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    Hockey Wilderness is counting down the Minnesota Wild’s Top-11 Prospects, as voted by our staff. Today, we give you everything you need to know about our No. 4 prospect, Liam Öhgren.

    The Minnesota Wild are looking to escape an endless loop of mediocrity. They didn't have an aggressive summer, even though general manager Bill Guerin and owner Craig Leipold wanted a post-cap hell “Christmas morning.” The Wild added Vladimir Tarasenko, but he’s 33 and no longer a star. They also signed Nico Sturm to handle fourth-line duties, and he isn't expected to be more than that. Once again, they are looking to improve from within. 

    Liam Ohgren has improved his appearance as an NHL player. He's bigger, leaner, and looks like a tough player to knock off the puck. However, Ohgren needs NHL minutes to continue to develop as a player. The question is, who can help Ohgren maximize his game? 

    The Wild don't need Ohgren to become a 30-goal scorer immediately. It'd help if he could establish himself as a 20-goal scorer and stay with the big club. Hynes can be strategic and put Mats Zuccarello and Joel Eriksson Ek with Ohgren to help him in his development.

    Why do Zuccarello and Eriksson Ek make sense? 

    The Wild have been trying to find more scoring depth. Hynes is comfortable playing Kirill Kaprizov, Eriksson Ek, and Matt Boldy together. However, the team needs scoring in its middle-six to foster long-term success. 

    Ohgren’s likely starting on the third line and second power play if he makes the team. At even-strength, you can't ignore the potential forechecking and net-crashing chemistry between Eriksson Ek and Ohgren. 

    At 6-foot-0, 187 lbs., Ohgren can help Eriksson Ek below the faceoff dots. That gives Eriksson Ek a break from being the primary forechecker. Zuccarello’s centering and passing skills will help make Ohgren a dangerous player. 

    Ohgren needs a legit playmaker on his opposite wing. He's unlikely to play many minutes alongside Kaprizov or Boldy. Expect Kaprizov and Boldy to lead their lines in the top-six this season. That leaves Ohgren with Zuccarello if Hynes wants to spread playmaking depth on the third line. 

    Pairing Ohgren and Zuccarello makes sense because: 

    • Kaprizov has been injury-prone. 
    • They’re not banking on the St. Louis Blues’ version of Tarasenko.
    • Ryan Hartman’s offense can be inconsistent.
    • Ohgren can be more effective than Marcus Johansson.

    Kaprizov averages 66 games played per season (excluding his rookie season, which was shortened due to the COVID-19 pandemic). Hynes must manage his ice time while still maximizing his potential. Tarasenko is Guerin’s short-term project. Unless Tarasenko shows Hynes the prime version of himself, he’s probably only here for this season. 

    Hartman was able to support Kaprizov’s and Boldy's offense in the playoffs. However, expect him to regress to the mean. Hynes will be tempted to play Johansson on the third line due to his speed alone. However, Hynes needs to choose Ohgren’s growth over Johansson’s speed. Johansson is mostly a one-dimensional player, whereas Ohgren is a well-rounded player. 

    Pairing Eriksson Ek with Zuccarello and Ohgren creates momentum. Eriksson Ek has many tough assignments at the start and end of games. Ohgren won't be on the ice with Eriksson Ek all the time. There will be times when Hynes would prefer to play Tarasenko due to his veteran status. Don't worry, Tarasenko is a placeholder until Ohgren is ready for the top-six. 

    Ohgren’s skating is probably better than Tarasekno’s. Still, you can understand why Guerin traded for Tarasenko. He’s a safety net with winning experience. If anything, Ohgren should look to be more like Tarasenko than Kaprizov once he reaches his prime – a realistic ceiling for Ohgren than a franchise scorer.

    Tarasenko was a five-time 30-goal scorer with the Blues and scored 40 goals in the 2015-16 season. In 2021-22, he had 82 points in 75 games, his only point-per-game season. 

    Kaprizov’s a three-time 40-goal scorer, scored 100 points, and has been a point-per-game producer since his rookie season. If the league hadn’t shortened the 2020-21 season to 56 games in response to the quarantine, Kaprizov would likely have surpassed 82 points. 

    Kaprizov hasn't won the Stanley Cup yet. So, Tarasenko has the upper hand in that regard, having won it twice (2018-19 Blues and 2023-24 Florida Panthers). However, what leverage does prime Tarasenko have over Kaprizov? 

    Tarasenko showed himself to be an elite winger in his prime. However, Kaprizov’s a true franchise winger. In other words, a superstar. Expecting Ohgren to be similar to Kaprizov if his game translates is unfair. Kaprizov is showing that he's a rare talent. You can argue that Tarasenko was the Blues’ franchise player, but Kaprizov has shown us another level of a cornerstone.  

