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  • What Do the Wild Need To Do To Get Ryan Hartman Going?


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    Phillip Garrett

    The Minnesota Wild are 4-6-0 in their last 10 games because they can’t stay healthy. 

    Jared Spurgeon, the team captain, is the most recent player to join Minnesota’s injured list. It seems like we are seeing new defensive pairings and line combinations nightly. Still, the Wild finished 2024 with three wins in the last four games. Minnesota has found crucial scoring from their blue line through this stretch, but where are the forwards? 

    With Kaprizov out, the team needs other players to step up. Matt Boldy is Minnesota’s second-most talented forward and must be more productive. However, Ryan Hartman hasn’t scored since November 19 in St. Louis and has only had three assists since then.

    Hartman has been a core part of this team's success throughout his six-year career in Minnesota. He has put up his best years in the State of Hockey, topping out at 65 points in 2021-22. Between his physical play, readiness to back up his teammates, and finding the back of the net, Hartman had earned his spot on the roster. 

    However, Hartman's offensive capabilities have declined since then. He only scored 37 points in 2022-23 and 45 the following season. Though his numbers have been down for the last two seasons, the drop in offensive capabilities made sense. Due to injury, he only played 59 games in the 2022-23 season. 

    Still, even when he wasn’t scoring 65 points, he was consistent and productive in a middle-six role. As a result, the Wild signed him to a 3-year, $12 million extension.

    But Hartman has been nonexistent on the score sheet since the extension. 

    Hartman picked up an assist in Minnesota’s 5-3 win over the Nashville Predators, his first point in 18 games. Still, he hasn’t scored a goal in 20 games. That’s unacceptable from a second-line forward who is taking up $4 million in cap space for the next three years. 

    He has only four goals and eight points this season. The easy solution is to ask when the Wild can move off the player, but they’re stuck with him at least until his contract year in 2026-27. Minnesota just extended him, and it would be foolish to consider a buyout. It’s also unlikely that another team would take on his contract. So, the staff needs to find a way to get Hartman scoring. 

    Often, coaches bench struggling players or limit their time on ice. However, considering how many players are out of Minnesota’s lineup, I doubt Hynes would bench Hartman. The coaching staff’s next option is to limit his playing time, hoping for a stronger effort on the ice. However, they’ve already limited Hartman’s playing time to 15 minutes per game in 2024-25. John Hynes is also not likely to cut his ice time any further because it would continue to put more strain on the depleted lineup. 

    Hynes’s solution has been to move Hartman from center to the wing. While he hasn’t been productive, Hartman has shown his flexibility in the lineup, moving up and down in the last few seasons. 

    What if moving Hartman back to center would spur his offensive production? With Joel Eriksson Ek back in the lineup, there is little wiggle room at center. Frederick Gaudreau and Marat Khusnutdinov are the other likely centers to move up in the lineup. 

    However, Khusnutdinov must prove he can score more often before the Wild move him up the roster again. Hynes has given a few tries on the third line with minimal success. 

    Conversely, Gaudreau has had a reasonably strong season in the faceoff dot (50%), better than Hartman’s 47.7%. However, Gaudreau has taken nearly double the faceoffs with 432 to Hartman’s 237.

    On a team that hasn’t won faceoffs for the last ten years, it might not be the smartest thing to move Gaudreau to the second-line wing. However, if the team continues to get bailed out by the defense or, even worse, lose, it’s worth shuffling the lineup.

    The upside of getting Hartman confident outweighs the losses on the dot. That puts John Hynes in a difficult situation. The team’s offense is not sustainable from the blue line, and Hynes knows his depth forwards must step up with all of Minnesota’s injuries. If the Wild continue falling in the standings, Hynes must move Hartman up in the lineup.

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    I know it takes time to write the articles, do the research, and for some embed some video, but sometimes articles just date themselves. It's not the 1st time, nor will it be the last. 

    Here's the thing about a lot of NHL players: They're streaky. We'd love to have a consistent effort and everything works on the average, but most of the time, these athletes don't work that way. They go through 10-15 game hot streaks and the same type of cold streaks. 

    Hartman's lasted a bit longer. But, once he got the assist a couple of games ago things started to swing the other way. A 2 point game last night gets him out of his slump. Expectations would be he'd start producing at an accelerated clip for awhile. And, really, that's been Hartman's career. 

    So, what should the Wild do to get Hartman going? Nothing. Just keep going the way their going and making tweaks to the lineup sometimes. About 5-7 games ago, I thought Hartzy was getting off good shots, which was a good sign. Typically, results lag, so I didn't think it would be long before he started hitting paydirt. Actually, the results lagged a long time. Right now, this team needs a hot Hartzy. It also needs a hot Boldy.

