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  • The Wild Are Still Trying To Break Into the Western Conference Elite


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    Robert Brent

    Although they’ve lost five of seven games, it's difficult to call the Minnesota Wild's season anything but a success. The team is in a playoff spot and is far outpacing expectations for the club coming into the season. However, the Wild have started losing recently due to injuries and poor special teams play. They're 4-6-0 in their last ten games but still have some encouraging wins.

    Even with Kirill Kaprizov sidelined, they pulled off a 3-2 overtime victory over the Dallas Stars on Dec. 27.  The Wild have struggled against Dallas recently, losing nine of their last 10 matchups. Brock Faber ended the game in overtime for one of the team's signature wins.

    The win against Dallas was exciting in a vacuum, but it's part of Minnesota's even more critical storyline. The Wild are looking to make the jump this year to become one of the Western Conference's elite teams, and a comeback win over a consistent contender like Dallas is a crucial step in that process.

    Results Lacking Against Conference Elite

    Minnesota may have the third most points in the standings with 48 in 37 games. However, a concerning trend lies beneath the team’s sterling record. The team is having a difficult time beating their conference counterparts. So far this season, the Wild are 3-7-1 against teams that hold a Western Conference playoff spot. In those 11 games, they’ve been outscored 39-19. 

    The Wild’s inability to fully break into the conference elite has been an issue for the team for years. The team has regularly made the playoffs, reaching the postseason seven of the last nine seasons. However, they have failed to advance to the second round in any of those appearances. It’s been impossible to call the Wild a bad team, but they also haven’t been good enough to win in the playoffs.

    If Minnesota aspires to join the league’s elite and contend, it must start doing better against quality competition. Those aspirations are also reasonable. The team is ready for success with an elite defense, a strong young core, and a bonafide superstar in Kirill Kaprizov. The Wild’s competitive window is open. 

    However, the Wild must still prove they can beat the West’s best teams.

    How the Wild Stack Up

    What separates the Wild from the top teams in the Western Conference? 

    When you analyze the qualities of great teams that consistently make playoff runs and finish at the top of the conference, there are some clear areas where the Wild struggle and other categories where they belong in the top echelon. 

    Special teams are Minnesota’s greatest weakness. The penalty kill gets a lot of coverage because Minnesota ranks 30th in the league in penalty killing with a 70% rate. 

    That's abysmal, but their powerplay isn't doing them many favors. The Wild rank 24th in powerplay percentage, converting on 17% of their chances. One way to get a general understanding of a club's special team's acumen is to combine their power play and penalty kill percentage and see how it stacks up. Minnesota’s combined special teams number is 87.9. That's the worst among teams in a playoff spot in the Western Conference.

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    (Source: ESPN)

    The Wild aren’t just last; they’re lagging behind the Edmonton Oilers by a significant margin. Everyone who watches Minnesota knows that special teams are an issue, but this is an emergency. Fortunately, the Wild can overcome this problem with one of their main strengths: limiting offense at even strength.

    According to Moneypuck.com, the Wild rank second in the NHL at even-strength expected goals against per 60. Another Western Conference team, the Los Angeles Kings, is the only team with a better rating than Minnesota. 

    The Wild have spent a lot of resources building their defensive corps, and it’s paying off by making the team an elite defensive force. Minnesota’s defense has allowed them to get better quality of play in most games. They currently rank ninth in expected goals percentage, along with other top Western Conference teams like the Kings, Oilers, Stars, and the Colorado Avalanche.

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    (Source: Moneypuck.com)

    We’ve looked at a few key stats in a vacuum, but this includes every game they play. However, the Wild must perform against the conference’s best teams. Let’s examine how they fare in those games they’ve played. 

    The table below shows the results of every game the Wild have played this season against a Western Conference team currently in a playoff spot. It shows each team’s expected goals and the actual result.

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    (Source: Moneypuck.com)

    If each game went “as expected,” Minnesota’s record would stand at three wins and eight losses, equal to the actual results of 3-7-1. The Wild’s struggles against Western Conference playoff teams are not a result of bad luck. Instead, they’re struggling to reproduce their positive results against quality opponents. 

    The Wild Can Flip the Script

    Luckily for the Wild, there is always a chance to produce better results. They took their first step towards doing so over the weekend when they defeated the Stars without Kaprizov. The Wild struggled with key injuries before the bombshell dropped that Kaprizov wouldn't be playing due to a lower-body injury. Kaprizov has been the Wild's sole steady presence offensively this season, and the team has struggled to score. 

    The win showed that this year's Wild team has the potential to be different. Minnesota floundered last season when they were overwhelmed with injuries, which sunk their season. Despite overwhelming odds, the Wild pulled out an overtime win that showed resilience against a top team. While it's great to beat teams the Wild should beat, they'll need wins against the one like Dallas to truly break into the conference's elite tier. 

