a check into the boards by Wild forward Marcus Johansson. Gudas did not return - 3/14/24

    I didn't see it, and cannot recall Johansson actually seeking contact.

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    Tortorella just healthy scratched Sean Couturier. If NoJo keeps getting ice my opinion of Hynes and Guerin goes down the tube. Assuming they want to win.

    Fred might be having a bad year but I don't see the lack of engagement or effort. Bad play, sure but not la-la-land like NoJo.

    If the Wild are trying to stealth tank, that's the only way it makes sense playing NoJo unless they think insulating Knudi or Beckman is important. I don't think that makes sense nor does the stealth tank seem realistic. 

    The NoJo contract made sense when he looked good for late last season. Now we remember all too well why we thought he sucked and didn't mind him getting injured against Vegas because the Wild went seven games against the Refs & Golden Knights. 

    NoJo has zero NHL credibility with me anymore. Zero. You can't decide when you're gonna play, that's bullshit and he's a bum for being like that, whether the salary is 2M or league minimum. 

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    Q: Why is Nojo so frustrating to watch? (Article title)

    A: NoJo sucks.

     

     

    That's the simple answer but I can actually deliver a much better summarization. He's not a hockey player's hockey player...

    What I mean is, he doesn't have all the qualities. Yes, I want a guy who can skate, and pass, and score. What I really want is a guy who does that but also blocks shots, stays out of the box, wins the individual battles, takes one for the team, draws a penalty, sticks up for a teammate, and generally has mental grit to match everything else so it generates a following by example. 

    That's lofty standard but where the bar should be set. NoJo, skates well and sometimes brings some offense. That's it, and gives Euros a bad reputation. He's done every cliché thing in MN twice.

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    Lineup for tonight:

    Kaprizov  Hartman Boldy
    Johansson Rossi Zuccarello 
    Foligno Marat Shaw 
    Beckman Lucchini Gaudreau

    Should be:
    Kaprizov Hartman Boldy
    Lucchini Rossi Zuccarello 
    Foligno Marat Shaw 
    Johansson Gaudreau Beckman

    Then shorten the box to the top 3 lines for the majority of the game.  This keeps Johansson and Gaudreau off the ice.  

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    For me, the frustrating thing is seeing the speed and stickhandling into the zone followed by an unforced error. Sometimes you just wonder what he's thinking? I get that same vibe from Boldy too as he's often just too weak on his stick.

    Also, Johansson is one of the bigger bodies on the team but folds like a house of cards when someone is in sneezing distance of him. Then he looks completely bewildered at the bench as to what happened, which, usually, has him retrieving his stick just before heading there. This guy has no balance if touched and he should. He has no ability to finish either, even when given grade A chances. Sometimes, it looks like he's lost confidence in himself as the last person who had any confidence in him. 

    When I was in college, I had a 3 year stint around the St. Louis area where the Cardinals had a guy named "Joggin'" George Hendrick. He never seemed to put in any effort but that was simply the way he ran. He was noticeably picked on by the fans of the area and watching on tv, you could see why. Johansson reminds me of Hendrick where he's just in easy gear the whole time. His role and why he is paid $2m is to speed up, carry the puck in and distribute it to a teammate. At that point, his usefulness is done, and he really doesn't know what to do next either. 

    What I'd like to see is him get benched and explained why he's being benched. Keep in mind, in the last 2 games he's actually thrown a hit, a nice one on Gudas. So, he'll need to know why he's eating nachos. But, I'd like to see a hungry Beckman get a chance instead. And for all the promise Beckman has, he's got to be more physical and he's got to win battles. And he's got to play like he wants that position and doesn't want to go back to the A. 

    Johansson also needs to know that an NTC is not an NMC and he can be put on waivers to head to Iowa. Anyone at that point can pick him up, so if he has a destination he'd like to go to, perhaps Guerin can accommodate him. You've got to look like you're trying and so many nights he just doesn't have that look.

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    5 hours ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

    I didn't see it, and cannot recall Johansson actually seeking contact.

    It looked like he apologized to him after the hit too, but it was on purpose.

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    10 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

    It looked like he apologized to him after the hit too, but it was on purpose.

    Just another example of how NoJo is a loose cannon out there. Somebody thinks he's doing something but he's literally just going on the ice and making mistakes with such laziness that he's even hurting guys accidentally on purpose. Total blowbag!

    In 15mins of TOI last night against the Ducks #90 was the least productive forward if you look at the box score. No points, no shots, no hits. He got a +1 somehow but Beckman, Lucchinni, Shaw, Knudi, and Rossi all hadmuch better games. NoJo took a penalty too. He sucks, Bill! He eff'n sucks!

    Every single game is this way... "But Protec, He's 55 CORSI", they say. GTFOH, this guy sucks! Give Beckman more ice! I don't wanna wish injuries on guys, but I want NoJo gone. Just buy out the contract and admit he's worthless in the NHL.

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    Classic Euro. Plays hard for two months, gets a new contract. Proceeds to be a lazy pile of shit picking up passenger-points on the 2nd line cause he scored 57 points once back in 2017. 

    He's had a couple two-point games this year otherwise for all that TOI he's basically a total non-factor. If Guerin should be ashamed it should be for this. If players are being blocked from TOI or an NHL chance in the top six, it's because of this. If Hynes and Guerin are good at their jobs, than I cannot believe it with this assbag in the lineup.

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    17 hours ago, Will D. Ness said:

    Let's put Freddy and Nojo on the 4th line with Beckman.

    Ek comes back as 1C. Hartman with Rossi and Zucc.  Foligno and Shaw with the Whoos Nut.

    Fourth Line Fred has such a nice ring to it 

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    1 minute ago, Luke Sims said:

    If Torts can healthy scratch Sean Couturier Hynes can bench JoJo 

    That's what I'm talking about. Just look at the last five games. Worthless, pointless, gutless. Are we gonna hang our hat on his injuring a guy with a bad judgment boarding that went uncalled? 

    Uh, Player Safety can you please suspend NoJo retroactively for 13 games please???

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    I figured out how to rationalize it boys. Use this to reduce cartoon-steam from blowing out your ears and diminish redness of the face...

    As long as NoJo is doing 2nd line minutes metaphorically passed out in the back seat, young players will perform like a contract-year cause NoJo becomes a benchmark for them. The AHL guys or clever Russian can look amazing by comparison.

    I'm turning the page. Let's make it a positive. Jokes and memes incoming...

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    Was Johansson frustrating to watch last night? Yes he was. Sometimes you talk about "fit" for a player, and what it looks like is Johansson is on a different page than the rest of the team. 

    You expect him to zig and he zags. He also does a lot of skating drills around the perimeter, not really going into areas which would require physicality. Watching him with a little more attention (mainly because he's usually invisible) you could see how he often simply gets lost, and even the cameras don't pick him up. 

    He's only got a couple of moves, but once he gets in the zone, he carries the puck around the perimeter looking for someone driving the net. If he doesn't get that, he's toast and doesn't know what to do. Then some bully comes up and steals his lunch money (the puck). 

    Note to Beckman: If you want that spot, Johansson doesn't like to take the body against anyone. However, against his better judgment, he has done so in the past 3 games, while last night they didn't get registered as hits. Start taking the body along with the rest of your game and you have a very good shot at taking that spot. 

    Also, during the 2nd period, Johansson went down to line 3 with Dino. While Dino looked pretty good, again Johansson got lost. One thing might work, on the team, only Dino can keep up with Johansson's speed. This might work. Also, Dino played the "get back on defense" card very well last night.

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