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    Publicly, the Minnesota Wild's brass are saying the right things.

    Following just their second season in a decade of failing to make the playoffs, the Wild didn’t have much cap or roster space this summer to meaningfully improve their team. Returning almost the same roster next year does not exactly excite their rabid fan base, which is hungry for a long playoff run.

    Even with mostly the same roster, head coach John Hynes seems optimistic that plenty of internal candidates can improve their chances this year with bounce-back seasons. He's not entirely wrong, whether that be through improved health or performance. But a quick look around the Central Division makes you wonder if that will even be enough.

    The Central looks to be turning into a gauntlet for the Wild. A wild card playoff berth is always an option, but there’s a reason coaches and GMs put so much stock in their standing within the division. Each division in the Western Conference receives three automatic bids to the playoffs, with the remaining ten teams vying for the final two wild card spots.

    The math is easy: focus on the three spots available for the eight teams within the division versus the randomness that can be the two wild card spots available for the remaining ten teams in the conference.

    It’s easy to see why the focus starts within your own division. However, while the Wild mostly treaded water this summer, nearly everyone around them improved their outlook or remained a Stanley Cup contender.

    Let’s start at the top, where the Colorado Avalanche and Dallas Stars look again to be the cream of the crop in the division. Even if you want to scrutinize the merry-go-round of the blue line situation in Dallas, the Wild are not close to challenging them for a higher finish within the division.

    And with a single two-sentence paragraph, the Central division playoff locks are down to one. Last season, the Wild were among the favorites to finish in the top three. But this year? It’s quickly becoming a different story.

    Let’s start with the other three teams the Wild finished behind last year. They plummeted to a sixth-place finish in the division. The Winnipeg Jets and Nashville Predators qualified for the playoffs, and while both were first-round exits, they were far and away better teams than Minnesota.

    Winnipeg finished 23 points ahead of the Wild. While some key pieces departed in free agency this month, it’s difficult to see the Wild bridging that gap, even if their vets stay healthy and improve.

    The Predators might have been the biggest winner in free agency, inking Steven Stamkos, Jonathan Marchessault, and Brady Skjei to long-term contracts. While those deals may start to sour towards the end, Nashville is a much-improved team now compared to the one that finished 12 points ahead of Minnesota.

    Suppose Minnesota gets a bounce-back season from Ryan Hartman, Marcus Johansson, and Frederick Gaudreau, plus better injury luck for Jared Spurgeon and Marcus Foligno. Still, does anyone think it would be enough to bridge that 12-point gap and then some? For a team that will likely be a favored dark horse Stanley Cup contender, most likely not.

    The St. Louis Blues are the only team that finished ahead of the Wild in the Central last year that Minnesota could reasonably believe they have a shot at catching.

    But it’s not just the teams who finished ahead of them who improved their chances this summer. For almost a decade, the Arizona Coyotes were a near lock on the calendar to secure at least one point, most likely two. However, with their move to Utah, new owner Ryan Smith has signaled those days are over. With the trade for top-pair defenseman Mikhail Sergachev and a slew of other notable free-agent signings, Utah seems poised to take a big step this season.

    And while Chicago remains a bottom-five team going into the season, it’s difficult to see them repeating their 52-point campaign with their additions to surround phenom Connor Bedard with an NHL-caliber roster.

    Hynes is publicly saying the right things. Just last week, during his appearance on KFAN radio station, Hynes pointed to the disappointing offensive seasons of a few veteran forwards as evidence that they can bounce back.

    “We still believe in the guys," he said. "The guys that we have on the roster, they’ve got to be better. And I’m excited to have some conversations with guys now that our team is basically through free agency.”

    Hynes highlighted Hartman’s past success with Kirill Kaprizov and Mats Zuccarello and his return to being a top-line center, giving them the potential to diversify their offensive options. However, Hartman hasn’t produced like a top-line center each of the past two years, even with ample opportunity to remain there. It's tough to say whether returning to playing alongside Kaprizov alone will revitalize his game. 