    The Wild can cement their status as an elite team by further developing their identity. The best teams in the league often have an easily identifiable trait about their style of play. The Oilers have enough offense to compensate for their defensive shortcomings. The Winnipeg Jets have Connor Hellebuyck in their crease. The Vegas Golden Knights ruthlessly improve their roster. Minnesota is masterful defensively. A couple of weeks ago, the Wild traded for David Jiříček, signaling further commitment to their defensive prospects. 

    Suppose the Wild can slightly improve their depth scoring and special teams while continuing to be one of the best defensive teams in the league. Then, they should improve its stock as one of the West's best teams. The pieces are in place; they must put it all together.

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    6 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    i think FF would cost a lot more than Heidt, Lambos and a pick. Might need to use Yurov or Zeev. 😉 

    Shooter managed not to put any of them in the Jiricek trade, I think he can manage to do the same here. Those guys are premium chips, it would take someone really, really special (cough Tkachuk cough) to part with those guys. 

    Preds are about to tear some things down, and I don't think Buffalo is far behind. Heidt is a really good piece in that timeline, Lambos also fits. I'd be willing to part with quantity in other prospects like Haight/Bankier, but I'm keeping those other guys if Forsberg is the catch. Now, if David Edstrom was included in the package, I might be able to part with one of the premium players.

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    11 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

    Shooter managed not to put any of them in the Jiricek trade, I think he can manage to do the same here. Those guys are premium chips, it would take someone really, really special (cough Tkachuk cough) to part with those guys. 

    Preds are about to tear some things down, and I don't think Buffalo is far behind. Heidt is a really good piece in that timeline, Lambos also fits. I'd be willing to part with quantity in other prospects like Haight/Bankier, but I'm keeping those other guys if Forsberg is the catch. Now, if David Edstrom was included in the package, I might be able to part with one of the premium players.

    i guess i haven't seen FF lately, but he has/had a great game and the stache! He often plays physical and i think would compliment Kap perfectly. Since it's just pretend - let's do this!! 

    • Wild send Faber and Rossi and Heidt or Haight or anyone with last name beginning in H
    • Preds send Josi and FF

    Yeah Yeah money needs to be worked out BUT Preds do it to get younger

    Wild do it to give them and Kap a cup window for now and keep their future core duo (Zeev and Yurov)

    Shiiiiit i like it!

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    1 hour ago, OldDutchChip said:
    • Wild send Faber and Rossi and Heidt or Haight or anyone with last name beginning in H
    • Preds send Josi and FF

    Josi is 34. Are you sure you want to do $9m over 3+ years for a guy this old? He is 6'2" 201, so I think he'll hold up pretty well, but this is where I think we differ:

    1. Brock Faber is trending up, his seasons will get better
    2. Roman Josi is trending down, he's on a pace for about 25 less points this season. In fact, last night it was Skjei that was their offense.
    3. The money doesn't work out, but if Spurgeon is on LTIR, well, it doesn't work for the rest of this year at all. It would work next season. 
    4. Handedness here doesn't really matter because Josi plays his off side pretty regularly. 

    My conclusion is, I think keeping Faber helps us more for the next 5 years than acquiring Josi. I really like having the good young youth in the defense of Buium, Jiricek and Faber. I think that gives us an advantage in TOI, durability over the season, and a little extra juice in OT. 

    There is an argument that Josi would be better this year and next, but then you've got some unknown/tough end of career years for Josi. But, Forsberg likely helps us for all 5 years left on his deal. For the money, I think we go for Forsberg, and package together a nice run of futures and keep the premium guys, and right now, Rossi is a premium guy. He has passed Boldy on the scoresheet. 

    Sometimes swinging big is the best way to go, sometimes smaller tweaks are. In this case, I think going with the smaller is a better way to go. 

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    Preds are at 29 points on the season. Sabres at 32. 

    Preds have to jump 6 teams in the west and are 14 points beneath 8th place Flames. Sabres are dead last in the east and have to jump 8 teams but are only 8 points out. 

    At the Jan. 1 date, I'd have to say both should be looking at tee times in mid June, and should be preparing for the future. Preds have about $8m in dead cap, so they could use a little cap help. Sabres are just a conundrum. On paper they should be way better than they are. Could they pull off the St. Louis miracle from a few years ago? Doubtful.

    My guess is that both Trotz and Adams are concluding that they are sellers. At what time do you sell, though? For me, I'd say Trotz may sell now. Adams seems more patient. I think that means that Forsberg could be had. 

    What would a Forsberg give the Wild? He's kind of gritty but puts up points. Immediately, he'd be 4th in points with 9-21-30, and he's also a -11. Is that due to the team? Probably. But, he's also an LW RHS, a guy with a really good shot. We're missing that kind of guy. Hartman's shot is way too inconsistent. 

