What Does A Potential Marco Rossi Offer Sheet Look Like?

wasn't Aho drafted by Canes.....so why would they send out draft pick comp to Canadiens? 🤔

Nobody is offering Rossi $7M or more PLUS 7 years.  If they do that, the compensation goes up since the compensation is based off of 5 years.  A 7x7 contract would be 49/5 for compensation purposes, or $9.8M a year. That would bump teams up to two firsts, a second and a third

14 minutes ago, SkolWild73 said:

A 7x7 contract would be 49/5 for compensation purposes, or $9.8M a year. That would bump teams up to two firsts, a second and a third

It would be nice if you got a GM to do that who wasn't aware of the rule and we can say thank you very much!

Kalisha has got some editing to do. She blew the Aho compensation and the Broberg/Holloway compensation. Aho got nothing changed since it was matched. It was the Blues sending the Oilers picks, not the other way around. 

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The Wild should sign Rossi to avoid an offer sheet. They can't let Rossi go for compensation picks and end up with a hole at center to start the season. Aho, Kotkaniemi, and Holloway signed their offer sheets in August. Guerin has less than a month to take action on extending Rossi; otherwise, a team will offer him a qualifying offer sheet by the beginning of August. 

Guerin is prepared for the unexpected, but is he willing to pay the price? 

This is the part where I think Kalisha is dead wrong. Honestly, I think Guerin is welcoming an offersheet. I think he has already taken 1 shot across the bow saying he will match, in Guerinspeak it meant, if you want him, it had better be a really good offer.

I believe Guerin will match anything up to $7,020,113 aav, and will start thinking about compensation if it goes higher. I believe Guerin has already gauged the league in what they will offer, and has concluded that Rossi is not getting offersheeted. I think he's ready to play the long game here. 

To get to this conclusion, I've got to make a couple of assumptions: 1) that Rossi has actually been shopped this offseason, and 2) that Guerin believes that nothing is coming in over the above amount. He may not want to give $7 aav, but he is prepared to do it if necessary because a 1, 3 in next year's draft is simply not enough compensation. 

We saw how Carolina was willing to offersheet Miller and Bouchard, so much so that the Oilers took Bouchard out of the equation. Instead of offersheeting Miller, Tlusky and Drury came to a trade that was pretty close to what an offersheet compensation would be. 

We also saw in the Aho/Kotkaniemi saga that Waddell remembered what Montreal had done to him with Aho, and really stuck it to them with Kotkaniemi. Carolina's 1st was in the high 20s. 

The key thing we can take from all of these offersheets was, to be successful in obtaining the player, the team you are offersheeting must be in cap trouble. Carolina wasn't and quickly matched. Aho was also a much more established player at the time than Rossi is now. 

If Chicago is offering over $7,020,113, I'm simply taking the compensation and each game I play Chicago, I'm hitting their stars like it's a playoff game. Send Bedard out for some games with a heavy hit and Chicago's season tanks. As things stand now, neither Bedard nor Rossi are big enough to absorb the big hits. And, please, I'm not advocating something like Hartman did to Stutzle, I'm saying heavy clean hits, like the one Reeves put on Hronek a few years back.

Even with Rossi, I would not expect Chicago to get out of the bottom 10 teams in the league this coming season. Having that pick could change the direction of this franchise. 

2 hours ago, SkolWild73 said:

Nobody is offering Rossi $7M or more PLUS 7 years.  If they do that, the compensation goes up since the compensation is based off of 5 years.  A 7x7 contract would be 49/5 for compensation purposes, or $9.8M a year. That would bump teams up to two firsts, a second and a third

Totally agree there is no way we will see 7 year offersheet .But it is possible that we will see a 3 year or one year sheet similar to Kotkaniemi but with 7.0AAV instead of 6.1 like in the past 

But also a trade particuarly a 3 way deal is still a suitable option 

With the lack of  available players in FA this year we can take solace in the Wild having enough cap room to respond to potential poachers gunning for Rossi. Personally I don’t think an offer sheet is incoming but it never hurts to be prepared. I do have to add if said offer sheet does hit the Wild FO I do expect fireworks. 