    Then there are the recurring injury concerns with the heavily relied-on veterans on the roster. Hynes can hope Spurgeon, Jonas Brodin, and Foligno can put together a full season. However, the odds of all three doing so are extremely low.

    Spurgeon missed 66 games last year due to injury, which was a trend more than a blip. The Wild captain has missed at least 17 games due to injury in four of the past five seasons. Foligno also missed at least 17 games in that same period. Jonas Brodin’s injury history is even more concerning, as the recently turned 31-year-old has missed at least 20 games in four of the last five seasons.

    Relying on improved play from three players who have experienced short stints of success over the past decade is a tough sell. Add to that the avalanche of injuries their veteran roster is saddled with, and the task looks nearly impossible.

    But even in a scenario where everything goes right for Hynes and the Wild this year, the Central division is only getting deeper and more difficult to compete in. It’s more likely the Wild will find themselves slipping further down the standings this year than climbing back into contention.

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     Hynes is CLUELESS w his take on the Coasters and Injury laden Vets.  The Fans need to prepare themselves for a rough season as the template has been set w Hynes experience w Team USA.  The fact an American team under his watch did not Medal is a complete embarrassment.  Hynes history of not playing young talent over scrubs will play out all year long.  It’s a good bet Heidt will be sent back to WHL in favor of the dud Johansson, not to mention Ohgren will get screwed for Freddy.   Lmao .  Hynes will also dismantle the Wilds version of the Perfection Line Boldy Ek Kap.  It’s gonna be a disaster you can bank on the MN MESS. This team needs the Denver Coach starting next year if they hope for any future success.   

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    Nashville bought the farm one everything all at once.  I can see them competing for the top spots.  However, even in a depleted state most of the season, the Wild were able to handle the Coyotes, Blues, and Hawks most games last year. Those teams didn't dramatically alter their depth (at least not like Nashville did). It all matters what their defense and PK can do.

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    22 minutes ago, Citizen Strife said:

    Besides, if it ends up being doom and gloom, they get another Buium or maybe better pick...

    quick fix

    Besides, if it ends up being doom and gloom, they get another over hyped prospect, loose kaprizov, and become irrelevant for another decade

    yeap

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    1 minute ago, OldDutchChip said:

    quick fix

    Besides, if it ends up being doom and gloom, they get another over hyped prospect, loose kaprizov, and become irrelevant for another decade

    yeap

    Well sounds like, according to you, if we don't give him the C and win a cup Kap is gone. We better trade him for everything we can get now instead of him walking off for nothing.

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    Agreed that the Wild will have a big task making the playoffs from the Central.  I can't find a link, but there's a 24-25 standings prediction that actually has the Wild at 100+ points and second behind Dallas in the division. Not sure what that was based on, but it seems way too optimistic. 

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    Being completely fair, this team isn't going to be anything. At best they squeak in the playoffs and get bounced in the 1st round.

    Start playing the youth, let some of these vets sit in the box. They need to show kap they can compete and the reality is they need to figure out which prospects are legit and which are hype.

    With all the money handed out for bottom 6 guys and low level d men, deals for the young guys showing they will make it the wild will not have this crazy amount of cap space alot seem to think they will.

    Hopefully some of these prospects end up as studs and the wild can figure out a way to trade a few of the high priced bottom 6 vets.

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    31 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    quick fix

    Besides, if it ends up being doom and gloom, they get another over hyped prospect, loose kaprizov, and become irrelevant for another decade

    yeap

    Works for you on NHL2K?

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    The wild an others keep moving the goal posts. Billy came on an it was competitive rebuild and come out of buyouts strong and ready to go.  Now the pr minions are asking for another 3-4 years to be Stanley cup competitive.  Ridiculous. 10 years of a non competitive Billy’s friends all get jobs team . A prospect pool of middle of road prospects. No money or flexibility after buyouts . A jacked up front office an coaching staff . Yet all they need is a few more years . 
        The wild aren’t going anywhere if the gm is stagnant. His only idea is to keep doing the same . Billy is out there telling everyone they are going back to the old lines of washed up vets that never worked and never will .  Brilliant hockey mind. 
        This 10 yr competitive rebuild is an absolute joke.  Vegas wins cup in 5. Other teams take a few years to reset. Yet we just keep signing crap that doesn’t work and selling the fans Fred and Jo Jo. . The wild were an absolute embarrassment last year an will be this year. Little spoiled babies getting bullied.  Kappy won’t stick around to be bullied an embarrassed with Billy’s misfits . 
       

