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  • The Wild's Biggest Lesson From Florida's Cup Run? Fortune Favors the Bold


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    Luke Sims

     

    The Florida Panthers built a 3-0 series lead over the Edmonton Oilers because they are one of the most complete teams in the league and dominated the playoffs (15-6). They have stars all over the ice and have used a combination of trades, draft picks, and free agents to put together a Stanley Cup team. 

    The Panthers transformed their old core into a revitalized team that made a surprise run to the Stanley Cup last season and a legit run to the finals this year with some more additions. 

    So, what can the Minnesota Wild learn from how the Panthers assembled their roster that allowed them to make it to back-to-back Stanley Cup Finals? 

    1. Be Bold

    Bill Guerin doesn’t necessarily need more encouragement on this front. Guerin is not shy about making large franchise-altering moves like buying out Zach Parise and Ryan Suter, and he’s often aggressive during the draft or at the trade deadline. 

    Florida hasn’t been shy about making big moves, either. Let’s go back to summer 2021. From April 10 to July 24, the Panthers made three monumental trades. 

    In the first move, the Panthers sent a third-round pick to the Buffalo Sabers for Brandon Montour. The streaky offensive defenseman has become a cornerstone for Florida’s powerplay and blueline. The next move was to get Sam Bennett, the fourth-overall pick in 2014, a change of scenery. Bennett had hit a wall in Calgary, and the Panthers saw untapped potential in him. 

    A prospect and a second-round pick was all it took to acquire their second-line center. The last trade in this string was to move a first-rounder and a good goalie prospect for former second-overall pick Sam Reinhart from Buffalo. Reinhart’s contract was expiring, and he needed a change of scenery. The Panthers ponied up and gave him a three-year, $19.5 million deal, and Reinhart had 57 goals this year. 

    That summer netted the Panthers their power play specialist and second-pair defender, second-line center, and first-line winger. Not to mention, they were all key contributors in both Cup runs. 

    The following summer, the Panthers took another big swing. They traded a franchise cornerstone in Jonathan Huberdeau and some other fun things like players and draft picks for Matthew Tkachuk. Many people scrutinized the Tkachuck deal at the time. But I don’t think anyone doubts that it was a massive win for Florida now. If Alexander Barkov is the team's brain, Tkachuk is the heart. The Panthers are not missing Huberdeau at all. 

    Florida didn’t stop there, trading for perennial 30 goal-scorer Vladimir Taresenko and veteran Kyle Okposo to stabilize the bottom six. A less aggressive team may not have made these moves, but they are paying off. To chase a Cup, you must be bold and aggressive. The Panthers are proving that. 

    2. It’s Nice To Get Lucky Sometimes 

    No one can sit there and honestly tell me they thought that Carter Verhaeghe and Gustav Forsling would be as good as they have become. Forsling was a guy that the Panthers claimed off of waivers when he was 24 years old after bouncing between the AHL and NHL. Now, he’s the defensive anchor on the top pair of a Cup team. Good on Florida’s scouting department for finding him, but they got much more than they could have hoped with the Forsling claim. 

    Verhaeghe is another crucial cog in Florida’s top six. This is a guy who did not sniff the NHL until he was 23. After winning a Cup with the Tampa Bay Lightning, he moved further south and just started scoring. Verhaeghe was never a true standout scorer until his last year in juniors and again in his last year in the AHL. Again, good on the Panthers’ scouting department for identifying a guy who was being undervalued by his team. Still, I doubt anyone thought Verhaeghe would blow up into a 40-goal scorer and two-time 70-point player. 

    The Wild may have gotten lucky with guys like Ryan Hartman, who finally found a home in Minnesota. However, Kirill Kaprizov is due a ton of credit there. You could say that the Zach Bogosian and Jake Middleton deals have turned out better than expected, but nothing like what Florida experienced. 

    The Panthers found a 40-goal top-six winger and the league’s best defensive defensemen for next to nothing. 

