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  • The Wild Can Learn Valuable Lessons From Edmonton's Stanley Cup Run


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    Luke Sims

     

    The Edmonton Oilers are playing in the 2024 Stanley Cup Final. The Minnesota Wild are not. 

    Every team's goal is to win the Stanley Cup, and the Oilers built a contender after years of struggling to gain traction before the 2019-20 season. So, what can the Wild learn from the best team in the West this year? 

    There are some obvious differences between the two teams, but some similarities that are worth exploring. While one team is in the Cup final and the other is scheduling tee times, both teams fired their coach this season, have questionable depth on defense, and have a tricky goaltending situation. The big difference is Edmonton's overall offensive depth. The Oilers are better up front and better down the lineup. 

    If we start with the offensive side of the puck, there is a glaring difference in one player: Connor McDavid. While having the best player in hockey doesn’t hurt, the Oilers have depth behind him in Leon Draisaitl. Having two of the top five players in hockey as your No. 1 and 2 centers gives the Oilers a huge advantage over the Wild. 

    Draisaitl finished his third consecutive season with 100+ points and his fifth overall. McDavid has had four straight seasons with over 100 and seven overall. Together, they make a dynamic 1-2 punch for the Oilers. 

    Teams should retain their homegrown centers

    Joel Eriksson Ek is a suitable No. 1 center for the Wild. However, there isn’t a universe where Wild management wouldn’t take McDavid or Draisaitl over Eriksson Ek. While Eriksson Ek developed slowly offensively, he just hit 30 goals for the first time in his career and is in the middle of his prime. 

    Oh, and his contract is dynamite for the Wild. Minnesota has Ek on a contract that pays him an average annual salary of $5.25 million. For a 200-foot player who just scored 60-plus points for a second consecutive year, that’s pretty darn good for a center. 

    For context, the Los Angeles Kings acquired Pierre-Luc Dubois in the offseason and signed him to an eight-year, $68 million deal. PLD played in all 82 games and scored 40 points. That’s only 10 more than Marcus Johansson scored last season. 

    Marco Rossi is Minnesota’s other homegrown center. The rookie scored 20 goals in his first full season with the big club and proved he belongs in the NHL. Rossi was a prolific junior scorer and finally showed that skill in an elevated role. The Wild have been starved for skilled centers for almost the entire existence of the franchise. Now, with a young, sturdy, and skilled center in the fold, naturally, it doesn't make much sense to dangle him on the trade block in hopes of getting something better externally. 

    Great teams have players who elevate their teammates

    Ryan Nugent-Hopkins is a 100-point player because he’s on McDavid’s line. Zach Hyman is not scoring 50 goals unless he’s on McDavid’s power play line. McDavid makes his wingers drastically better players and raises the bar for his teammates. 

    Mats Zuccarello benefits from Kirill Kaprizov’s superstar ability. While having Zuccy alone on a line with Rossi and Marcus Johansson is okay, Zuccarello is a much more effective player on Kaprizov’s line. 

    Kaprizov’s presence also allows the Wild to create a more dynamic lineup. His superstar presence allows the Wild to create a productive top line with guys like Rossi and Zuccarello, who are not top-line players. The Wild have chosen to make a top-heavy first line, but there were times when Kaprisov was paired up with Rossi and Zuccarello, which was successful. That allows the Wild to put guys like Eriksson Ek and Matt Boldy down the lineup to try and add scoring depth. 

    Having two guys who can elevate players around them, like McDavid and Draisaitl, allows the Oilers to have players like Hyman and Nugent-Hopkins find success.

    The Oilers also gambled on a few players who were productive this year. They took chances on guys like Corey Perry, 39, and Evander Kane, who’s had some off-the-ice issues. There are NHL teams that would not sign players with their baggage. However, Perry and Kane are helping Edmonton on their playoff run. 