    At 6'1" 205, he's got a good sized frame. This would be a good target. He's making $8.5m for the next 5 seasons. With Capflation, that is a decent deal for a guy who can put up numbers. He's also 30, maybe a little older than optimal, but with that age, perhaps he is a bit less expensive.

    Do Trotz and Guerin have a relationship? I think they do respect each other. I'm not sure if they've dealt much. Perhaps they can get something going pending Spurgeon's upcoming MRI?

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    5 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

    Josi is 34. Are you sure you want to do $9m over 3+ years for a guy this old? He is 6'2" 201, so I think he'll hold up pretty well, but this is where I think we differ:

    1. Brock Faber is trending up, his seasons will get better
    2. Roman Josi is trending down, he's on a pace for about 25 less points this season. In fact, last night it was Skjei that was their offense.
    3. The money doesn't work out, but if Spurgeon is on LTIR, well, it doesn't work for the rest of this year at all. It would work next season. 
    4. Handedness here doesn't really matter because Josi plays his off side pretty regularly. 

    My conclusion is, I think keeping Faber helps us more for the next 5 years than acquiring Josi. I really like having the good young youth in the defense of Buium, Jiricek and Faber. I think that gives us an advantage in TOI, durability over the season, and a little extra juice in OT. 

    There is an argument that Josi would be better this year and next, but then you've got some unknown/tough end of career years for Josi. But, Forsberg likely helps us for all 5 years left on his deal. For the money, I think we go for Forsberg, and package together a nice run of futures and keep the premium guys, and right now, Rossi is a premium guy. He has passed Boldy on the scoresheet. 

    Sometimes swinging big is the best way to go, sometimes smaller tweaks are. In this case, I think going with the smaller is a better way to go. 

    My strategy is to ice the best team possible now. Getting both Josi and FF is a fantasy, but getting one of them is not. I'd go for FF to pair him with Kap. I think FF for me is a better overall get than both Tuch and Tkachuk and may cost less. Knowing that Billy dealt with Nashville previously - this may be something that is not entirely out of discussion. I would stay away from O'Reilly, as i think Nash will likely dangle him, and focus on FF. 

     

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    On 12/30/2024 at 9:25 PM, Burnt Toast said:

    He’s far from a finished product

    I think that is the key sentence right there for Marat.  The guy is only 22 yet has already solidified himself as a lock down center.  Let the team work on his stick skills and offensive side of the game.  He should develop into a very solid player.  Let time dictate where he ends up in the lineup.  

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    15 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

    Knowing that Billy dealt with Nashville previously - this may be something that is not entirely out of discussion.

    I believe that was under the previous administration while Trotz was still coaching. Are you referencing the Kunin trade?

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    1 hour ago, MNCountryLife said:

    Let the team work on his stick skills and offensive side of the game. 

    From what I can tell, he's got some really nice sneaky passing skills, but his shot is very inconsistent. The goal he scored was decisive and he caught the puck very well, but a lot of other shots have dribbled off the stick. This is where he needs help offensively, because having a decent shot will open up passing lanes. If I were playing him defensively, that would be the guy I'd want shooting on my goalie. His shot is worse than early on Granlund. 

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    22 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

    I believe that was under the previous administration while Trotz was still coaching. Are you referencing the Kunin trade?

    just in general i thought there was a link between Billy and Nash. 🤔 maybe not but still ...perhaps a call wouldn't hurt

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    21 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

    just in general i thought there was a link between Billy and Nash. 🤔 maybe not but still ...perhaps a call wouldn't hurt

    With the good news on Spurgeon's injury, I think that's just not in the cards for this year unless there is another catastrophic injury for LTIR. 2-3 weeks is not much and we can probably backfill that position internally. We'd have to get Nashville to retain (not sure about retention rules, but they also have a lot of dead cap on their books) 50% at least for this year and then send them about $4.25m in salary. 

    I think Shooter likes the product he has and wouldn't be willing to overpay. 52 points in 39 games isn't a bad amount of points. Just keep banking points until we get into the playoffs. But, Forsberg would be an excellent fit!

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    On 1/3/2025 at 8:24 AM, mnfaninnc said:

    With the good news on Spurgeon's injury, I think that's just not in the cards for this year unless there is another catastrophic injury for LTIR. 2-3 weeks is not much and we can probably backfill that position internally. We'd have to get Nashville to retain (not sure about retention rules, but they also have a lot of dead cap on their books) 50% at least for this year and then send them about $4.25m in salary. 

    I think Shooter likes the product he has and wouldn't be willing to overpay. 52 points in 39 games isn't a bad amount of points. Just keep banking points until we get into the playoffs. But, Forsberg would be an excellent fit!

    i am predicting good things for the Wild with this lineup

    EK Kap Zuccy

    Rossi Boldy Forsberg

    Foligno Trenin Guady

    Nash get some kind of pick/prospect/MJ 🙂

     

     

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