    3. Having Center Depth Is Nice

    The Panthers are blessed to have three capable top-six centers. Anton Lundell is a young player who is currently Florida’s third-line center. He’d be a darn good second-line center on almost any other team. Bennett is a guy who just does everything for the Panthers and has a little more experience. Either way, any team would want those two playing behind Sasha Barkov. 

    The Wild have a less offensively-inclined Barkov in Joel Eriksson Ek. Marco Rossi slots behind him, and he has a ton of potential. However, the Wild are looking to move on from him if the right deal comes along. The Wild still has Danila Yurov in Russia. He could play center and will be in the NHL after this season. Having a ton of good centers doesn’t hurt! Maybe Marat Khusnutdinov can turn it around offensively with more time on North American ice. 

    The Wild have a good pool of centers, but the Panthers have a deadly trio led by one of the best in the world. There’s a reason one team is trying to hoist the Cup, and the other team is hoisting a cup on the couch.

    All stats and data via CapFriendly (R.I.P.) unless otherwise noted. 

     

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    ODC and Protec gonna have a field day with this article...

    If being bold means dumping Rossi, no thanks.  I get the allure of taking risks, but Fletcher got nothing out of it and the team is STILL paying for it.  

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    yes and yes and yes

    be bold wild be bold

    nothing is impossible and nothing is off the table

    look if LA got rid of PLD - i don't want to hear "oh it will never work" 

    let's get excited!

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    Washington pays for LA's mistake, what dopes.

    Eternal reminder: EEK makes $5.25m, while PLD makes $8.5m.  Free Agency and trades can sometimes kill.  Heck, Rossi might outdo PLD's numbers for free.

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    The Wild have a good pool of centers, but the Panthers have a deadly trio led by one of the best in the world. There’s a reason one team is trying to hoist the Cup, and the other team is hoisting a cup on the couch.

    Florida has a pool of 28-year old veteran players. The Wild have one at 27, another at 22, and another 20 year old that isn't even on the team yet. I suspect Guerin might get bold, but it's a little early in his retooling to do that when he's working with roughly a $73M cap while many teams have a full $88M.

    Nobody said to themselves that within 3-4 years of doing the buy-outs for Parise and Suter that the Wild would be hoisting a cup. The Wild have been making moves to build for 25-26, and should have some strong young players when it finally arrives, along with a mix of veteran leadership that good teams need.

    Guerin maybe hasn't maximized all assets, like the Stramel pick, but still has a top 12 prospect pool and a team that can compete for the playoffs, when healthy. A lot of that is due to Kaprizov which was not Guerin's pick, but he's made a number to good moves for the future since he arrived.

    I'm looking forward to seeing the youth movement in the next 2 years with Johansson and Fleury coming off the books at the end of this season. Yurov and Wallstedt will replace those expiring contracts, and join Ohgren and Khusnutdinov, who will have gained valuable experience in 24-25. The Wild could go from lottery team to competing for home ice in the playoffs in the not too distant future. Lambos might even be ready to help in 25-26.

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    FL has gotten aggressive and picked up important guys in their ascension to the Cup Finals twice. There were some big moves and South FL makes it easy cause players wanna go there. 

    It's allowed FL to acquire veterans and build a mercenary force with top guys for their whole careers coming in to play roles on the 3rd/4th lines or final defense pairings. (Okposo, Tarasenko, OEL.)

    Minnesota's penalties are nearly over. They've got young talent. They've got a solid core, and veteran presence. What else do they need, you might ask? Balance and depth. FL & Edmonton have it. Last year, Florida and Vegas had it. Dallas failed this year due to their defense, and special teams, although their scoring slumped somewhat. NYR also had the depth and balance, but bogged down like Dallas. By comparison MN is weaker at center, and depth than these teams with less reliable goaltending, less size, and lesser coaching.

