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    Phillip Garrett

    Naturally, people expect an article about the Minnesota Wild from Hockey Wilderness’ writers. However, today, I would like to discuss a topic outside of the Wild that I think is very important as it affects not only hockey fans but the sport as a whole. 

    On the very popular social media site YouTube, there is an ever-growing community of hockey content creators (Eck, Hockey Psychology, OhNyquist, Jonathan Hawkey, and many more) I and thousands of other NHL fans have been following for years. These content creators specialize in creating quick, easy-to-digest news and commentary about what has been happening around the NHL multiple times a week. Over the past few years, their dedication has successfully created an ever-growing community of hockey fans on YouTube. 

    The point of discussion today is not the channels themselves, per se, but their future. Over the last week, many NHL content creators on YouTube have been demonetized. For those who don’t know what that means, demonetization is when a YouTuber can no longer make money from ad revenue on their videos. 

    This can range from one video to the entire channel, which is a big deal for creators since YouTube and its content are likely a big part of how they make money. With their content being demonetized, they are working hours creating these videos just for them not to see a single penny. That can be extremely disheartening and will likely lead to these channels no longer creating content. There are many reasons why demonetization can happen, and if you want to learn more, this article goes more in-depth on the issue. 

    However, today, I want to discuss getting demonetized due to copyright.

    When someone on YouTube uses intellectual property that is not theirs, the YouTube automated algorithm or the original copyright owner will often create a “copyright claim.” That’s usually not the end of the world for the creator since it allows them to fix the issue by removing the section that breaks YouTube's copyright policy and reverses demonetization. However, this has not been the case for many NHL YouTubers. Their entire videos are being claimed, leaving the creators with no option but to lose the money. 

    Don’t get me wrong; YouTube’s policy and demonetization are good in the abstract. YouTube has them to keep the site safe and ensure that creators aren’t stealing other people's content. This policy sounds like it prioritizes creators and their rights, but there have been many controversies over how YouTube handles copyright and demonetization over the company's 19 years of operation. 

    That said, I am not a YouTuber and don’t have the experience to discuss the nuances of the copyright policy and what is fair use. However, I know there has been a history of abuse from other creators and companies using YouTube’s copyright system to claim others' content, even if it falls under fair use. This type of abuse of this system is what many NHL YouTubers claim is happening from the NHL and not by an automated program. 

    Since the YouTubers have been vocal about their issues with the NHL, Vancouver Canucks writer Noah Strang has reported that the issue affecting the YouTubers was a glitch in the automated system, which has been resolved. 

    On the other hand, channels like Eck are still saying their videos are being claimed. I don’t know whether the NHL is targeting YouTubers or not. Instead, I want to shine a light on the situation and help these hard-working creators. So, I recommend you check out the videos below that explain what is happening by a couple of the NHL channels themselves for more information. 

    Eck: The NHL is killing this channel. Sad News. & Update on my Fight against the NHL…

    The Entertainment Guy: A Discussion on Copyright

    These NHL channels have been a huge boon for the game, especially for the younger community of hockey fans, including myself. That’s why I am writing to you today as a hockey fan and would like to share my testimony about the importance of these channels.

    None of you readers know this, but I am a Wild fan who lives in Dallas. Much of my family is from Minnesota, so my father ensured that I was raised right and turned on every Wild and Vikings game while I was growing up. That’s why I grew to love the game of hockey, and especially the Minnesota Wild. 

    The Vikings and Wild have been an important part of my life for as long as I can remember. That said, there aren’t many opportunities to play the game of hockey in Texas. So, growing up, I never got to learn how to skate or feel what it was like to play on a hockey team (no schools play hockey here). My lack of personal experience with hockey eventually led to a three- to four-year falling out with the sport once I got to high school. I started to care about other things and other sports, which, looking back, I can’t imagine ever doing again.