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    I might have an outlier position but I think we are going to be competitive.  We might have the best line in hockey next year and our defense will be massively improved if everyone is healthy and close to form.

    Secondary scoring is TBD.

    Special teams is TBD.

    Goaltending is TBD.

    I think we are going to be in games and these TBD's are the deciding factor.

    Young guys are going to improve and play with more confidence.  Depth guys are going to be better.  Coaching should be implemented better and outside of Zucc and Fleury, we don't have any aging talent in decline.

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    I understand Hynes maybe wanting to diversify the lineup, but please do not play Hartman as 1C. 
     

    Id like to see a full season of Kk-Ek-Bolds and hope that the secondary scoring is better than last year (it should be).

     

    I think if the D is healthy, it will be fine. I think the goaltending can’t be as bad as it was last year. Big question is the depth scoring. But I’d force the competition by injecting some youth and hope they figure it out and let your big guns play together. They were so dominant!

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    I'll just say this. I don't think they'll make the playoffs, partly because of the improvement of the other teams in the central, but mostly it will be coaching.

    How many times last year did the wolves 'need' a win only to not show up at all and get their asses kicked. To me that's coaching. 

    They got rid of player and fan favorite Darby and bring in the new guy Caupano, who I've heard nothing good about accept from Guerin and Hynes. Likely another bad move.

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    3 hours ago, IllicitFive said:

    Well sounds like, according to you, if we don't give him the C and win a cup Kap is gone. We better trade him for everything we can get now instead of him walking off for nothing.

    good one. i did say he should be a captain (but obviously for you that is not logical, ok) and never said that it's a must that we win SC this year. And if he walks, you genius want NOTHING for him? got it. is it you Billy? 

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    3 hours ago, bisopher said:

    Agreed that the Wild will have a big task making the playoffs from the Central.  I can't find a link, but there's a 24-25 standings prediction that actually has the Wild at 100+ points and second behind Dallas in the division. Not sure what that was based on, but it seems way too optimistic. 

    wild are guaranteed bottom  3 place in their division, perhaps as i pointed out before - they will battle for last place. anyone who is predicting 100+ season is a moron. we are bringing the same goal tending tandem this year. the same horrible pair of goal tenders that yielded below 900 saving percentage. and given that we only have 1.5 lines that can play offense, our goalies will be tested often, so yeah.....

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    2 hours ago, Will D. Ness said:

    I might have an outlier position but I think we are going to be competitive.  We might have the best line in hockey next year and our defense will be massively improved if everyone is healthy and close to form.

    Secondary scoring is TBD.

    Special teams is TBD.

    Goaltending is TBD.

    I think we are going to be in games and these TBD's are the deciding factor.

    Young guys are going to improve and play with more confidence.  Depth guys are going to be better.  Coaching should be implemented better and outside of Zucc and Fleury, we don't have any aging talent in decline.

    wow there is a lot of optimism with this take 🙂

    i just don't see our secondary scoring being anything but a negative, which will allow the opponent to keep targeting our first line. this may lead to a down year for Kap and Ek dipping below 30 goals. 

    Goaltending was monstrous last year so i can't agree with a TBD grade, and lean to grade it as RED/ALERT/Ship-is-sinking grade. 

    Young guys are always improving, but i don't foresee an improvement that will be drastic enough to matter. 

