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    The Minnesota Wild's Saturday night win over the Vancouver Canucks was necessary to turn down the heat. Losing eight of nine games, including the first four of a six-game homestand, was threatening to boil over. But the win just lifted the pot from the flame for two days. A loss tonight against the Nashville Predators could put Minnesota right back on the stove.

    If so, you'll start to hear some outcry from the fans, who won't be appreciative of a 1-3-2 or 1-2-3 homestand. We can also bet that ownership, the front office, and the coach will not enjoy that, either. In fact, we've started hearing the first rumblings of a shake-up with the Wild.

    From Friday's piece in The Athletic, Joe Smith and Michael Russo wrote:

    This is where [Bill Guerin] has to seriously look at who actually wants to be here — and who should be here. There may not be many big names available via trade, but it’s not out of the question for a hockey trade to be made where a veteran on this team is moved. That’ll send more of a jolt than picking up a middle-six or fourth-line forward.

    We don't know whether this was Smith and Russo speculating, or if they were hearing it from somewhere, but the two beat writers usually don't put stuff out there without some smoke behind it. And indeed, while we haven't heard of veterans being shopped, Russo reported on Tuesday's Worst Seats in the House podcast that he believes Guerin has called in on a potential trade for Toronto Maple Leafs forward Nick Robertson.

    If Guerin needs to move someone to shake things up, it shouldn't be too hard. Teams have dollars to spend with the rising cap, and a top-nine forward or a regular defenseman is always in demand for NHL squads.

    There's just one problem: Who can they move?

    Go to the Wild's PuckPedia page, and you're gonna see a lot of anchors and a lot of shields. Those are the players who have No-Move and/or No-Trade protections in their contracts. These aren't all bulletproof protections, and we'll break those down in a moment. Still, the Wild are incredibly restricted as to what they can or can't do to shake up their room.

    The two most obvious candidates, based on their early-season play, have the tightest restrictions. Jake Middleton ($4.35 million cap hit, minus-0.8 Standings Points Above Replacement) and Marcus Foligno ($4 million AAV, minus-0.9 SPAR) both have full-NMCs. That's total and complete control over where they'd go — or whether they'd go. Even if they were willing to move, Middleton's contract would be difficult to trade to another team, given its term (the first of four years) and his play.

    The three other full NMCs on the team make no sense to trade. Mats Zuccarello's injury makes it impossible to trade anyway, and besides, the Wild are missing his offense and leadership, and are depending on his return to right the ship. Kirill Kaprizov and Filip Gustavsson have combined for $170 million in extensions in the past five weeks.

    Right there, that's about a quarter of Minnesota's NHL roster that's completely immobile.

    So what about the No-Trade Clauses? The Wild have four of these players, and none of them has final say over where they go. That's important because years ago, Guerin showed with the Eric Staal trade that he's not afraid to be aggressive in finding a team that slips off a no-trade list. These players are:

    In theory, everyone on this list should have a taker, even when dealing with a pool of 17, 22, or 24 teams. Tarasenko can at least be a power-play specialist. Despite Hartman's antics, he's a useful, gritty, top-nine forward. Spurgeon is a 20-minute-a-night right-shot defenseman. Eriksson Ek as a third-line center would be an incredible luxury for a loaded Stanley Cup Contender. But to what benefit?

    Immediately, cross off Tarasenko as a shake-up move. A big name getting moved out might look attention-grabbing on the surface, but Tarasenko has been in Minnesota for 13 games. Is that going to rock a locker room, or would a Central Division basement dweller offloading a pending UFA be met with a shrug? The latter feels like the best guess.

    Both Spurgeon and Eriksson Ek have had relatively slow starts, but both feel too important to the team's fabric to move. John Hynes gave Spurgeon's players-only meeting at least some credit for Minnesota responding against Vancouver, and it sounds like the captain still has a handle on the locker room. Besides, the team doesn't seem prepared to give his 21 minutes a night to David Jiříček. As for Joel Eriksson Ek, the team is looking to get help for their do-it-all center, not deplete their center depth.

    Hartman makes the most sense to trade out of this group. He's got the longevity, having been there for seven years, which would make for a legitimate shake-up. But of the 17 teams he'd go to, how many of them would fear his disciplinary problems arising again? It'd have to be a few, at least. And whatever you want to say about him, he's a center with 36 shots on goal, fourth on the team. Can Minnesota spare that offense now?

    Now, for the players with no protections whatsoever. It'd feel short-sighted to move out established Under-25 players like Matt Boldy, Marco Rossi, or Brock Faber, even if that would constitute a jolt to the locker room. Presumably, anyone younger wouldn't have the clout in the locker room to send significant ripple effects. As for older players, both Zach Bogosian and Nico Sturm are injured and can't be traded.

    So now we're left with... three names. Yakov Trenin, Marcus Johansson, and Jonas Brodin.

