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    Justin Hein

    Marco Rossi is a hockey blogger’s dream. Drafted 9th overall, he was undersized but supremely skilled. That combination made him a content factory. Following the draft, Rossi experienced life-threatening complications from COVID-19 and has gritted his way back to a development path typical of a top-ten draft pick. 

    Even during that development, he’s been reluctantly embroiled in quotes about needing more “F-you” in his game. He responded with two herculean offseasons, staying in Minnesota, thousands of miles from his home in Austria, and missing his sister’s wedding in 2023. 

    He’s answered every question about his 5-foot-9 frame by dominating at the offensive net-front this season, establishing himself as a top-six forward at just 23 years old. He commands the love of fans and the thousands of words that have already been published about his young NHL career. 

    Because so much ink has been spilled figuring out what Marco Rossi is, the typical content has fallen by the wayside. With his contract up for extension this summer, it’s time to dive into another blogging mainstay. 

    How much money will Rossi demand in his next contract? 

    Marco Rossi is a restricted free agent this summer. That means that if another team offers him a contract, the Wild have the right to match the contract. If Minnesota chooses not to match the offer, the other team must provide draft compensation to the Wild based on the average annual value (AAV). A higher AAV means higher draft compensation. 

    That dynamic depresses Rossi’s market value because his value to any team besides the Wild is his on-ice value minus the value of the draft compensation. For example, if the Chicago Blackhawks offered Rossi four years at $7 million AAV and the Wild refused to match it, Chicago would give Minnesota their 2027 first- and third-round picks. 

    So, Chicago would need to consider Rossi to be worth the value of the $7 million salary cap hit, plus the value of those two picks. 

    That leaves us with a basic math problem. What is Rossi’s on-ice value against the salary cap, and what’s the value of those two picks? 

    The Athletic’s Dom Luszczyszyn has produced a robust analytical model that can help answer the first question. The diminutive Austrian has been extremely effective at five-on-five this season, driving a $7.8 million market value. 

    Rossi Athletic PLayer Card Feb 2025.JPG

    That’s a significant jump from last year’s performance -- about a 65% improvement. Part of that is a 5.4% increase in the salary cap, which drives up every player’s market value in the model by that amount. However, the rest of it is based on Rossi’s play. That raises a major core question: 

    Is this season an outlier? 

    Rossi Athletic PLayer Card 2023-24.JPG

    It makes sense that a 22-year-old rookie would make significant strides in his age-23 season, but how much is sustainable? Rossi’s goals and assist numbers are in the 81st and 84th percentile, while his xGoals (a measure of scoring chance quality) are only in the 70th percentile. 

    That could indicate that he’s due for some regression, but it can also suggest that he’s a skilled passer and finisher. That type of player improves the value of scoring chances for himself and his teammates -- generally the kind of player you’d like to have in your organization. 

    Perhaps this is one of the sticking points that has made negotiating Rossi’s deal so complicated. From one lens, the Wild might see him as the top-ten draft pick they hoped for: a skilled player with a nose for the net. However, from an analytical lens, there is reason to suspect Rossi has been running hot in this breakout year and is due for some future regression. 

    So, let’s cool that $7.8 million number off. $7 million seems fair -- it encapsulates Rossi's growth from last year but leaves room for regression. But speaking of year-over-year growth, how much should the Wild predict Rossi to improve in the next few seasons? 

    Projecting player growth is not a perfect science, especially when working with only two seasons of NHL data. Luszczyszyn hasn’t published his model’s projection for Rossi’s aging curve, but we can work backward from his model of Boldy’s age curve to get a rough estimate. 

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    Again, these numbers aren’t just based on Boldy’s development and aging. They also include old salary cap projections. Separate Boldy’s projection from salary cap changes and adjust for updated cap estimates, and we can tack that onto Rossi’s estimated current value of $7 million. 

     I also shifted Boldy’s timeline forward by a full year so that the increases corresponded to the number of years after each player’s draft, respectively. One notable issue with this method is that while Boldy was drafted a year earlier than Rossi, he’s only six months older. This projection may be overly optimistic about Rossi’s future development. To stay on the safe side, I’ll lean into the $7 million current value going forward rather than the $7.8 million. 