    Even contenders must navigate goaltending predicaments

    The Oilers have a peculiar goaltending situation. Jack Campbell began the season as Edmonton’s starter. However, they sent him to the AHL after five games. Edmonton has been relying on streaky 25-year-old youngster goalie Stuart Skinner to carry them throughout the season and in the playoffs. 

    Marc-Andre Fleury is also known for his streaky play, but that is mainly due to his advanced age. If you compare Fleury’s numbers to Skinner’s, there is not a significant difference. Skinner may have been consistently better, but where Fleury flashed his athletic ability with some showstopping saves when the Wild were making their ill-fated postseason push.

    Skinner has a 2.50 goals-against average and a sub-.900 save percentage. He also is 11-5 and starting in the Stanley Cup Final. While teams can ride a hot goalie in the playoffs, the Oilers found a way to work around an unstable goaltending situation. Fleury finished the year with a 2.98 goals-against average and a .895 save percentage. Not much worse than Skinner. 

    The Wild must maximize their strong defensive corps

    Minnesota objectively has a better defensive group than the Oilers. You can argue that none of Edmonton’s bottom-four defensemen are championship-caliber. Darnell Nurse, Brett Kulak, and Philip Broberg are all okay. Cody Ceci is a frustrating thing that exists for Oilers fans. 

    None of those guys instill confidence as a defensive or offensive force. However, Edmonton’s top pair of Mattias Ekholm and Evan Bouchard are dynamic. They make a perfect fire-and-ice combination. Ekholm is one of the best defensive defenders in the league, and Bouchard is one of the most electric blueliners in the world. 

    The Wild have many solid defensive guys, like Brock Faber, Jared Spurgeon, and Jonas Brodin. However, none of them are certified puck slingers who can be counted on as elite offensive playmakers. Faber almost scored 50 points as a rookie, and he has the potential to become as productive as Bouchard. However, he’s not there yet. 

    The Oilers are a top-heavy team that allows its superstar centers and defensemen who cover up for inequities down the lineup and in net. The Wild probably have a more complete team than Edmonton. However, when you have the best player in the world, he makes up for a lot of things. 

    It’ll be hard for the Wild to replicate Edmonton’s method because the top five talents don’t just grow on trees. However, the Wild should be looking for a more dynamic defenseman who can create offensively, or they hope Faber continues to grow his offensive game. The team should also hold on to the homegrown centers that show skill and make their teammates better. And the Wild don't need to harp to much on the goaltending situation as the Oilers prove, you don't always need a hot goalie (but it probably helps). 

    All stats and data via HockeyDB, Evolving Hockey, and Capfreindly unless otherwise noted.

     

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    I think what the Wild can learn most is patience.  The rumors of Rossi or Gus leaving are just rumors (and don't really need to be acted on now).  How many times did it take Edmonton to even make the finals with the McDavid/Drai led team?  You aren't given cups just because the best players fall into your laps.  

    The Wild team has issues less so with top end talent but depth options.  Look what Faber and Rossi were able to do in a year.  But also look at what a team $15 mil in the hole had to rely on (Addison/Lucchini/Letteri/Beckman/etc.).  An off-season later, you hopefully have Ohgren and Khus (Heidt even) carving out those roles and maybe more.  That is asking a lot for new guys all to hit their marks, but the makings of a team are peaking out underneath the depth issues that can be resolved in time.

    I would be less favorable if Rossi and Faber didn't hit, but they did.

     

    *There goes my eternal realistic optimism again*

     

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    5 hours ago, Citizen Strife said:

    There goes my eternal realistic optimism again

    The MN Wild is a team on the rise, plain and simple. How far they will make it the next few years is going to be fun to watch. A lot rides on extending KK and how fast Yurov adjusts. There’s a very good chance he will be a big difference maker from the start. 

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    7 hours ago, Citizen Strife said:

    You aren't given cups just because the best players fall into your laps.  

    The Wild team has issues less so with top end talent but depth options.