    In his prime, Tarasenko is likely the better playmaker than Ohgren, but Ohgren is already the better skater. If Ohgren happens to exceed expectations, expecting Tarasenko is more realistic than Kaprizov. 

    Hynes needs to trust Zuccarello to help with his offense. Eriksson Ek screening goalies is the icing on the cake. A goalie's worst nightmare is dealing with an annoying screener, playmaker, and sniper.

    Ohgren still has top-six upside 

    There weren't many categories in which Ohgren is elite. Still, there's reason to believe Ohgren can follow Tarasenko's footsteps.

    League Rankings

    Shots On Goal Per 60 Minutes (SOG/60) 

    176th in NHL 

    Ahead of Anton Lundell, Steven Stamkos, Connor Bedard, Vincent Trocheck, Zuccarello, Jamie Benn, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Aleksander Barkov, Brock Boeser, Matt Knies, Nick Suzuki, and Evgeni Malkin.

    GAST (Goals Above Shooting Talent) 

    T-332nd (-0.9) in NHL

    Tied with Nathan MacKinnon. Led Patrick Kane, Sidney Crosby, J.T. Miller, Jack Eichel, Elias Pettersson, Alex DeBrincat, Eriksson Ek, Mark Stone, Jamie Benn, Travis Konecny, Matthew Tkachuk, Brady Tkachuk, Timo Meier, Andrei Svechnikov, and Aleksander Barkov. 

    Ohgren produced more shots than Stamkos, Bedard, Benn, and Barkov. His goal production rate suggests he’s in line with MacKinnon’s, albeit in a smaller sample size. He did better than Kane, Crosby, Eichel, Pettersson, both Tkachuk brothers, and Barkov. His shooting talent will only improve from here. 

    Who are Ohgren’s future linemates?  

    It's tough to say who Ohgren will play with in the next couple of years. Will Riley Heidt or Hunter Haight be ready to play a third-line role in 2026-27? Assuming the Wild doesn’t keep Tarasenko for more than a year, the Wild should expect either Heidt or Haight to join the team. 

    Neither Heidt nor Haight will be ready for a full-time top-six role. So, Guerin may be willing to extend Zuccarello as a placeholder for either of them. Will Ryder Ritchie or Adam Benak be ready to battle for a roster spot by 2028-29? We'd hope that Ohgren will be in the top six by then. 

    There should still be excitement surrounding Ohgren. He should play more games this season, and Hynes needs to maximize his scoring touch. Zuccarello is approaching his 40s and still looks like a top-six contributor. Ohgren needs to become an established scorer to increase the team's depth. Eriksson Ek will also help Ohgren continue to grow into a power forward. Ohgren has a promising career ahead of him.

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    The photos I saw of him all bulked up would make any fan enthused, especially mnfaninnc. He definitely worked on his pectoralis major.

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    I think he just needs a permanent role so he isn't worried about being sent down all the time. Let him get comfortable and form some chemistry. Comparing him to Tarasenko and Kaprizov isn't fair, why not Boldy or Zuccarello as a ceiling? Wouldn't that be nice?

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    Ohgren needs to establish it for himself.  The lines are likely these.

     

    Kap/Ek/Boldy

    Zucc/Rossi/Vlad

    Foligno/Yurov/Hartman

    Mojo/Sturm/Trenin

    Ohgren

     

    Ohgren is fighting for 4th line duty.  He should be good enough to beat out Mojo and Trenin for most games, or God help him.  

     

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    21 minutes ago, Scalptrash said:

    I think he just needs a permanent role so he isn't worried about being sent down all the time. Let him get comfortable and form some chemistry. Comparing him to Tarasenko and Kaprizov isn't fair, why not Boldy or Zuccarello as a ceiling? Wouldn't that be nice?

    Ohgren getting into the same sphere as either would be a home run.

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    I'd prefer: 

    Kap - Ek - Boldy

    Ohgren - Rossi - Vlad 

    Zucc - Yurov - Hartman 

    Foligno - Sturm - Trenin 

    Hoping Mojo spent his summer watching the wind blow 

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    1 hour ago, WildRam said:

    I'd prefer: 

    Kap - Ek - Boldy

    Ohgren - Rossi - Vlad 

    Zucc - Yurov - Hartman 

    Foligno - Sturm - Trenin 

    Hoping Mojo spent his summer watching the wind blow 

    I really like this. 

    Top Line should be top 5 in the NHL

    Its unlikely Zucc can play 1st or 2nd line minutes. 3rd line PP specialist makes sense. Maybe he can be to Yurov what he was to Kap?