    Rossi Contract Proj 1.JPG

    So, that gives us a good estimate of Rossi’s on-ice value against the salary cap. All that’s left to do to project the actual contract price is to consider the value of draft compensation. 

    We can use Brock Faber’s contract to estimate the value of the draft compensation in a Marco Rossi offer sheet. When he signed, Faber gave up an estimated $13.6 million of surplus salary cap value. 

    Faber’s $8.5 million AAV complicates this math, though. An offer sheet at that AAV would cost another team a first-, second-, and third-round pick, while Rossi seems unlikely to reach the $7.21 million AAV necessary for that threshold. Using past draft pick trade values, we can estimate that a first- and third-round pick is about 82% of the value of Faber’s theoretical offer sheet compensation. 82% of $13.6 million is about $11.15 million. That’s how much Rossi’s RFA years suppress his market value. 

    Finally, 900 words later, we have enough to estimate a four-year contract for Marco Rossi. His on-ice production should be worth about $39.94 million, and his RFA market should be about $11.15 million below that. Averaged across four years, that’s exactly a $7.20 million AAV. Any higher than that, and the draft compensation would force his AAV lower. 

    That number may also end up higher than Rossi’s four-year deal. Bill Guerin has indicated as much based on Michael Russo’s recent reporting. “If Rossi’s looking for a long-term deal in the $8 million range, that could be the type of contract Guerin has no appetite in signing him to,” he wrote in early February. “Same thing if he’s seeking a Quinton Byfield-like bridge deal (five years at $6.25 million per).” 

    Some of that might be posturing. Ultimately, it’s Guerin’s job to sign Rossi as cheaply as possible, and 31 other GMs are working alongside him in a fight against the rising tide of NHL contracts in light of massive upcoming salary cap projections. Byfield’s deal looked absurdly team-friendly by Luszczyszyn’s model at the time of signing, and that was before reports of the impending cap explosion. 

    The Los Angeles Kings drafted Byfield in the same year as Rossi and extended him a year sooner, which only makes value more favorable by comparison. Still, it’s also notable that Byfield’s production this year has not lived up to his 2024-25 projection from the $8.6 million at the time of signing. 

    Byfield Athletic PLayer Card Feb 2025.JPG

    Let’s also get back to that other nugget from Russo about a long-term contract. What could a longer contract look like for Rossi? 

    Guerin has struck gold on two similar contracts in the past. Brock Faber and Matt Boldy’s eight-year deals are trending toward some of the best in the NHL. Boldy’s contract has consistently paid dividends, which will kick into overdrive with the rapidly expanding salary cap. 

    Like Byfield, Faber has underperformed his projection this year, but the future cap increases seem to have balanced that problem. Furthermore, his two-way play style fits exactly what NHL teams crave and the defensive style that Hynes and Guerin seem intent on playing in Minnesota. 

    Guerin has given the public impression that he’d like to wait and see more from Rossi before making a long-term commitment; however, it’s hard to imagine that he would oppose a long-term contract like the one he signed with Boldy and Faber. 

    The lack of comparables is part of the trouble with projecting Rossi’s long-term value. After 2030-31, we run out of Boldy projections off which to piggyback. The numbers we used to estimate Rossi’s four-year value already include several assumptions, but more are necessary to derive an eight-year estimate. 

    For those seasons, let’s assume that Rossi’s age-related in 2031-32 and 2032-33 is about equal to 3% cap inflation. 

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    The final years of that contract would be worth $45.7 million. Add Rossi's first four years at $18.79 million, and that’s a $9.3 million AAV. 

    Under this type of deal, Rossi would likely accept a below-market rate, given the security it offers. After all, he’s brushed with career-threatening illness before. On top of that, Faber and Boldy likely signed their deals with the same dynamic in mind. Maybe that $9.3 million AAV could get chipped down to $8.5 or $8 million. 

    But, if Guerin really is opposed to $8 million per year on an eight-year contract, perhaps there’s no long-term deal to be had. It’s a tough sell for any agent to give up so much just for the sake of security. Rossi is playing at an unbelievable level in a contract year. If Guerin wants to see more from the player, and the player wants a chance to prove this year isn’t a fluke, a four-year bridge contract might be more appealing to both parties. 