    You sure do have a hell of a lot better chance of winning a cup by getting those top 1-6 picks in the first round but yes you have to do other things right too. Once again this team isn’t going anywhere without those top picks via a proper rebuild. I don’t agree with the top end talent thing. This team doesn’t have enough top end talent. They have 1 very good line and it falls off pretty quickly after that. We have a lot of players that would be playing on the 3rd or 4th line on a cup contender. Look at how much top end talent EDM and FLA have and compare that to our team, it’s an enormous difference. 

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    *looks up the stats pages for Edmonton and Florida just in case*

     

    The thing to note is that in both Edmonton and Florida's cases, it isn't all just "Top 10 guy this, Top 5 guy that."  Yes, you have 1-2, or maybe an extra they grabbed via trade, but in both their top scoring, you had people from 2nd or 3rd round beating out higher ranked people.  Middle 1st rounders like Lundell and Tarasenko (via STL) are there too.  So it isn't just all top 10 guys everywhere.  Edmonton's goalie is from the 2nd round (Bob is undrafted, so take that for what its worth in Florida's case).

    I've said this before: talent is talent, regardless of where you pick it up.  Your point is valid.  They do need either 2-3 people to break into that 75-80 point range, or a couple people to go from 20s-30s into the 40s-50s.  Either bring up the ceiling or bring up the floor.  

    Main problem with the floor approach (what they are forced to do via the buyouts and Leipold being...EH about the tank idea) is that the defense and goalies must bear the brunt of the offense not competing with the McDavids, Pastrnaks, etc.  Well, the bottom fell out last year with Fleury and Gus both sucking wind as Top 55-60...cant win like that.

    I would say while it would be nice to settle for higher end offensive upside, I'd rather they fix the goaltending and defense.  The Wild can win close games.  They can't win blowouts.  Those 10-8 Vancouver games won't happen more than once a year or so...

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    9 hours ago, Will D. Ness said:

    PK has been huge for the Oilers too.

    Yea you’re right, they just showed a stat for them being at 94%.

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    17 hours ago, Mateo3xm said:

    You sure do have a hell of a lot better chance of winning a cup by getting those top 1-6 picks in the first round but yes you have to do other things right too. Once again this team isn’t going anywhere without those top picks via a proper rebuild. I don’t agree with the top end talent thing. This team doesn’t have enough top end talent. They have 1 very good line and it falls off pretty quickly after that. We have a lot of players that would be playing on the 3rd or 4th line on a cup contender. Look at how much top end talent EDM and FLA have and compare that to our team, it’s an enormous difference. 

    Let's just say we stay the course. You're right, we do have a lot of players who would be bottom 6 players on a cup contender. But we also have quite a few guys who would be top 6 coming in. They're probably not ready for that role yet, but that's where they're penciled in at. 

    It is much easier to build a team using top 5 picks to do it in a 4 year succession. And then, you probably trade out current guys who are useful and obtain multiple 1st round picks in that time frame. However, that's not the avenue we chose, and these guys we picked are getting close. 

    When comparing the 2 teams, maybe in a couple of years, Edmonton will still be top heavy, we will be a depth team. My hope is that we will be a high end depth team that can score with any line, not just hope to hold opponents even.

    I also got to watch and see how another really good team was able to shut down that top line for a period last night. Edmonton had those 5 guys going out every other shift, and then 5 other guys just trying to hold down the fort until the 1st 5 regained their breath. It looked like FL was able to roll their lines better and were fresher for it.

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    On 6/9/2024 at 10:30 AM, mnfaninnc said:

    When comparing the 2 teams, maybe in a couple of years, Edmonton will still be top heavy, we will be a depth team. My hope is that we will be a high end depth team that can score with any line, not just hope to hold opponents even.

    Edmonton is kind of screwed IMO.  I think they are in worse shape than the Wild.  I don't see them blowing it up next year but rather riding 97 & 29 for all it's worth.  They are good enough though to contend but it will be hard as we are seeing in these finals.

