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  • What Would A Post-Kaprizov Minnesota Wild Team Look Like?


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    Tony Abbott

    In the aftermath of Kirill Kaprizov turning down the largest contract in NHL history from the Minnesota Wild, fans in the State of Hockey are now facing the unthinkable: A Wild team without their franchise's only superstar.

    With this news cycle being raw, the big questions are, Will this get done? or What do the Wild do with Kaprizov? But lost in that discourse is a bigger question.

    What even ARE the Wild without Kaprizov?

    The easiest answer is that they go back to where the franchise was before: Irrelevant to the NHL landscape. We got a sneak preview of it for half of last season. The Wild were 21-17-3 in games without Kaprizov, which would have put them on a 90-point pace that would have kept them out of the playoff bubble.

    If that repeated itself next year, the Wild would not just not make the playoffs, but finish well out of the Draft Lottery range. In that case, re-loading with Gavin McKenna would be a long shot.

    The timing of losing Kaprizov would be devastating. The Wild are finally entering their contention window and are built to win in the next three years. Past that time, veterans like Jonas Brodin, Jared Spurgeon, Marcus Foligno, and perhaps even Joel Eriksson Ek may age out of being real pieces of a contending team. Meanwhile, players currently on cheap contracts -- Zeev Buium, Danila Yurov, David Jiříček, and Liam Öhgren -- should see their salaries skyrocket.

    We can be pretty sure that Minnesota's ambitions to win won't slow down, even with Kaprizov gone. General manager Bill Guerin spent four years taking a step back to try moving forward with the Zach Parise and Ryan Suter buyouts. He won't want to keep going backwards, and maybe can't afford to do so. 

    So, assuming the Wild forge ahead, Guerin will build this team around their next-best player. For now, Matt Boldy is the favorite to hold that title, who is at an interesting crossroads in his career. On The Athletic's recent NHL Player Tiers list -- a ranking heavily influenced by members of NHL coaching staffs and front offices -- Boldy landed at the top of Tier 3. He's at the exact dividing line between "NHL All-Star" and "Franchise Player."

    To give some context to what that actually means, the three forwards above him in Tier 2C are William Nylander, Artemi Panarin, and Sam Reinhart, and the three below him in 3A are Jake Guentzel, Brandon Hagel, and Seth Jarvis. You can build an offense around the 2C guys, probably not so much with the 3A.

    Whether Boldy can move up into that Franchise tier, we'll save for another day. But if he does, he's on par with Panarin and Sebastian Aho, who are the best forwards on the New York Rangers and Carolina Hurricanes, respectively.

    Zeev Buium is the only other major contender for the Wild's top player. The rookie defenseman is a consensus top-10 prospect and enters the season as a leading candidate for the Calder Trophy. Should he win it, he'd join Kaprizov as the only two in Wild history to win a major player award. 

    That'd only be the beginning of overtaking Boldy as the focal point of a Kaprizov-less team, though. When we look at the top defensemen in the league -- Cale Makar (Tier 1A), Quinn Hughes (1B), Rasmus Dahlin (2A), Miro Heiskanen (2A), Zach Werenski (2B), Evan Bouchard (2C), and Adam Fox (2C) -- all but Werenski were putting up 70-plus point seasons by their third full season. If that's Buium by Year 3, then we're talking about him being in a similar tier.

    Unfortunately, if either Boldy or Buium takes that leap without the other, it's not a great recipe for success. The Wild spent the past five seasons being a team built around a better winger than Boldy, and it's only given them four playoff appearances, all lost in the first round.

    The Ottawa Senators had the best defenseman on the planet in 2016-17 with Erik Karlsson, and he and Mark Stone (a decent analogue for current-day Boldy) could only drag a ho-hum to the Eastern Conference Finals, losing to Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin's Pittsburgh Penguins.

    But the two of them hitting that franchise player-type level? We can see some examples of consistent success.

    The New York Rangers have spent the past four seasons with Panarin and Fox, and those two, being their best players (along with elite goalie Igor Shesterkin), were able to reach the Eastern Conference Finals twice in three years before falling off last season. If Filip Gustavsson can continue to deliver the kind of numbers he did last year (.914 in the regular season), Boldy and Buium could give Minnesota a similar team dynamic.

    But the ideal scenario for the Wild would be duplicating something like what the Dallas Stars have going on. They have two franchise players, at both forward (Mikko Rantanen, Tier 2B) and defense (Heiskanen, 2A), backed up by a young, gifted supporting cast. Thomas Harley (3A), Jason Robertson (3A), Jake Oettinger (3C), Wyatt Johnston (4A), and Roope Hintz (4B) are all between the ages of 22 and 28. 

