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  • The Wild Must Exercise Patience With Liam Ohgren


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    On Sunday, the Minnesota Wild announced that exciting prospect Liam Öhgren would return to the lineup from his stint in Iowa. 

    The most inspiring part of the news? Öhgren was going to get an opportunity in the team’s top six. In an interview with the Minnesota Star Tribune, he discussed what would be different with this opportunity than his early-season struggles in Minnesota.

    “I missed that when I was up for the first time. I didn’t have that confidence,” said Öhgren, 20. “So, it was great to be down there, playing a lot of minutes — PP, PK, everything. And obviously to score some goals and throw up some points, it was good, for sure.”

    A confident Liam Öhgren could be a massive addition to the Wild, but they’ll have to give him chances to succeed. If the Wild can exercise patience, they could unleash a considerable force for their lineup.

    Öhgren’s Early-Season Roller Coaster

    Öhgren got his first look in the top six over the weekend, but it’s been a long road. He started the season with the Wild after being one of the team’s most exciting prospects coming into the season. 

    However, the talented young winger didn’t stick on the NHL roster. In limited action, Öhgren scored no points and failed to register a single high-danger shot attempt. He also averaged less than 10 minutes per game before being sent to the AHL. To make this season a success, Öhgren would need a massive bounceback in Iowa.

    Fortunately, Öhgren responded well to his assignment in Iowa. The Swedish left-winger scored at nearly a point-per-game pace, with 12 goals and 11 assists in 23 games. In his 23 AHL games, Iowa’s opponents only held Öhgren to zero shots in a game once and had three or more shots on goal 14 times. His increased assertiveness and willingness to use his shot produced excellent results, and he seemed primed to get another shot in Minnesota. 

    Despite his resurgence in Iowa and Minnesota’s myriad injuries throughout the year, Öhgren remained in Iowa. While spots were opening on the Wild, most were in the bottom six, a role where Öhgren had struggled. Letting him thrive in Iowa was better than risking his development. While Öhgren’s situation required patience in Minnesota, it’s likely the best move. Öhgren perfectly fits the Wild’s needs when he’s playing at his best.

    A Perfect Fit For the Wild’s Needs

    If the Wild can fully unleash Liam Öhgren, he's a perfect fit for the roster. The Wild are reasonably well set with high-end skill players like Kirill Kaprizov, Marco Rossi, and Matt Boldy. However, they haven’t surrounded those players with the size and grit Bill Guerin prioritizes. 

    The Wild aspire to have the identity of a club that's hard to play against and plays with physicality. That's why players like Marcus Foligno and Ryan Hartman continue to get minutes despite their waning offensive production. It’s also why Minnesota signed Yakov Trenin for his defensive ability despite his offensive shortcomings. 

    Those players are challenging to play against, but the team isn't posing much of a scoring threat when they're on the ice. Minnesota could use another scoring threat who plays with grit. 

    If Liam Öhgren plays to his potential, he can be that player.

    Öhgren's shot, motor, and physicality are the most celebrated parts of his game. When The Athletic’s Scott Wheeler profiled Öhgren, he wrote about his offensive skill that could help the Wild, should they develop it correctly. 

    "He's a bigger, stronger player than his two contemporaries in Djurgården and while he doesn't have Lekkerimäki's dynamism or Östlund's breeziness, that doesn't make him any less interesting as the shot-and-pass, power-and-finesse combination player that he is." Wheeler wrote. "His offensive arsenal is multi-faceted and he's got some really sneaky craftiness and evasiveness to his game to complement the tools of strength over the puck/through his shot that are obvious."

    Now that Minnesota has Öhgren playing higher in the lineup, he'll have a greater opportunity to showcase these skills. Öhgren doesn't profile as a superstar, but the Wild lack a player with his skill set in their forward group. A highly competitive power forward could completely change the dynamic of Minnesota's scoring lines.

    Mixed Results In His First Action

    While Öhgren is theoretically suited for the Wild’s needs, he must deliver on his potential. The skilled forward will still have to earn his spot. We got the first taste of Öhgren playing in the top six against the Nashville Predators over the weekend, and the results were negative. 