    Top heavy will be an understatement, and with all the mismanagement it looks like they will have their version of the Parise/Suter handicap for years.

    The Wild are going to be more like Florida.  Ek/Boldy/KK97 just might be better than Barkov/Tkachuk/Verhaege.  Offensively, yes.  Defensively, no.  Net?  Maybe.   

    Depth wise, we can't hold a candle though.  Bennett and Lundell are solid.  Their whole team is solid.  

    Two years from now, we will still be on the young side... although you know Bennett might be a prime FA target for us after they sign Lundell and he becomes expendable and maybe too expensive for them.  (They gotta sign Ekblad and Verhaege)

    Also - I am going to miss CapFriendly damnit.

     

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    On 6/8/2024 at 6:47 PM, Citizen Strife said:

    *looks up the stats pages for Edmonton and Florida just in case*

     

    The thing to note is that in both Edmonton and Florida's cases, it isn't all just "Top 10 guy this, Top 5 guy that."  Yes, you have 1-2, or maybe an extra they grabbed via trade, but in both their top scoring, you had people from 2nd or 3rd round beating out higher ranked people.  Middle 1st rounders like Lundell and Tarasenko (via STL) are there too.  So it isn't just all top 10 guys everywhere.  Edmonton's goalie is from the 2nd round (Bob is undrafted, so take that for what its worth in Florida's case).

    I've said this before: talent is talent, regardless of where you pick it up.  Your point is valid.  They do need either 2-3 people to break into that 75-80 point range, or a couple people to go from 20s-30s into the 40s-50s.  Either bring up the ceiling or bring up the floor.  

    Main problem with the floor approach (what they are forced to do via the buyouts and Leipold being...EH about the tank idea) is that the defense and goalies must bear the brunt of the offense not competing with the McDavids, Pastrnaks, etc.  Well, the bottom fell out last year with Fleury and Gus both sucking wind as Top 55-60...cant win like that.

    I would say while it would be nice to settle for higher end offensive upside, I'd rather they fix the goaltending and defense.  The Wild can win close games.  They can't win blowouts.  Those 10-8 Vancouver games won't happen more than once a year or so...

    The easiest way to get those top 1-6 picks is to rebuild. Florida managed to get their top line Center(Barkov) and their top line Dman(Ekblad, who underperformed this past season to injury) via a rebuild. They got the rest of their top 6 picks because players want to go to that location and not get the shit taxed out of them. It doesn’t matter how you get them as long as you get them. That’s what’s going to win you a Stanley Cup. Mn isn’t a desirable destination so you have to draft those types of players.

    5 of their top players were picked in the top 6 so what are you talking about that it isn’t all top picks? That’s a huge amount of picks in the top 1-6 lol

    Florida did phenomenally by signing, drafting and trading for players. 

     

     

    Picks on Florida between 1-6

     

    Sam Reinhart

    Draft: 2014, BUF (2nd overall), 1st round, 2nd pick

    Matthew Tkachuk

    Draft: 2016, CGY (6th overall), 1st round, 6th pick

    Aleksander Barkov

    Draft: 2013, FLA (2nd overall), 1st round, 2nd pick

    Sam Bennett

    Draft: 2014, CGY (4th overall), 1st round, 4th pick

    Aaron Ekblad

    Draft: 2014, FLA (1st overall), 1st round, 1st pick

     

     

    Late 1st rounds or lower picks

    Carter Verhaeghe

    Draft: 2013, TOR (82nd overall), 3rd round, 21st pick

    Vladimir Tarasenko

    Draft: 2010, STL (16th overall), 1st round, 16th pick

    Gustav Forsling

    Draft: 2014, VAN (126th overall), 5th round, 6th pick

    Anton Lundell

    Draft: 2020, FLA (12th overall), 1st round, 12th pick

    Brandon Montour

    Draft: 2014, ANA (55th overall), 2nd round, 25th pick

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