    It also gives Rossi and aggressive forechecker and veteran scorer. If Ohgren can deliver its a nice line.

    That 4th line would be a wrecking ball defensively.

    I really, really like your lines!

     

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    1 hour ago, Citizen Strife said:

    Kap/Ek/Boldy

    Zucc/Rossi/Vlad

    Foligno/Yurov/Hartman

    Mojo/Sturm/Trenin

    Ohgren

    Didn’t Moose and Rossi have insane metrics when paired together last season? (No matter who the other wing was)

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    I really wonder how this is going to work with 5-6 rookies. I don't think Yurov and Ohgren start off together. Since the article is focused on Ohgren, what do we want him to learn first?

    I saw him playing slot hockey last season when up. I'd like him to learn a little more freedom. I also thought he went into a scrum too slow, start throwing the body around. There are 2 specific guys I'd like him to be around: Foligno and Tarasenko. 

    I think he should 1st start out on Foligno's line, and I could picture a Foligno-Rossi-Ohgren line. I'd like to see Ohgren start throwing the body, it's big enough. His calling card with Sweden was doing the dirty work. Foligno does that too. 

    Later in the year, I'd like to see him play significant time with Tarasenko. There are guys with great shots, and then there are guys who score with great shots. IMO, OgZ needs to learn how to score. Accuracy is often a key, but learning how to set up the shot so there's a slight screen or pulling the trigger a bit quicker would help. 

    If I were a film coach, I'd be finding old Nino tape and showing that to OgZ. Get him to fire in the home plate area, get him to dig for rebounds, get him to screen without losing a nut (maybe that's what he learns from Zuccy). 

    Some players need to be physical at the start of a game just to settle in. I think OgZ may be one of those players. Foligno doesn't always use this part of his game. Learning to pick and choose in the regular season to lean on your physicality will be a process. I'm not worried about too many goals this season, I'm more worried about him getting better. I do think he needs regular N shifts to get that done.

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    17 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

    I really wonder how this is going to work with 5-6 rookies.

    Different kind of "rookies" though. Guys coming from KHL or Euro leagues are a little different from the AHL via Canadian juniors.

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    13 hours ago, FredJohnson said:

    Different kind of "rookies" though. Guys coming from KHL or Euro leagues are a little different from the AHL via Canadian juniors.

    True, but, they aren't all going to be Kaprizov's and hit the ground running. We saw that with OgZ last season. My hope is that Yurov will be able to do that. I think we'll be pleasantly surprised by The Wall. 

    I would rank K training better than S training. But we do agree that our A training has been woeful.

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    2 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

    I would rank K training better than S training. But we do agree that our A training has been woeful.

    Agreed on all this.

    Never a dull moment for the Wild.

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    2 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

    I think we'll be pleasantly surprised by The Wall. 

    I agree.  I think the Wall will be much better behind a D-Friendly team.  He may even push Gus for the #1 role.  Will be a very interesting year.  I'm hoping that some of these young guys push for top line minutes and make decisions at the TDL extremely difficult for BG.

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    I'd like something like the below to start the season. The top line is small in size, but separating Boldy and Kaprizov will help manage Kaprizov's ice time and increase the top 6 depth. I also do not think Zuccarello, at this stage in his career, is talented enough to play on a line without Boldy or Kaprizov. Additionally, putting Ohgren with a fellow Swede (Ek) and a power forward like Boldy, both of whom can play in their own zone, could help to shelter Ohgren a bit. Similar idea with putting Tarasenko on the 3rd line with Yurov: It gives Yurov a fellow Russian to mentor him on that line, doesn't force Tarasenko to be his prime self, and Hartman can provide some toughness + the elusive right-hand shot. It also prevents a youth line of Ohgren-Yurov, which I think would be very risky for both of their developments. I see little to no risk starting Ohgren in the top 6 over Tarasenko; if anything, it could serve to improve our depth. With Brodin injured to start the year, the defensive pairings could vary, but I think Buium-Spurgeon is too small and Buium-Jiricek is too risky; ergo, Buium-Faber (and Middleton-Spurgeon have experience together).