    Still, before we analyze Öhgren’s early results, we must note that none of the Wild's players had a good game in Nashville. That is to say, take the Predators game con grano salis. We’ll use Moneypuck’s game review for all the stats we discuss.

    Let’s start with the negatives. Liam Öhgren and his linemates didn’t produce many offensive chances. Öhgren’s most common line was with Joel Eriksson Ek and Ryan Hartman, and the trio only produced .093 on-ice expected goals for. That number was fourth on the team out of the five lines that played more than two minutes together. 

    Öhgren fared even worse defensively. He was on the ice for four goals against, including two after the Wild demoted him to a line with Frederick Gaudreau and Yakov Trenin. However, the trio only played 25 seconds of ice time. 

    After a poor performance in Nashville, Öhgren needed a bounceback against the Colorado Avalanche. Just as he did when he went to Iowa, he responded. Öhgren made a play in the first period when he penetrated the zone and kicked it back to Jacob Middleton, who scored. 

     

    The assist was Öhgren’s first NHL point of the season and was the perfect way to start what ended up being a positive game. He later assisted on another goal. When looking at Moneypuck’s game review for this game, his results were completely different than they were in Nashville. Öhgren dominated puck possession with a 66.7 Corsi-for percentage and a 73.6 expected goals percentage, the best mark among forwards. He was also among the team’s top contributors in raw expected goals despite playing only 9:04 minutes.

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    Öhgren’s had a good game in Denver. It was encouraging to see how well he played, even in limited minutes. If the Wild want to see what they have in Öhgren, they’ll need the patience to give him the chance to succeed. Öhgren’s latest game was a colossal step in the right direction. Games like that could greatly benefit Minnesota in meaningful games late in the season.

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    27 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

    who's suggesting trading out Rossi for this? I know I'm saying strictly futures and maybe a contract. 

    ODC has often suggested trading Rossi, in general.

    Tuch is on a reasonable deal and in a decent role for Buffalo. I'm not sure how easily the Wild could get him with just futures, but Buffalo has been known to make questionable decisions, so perhaps they can put something together with Ryder Ritchie, Stramel, Kumpalainen, Heidt, Bankier, Ohgren or Wallstedt in the mix.

    They have a couple of defensive prospects as well. If they were aggressive in trading prospects, maybe they could work something out.

    Tuch leads their forwards in TOI. I just don't know how easily they would part with him. I agree it's not impossible to get him, just a matter of how much they are willing to part with and how much Buffalo sees him as a key part of their team.

    The Wild would need to ask themselves whether now is the best time to part with those assets and if Tuch is the best player they can add for the asset mix that would need to be sent. He's not elite, but is a good player on a good deal for now. He would need a new deal after next season if he were added.

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    3 minutes ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

    ODC has often suggested trading Rossi, in general.

    Tuch is on a reasonable deal and in a decent role for Buffalo. I'm not sure how easily the Wild could get him with just futures, but Buffalo has been known to make questionable decisions, so perhaps they can put something together with Ryder Ritchie, Stramel, Kumpalainen, Heidt, Bankier, Ohgren or Wallstedt in the mix.

    They have a couple of defensive prospects as well. If they were aggressive in trading prospects, maybe they could work something out.

    Tuch leads their forwards in TOI. I just don't know how easily they would part with him. I agree it's not impossible to get him, just a matter of how much they are willing to part with and how much Buffalo sees him as a key part of their team.

    The Wild would need to ask themselves whether now is the best time to part with those assets and if Tuch is the best player they can add for the asset mix that would need to be sent. He's not elite, but is a good player on a good deal for now. He would need a new deal after next season if he were added.

    well just to be fair to ODC, let's share his comments in this very chat - (funny i even said to leave Rossi out, but what can you🤔)

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    ok so why is it impossible to get Tuch? seriously tell me? If Buffalo says OK

    we retain half and another team picks up a 2nd round pick for a mil. 

    then we send them one of our picks (not Zeev/Yurov) and a player

    IS THERE AN ISSUE HERE?

    as for Kap - there is no more patience

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    buffalo is out of the race, they are likely needing another tear down. they will be keeping their D and their goalie is solid. maybe they are looking to get some solid prospects? let them pick from ANYONE not named Zeev/Yurov. Leave Rossi out. Who knows. It won't hurt to inquire. 