    We see similar pitfalls to these three names as we do for the rest of the team. Trenin's contract ($3.5M AAV, UFA 2028) is a huge damper on his trade value. Johansson is a pending UFA who's one of the few forwards who are actually producing. Brodin has been with the organization since 2011, but is also the Wild's most valuable defenseman this year. He'd get interest on the market, for sure, but flipping him wouldn't constitute a shake-up. It'd be waving the white flag on the season.

    Maybe Guerin can surprise and find a way to add to the team without taking much else away. But from where the contracts stand, Minnesota is in a trade market purgatory. Their most sparable assets are either locked in to the Wild, or too unproductive/expensive to trade. Their most movable players are too integral to the team, or too young to make sense to ship out. If a shock to the system is needed to save the season, it's hard to see how the Wild can meaningfully deviate from the status quo.

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    1 minute ago, mnfaninnc said:

    Trenin has no protection according to puckpedia

    And no market value.  I’ll ask again, who is responsible for scouting players before we sign them?  I’ll assume it’s Brackett and his team

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    I thought this article was about a shake up trade, not a blockbuster. Tony's point here is that Guerin would trade off a minor piece, like a bottom 6 or bottom 4 defenseman who's been here awhile to shake things up.

    I don't think he was looking at turning it upside down. 

    That said, Pasta would be a nice piece to get, but trading Zeev and Rossi sounds a bit expensive. I assume if you did that, Ek would be on the top line with Kaprizov and Pasta. Then you have a 2nd line of Boldy-Yurov-Tarasenko? Or wait, if Yurov is included, who is the 2nd line center? Hartman? If Sturm gets back he can cover the 4th line center, but who takes the 3rd line center job? The suggested trade for Pasta sounds a lot like trading for Herschel Walker to me. 

    But, maybe something else would work for obtaining him? Boston is rebuilding, so they need to refill their cupboards. Could Pasta be available for picks and prospects? Well, we'd also need to dump salary too, and I suppose that is what Rossi helps with. 

    In the grand scheme of things, I think Hartman, Spurgeon, Brodin are the guys we would look at trading for the shake up. Probably in that order. Hartman would be in bold, but Spurgeon might be the better shake up because of his letter. Now, we're talking about affect here, not necessarily the smartest move.

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    6 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    And no market value.  I’ll ask again, who is responsible for scouting players before we sign them?  I’ll assume it’s Brackett and his team

    Trenin was Hynes' guy from Nashville, just like Freddie G was Deano's from Milwaukee

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    12 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said:

     I’ll ask again, who is responsible for scouting players before we sign them?

    It looks like one of these guys according to google AI

    • David MacLean
    • Mark Mowers
    • Richard Park 

    If you're asking who are they? I'm right with you

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    7 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

    I think he is just in charge of scouting the amateur ranks. 

    There’s a separate scouting team for current nhl’rs?  Or is Guerin making these decisions based on his gut?

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    One prospect I don't think anyone has really talked about is Oskar Olausson. We picked him up this year and he's currently at a PPG (small sample size) for Iowa and is one of the only positive +/- players on the team currently.

    '21 draft year, 1st round #28 overall. As MNFan has talked about, stockpiling upper tier prospects from around the same draft year/s could be the ticket. He's a year after Rossi and a year before Ohgren/Yurov/Haight. 

    Maybe there are some guys out there who haven't quite found their footing that are similarly aged we could be looking at. This is where Brackett needs to be putting some miles in. I'm fine with some high risk high reward trades. This could also open up cap space for the trade deadline to bring in a difference maker. Let the kids play around the core of un-tradeables.

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    1 hour ago, OldDutchChip said:

    you can see how far that model took EDM. that is a very good outcome. and oilers do it with offensive power concentrated in the very top. there is less pressure on D when you can dominate the play. it also lessens the toll on aging Brodin and Spurgy. And places Faber in the lead.

    Edmonton is a tough comparison for the Wild.  McDavid and Draisaitl are both ranked top 3.  Kirill and Pastrnak are both around 10.  Still fantastic... but the difference is noticeable and definitely impactful in the playoffs.

    Let's not forget that we have to get past Edmonton.

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    56 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

    I thought this article was about a shake up trade, not a blockbuster. Tony's point here is that Guerin would trade off a minor piece, like a bottom 6 or bottom 4 defenseman who's been here awhile to shake things up.

    I don't think he was looking at turning it upside down. 

    That said, Pasta would be a nice piece to get, but trading Zeev and Rossi sounds a bit expensive. I assume if you did that, Ek would be on the top line with Kaprizov and Pasta. Then you have a 2nd line of Boldy-Yurov-Tarasenko? Or wait, if Yurov is included, who is the 2nd line center? Hartman? If Sturm gets back he can cover the 4th line center, but who takes the 3rd line center job? The suggested trade for Pasta sounds a lot like trading for Herschel Walker to me. 