    Kaprizov-Rossi-Zuccarello

    Boldy-Ek-Ohgren

    Hartman-Yurov-Tarasenko

    Foligno-Sturm-Trenin

     

    Buium-Faber

    Middleton-Spurgeon

    Bogosian-Jiricek

     

    Gustavsson

    Wallstedt

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    40 minutes ago, TS102 said:

    I'd like something like the below to start the season. The top line is small in size, but separating Boldy and Kaprizov will help manage Kaprizov's ice time and increase the top 6 depth. I also do not think Zuccarello, at this stage in his career, is talented enough to play on a line without Boldy or Kaprizov. Additionally, putting Ohgren with a fellow Swede (Ek) and a power forward like Boldy, both of whom can play in their own zone, could help to shelter Ohgren a bit. Similar idea with putting Tarasenko on the 3rd line with Yurov: It gives Yurov a fellow Russian to mentor him on that line, doesn't force Tarasenko to be his prime self, and Hartman can provide some toughness + the elusive right-hand shot. It also prevents a youth line of Ohgren-Yurov, which I think would be very risky for both of their developments. I see little to no risk starting Ohgren in the top 6 over Tarasenko; if anything, it could serve to improve our depth. With Brodin injured to start the year, the defensive pairings could vary, but I think Buium-Spurgeon is too small and Buium-Jiricek is too risky; ergo, Buium-Faber (and Middleton-Spurgeon have experience together).

    Kaprizov-Rossi-Zuccarello

    Boldy-Ek-Ohgren

    Hartman-Yurov-Tarasenko

    Foligno-Sturm-Trenin

     

    Buium-Faber

    Middleton-Spurgeon

    Bogosian-Jiricek

     

    Gustavsson

    Wallstedt

    Bold lineup but interesting.

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    If NoJo is on a top-6 line to start the season, it better be because the rookies ALL SUCK or 4 guys got hurt. Otherwise, Billy needs to be investigated for rigging games!

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    Ohgren just needs to play.  He will be slotted into the position he wants to play.  I personally think a Foglino, Hartman, Ohgren line would be the new GREEF line.  Just go out there and annoy the pants off the other team.  But with a line like that where does that leave everyone else.  

    The Wild have an lot of right wingers and few spots.  They also have few left wingers and too many spots.  Ohgren is a left winger and will probably get top six minutes due to lack of options on that side. 

     

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    3 hours ago, TS102 said:

    I'd like something like the below to start the season. The top line is small in size, but separating Boldy and Kaprizov will help manage Kaprizov's ice time and increase the top 6 depth. I also do not think Zuccarello, at this stage in his career, is talented enough to play on a line without Boldy or Kaprizov. Additionally, putting Ohgren with a fellow Swede (Ek) and a power forward like Boldy, both of whom can play in their own zone, could help to shelter Ohgren a bit. Similar idea with putting Tarasenko on the 3rd line with Yurov: It gives Yurov a fellow Russian to mentor him on that line, doesn't force Tarasenko to be his prime self, and Hartman can provide some toughness + the elusive right-hand shot. It also prevents a youth line of Ohgren-Yurov, which I think would be very risky for both of their developments. I see little to no risk starting Ohgren in the top 6 over Tarasenko; if anything, it could serve to improve our depth. With Brodin injured to start the year, the defensive pairings could vary, but I think Buium-Spurgeon is too small and Buium-Jiricek is too risky; ergo, Buium-Faber (and Middleton-Spurgeon have experience together).

    I like your thinking here, though I'd rather Buium start with Spurgeon mainly because he has a lot to learn that Spurgy can teach him. But, without Brodin that could leave Lambos with Jiricek which might not be wise either. Could Midsy cover for Jiricek? Maybe. Lambos has just as much to learn from Spurgy and is a little larger. 

    The point on Zuccarello, I think is valid. So, my proposal is to play Zuccy 4th line minutes, but when he plays, play him in the top 6. I think he's still crafty enough to make that work, but I don't think he can keep up over the long haul with elevated minutes. If that works, who would you move up for a few shifts to play on the Kaprizov line?

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    3 minutes ago, 1Brotherbill said:

    The Wild have an lot of right wingers and few spots.  They also have few left wingers and too many spots.  Ohgren is a left winger and will probably get top six minutes due to lack of options on that side. 

    I see this the other way around, mainly because we are so short of RHS forwards. I think both Kaprizov and Tarasenko can easily play the left side. 

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    1 hour ago, mnfaninnc said:

    So, my proposal is to play Zuccy 4th line minutes, but when he plays, play him in the top 6. I think he's still crafty enough to make that work, but I don't think he can keep up over the long haul with elevated minutes. If that works, who would you move up for a few shifts to play on the Kaprizov line?

    Hynes isn't afraid to mashup lines. I think a lot of us here are getting hung up on 4 lines when in reality, the lines will be changing constantly based on matchups, scenarios, etc. 

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    Article: The Wild Need To Establish A Role For Liam Ohgren

    Article: Ogzy Needs to Play at an NHL skill and intensity level to earn himself NHL minutes.  There's no conspiracy here.  $%#&@ Nojo is the player he's trying to beat out.

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