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    20 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    Comment 2

    buffalo is out of the race, they are likely needing another tear down. they will be keeping their D and their goalie is solid. maybe they are looking to get some solid prospects? let them pick from ANYONE not named Zeev/Yurov. Leave Rossi out.

    Yes, I saw that. Buffalo is likely to be looking to sell at the trade deadline, but I don't think they are looking to trade out their top line guys that have future years on their contract like Tuch. Zucker, Greenway, and Cozens are guys it sounds like they would be happy to move.

    Tage, Tuch, and McLeod seem like guys they want to keep. They haven't made the playoffs since 2011, so I'm not sure they want to put their fans through another long rebuilding process. Tuch might require quite a bit to pry away this year.

    Zucker likely could be added at a much lower asset cost to replace Johansson for 2025. He wouldn't bring the size you want, but may still be an upgrade over NoJo.

    Johansson seldom does anything useful on the PP and is outside of the top 300 forwards in 5v5 points per 60. Zucker could deliver both speed and skill.

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    Just now, Imyourhuckleberry said:

    Yes, I saw that. Buffalo is likely to be looking to sell at the trade deadline, but I don't think they are looking to trade out their top line guys that have future years on their contract like Tuch. Zucker, Greenway, and Cozens are guys it sounds like they would be happy to move.

    Tage, Tuch, and McLeod seem like guys they want to keep. They haven't made the playoffs since 2011, so I'm not sure they want to put their fans through another long rebuilding process. Tuch might require quite a bit to pry away this year.

    Zucker likely could be added at a much lower asset cost to replace Johansson for 2025. He wouldn't bring the size you want, but may still be an upgrade over NoJo.

    Johansson seldom does anything useful on the PP and is outside of the top 300 forwards in 5v5 points per 60. Zucker could deliver both speed and skill.

    all you need is a nose in the door, then see what happens. i wouldn't want to miss out on Tuch, just because we made on play on brock nelson. guess we'll see. 

    please no on zucker.

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    2 hours ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

    He's not elite, but is a good player on a good deal for now. He would need a new deal after next season if he were added.

    You're right, he's not elite, but he's one type of player we don't currently have, checks all the boxes, and would improve this team this year and in the future. He's a RHS, large bodied, fast wing, with a good shot and some power. Stramel is too far off for us and may not be as good. He is something we don't have in our top 6 but really do need.

    I could ride into the playoffs with a Zuccarello-Rossi-Kaprizov line and a Boldy-Ek-Tuch line and I think they'd do some damage. On the top line, intermixing Zuccarello with a double shifter like Foligno or Trenin a couple of times a period might be a good idea and give the guys a little protection. We saw on Monday Trenin can rip a puck. Perhaps there's more there than we realize. Trenin might be a playoff type guy.

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    1 hour ago, OldDutchChip said:

    please no on zucker.

    I think I'm in this camp too. Zucker doesn't check any boxes. LHS, speed, little grind, disappears in the playoffs. He is an upgrade over Johansson, but we're looking for the right piece and Tuch is that right piece. 

    Could you imagine using futures to get Tuch, and LTIR to get Miller? Those 2 additions would be massive. We'd be unloading our cupboard quite a bit, but heading into the playoffs would certainly be interesting. I'm still not sold on Miller yet and there'd need to be some retention, but the rumors I've seen in Vancouver is that they're looking for a top 4 defender. Could Spurgy be that guy outright? I don't think it would be a one for one, but Vancouver might not be on Spurgy's list and we'd probably have to give up a little more but get some salary retention too. 

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    6 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

    He's a RHS, large bodied, fast wing, with a good shot and some power. Stramel is too far off for us and may not be as good. He is something we don't have in our top 6 but really do need.

    I'm mostly just unsure of how much it would take without an established player going back. Would you give up Ohgren, Lambos, and Heidt for Tuch?