    Our aging talent is there beyond Zucc and Fleury. It's Harty (he may not be old, but the way he plays may catch up to him, MJ is still on the team, Freddy has always looks old, Brodin has been injured and is getting a bit older, Spurge is old and coming back from injury, Foligno is both old and breaking, Midds - hahahah he is just bad period so you can put him in that "old/aging" category. I mean that is not a pretty group!

    sorry but just a bit pessimism to level out the happy thoughts

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    33 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    good one. i did say he should be a captain (but obviously for you that is not logical, ok) and never said that it's a must that we win SC this year. And if he walks, you genius want NOTHING for him? got it. is it you Billy? 

    I'd recommend putting the bottle down and trying to read what I typed and then typing out a coherent response. You have said the C would be a big step into keeping him (He probably won't be given the C, not the way it works). Also if he walks, that would be FA, you do understand that if a player leaves in FA you don't get anything back right? You keep saying he's going to leave, (which implys his choicextherefore end of contract, therefore the wild get nothing in return.) So, genius, you are implying that since he will walk (where'd we get nothing due to the above), I am asking you, should we just trade him so we get something? Between you and Dean I'm thinking the wild will shutter the doors and you won't have to worry about it. With all the anger, doom, and gloom, why not bandwagon a team like the avs, or the knights. I mean my goodness, I am yet to read 1 thing you actually like about this team and organization. 

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    20 minutes ago, IllicitFive said:

    I'd recommend putting the bottle down and trying to read what I typed and then typing out a coherent response. You have said the C would be a big step into keeping him (He probably won't be given the C, not the way it works). Also if he walks, that would be FA, you do understand that if a player leaves in FA you don't get anything back right? You keep saying he's going to leave, (which implys his choicextherefore end of contract, therefore the wild get nothing in return.) So, genius, you are implying that since he will walk (where'd we get nothing due to the above), I am asking you, should we just trade him so we get something? Between you and Dean I'm thinking the wild will shutter the doors and you won't have to worry about it. With all the anger, doom, and gloom, why not bandwagon a team like the avs, or the knights. I mean my goodness, I am yet to read 1 thing you actually like about this team and organization. 

    argh fine, here we go let me help you with your coherency issues, but bottle stays!

    Well sounds like, according to you, if we don't give him the C and win a cup Kap is gone.

    i did say he should be a captain (but obviously for you that is not logical, ok) and never said that it's a must that we win SC this year.

    We better trade him for everything we can get now instead of him walking off for nothing.

    And if he walks, you genius want NOTHING for him? got it. is it you Billy? 

    Does above help to understand or you need more help? maybe try picking up a bottle - it may help!

    Next up - 

    You have said the C would be a big step into keeping him (He probably won't be given the C, not the way it works).

    how does it work genius? do tell? does he have to be "true" minnesotan or speak perfect english or what? i am curious! 

    Also if he walks, that would be FA, you do understand that if a player leaves in FA you don't get anything back right?

    i do, but i don't think you and your pals do. 

    So, genius, you are implying that since he will walk (where'd we get nothing due to the above), I am asking you, should we just trade him so we get something?

    we should have prioritized Kaprizov. gave him a C and boost the team this year and not wasted a year. trading him is the worse possible scenario, but after our Idiot GM did nothing, this becomes a very real possibility. Get in or still cloudy? 

    I am yet to read 1 thing you actually like about this team and organization. 

    apologies, let me fix that for you - 

    Update on state of Wild

    Prospects - pipeline is bursting with young talent! Imagine if you team has Makar, Fox, Orr and Bourque! Well Wild fans no longer need to image because in Comes Buium, O'Rourke, Hunt and Lambos. There is also a can't miss goalie who is slated to become our number 1 by 2032 so that alone should put the league on notice. Be warned!

    What about our favorite Austrian? oh just wait - he put on 5 lbs and is now at 175 and is ready to rumble with the best of them! Expect great things from him, potentially surpassing his monstrous career year of wait for it - 40 pts 

    Rejoice those that loved the commercials with your favorites like Midds, Freddy G, MJ, Harty, Foligno - they are all back and still on the team because we knew you loved them. 

    Get ready for amazing time as your team battles for top spot in Western Conference and looks to make this the year of the Wild. 💩  There!