    It also makes sense for Minnesota to minimize Rossi’s contract in the short term. The organization wants to win a championship between this year and 2026-27. They’ve already committed to long-term contracts for Boldy and Faber, effectively increasing their AAV during RFA seasons to lower their overall cap hit. 

    The team has enough budget to afford a Kaprizov extension, but it will take up a lot of cap space. Furthermore, deals for aging players like Jake Middleton, Marcus Foligno, Mats Zuccarello, Ryan Hartman, and Yakov Trenin are expensive win-now moves. There will likely be more such contracts this offseason if the rumors of Brock Nelson and other free agents are true. 

    All of these reasons suggest keeping Rossi cheap now and planning for an expensive payday after a four-year deal. 

    No term is off the table. Guerin has done well on long-term deals with budding stars before. However, the team may squeeze Rossi’s contract for short-term gains to maximize the team’s Stanley Cup window. Both plans have their merits. 

    With any luck, this offseason will keep Rossi around for a long time. Failing that, he will at least become a key contributor to what the Wild hope is a historic era in franchise history. 

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    If Guerin doesn't like the 5-year $6.25M deal for Byfield, why would he be interested in an 8-year deal at $8M per year? I could see a 4-year deal with a $6.25M average. That would put Rossi into his prime for his next deal while still collecting a lot of money before that huge payday.

    I don't see Guerin offering a long-term deal that pays Rossi a higher average than Boldy.

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    *can't edit, bleh*

    Guerin had ample time to get a cheaper deal done while deals like Guenther, Beniers, and Laf were resetting the market.  Rossi used this season and the cap increase to supercharge his asking price.

    There is a upper limit that sounds feasible, but Rossi is making his case for more money by the day.

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    4 years at 6.5 would be best outcome. but wait and see how the season shakes out. it's one thing to have good numbers mid season but it's another to lead the team in the PO. i am not sold either Rossi or Boldy can be that number 2 for Kap (at least this year). So let's wait and see what happens in the POs.

    our matchup is likely Dallas - so that be a very good barometer for Rossi worth. then asses him and pick the best course forward. we are talking here about our #1C to pair up with Kap. Even if Rossi is not that - the money could be used to get someone who is. So tying it up with Rossi - if he is not the one - is not the smartest. 7+MM for Rossi and another 4-5 MM for Nelson - that would be 11/12 if not more $ to throw at legit 1C. 

    so again - evaluate Rossi when it matters - in the PO (same for Boldy) - then use your brain Billy and pick the right course for the team.  

     

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    I would love the 3–4-year deal at 6-6.5.  The 8 for $8m deal would certainly be more of a gamble, but if he performs, then it would be worth it.  It will be interesting to see how we handle it.  

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    1 hour ago, OldDutchChip said:

    so again - evaluate Rossi when it matters - in the PO (same for Boldy) - then use your brain Billy and pick the right course for the team. 

    Even if Boldy is a no-show this year I just don't see Billy trading him 2yrs into his deal whether any of us like it or not.

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    10 minutes ago, M_Nels said:

    Even if Boldy is a no-show this year I just don't see Billy trading him 2yrs into his deal whether any of us like it or not.

    sure, he may not. but as a smart GM - he has to evaluate everything/everyone to make the team better. and boldy is a part of the team and should be evaluated. i suppose all are evaluated - but there is only one untradeable player on this team -all others are not. 

    again - not saying Boldy will be traded, but Billy should watch both him and Rossi and do what's best for the team. i'd throw Ek in there too. i think we may be reaching a point of when it's wise to sell high on him. more about injuries than play....

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    3 hours ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

    If Guerin doesn't like the 5-year $6.25M deal for Byfield, why would he be interested in an 8-year deal at $8M per year? I could see a 4-year deal with a $6.25M average. That would put Rossi into his prime for his next deal while still collecting a lot of money before that huge payday.

    I don't see Guerin offering a long-term deal that pays Rossi a higher average than Boldy.

    Rossi's deal will be signed under a very different cap environment than Boldy's was. At the time, the cap had been flattened and revenues were down due to COVID. 

    Rossi should get more than Boldy's AAV on an 8- year deal just based on cap projections for those years. Also notable that Boldy's deal had 5 RFA years and 2 UFA, while Rossi's would be 4 and 4. 