     

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    Just now, Imyourhuckleberry said:

    I'm mostly just unsure of how much it would take without an established player going back. Would you give up Ohgren, Lambos, and Heidt for Tuch?

    I think I was thinking a couple of 2nds and Heidt. You could also, if Lambos is ready, do something like Chizzy, Ohgren or Heidt, and a 2nd filling the player+prospect+pick equation most go for. Chizzy would help their defense. I like Lambos better, I think he's a little thicker and will be cheap longer.

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    10 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

    I think I'm in this camp too. Zucker doesn't check any boxes. LHS, speed, little grind, disappears in the playoffs. He is an upgrade over Johansson, but we're looking for the right piece and Tuch is that right piece. 

    Could you imagine using futures to get Tuch, and LTIR to get Miller? Those 2 additions would be massive. We'd be unloading our cupboard quite a bit, but heading into the playoffs would certainly be interesting. I'm still not sold on Miller yet and there'd need to be some retention, but the rumors I've seen in Vancouver is that they're looking for a top 4 defender. Could Spurgy be that guy outright? I don't think it would be a one for one, but Vancouver might not be on Spurgy's list and we'd probably have to give up a little more but get some salary retention too. 

    careful there - dare not to dream - dreams lead to disappointments 🙂

     

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    2 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

    careful there - dare not to dream - dreams lead to disappointments 🙂

    Well, Spurgy's back so it looks like that balloon popped!

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    I read the Caps are in on Nelson as well. Unbelievable to think the Caps could be in the running for the Presidents trophy this year. I'm not sold on bringing in Nelson. He's 33 years old and ready for a new contract. One thing we don't need is to make this team older and probably overpaying a 33 year old on a new contract. There has to be a better deal to be had out there.  He is sitting on 28 points in 46 games this year and he has always been inconsistent. Never been a 40 goal scorer in his career. 

    But he's 6'4 205lbs which seems to be coveted above all else on this board in particular. Russo says Billy has identified him as a target which makes me fear Billy will overstep and give another aging veteran too much time and money with a full NTC/NMC. I think we can do better. 

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    2 hours ago, MacGyver said:

    I read the Caps are in on Nelson as well. Unbelievable to think the Caps could be in the running for the Presidents trophy this year. I'm not sold on bringing in Nelson. He's 33 years old and ready for a new contract. One thing we don't need is to make this team older and probably overpaying a 33 year old on a new contract. There has to be a better deal to be had out there.  He is sitting on 28 points in 46 games this year and he has always been inconsistent. Never been a 40 goal scorer in his career. 

    But he's 6'4 205lbs which seems to be coveted above all else on this board in particular. Russo says Billy has identified him as a target which makes me fear Billy will overstep and give another aging veteran too much time and money with a full NTC/NMC. I think we can do better. 

    Nope on Nelson for me as well. 

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    18 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

    Chizzy, Ohgren or Heidt, and a 2nd filling the player+prospect+pick equation most go for. Chizzy would help their defense. I like Lambos better, I think he's a little thicker and will be cheap longer.

    I would absolutely do Chisholm, Heidt and a 2nd round pick, but that deal is light on Buffalo's end. If we would absolutely do it, it means it probably isn't close to something they would do. They might consider Chisholm, Ohgren, and Heidt.

    I agree I'd rather keep Lambos than Chisholm. I don't know that Buffalo would do any deal that doesn't include Rossi, Ohgren, Yurov, Buium or Wallstedt.

    Tuch is a 1st line productive winger for them with size. Can you imagine trading Boldy for two late 2nd round picks and a 5'10" prospect selected at the end of round 2 a couple of years ago?

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    36 minutes ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

    I would absolutely do Chisholm, Heidt and a 2nd round pick, but that deal is light on Buffalo's end. If we would absolutely do it, it means it probably isn't close to something they would do. They might consider Chisholm, Ohgren, and Heidt.

    Are you suggesting Chisholm, Ohgren, and Heidt with no picks? Or does it include a 2nd? Usually the formula is P+P+P, but I could see P+2P+P. 

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