    But, maybe something else would work for obtaining him? Boston is rebuilding, so they need to refill their cupboards. Could Pasta be available for picks and prospects? Well, we'd also need to dump salary too, and I suppose that is what Rossi helps with. 

    In the grand scheme of things, I think Hartman, Spurgeon, Brodin are the guys we would look at trading for the shake up. Probably in that order. Hartman would be in bold, but Spurgeon might be the better shake up because of his letter. Now, we're talking about affect here, not necessarily the smartest move.

    you'd move Zeev, Rossi and Ohgren out (keep Yurov) and a first. the below will get you in the contender status. and closer to TDL you can look to upgrade bottom six. then MJ and Vlady fall off next year and you could dump either Foligno or Trenin and sign Panarin. Crazy - but all of our ideas are - until they are not 🍺

    That gives you - (that second line will be impossible to defend and allows Kap to go against an inferior opposing line)

    Kap Zuccy Hartman

    Ek Boldy Pasta

    Yurov/MJ Vlady Foligno

    Trenin Sturm Henny

    On D -

    Faber Brodin

    Spurge Midds

    Hunt, Bogo (Jiri)

     

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    2 minutes ago, MNCountryLife said:

    Edmonton is a tough comparison for the Wild.  McDavid and Draisaitl are both ranked top 3.  Kirill and Pastrnak are both around 10.  Still fantastic... but the difference is noticeable and definitely impactful in the playoffs.

    Let's not forget that we have to get past Edmonton.

    i have been very high on Kap as the best player in the world, but ok i'll concede for this argument, that neither Kap nor Pasta are in the top 3 (concede but won't agree 😉). But we have a wild card that EDM does not. we have Boldy. should he have the luxury of playing with two studs like pasta and kap - he will outperform Nug or Kane or whatever EDM third best Offensive player is. that's the vision - to unleash Boldy. get 3 tier one players. no one has more than two. and we'd likely have three. if i'm Bill - this is a very tempting proposal. Bill may not have a long leash to wait out yet another prospect development. he wants results, leo wants results, kap wants it too. so at some point, you have to go all in. can't have it both ways

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    1 hour ago, OldDutchChip said:

    it's been 10 years since Wild won a playoff series and yet the diehards remain faithful that success is just around the corner. not now, but in a few years. another five year plan as we await on zeev to turn into makar and yurov to be a superstar? all while wasting Kaprizov? yup - not weird - Wild!

    I remain faithful because it is enjoyable to watch hockey and cheer for a team.  It's my hope state.  I want them to be successful.  The Hershel Walker trade didn't work out too well.... well... it did for Dallas.  They used the extra picks in the draft to win several SBs.   The Panthers were already playing well into the playoffs when they added Tkachuk.  

    Add Pastrnak to the Dallas lineup and it probably makes them good enough to consistently get past Edmonton.  We are not Dallas.  I'm not against adding Pastrnak.. we just have to ensure that a team exists around him.... it is a team sport.

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    1 minute ago, OldDutchChip said:

    i have been very high on Kap as the best player in the world, but ok i'll concede for this argument, that neither Kap nor Pasta are in the top 3 (concede but won't agree 😉). But we have a wild card that EDM does not. we have Boldy. should he have the luxury of playing with two studs like pasta and kap - he will outperform Nug or Kane or whatever EDM third best Offensive player is. that's the vision - to unleash Boldy. get 3 tier one players. no one has more than two. and we'd likely have three. if i'm Bill - this is a very tempting proposal. Bill may not have a long leash to wait out yet another prospect development. he wants results, leo wants results, kap wants it too. so at some point, you have to go all in. can't have it both ways

    I'm no export and have never built an NHL roster.  But it sure is fun to speculate.  Maybe you are right.  Maybe not.  It's certainly a big move.  It's going to either put us in contention or keep us out of it for the next 10 years.  

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    1 minute ago, MNCountryLife said:

    I remain faithful because it is enjoyable to watch hockey and cheer for a team.  It's my hope state.  I want them to be successful.  The Hershel Walker trade didn't work out too well.... well... it did for Dallas.  They used the extra picks in the draft to win several SBs.   The Panthers were already playing well into the playoffs when they added Tkachuk.  

    Add Pastrnak to the Dallas lineup and it probably makes them good enough to consistently get past Edmonton.  We are not Dallas.  I'm not against adding Pastrnak.. we just have to ensure that a team exists around him.... it is a team sport.

    i remain faithful too and watch and cheer just as you do. but at some point you want results. 10 years of playoff failure (actually 25 but i know we all like to celebrate that magical run 22 years ago) is enough for fans to demand more 🙂

     

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    14 hours ago, 1Brotherbill said:

    Trade with Calgary for Kadri and their 1st pick.  Open up the prospect pool and get rid of two or three of the players that are never going to play in St. Paul.  Trade Brodin or Spurgeon or whoever wants to go plus Hiedt or Haight or Ohgren or one of the other prospects that are not all that great.