    This is a drawn-out way of saying that I had forgotten the game and no longer had the time or energy to pursue watching hockey on my own. However, roughly three years ago, I stumbled upon a channel called The Hockey Guy (I highly recommend you check out his videos). 

    The video that caught my attention discussed the Zach Parise and Ryan Suter buyouts. I clicked on the video because Parise was my idol growing up. It was at that moment I started to care again. I started to keep up with the league and the Wild again and tuned into the Wild’s 2021-22 season opener (the first game I had seen in a long time). I almost haven’t missed a game yet. 

    Since then, I have subscribed to numerous hockey channels like Eck, Hockey Psychology, OhNyquist, and Jonathan Hawkey, to name a few. These channels fueled my love for what I consider the best sport on the planet, so much so that I learned how to skate, play hockey weekly, and even eventually applied to write for a hockey website myself. I attribute where I am today and my love for the game to these channels, and I know I’m not the only one, which is why I am so passionate about helping these channels. 

    There is a considerable market for NHL content on YouTube since the league rarely invests in social media. So, people stepped up and have brought thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of people back to the game of hockey, including myself. 

    So, whether or not the NHL is doing this on purpose, please head over to these channels I have linked to and show them your support. My love and understanding of the game have only grown since joining the hockey YouTube community, and the same could happen for you. The larger these channels grow, the larger the NHL fanbase becomes, and that’s a great thing in my book.

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    To me, this is a strange article about stuff I wasn't even aware existed. I don't generally go onto YouTube for NHL content, though, I did use it to try and do some draft research on year (but none of these sites were used). 

    I don't really understand why articles now, on this site, need to have imbedded video content of some highlight, or why putting an X quote in the middle of a piece has any significance if it isn't from Russo. 

    Fact is, I can barely post an emoji, and really haven't got much of an idea of what each emoji means. So, to tell me about de-monetizing anything just shoots way over my head. I don't particularly like podcasts either, what's wrong with good old fashioned radio? Also, thanks for those who have posted pics for me when I mentioned a reference. Believe it or not, they are usually entertaining (pics or gifs).

    But, what Phillip is saying here is a pet peeve of mine: The NHL does very little to help grow the sport. They go down the old fashioned channels while most other sports are passing them by. They don't take criticism well, so I could see them blocking video for people who are critical of them, and that category is like a huge buffet. Why wouldn't you want this exposure? 

    It's probably not ever going to be my media outlet of choice, but if it's growing the game in areas where the NHL doesn't reach, maybe the NHL should be listening and encouraging. We don't even know if they are discouraging it since we don't really know who is pulling the copyright claims. 

    Now, just for reference, I occasionally tune into YouTube. I've got 5 subscriptions, 1 is the Wild channel, another is the baby Wild. I rarely get to them ever with time constraints. So, I'll just ask: Do you guys out here in HW land actively use YouTube as your media outlet? And if so, what other than The Wild do you count on it for (just general categories are fine)?

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    I like morning cuppa hockey on you tube. It’s a decent daily rundown , good guests..  However all the media is so Canada biased. I’m tired of every story is about a Canadian team. Mainly Toronto Edmonton. . How does the nhl grow when all they do is talk about teams in another country that I’m guessing most in USA don’t care about.  Frank Serevali said he’s worked in Canadas media and there is a definite anti Americanism in the nhl media and front offices.  . Canadians are insecure about the fact the one thing they are good at is slipping away. . So they have to go out everyday and talk about how great they are until the playoffs prove them wrong. Then rinse and repeat next year.

       So I do watch content from other teams fan bases because you don’t get any real news from national media unless it’s Conner mcdirty crying about something or how Toronto is the greatest ever and no need for playoffs . The NHL good ole boys are a bunch of insecure Canadians . They are not growing the sport. Viewership is down . No one I know cares to hear how great Canadians think they are day after day. The nhl is in a decline . They’ve taken the toughness and emotion out of the game and made it fake wrestling. Where guys in Toronto decide games. Like that’s not going to be a problem with gambling. Hockey is going the way of nba. Just watch LeBron not play defense while the media is telling you you’re watching something special. That’s the new hockey. Manufactured b.s by insecure Canadians. 