    Between those things and the worst PK in the league, MN has to get real. Rossi isn't a game-changer, Kaprizov is. Middleton isn't a 4M guy, when OEL is making 2.3M. Bouchard is making 3.9M. Boldy is solid but not Guentzal, Tarasenko, or Tofolli who have playoffs-proof and Cups. MN's depth is NoJo & Gaudreau + Foligno. It's like the generic version of a contender. Part of it is the penalties, but part of it is the perennial "make more out of average guys" necessity by choice. The Wild are invested in some of the wrong guys or too many of the same kinds of guys. Their coach is average. Their GM got lazy. The prospects are slow-coming. The superstar is losing faith.

    I think it's time this Summer to shuffle the deck again. Move on from old baggage. Sorry to Spurge and others, we love ya but I say time for a new chapter.

    MN is good but not good enough. They need to

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    Not a single mention of Bobrovsky?  Or the wisdom behind locking up a goalie on a 7x$10M aav contract? Dude got shellac'd the past two games, and is still posting a 2.35 gaa, 0.906 sv% this playoffs.  Even the first three games of this series seemed like Edmonton would just be just pushing and pushing and pushing only to run into Bob

    This fan base here goes absolutely off the rails when an article about MoJo and his $2M contract, or bonkers when discussing Bogo's $1.2M contract

    Yet nobody's going to mention Bob being an absolute anchor on this up run?  Or that he's getting paid more than Moose, Hartzy & FreddyG combined? 

     

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    25 minutes ago, MrCheatachu said:

    Not a single mention of Bobrovsky?  Or the wisdom behind locking up a goalie on a 7x$10M aav contract? Dude got shellac'd the past two games, and is still posting a 2.35 gaa, 0.906 sv% this playoffs.  Even the first three games of this series seemed like Edmonton would just be just pushing and pushing and pushing only to run into Bob

    This fan base here goes absolutely off the rails when an article about MoJo and his $2M contract, or bonkers when discussing Bogo's $1.2M contract

    Yet nobody's going to mention Bob being an absolute anchor on this up run?  Or that he's getting paid more than Moose, Hartzy & FreddyG combined? 

     

    That looked really bad early and Zito has had to work around it for sure. It will likely cost them Montour and others if they extend Rienhart. 

    There are more than one ways to skin a cat, but the point is Minnesota can't just go through the motions waiting for picks to begin carrying water for the team. 

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    Florida has an excellent scouting staff, some living in MN BTW. It should surprise no one at the moves they’ve made including the low cost additions. 

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    17 minutes ago, Protec said:

    There are more than one ways to skin a cat, but the point is Minnesota can't just go through the motions waiting for picks to begin carrying water for the team. 

    But didn't Florida start this roster by retooling after 2012, losing a bunch to get the 1st and 2nd pick of the draft in 2014 & 2013, and not advancing in the playoffs until 2022?

    Didn't Florida get to the Finals by "waiting for picks to begin carrying water for the team." Their #1 center and team captain, Barkov, came from the 2013 draft. They added Ekblad(who wears an A and plays over 20 minutes per game) to their D corps in 2014. They did not start going all in until those guys were about 25 year old NHL veterans.

    They slowly built up the team around them, then went all-in when they felt they could contend. When they started getting antsy in 2022, thinking they were getting close, it looks like they somewhat misfired to add Claude Giroux and 2 other guys who no longer play for them when giving up a 2024 1st round pick and Owen Tippett(#2 in points for the Flyers last season). Claude Giroux had a solid 2022 playoffs for them, but was then gone. Tippett only carried a $1.5M cap hit through this season.

    It took Florida several years to get to this place, and it will take the Wild a couple more years until they are possibly in position to contend. Teams that get impatient, then try to accelerate the timing often crash and burn.

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    54 minutes ago, Protec said:

    That looked really bad early and Zito has had to work around it for sure. It will likely cost them Montour and others if they extend Rienhart. 