    Minnesota can do this if a lot of things go right. Brock Faber (4B) is a player who can be part of a core like Dallas has, but players like Marco Rossi, Jesper Wallstedt, Yurov, Jiříček, and Öhgren have work to do before getting to that level. And still, the team has no chance of replicating Dallas' model if Boldy and Buium can't get to being franchise-type players.

    But without that Tier 1 player in Kaprizov's, what's that team's ceiling? The Stars have had a lot of success in the past two seasons. They made the Conference Finals both years, which beats the Wild for their franchise's history. However, they were thwarted in six games both times. Maybe the Stars will break through. Still, until that happens, it's hard to ignore the fact that they don't have an MVP-type player at the top of their lineup.

    Until the Wild trade him, Minnesota does. And all of the things we laid out about the team are true if Kaprizov stays in Minnesota. A lot would have to go right for the Wild to hit that championship level, of course. However, Kaprizov's presence gives them a hell of a head start, and losing him means the team's margin for error drops to zero. There may be life without Kaprizov, but losing him will be devastating to the team's ceiling, no matter what else breaks Minnesota's way.

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    Kaprisov likes playing in Minnesota 

    But people should get real .

    Any 100million + contract is certainty more complicated then a return flight from Moscow 

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    There are some distinct differences from the post-Gaboeik years to what a post-Kaprizov situation would look like.

    Post-Gaborik

    - Koivu and Backstrom were pretty good, but the forward and defensive lines were riddled with meh.

    40-60 pt player peaks, with 20s-40s mixed in.

    Young guys were very...VERY underwhelming.  Took a few years for Granny, Brodin, and Dumba to show up.

    Post-Kaprizov

    - Boldy is a better winger than anything post Gaborik had.  Probably same level as a Parise even.

    - Brodin, Spurgeon, Faber

    - Buium might be a better prospect than anything the Wild had for those few years.

    - Gus is almost as good as Backstrom was.

    - $15-18m NOT to spend on one guy.  Maybe someone in FA will take a chance, or even 2-3 with that money.

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    Kaprisov is one of the most dynamic players in the NHL but he isn't one of the top 5 and probably not in the top 10 overall.

    Why? His defense is meh, his playoff productivity is meh and he is an injury risk to say the least. 

    I think the Wild are better off without KK and having 16 million in additional cap space.  The Patriots built the most significant sports dynasty in the last 40 years by NOT overspending on players and prioritizing WINNERS!

    KK has every right to squeeze as much money out of the team as he likes but its obvious that winning is a low priority. You can't win a title without superstars who are 100% committed to winning. 

    If he turned down the contract (and we don't know its true) because he wants more money, I say trade him ASAP.

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    Pewter’s Prospect Prognostications:
    If you were hoping for yurov to make a contribution this season, you’re going to be disappointed.  Think Rossi in his first 19 games (1 pt).  Nothing dynamic.  No dawg.  No vision.  Punted the puck more than once.  And this is against 18&19 year old invitees.  He’ll get TOI with big club but it won’t be pretty. 
    Haight showed a pulse tonight but he’s not ready either.  Heidt is less ready than Haight. 

    Benak again stood out.  Assisted on game winner.  Stole puck on offensive end board and silver plattered it for a tap in.  Kid is our Stankoven.  Coaches put him on 1st line with yurov and Haight today. 
    Amidovski looks like he could become a middle six forward. Good size and scored again today on a breakaway he created.  
    Masters is a big body but I’m not sure he’s got ‘it’ to make pro.  

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    The team will be what it has been for 25 years.  Good enough to make the playoffs but probably not good enough to matter in the playoffs.  The young kids should keep the team relevant.  Gus and Wallstedt will win games on their own.  Defense will be solid and probably more offensive than ever.  The Wild will still need elite centers.  Those don't come along often and when they do you usually have to draft in the top 5.  Which I don't think the Wild will ever do with this ownership.  So they will be good enough to make the playoffs forever.  Just not good enough to matter. 

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    39 minutes ago, Scalptrash said:

    Guerin won't be here if Kaprizov isn't re-signed. Good luck getting another GM gig as well.

    On this we agree. Bully has one job. (Misspelling is intentional)

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    4 hours ago, Patrick said:

    If he turned down the contract (and we don't know its true) because he wants more money, I say trade him ASAP.