    Will Boldy's game start clicking with the move he pulled in OT last night? He's hit 2 shootout goals that have helped us, but overall, his play has been poor (for him). But, the end of last game should be something he can build on. We need more of that OT play from him.

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    Why are we talking about underperformed bottom 6 guys in a top 6 role. I'm sorry but you are not a smart gm or coach if you are consistently playing under 30 pt guys on your 2nd line.

    Maybe give talent with a large upside a chance...

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    10 hours ago, Need4speed99 said:

    Why are we talking about underperformed bottom 6 guys in a top 6 role. I'm sorry but you are not a smart gm or coach if you are consistently playing under 30 pt guys on your 2nd line.

    Maybe give talent with a large upside a chance...

    Pretty much only Ohgren has that shot right now.  He'll probably be called back up eventually.

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    Kind of have to wonder if the Wild were prepared for Yurov to take that top 6 spot and simply didn't have the money to go get a replacement? I know they hoped Ohgren was ready, but his stick was just too slow. 

    However, we have gotten a better version of Johansson this season. I realize he's a villain but you have to objectively look at his play and he is far more engaged, does at least attempt to go into the corners and is playing better. He's likely ahead of last year's point production. Yet, a #2 wing he is not, he is a $2m player who is holding the place because nobody has knocked him off the hill.

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    1 hour ago, Citizen Strife said:

    Pretty much only Ohgren has that shot right now.  He'll probably be called back up eventually.

    With all the injuries and the desperate need for secondary scoring, I'm shocked they haven't given him another shot yet.

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    Hartman missed a handful of games earlier this season and likely played through whatever he was dealing with for a while. I'm guessing he will have a better 2nd half if he can stay healthy.

    They need more production from a lot of guys, but prior to the last 2 games, Hartman certainly had an uncharacteristically long cold spell. Hopefully he'll tally points at a rate like he did last season now that he's gotten a few points.

    Of the top 12 teams for points% in the standings, the Wild have the worst goal differential at just +10, and are the only ones scoring below 3 goals per game, at just 2.95(19th overall). They don't have a lot of margin for error if they don't start putting in more goals as a team.

    Fleury has been fairly solid most nights, but thank goodness for Gus!!!

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    The Wild should have never extended Hartman. He has had two decent years in his entire career. They bought the outliers. Hopefully they can dump him on some chump.

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    There’s plenty of room on this team for a Hartman. He’s a role player. He definitely knows the game and the “game”. One Hartman is enough. Like Foligno he’s receiving a little back pay for the years he was certainly underpaid. My recommendations? Lower the expectations for point production to around 35-40 on an 82 game season. He’s staying out of the box and playing responsibly overall. I still think he’s in need of some linemates he can build chemistry with. Not sure who exactly.

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    I'm thinking the same as Huckelberry, that Hartman is likely dealing with something lingering and raising him up the lineup to play more time is likely not what the doctor ordered. Hopefully he can get healthy again and come back ready to play.

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    How many 15-20 goal/40 point forwards with average skill sets continue to produce that way into their early 30's?

    Certainly some, but usually because they have a stronger lineup around them.  But for most, 30 is the beginning of the slide toward bottom 6/fringe NHL'er and retirement.

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    On 1/4/2025 at 7:47 AM, Citizen Strife said:

    Pretty much only Ohgren has that shot right now.  He'll probably be called back up eventually.

    So when are they ready? When are they viable options?

    The aging vets aren't doing it.

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    Trade Hartman, Rossi, Nojo, Boldy, Spurgeon, Brodin, Suckerallo, Folingo, Kush, Jiricek after tonight. Shit shit shit and more soft shit. Blow the doors open with a Kaprizov Faber trade and start over. No way this group gets shit done. To soft!  Good luck against the Jets, San Jose, Vegas, and the Oilers. Another 4 straight.

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    11 hours ago, RedLake said:

    Trade Hartman, Rossi, Nojo, Boldy, Spurgeon, Brodin, Suckerallo, Folingo, Kush, Jiricek after tonight. Shit shit shit and more soft shit. Blow the doors open with a Kaprizov Faber trade and start over. No way this group gets shit done. To soft!  Good luck against the Jets, San Jose, Vegas, and the Oilers. Another 4 straight.

    I always like a breath of positivity...

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    The Wild need a few more players with  more skills which would fall under the minor tweeks category .  I mean MOJO is a fast skater good skater creates chances but cant finish enough  ,then look at a guy like Brock Nelson  probably not as fast , bigger though and finishes alot more often .  I really  dont like bashing to many players unless theyre dirty etc  but i think its all about minor tweeks .

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