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    3 hours ago, Will D. Ness said:

    I might have an outlier position but I think we are going to be competitive.  We might have the best line in hockey next year and our defense will be massively improved if everyone is healthy and close to form.

     

    "Spurgeon missed 66 games last year due to injury, which was a trend more than a blip. The Wild captain has missed at least 17 games due to injury in four of the past five seasons. Foligno also missed at least 17 games in that same period. Jonas Brodin’s injury history is even more concerning, as the recently turned 31-year-old has missed at least 20 games in four of the last five seasons."

    Just another reason Big Jake's new contract makes sense.

     

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    Yeah, durability with older guys is an issue. MN/Guerin went hard securing veteran depth while young guys develop and arrive. 

    I did not see Trenin or Midds as depth signings for fragile underwhelming guys. They're both at a solid age and important roles. Fred and NoJo provide plenty to piss and moan about but it's one last season and only 2M worth of cap space. 

    We just need to be patient and hope MN's players don't jack around this off-season thinking they're gonna be 2nd in the Central automatically. That's kinda how it looked like they played early last season and they got slapped back. I'm not gonna complain the next couple months. I'm optimistic MN's young guys will be hungry and poised to replace NoJo or Fred. 

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    5 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

    wow there is a lot of optimism with this take 🙂

    i just don't see our secondary scoring being anything but a negative, which will allow the opponent to keep targeting our first line. this may lead to a down year for Kap and Ek dipping below 30 goals. 

    Goaltending was monstrous last year so i can't agree with a TBD grade, and lean to grade it as RED/ALERT/Ship-is-sinking grade. 

    Young guys are always improving, but i don't foresee an improvement that will be drastic enough to matter. 

    Our aging talent is there beyond Zucc and Fleury. It's Harty (he may not be old, but the way he plays may catch up to him, MJ is still on the team, Freddy has always looks old, Brodin has been injured and is getting a bit older, Spurge is old and coming back from injury, Foligno is both old and breaking, Midds - hahahah he is just bad period so you can put him in that "old/aging" category. I mean that is not a pretty group!

    sorry but just a bit pessimism to level out the happy thoughts

    Maybe a little optimism but over the top.  I don't think early 30's is old.  Is Spurg over 35?  If so then maybe add him to the geezer list.  

    Gus is the X factor for sure though.  If he plays like the first year, we in business... the second, we screwed.

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    4 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

    argh fine, here we go let me help you with your coherency issues, but bottle stays!

    Well sounds like, according to you, if we don't give him the C and win a cup Kap is gone.

    i did say he should be a captain (but obviously for you that is not logical, ok) and never said that it's a must that we win SC this year.

    We better trade him for everything we can get now instead of him walking off for nothing.

    And if he walks, you genius want NOTHING for him? got it. is it you Billy? 

    Does above help to understand or you need more help? maybe try picking up a bottle - it may help!

    Next up - 

    You have said the C would be a big step into keeping him (He probably won't be given the C, not the way it works).

    how does it work genius? do tell? does he have to be "true" minnesotan or speak perfect english or what? i am curious! 

    Also if he walks, that would be FA, you do understand that if a player leaves in FA you don't get anything back right?

    i do, but i don't think you and your pals do. 

    So, genius, you are implying that since he will walk (where'd we get nothing due to the above), I am asking you, should we just trade him so we get something?

    we should have prioritized Kaprizov. gave him a C and boost the team this year and not wasted a year. trading him is the worse possible scenario, but after our Idiot GM did nothing, this becomes a very real possibility. Get in or still cloudy? 

    I am yet to read 1 thing you actually like about this team and organization. 

    apologies, let me fix that for you - 

    Update on state of Wild

    Prospects - pipeline is bursting with young talent! Imagine if you team has Makar, Fox, Orr and Bourque! Well Wild fans no longer need to image because in Comes Buium, O'Rourke, Hunt and Lambos. There is also a can't miss goalie who is slated to become our number 1 by 2032 so that alone should put the league on notice. Be warned!