    There are more than one ways to skin a cat, but the point is Minnesota can't just go through the motions waiting for picks to begin carrying water for the team. 

    Agreed 100%.

    Hell, the Bob contract looked like a boat anchor last year until he turned it around. If anything this SCF is an interesting case study of building an aggressive, gritty team based on a strong goalie (FLA) vs. putting a cast of characters around the best player in the world and other high end skilled forwards (McDavid/Draisaitl).

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    claimed off of waivers when he was 24 years old after bouncing between the AHL and NHL. Now, he’s the defensive anchor on the top pair of a Cup team

    The first part of this description of Forsling matches Declan Chisholm exactly.  We can only hope the second part lines up as well... 😃

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    1 hour ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

    But didn't Florida start this roster by retooling after 2012, losing a bunch to get the 1st and 2nd pick of the draft in 2014 & 2013, and not advancing in the playoffs until 2022?

    Didn't Florida get to the Finals by "waiting for picks to begin carrying water for the team." Their #1 center and team captain, Barkov, came from the 2013 draft. They added Ekblad(who wears an A and plays over 20 minutes per game) to their D corps in 2014. They did not start going all in until those guys were about 25 year old NHL veterans.

    They slowly built up the team around them, then went all-in when they felt they could contend. When they started getting antsy in 2022, thinking they were getting close, it looks like they somewhat misfired to add Claude Giroux and 2 other guys who no longer play for them when giving up a 2024 1st round pick and Owen Tippett(#2 in points for the Flyers last season). Claude Giroux had a solid 2022 playoffs for them, but was then gone. Tippett only carried a $1.5M cap hit through this season.

    It took Florida several years to get to this place, and it will take the Wild a couple more years until they are possibly in position to contend. Teams that get impatient, then try to accelerate the timing often crash and burn.

    True, but that certainly hasn't been an option for MN. Never being bad enough or embracing a full rebuild, it's fair to point out those facts and surmise that rebuilds can work out especially if they win the Cup.

    In terms of parallels to MN, it's not really too similar except that MN currently has a core that's age range puts them in the win-now window. If they took a step this Summer and another next Summer, the final year of Kaprizov's deal could be special for MN. That's why some of us are wondering if Guerin is nuts, or if he's gonna make the final moves to position the Wild. Now Beckman's gone, GMBG guys are getting older and showing up. How it's gonna materialize will be fascinating, or not...

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    Let's be real about Montour, Forsling, and Bennett. They were accepted off of the scrap heap by teams that were jettisoning them. Bennett was a major disappointment in Calgary. Somehow, Florida gave him an opportunity to thrive. Montour sucks said Buffalo fans, and they weren't really sold on Reinhart either. And Forsling was a great grab and given opportunity. They even traded out Weeger to give him some more opportunity. Each one of these guys came up roses.

    They bought extremely low on these guys. But, somehow, they knew they could play. This is the lesson, some players aren't playing so well because the role their teams have them in aren't the right roles. Bennett was clipped down to 4th line C before being traded. 

    On that note, Shooter may make some head scratching deals, but he also has a knack for grabbing underrated talent. Some call it lucky, and if that's it, let the luck be bold this offseason! 

    On the Rossi front, do you know the enemy of greatness? Good. Sometimes you have to give up the good to get great. I'm not one who discounts Rossi due to size, but if you can trade him to get great, it simply something that needs to be considered. For people who are saying "no, not him" you need to think about this hard. There shouldn't be any "no, not hims" on this roster if it makes the team better. I'm also not talking about the team for '24-25, but overall for the long haul. 

    Yes, this even applies to Kaprizov. If Gretzky can be traded, anyone can be traded. But, you'd better get a great player for Rossi. You cannot whiff. And here's where the hard part comes in: Rossi's potential and work ethic could make him great. But, currently, he is in the pretty good category, 1 season at .5 ppg. 

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