I really think BG is in a bad position:

1. If we all agree that MIN needs an additional top 2 C to EE, Hartman, Yurov and Sturm if they want to compete for the POs then its Rossi or an ever better = more expensive guy. And every GM knows that. 

2. If the actual roster (no Rossi, no nothing) doesn't improve and MIN is going to miss the PO, BG is history in Nov. And he knows.

3. So BG has exactly 3 options with around 11 M capspace available: a) Either manage a Rossi + xyz for a top Center trade ("bigger! taller! grittier!) . Not so easy, because every team wants center-depth and shys away from trading top-centers. And why should they when cap is increasing heavily? I guess this is the reason why no trade happened yet. b) Wait and match. If R is cool, and I would recommend, he waits untill the season starts or even longer and doesn't sign anything below 7 M/5 years. Time is on his side, not Guerins. c) R waits and finally signs 7/5 or above and G doesnt match. Then he'll have no center or make an expensive late panic trade. 

4. That means: In any case he will have to pay more than he wants (5/5) and declared in public. 

1 hour ago, fikifuka said:

I really think BG is in a bad position:

1. If we all agree that MIN needs an additional top 2 C to EE, Hartman, Yurov and Sturm if they want to compete for the POs then its Rossi or an ever better = more expensive guy. And every GM knows that. 

2. If the actual roster (no Rossi, no nothing) doesn't improve and MIN is going to miss the PO, BG is history in Nov. And he knows.

3. So BG has exactly 3 options with around 11 M capspace available: a) Either manage a Rossi + xyz for a top Center trade ("bigger! taller! grittier!) . Not so easy, because every team wants center-depth and shys away from trading top-centers. And why should they when cap is increasing heavily? I guess this is the reason why no trade happened yet. b) Wait and match. If R is cool, and I would recommend, he waits untill the season starts or even longer and doesn't sign anything below 7 M/5 years. Time is on his side, not Guerins. c) R waits and finally signs 7/5 or above and G doesnt match. Then he'll have no center or make an expensive late panic trade. 

4. That means: In any case he will have to pay more than he wants (5/5) and declared in public. 

on the contrary, i think Billy is doing just fine 

1. We are returning a team that when healthy was #1 team in the league - unless another injury curse hits us - we should be in the top 3 of the central again

2. We have two wild cards in Yurov and Zeev - who are not asked to be stars, but if at least one is who he is promised to be - then look out

3. Gus should be on top of his game from beginning and ready to deliver a Vezina - there is a shit load of $ riding on it for him - so he'll be ready

4. i know we are all sad that we didn't sign Boeser and Nelson and Ehlers, but we were smart at waiting...there will always be someone available and we are positioning ourselves to be main players at the table. Still not a fan of Vlady - but i came around on him and hope he kicks ass!

5. Rossi will be here this year. Likely won't finish the year (but who knows) but it would be foolish for him to just hold out. He'll get his contract, likely a1 year at 5.5 as Bill is a fair guy (most of the time) and he'll play. Like minnyfaninnc said - he waits - his spot is taken by Yurov and he'll be in KHL very soon. He cannot just wait. 

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2 hours ago, fikifuka said:

In any case he will have to pay more than he wants (5/5)

BG has enough cap space to give a little on this number. The negotiations ongoing with Rossi are happening all over the league. There’s something like 7+ players filing for arbitration right now. I’m thinking the Rossi deal comes in somewhere around $6M. Meanwhile Rossi’s agent is doing normal agent things, shopping his client around the NHL. As a fan it’s been a bit of a rollercoaster ride with MR from the beginning. I kept hoping for the best as Rossi’s draft plus 1 year slipped by as he battled serious health issues. Next 19 NHL games where he got 1 assist. Then he shows up in Iowa as one of their most consistent and reliable forwards. From there he has a run at the Calder. This whole time he was a player I supported and believed in. I think Rossi is a mid tier 2C at a crossroads in his career. I think he’s earned a 3-5 year contract,  and dare I say, a prove it deal. That might not be fair but as an undersized player that’s the reality of the current NHL environment. I’m still 100% hoping for the best.