    What about our favorite Austrian? oh just wait - he put on 5 lbs and is now at 175 and is ready to rumble with the best of them! Expect great things from him, potentially surpassing his monstrous career year of wait for it - 40 pts 

    Rejoice those that loved the commercials with your favorites like Midds, Freddy G, MJ, Harty, Foligno - they are all back and still on the team because we knew you loved them. 

    Get ready for amazing time as your team battles for top spot in Western Conference and looks to make this the year of the Wild. 💩  There!

    I am genuinely curious, are you actually just having trouble reading what is written and following logic or trying that hard to miss it? Yes if he walks away we get nothing. And by your standards of not giving the C, surrounding him with star talent (cap space is a thing my dude) he wont resign. I am ASKING, should we just just trade him then?  Maybe a bottle will help me reach your level of not following a basic train of thought.

    What team has Makar, Orr, Fox and Borque? Your Nhl 24 team? You understand thats not real life right? Pretty sure Wall is slated to take the reigns next year, you know development is important, especially with goalies, but you are right, 8 years out.....

    Fav Austrian, the one who put up 20 goals and finished 6th in calder voting? Yeah, I think he might be ok to keep. But sounds like you wanna get rid of him, ok then. If freddy is 4th line at 2 mil, deal, hopefully he isn't playing hurt all year. MJ has one year left, wish he was gone myself.  Midds as a 3rd pair guy who can move up, there are much worse options out there. Fligno, yes aging out, contract may be a problem, but again, if 4th line grinder, less minutes, could be ok.

    Here is you chance, I have asked you to lay it out before but you never have answers, just complaints. What should they do with the roster? Who to keep? Who to trade and who to get in return? Also, ok, fire Billy, who do YOU want to hire? Please go back to beginning of offseason, any options available you can pick from. Since you seem to know so much more than "me and my pals" please take the chance and flex that big brain of yours and educate us. I am looking forward to reading about the GM and players you would have gotten and how you would have gotten them all, while being under the cap and having a full team.

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    1 hour ago, Will D. Ness said:

    Maybe a little optimism but over the top.  I don't think early 30's is old.  Is Spurg over 35?  If so then maybe add him to the geezer list.  

    Gus is the X factor for sure though.  If he plays like the first year, we in business... the second, we screwed.

    jared is 34 i believe so he is getting up there, add to that uncertainty that comes with big injury and other aging benefits - that means he is likely a geezer now

    Gus.....not sure not sure. i wouldn't bet on him any more than i would bet on MAF and that is our core tandem. That is wild. 

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    1 hour ago, IllicitFive said:

    I am genuinely curious, are you actually just having trouble reading what is written and following logic or trying that hard to miss it? Yes if he walks away we get nothing. And by your standards of not giving the C, surrounding him with star talent (cap space is a thing my dude) he wont resign. I am ASKING, should we just just trade him then?  Maybe a bottle will help me reach your level of not following a basic train of thought.

    What team has Makar, Orr, Fox and Borque? Your Nhl 24 team? You understand thats not real life right? Pretty sure Wall is slated to take the reigns next year, you know development is important, especially with goalies, but you are right, 8 years out.....

    Fav Austrian, the one who put up 20 goals and finished 6th in calder voting? Yeah, I think he might be ok to keep. But sounds like you wanna get rid of him, ok then. If freddy is 4th line at 2 mil, deal, hopefully he isn't playing hurt all year. MJ has one year left, wish he was gone myself.  Midds as a 3rd pair guy who can move up, there are much worse options out there. Fligno, yes aging out, contract may be a problem, but again, if 4th line grinder, less minutes, could be ok.