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    1 hour ago, OldDutchChip said:

    we are talking here about our #1C to pair up with Kap. Even if Rossi is not that - the money could be used to get someone who is. So tying it up with Rossi - if he is not the one - is not the smartest. 7+MM for Rossi and another 4-5 MM for Nelson - that would be 11/12 if not more $ to throw at legit 1C. 

     

    This would not be 1C money though -- that's the appeal of signing him long term to play next to Kaprizov. JEEK + Rossi for a combined $13-14 MM AAV would be very enviable 3 years from now. 

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    15 minutes ago, Justin Hein said:

    This would not be 1C money though -- that's the appeal of signing him long term to play next to Kaprizov. JEEK + Rossi for a combined $13-14 MM AAV would be very enviable 3 years from now. 

    sorry i meant combo of money that would go to Rossi + Nelson is enough to pay true 1C. so it's a matter of preference - would you want Rossi and Nelly or someone like Pettersen or Marner or Rantanen? 

    Let's say we hold off on Rossi and do not sign Nelson. That gives us about 12-13 to play with. Then we could tempt Ranty to sign here for that much 13-14mm (give or take a mil). Then give Kap his 15mm (i do not believe it's such a bad deal to have two superstars on "superstars" contract, especially with cap increases down the road....EDM doesn't have it soo bad with SC finals and top team this year)

    Compliment all that with Yurov low AAV  .... that would actually be so appetizing for Rossi! imagine the production he gets in that lineup and then in few years - he'll maximize that earning with more cap space! 🙂  the smart thing for Rossi in that scenario would be to take 3 year contract at 5 per. So by waiting on Rossi and going after more urgent needs, you can gain leverage in talks with Rossi so that he can see - it's for mutual benefit to lower his ask now and benefit in the future. Also = maybe seeing a team with Kap and Ranty would mean more to him than $ as we likely be a very successful team (yes i know - our window is wide open.....right but we've heard this before....i'd argue our window will be MUCH more open with Kap and Ranty than with Nelson and overpaid Rossi).

    Look at this lethal top 6 ..... i'd consider that 🤔🍻

    KAP RANTY YUROV

    EK ROSSI BOLDY

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    7 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    would you want Rossi and Nelly or someone like Pettersen or Marner or Rantanen? 

    I read the other day that if Carolina can't sign Rantanen to a long-term deal before the trade deadline, that they are going to try and trade him.  I doubt anyone would trade for him without knowing that he would sign there.  What a disaster for Carolina if he doesn't sign an extension and they can't trade him.  I can't believe they would make this trade without knowing he would sign an extension.

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    11 minutes ago, SkolWild73 said:

    I read the other day that if Carolina can't sign Rantanen to a long-term deal before the trade deadline, that they are going to try and trade him.  I doubt anyone would trade for him without knowing that he would sign there.  What a disaster for Carolina if he doesn't sign an extension and they can't trade him.  I can't believe they would make this trade without knowing he would sign an extension.

    They are likely matched up against Devils - so a tough matchup for them. If they don't get out of the first - i think Ranty walks. That would be something. But stress not Canes fans - we trade you Harty for him!

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    55 minutes ago, Justin Hein said:

    Rossi's deal will be signed under a very different cap environment than Boldy's was. At the time, the cap had been flattened and revenues were down due to COVID. 

    I'm aware of this, but I still don't see Guerin signing him at more than $7M now, and the RFA years will help to keep the average value lower on a short-term deal.

    I think Guerin is more likely to go with a lower cost short-term deal for Rossi. If he was going to sign him to an 8 year deal, I think he would have done that before this year. I'm not arguing your value estimates, I'm just speculating on Guerin's move.

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    Rossi and Boldy are basically even in PPG this season (47 pts to 48 pts, respectively). Rossi being a center compared to Boldy on the wing dictates a higher value. Rossi is looking for stability. Offer $7.5M x 8 and make him turn $60M if he so chooses. If he turns it down, Guerin can shorten the term and save in AAV. The Wild need to be careful here. Rossi has done everything asked of him (and then some) by the organization, and they still dont believe in him. He doesn't have RFA arbitration rights yet, so any lowball offer he feels is unfair may lead to discourse, where he simply plays out the next four years and then signs somewhere else as a UFA. Even if he stagnates in production, or folds up in the playoffs, his contract will still be favorable (or at least, tradeable) with the crazy raise in the cap coming in the next few years. But if he continues to progress, his contract will look like a steal in four years. It will be interesting to see what Wyatt Johnston gets in Dallas, as he is in almost the exact same boat as Rossi, but with a more proven playoff record.