    How to you know ?

    Believe it has nothing to do with money or term 

    There is simply no urgency for him .

    Good start to season is miles more important 

    Also I do think that head coach will not see end of season

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    15 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    Pewter’s Prospect Prognostications:
    If you were hoping for yurov to make a contribution this season, you’re going to be disappointed.  Think Rossi in his first 19 games (1 pt).  Nothing dynamic.  No dawg.  No vision.  Punted the puck more than once.  And this is against 18&19 year old invitees.  He’ll get TOI with big club but it won’t be pretty. 
    Haight showed a pulse tonight but he’s not ready either.  Heidt is less ready than Haight. 

    Benak again stood out.  Assisted on game winner.  Stole puck on offensive end board and silver plattered it for a tap in.  Kid is our Stankoven.  Coaches put him on 1st line with yurov and Haight today. 
    Amidovski looks like he could become a middle six forward. Good size and scored again today on a breakaway he created.  
    Masters is a big body but I’m not sure he’s got ‘it’ to make pro.

    No comment on Buium or Peart?

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    11 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

    No comment on Buium or Peart?

    Z Boo didn’t play. 

    undersized Peart got pushed around.  In first game stl chopped stick out of his hand in d-zone and scored 20 sec. later while Peart was flailing around with no stick.  This kid could sleep in weight room for next 3 years and still not be nhl ready.  You’re gonna need to let this one go mnfan.  I’ll help you do that  

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    1 minute ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    undersized Peart got pushed around.  In first game stl chopped stick out of his hand in d-zone and scored 20 sec. later while Peart was flailing around with no stick.  You’re gonna need to let this one go mnfan.  I’ll help you do that

    Does this mean that P-Scout is calling Peart a bust? Time to trade him out for a grizzly bear? 

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    7 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    Let it go MNFAN.  Let it go.

    Some of these guys are still "prospects" and we need to treat them as assets. Can Peart get us or be packaged with something that can get us something useful? 

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    20 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

    Some of these guys are still "prospects" and we need to treat them as assets. Can Peart get us or be packaged with something that can get us something useful? 

    I can’t make the point any clearer. Let it go. 

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    51 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said:

     

    undersized Peart got pushed around. 

    I want some big bruiser, playoff hockey style bulk -  Guerin

    I draft undersized guys -  also Guerin

    We have a five year plan-  Guerin

    What is it?-  Wild fan base

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    As long as we’re piling on undersized players:

    haight

    heidt

     and (gasp) yurov

     are all fun-sized skaters

    Benak is fun-sized mini but he got that dawg in him and his hockey sense and hands are elite.  You know how whenever 97 gets in trouble he’s always able to put puck on teammates stick.  Never eats the puck or punts it.  Benak has that skill too.  Cool as cucumber out there.  

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    4 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    Benak is fun-sized mini but he got that dawg in him and his hockey sense and hands are elite.  You know how whenever 97 gets in trouble he’s always able to put puck on teammates stick.  Never eats the puck or punts it.  Benak has that skill too.  Cool as cucumber out there.  

    Sure looked that way against the kids. Going to be fun watching him in Juniors. Wonder if he will go the NCAA route after one year up north.

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    4 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    As long as we’re piling on undersized players:

    haight

    heidt

     and (gasp) yurov

     are all fun-sized skaters

    Benak is fun-sized mini but he got that dawg in him and his hockey sense and hands are elite.  You know how whenever 97 gets in trouble he’s always able to put puck on teammates stick.  Never eats the puck or punts it.  Benak has that skill too.  Cool as cucumber out there.  

    Now someone will say (probably strife or mnfan) the wild pr dept has them listed a 6’X” for yurov and 5’11” for Haight…. Well this fan will say they play a game very similar to Rossi.  

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    I love to say what we shoulda done in the draft. So here it is again. Shoulda taken somebody else with the 2nd round pick the Wild used for Peart. Knies, or Blake woulda been better with a Minnesota connection and coulda easily been scouted just as well as the smallish defender. 

     

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    26 minutes ago, NoJoSux said:

    Shoulda taken somebody else with the 2nd round pick the Wild used for Peart. Knies, or Blake woulda been better with a Minnesota connection

    2021 Draft

    Peart at 54th pick

    Knies at 57

    Blake at 109th

    I wish I didn't now know this.

    And this guy at 136th

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    I never really talk about anyone's size as a detriment.  Size has its place and benefits, but give me talent.  If they have talent, it can leap off the screen.

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