    Here is you chance, I have asked you to lay it out before but you never have answers, just complaints. What should they do with the roster? Who to keep? Who to trade and who to get in return? Also, ok, fire Billy, who do YOU want to hire? Please go back to beginning of offseason, any options available you can pick from. Since you seem to know so much more than "me and my pals" please take the chance and flex that big brain of yours and educate us. I am looking forward to reading about the GM and players you would have gotten and how you would have gotten them all, while being under the cap and having a full team.

    argh i understand that he walks and we get nothing! that was sarcasm my friend. i been saying given the state of things - he will surely walk and we will start thinking about shipping him out starting this very year (to save us from same Gabby situation), but this is worse! much worse! this is a guy that we could have prioritized, optimize his skill, give him help and showed him that we matter NOW. let me tell you he will not waste his prime years being patient in MN or to be the next mentor for the young underachievers. Kaprizov is a TOP 5 player and will have a chance soon to dictate where he plays. teams would drool over him. what do we do to help our cause? did we give him a C? did we trade for a proven player that would help him NOW? did we show him that we matter? after failing to make the playoffs, we are in the even deeper shit hole. But you think that is fine per course? This is NOT how you manage situation surrounding a player with that much importance to your franchise. to follow same blueprint as one does with expansion team or rebuilding team is not what needed. instead we continue with same path, and pile up middle picks that may or may not be good. notice - GOOD not GREAT. none of them are great. so while you applaude the GM and the scout for picking the next GOOD defender or the next GOOD 2nd pair winger, i'll be a little less incline to do that - because this is done at the expense of Kaprizov. That is the bottom line. We cannot predict what he will do, but to put yourself in the worse situation and not do a single F#cking thing to address the most important priority is insane. Billy and the entire group of his moronic goons should have been fired by now, but same old same old. Let's wait and see - grit buy in OUR guys. F#ck man - i don't care whose guys they are, i just care to see winners. 

    fine for your Qs - 

    What team has Makar, Orr, Fox and Borque? Your Nhl 24 team? That was sarcasm again. I will refrain from doing that again. But its been a theme that people have been over hyping our prospects for some time now, so let's pump the breaks a bit. Maybe until they play a little? Let's not compare any of our D prospects to proven future hall of famers. 

    So yes Fire Billy. Hire ME. I am brilliant. 🍻

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    29 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    argh i understand that he walks and we get nothing! that was sarcasm my friend. i been saying given the state of things - he will surely walk and we will start thinking about shipping him out starting this very year (to save us from same Gabby situation), but this is worse! much worse! this is a guy that we could have prioritized, optimize his skill, give him help and showed him that we matter NOW. let me tell you he will not waste his prime years being patient in MN or to be the next mentor for the young underachievers. Kaprizov is a TOP 5 player and will have a chance soon to dictate where he plays. teams would drool over him. what do we do to help our cause? did we give him a C? did we trade for a proven player that would help him NOW? did we show him that we matter? after failing to make the playoffs, we are in the even deeper shit hole. But you think that is fine per course? This is NOT how you manage situation surrounding a player with that much importance to your franchise. to follow same blueprint as one does with expansion team or rebuilding team is not what needed. instead we continue with same path, and pile up middle picks that may or may not be good. notice - GOOD not GREAT. none of them are great. so while you applaude the GM and the scout for picking the next GOOD defender or the next GOOD 2nd pair winger, i'll be a little less incline to do that - because this is done at the expense of Kaprizov. That is the bottom line. We cannot predict what he will do, but to put yourself in the worse situation and not do a single F#cking thing to address the most important priority is insane. Billy and the entire group of his moronic goons should have been fired by now, but same old same old. Let's wait and see - grit buy in OUR guys. F#ck man - i don't care whose guys they are, i just care to see winners. 

    fine for your Qs - 

    What team has Makar, Orr, Fox and Borque? Your Nhl 24 team? That was sarcasm again. I will refrain from doing that again. But its been a theme that people have been over hyping our prospects for some time now, so let's pump the breaks a bit. Maybe until they play a little? Let's not compare any of our D prospects to proven future hall of famers. 

    So yes Fire Billy. Hire ME. I am brilliant. 🍻

    And the players you wanted to surround Kap with, while filling a roster and staying under the cap? What would ME have done so different in your mind? From the stuff you post pretty hard to know what's sarcasm and what's not. All of it seems to be under the same nonsense category of "the wild are a trash organization" that you type every time. 

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