    I thought you were nuts when I first read this.... but the more I read it the more it seems like a good deal.  You gain a guy that could help the roster today.. and a #1 pick that is almost guaranteed to be an impact player on your roster.

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    2 minutes ago, MNCountryLife said:

    I'm no export and have never built an NHL roster.  But it sure is fun to speculate.  Maybe you are right.  Maybe not.  It's certainly a big move.  It's going to either put us in contention or keep us out of it for the next 10 years.  

    totally agree. it could work out as good as it did for Nashville 😜 

     

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    1 minute ago, OldDutchChip said:

    i remain faithful too and watch and cheer just as you do. but at some point you want results. 10 years of playoff failure (actually 25 but i know we all like to celebrate that magical run 22 years ago) is enough for fans to demand more

    It would be nice to see MN finally win something.  Our last pro title for anything was MLB in 1991.  Ugh.... that is a long time.

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    4 minutes ago, MNCountryLife said:

    It would be nice to see MN finally win something.  Our last pro title for anything was MLB in 1991.  Ugh.... that is a long time.

    🍻

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    32 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    you'd move Zeev, Rossi and Ohgren out (keep Yurov) and a first. the below will get you in the contender status. and closer to TDL you can look to upgrade bottom six. then MJ and Vlady fall off next year and you could dump either Foligno or Trenin and sign Panarin. Crazy - but all of our ideas are - until they are not 🍺

    That gives you - (that second line will be impossible to defend and allows Kap to go against an inferior opposing line)

    Kap Zuccy Hartman

    Ek Boldy Pasta

    Yurov/MJ Vlady Foligno

    Trenin Sturm Henny

    On D -

    Faber Brodin

    Spurge Midds

    Hunt, Bogo (Jiri)

     

    I think I could get behind this.

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    4 hours ago, 0 Stanley Cups said:

    Maybe we can trade for Boston's first line center, Khusy!  Game tying goal and shootout winner.

    He's definitely not the first line center, but he's had a nice run the last few games with Elias Lindholm out due to injury.

    Khusnutdinov was averaging under 12 minutes per game, with just 2 faceoff attempts and 1 assist in 7 games, prior to Lindholm missing time.

    I'd certainly take him over Pitlick!

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    6 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

    it's been 10 years since Wild won a playoff series

    I’ve been a wait and see guy for almost a decade. It’s becoming hard to believe that the aging older core is going to hang in there long enough for any significant playoff push. The Wild need to either go all in or sell and build around the younger emerging core. This season’s start should be enough of wake up call for management to make a careful assessment of the plan they’ve concocted. Keeping KK was a win now move, unless they get extremely aggressive that’s not looking good. 

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    50 minutes ago, Burnt Toast said:

    I’ve been a wait and see guy for almost a decade. It’s becoming hard to believe that the aging older core is going to hang in there long enough for any significant playoff push. The Wild need to either go all in or sell and build around the younger emerging core. This season’s start should be enough of wake up call for management to make a careful assessment of the plan they’ve concocted. Keeping KK was a win now move, unless they get extremely aggressive that’s not looking good. 

    agree. and let's add to this that both kap and boldy have their peak value. kap is linked to age and him being prime kap for the next four years before the drop off. while boldy is contract related - his cheap contract is done in same span of four years (meaning he can walk or be fairly expensive to retain - he won't come cheap again). Ek is also i think 3-4 years from needing another contract, and he may be a fast aging player too given the style of play. so who knows how all of that plays out.

    i think it's time to strike. To me, Zeev is on a timeline different from Kap's and Boldy's. if we push in our chips with Zeev, well then move Kap and Boldy and rebuild. Otherwise, Zeev is still a shiny "best" D prospect out there, everyone screaming that he is....so use that fame and hype. bring someone to help kap and boldy now. yes you'd potentially be letting makar 2.0 go, but you give the team and all of us a chance for SC. 🍻

    how likely is this to happen though? NOT A CHANCE 😜

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    On 11/5/2025 at 10:41 AM, Pewterschmidt said:

    There’s a separate scouting team for current nhl’rs?

    Typically there is. One group focuses on amateurs for draft or even FA signings (like in Russia where some guys fall through the cracks).

    Another group focuses on professional players, I believe these guys are in charge of the N and A, and possibly the S. We haven't really had anyone scouring the K, but that should also happen.

    To me, the scouting team looks fairly light. I do think we need more eyes in the field, not just looking at analytics. We need interviews and face to face meetings. The analytics should merely suggest an eye test, not the other way around where you pick players based on analytics. 

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