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    34 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    They are likely matched up against Devils - so a tough matchup for them. If they don't get out of the first - i think Ranty walks. That would be something. But stress not Canes fans - we trade you Harty for him!

    I would cry if he doesn’t sign with Carolina and goes back to the Avs.

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    32 minutes ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

    I'm aware of this, but I still don't see Guerin signing him at more than $7M now, and the RFA years will help to keep the average value lower on a short-term deal.

    I think Guerin is more likely to go with a lower cost short-term deal for Rossi. If he was going to sign him to an 8 year deal, I think he would have done that before this year. I'm not arguing your value estimates, I'm just speculating on Guerin's move.

    I agree that a short-term deal makes sense for both parties in this case. But, based on new cap numbers I'm skeptical that they could sign that four-year deal for less than $7 MM per year. 

    They could consider a 1- or 2-year prove it deal but that would open them to a four-year offer sheet, and would cost more money if they re-sign him in year 3 + 4 anyway. 

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    22 minutes ago, Patrick said:

    Generally when term gets longer AAV goes down.  But you increased AAV when you increased the term...why? 

    Great question -- for next four years, Rossi is a restricted free agent and his leverage is decreased. For that reason, a deal that's longer than 4 years would likely hold a higher AAV because years five through eight are unrestricted. Rossi's camp would not give up those years at an RFA rate, even given the extra security of those years. 

    To your point, Faber's long-term deal was well below market partially because it included five RFA years, but also because it was such a long commitment after only one season of play. 

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    28 minutes ago, Patrick said:

    Generally when term gets longer AAV goes down.  But you increased AAV when you increased the term...why? 

    You actually have it backwards. Shorter deals are cheaper AAV that pays closer to current player value, allowing players to bet on themselves and get a bigger contract sooner.

    Long term deals have higher AAV because it is the team betting that overpaying now but getting surplus value by the middle/end of the contract. Or if its an older player, getting surplus value immediately and hoping the fall off isn't too quick or steep (spurg).

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    54 minutes ago, Patrick said:

    Generally when term gets longer AAV goes down.  But you increased AAV when you increased the term...why? 

    I think the projected salary cap increases and the player ages both impact that.

    If you are signing someone in their 30s, then AAV could easily go down with a long-term deal since you are signing a player who will likely decline after a few years.

    If you sign someone in their early to mid-20s, then the AAV could easily go up with a long-term deal as you are covering their prime earning years with the deal, including some of the earliest unrestricted free agent years.

    In this case, the salary cap is also escalating fairly rapidly, so it's going to be difficult to get extra term at a discount for the team.

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    I think some people are thinking we can get Rossi for Ek money.  That isn't feasible for three reasons.

    1. Ek signed his contract to a bargain bin deal in hindsight.  I don't think anyone could have expected the defensively sound third liner to become a 60-65 pt player on good years.  Rossi got to that point total about 3-4 years earlier.  Ek offers more intangibles, but he has topped out given his age.  Rossi seems a better playmaker/offensive minded player with years to grow in contrast.

    2. Rossi is signing his deal in a time when the entire league knows they are getting $20m-$30m more to work with in three years time.  ANY players deal going forward is going to reset the floor.  $7-8m is going to be the 2nd line money standard in no time.  No one is asking Rossi to be paid Kap money.  He's going to be paid what others like him are being offered.

    3. Rossi is shoring up a position of historical weakness.  Outside of Koivu, Staal (for 1-2 seasons), Hartman (for one season), and Ek now, who is giving the team what Rossi does?  For a team so starved of any and all players down the middle, you want to dump a guy who has helped solve that issue?  It's the "if we get rid of Foligno, we have to sign another guy to do his job.". Signing anyone to do what Rossi gives you is going to cost the same, if not more. We don't know if Yurov bcomes a Rossi or better.  We KNOW Rossi has NHL and Wild experience.  I'd rather the team pay a guy who busted his ass each off-season for the THIS team, not elsewhere.  Excuse me if I'm not lining up for the next PLD albatross.

     

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