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    You tube doesn't really make sense to me in the way it pays creators based on subs and views likes comments  because a lot of those are kids or maybe foreigners from other countries  that will never purchase the products or services of the advertisers .

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    First thing you have to come to terms with is the NHL has no F's to give when it comes to the fans. They only care about the $. Clicks on You Tube takes clicks away from their NHL.com site. This is also why their games are spread all over the streaming universe. Sold to the highest bidder. They don't care if you get to see them or have to spend $200 a month to see all the games they got theirs up front. 

    If there is something the NHL has done recently that is fan friendly I guess I missed it. 

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    2024-2025 Numbers Game (48 Games Played)

    Record: 28-17-4; (60 pts, 3rd in Central, 5th in Western Conference, 10th in NHL, 4-6 in L10)

    

    Goals For: 2.90 Per Game (19th in NHL)

    Goals Against: 2.88 Per Game (T-11th in NHL)

    PP: 19.1% (23rd in NHL)

    PK: 70.3% (30th in NHL)

     

    Gustavsson: 18-10-3, 2.63 GAA (29th in Goalies), .913 SV% (T-19th in Goalies)*

    Fleury: 10-5-1, 2.76 GAA (T-40th in Goalies), .904 SV% (T-34th in Goalies)*

    Wallstedt: 0-2-0, 4.09 GAA (83rd in Goalies), .843 SV% (86th in Goalies)*

    *Goalie Rankings could be skewed due to differences in games played. For instance, when weighed against goalies with 16 or more starts, Gus is ranked 18th in GAA and T-12th in SV%. Fleury is T-25th in GAA and T-24th in SV%

     

    Kaprizov: 23G, 28A, 51P (T-23rd in NHL), +20 (T-10th in NHL)

    Rossi: 17G, 26A, 43P (T-43th in NHL), +17

    Boldy: 18G, 24A, 42P (T-48th in NHL), +4

    Zuccarello: 12G, 23A, 35P (T-85th in NHL), +6

    Faber: 6G, 15A, 21P (T-224th in NHL), +11

    Ek: 8G, 13A, 21P (T-224th), +8

    +/-

    Highest: Kaprizov (+20/T-10th in NHL), Rossi (+17), Middleton (+15)

    Lowest: Khusnutdinov (-6), Lauko (-7), Hartman (-8)

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    9 minutes ago, Citizen Strife said:

    2024-2025 Numbers Game (48 Games Played)

    Record: 28-17-4; (60 pts, 3rd in Central, 5th in Western Conference, 10th in NHL, 4-6 in L10)

    

    Goals For: 2.90 Per Game (19th in NHL)

    Goals Against: 2.88 Per Game (T-11th in NHL)

    PP: 19.1% (23rd in NHL)

    PK: 70.3% (30th in NHL)

     

    Gustavsson: 18-10-3, 2.63 GAA (29th in Goalies), .913 SV% (T-19th in Goalies)*

    Fleury: 10-5-1, 2.76 GAA (T-40th in Goalies), .904 SV% (T-34th in Goalies)*

    Wallstedt: 0-2-0, 4.09 GAA (83rd in Goalies), .843 SV% (86th in Goalies)*

    *Goalie Rankings could be skewed due to differences in games played. For instance, when weighed against goalies with 16 or more starts, Gus is ranked 18th in GAA and T-12th in SV%. Fleury is T-25th in GAA and T-24th in SV%

     

    Kaprizov: 23G, 28A, 51P (T-23rd in NHL), +20 (T-10th in NHL)

    Rossi: 17G, 26A, 43P (T-43th in NHL), +17

    Boldy: 18G, 24A, 42P (T-48th in NHL), +4

    Zuccarello: 12G, 23A, 35P (T-85th in NHL), +6

    Faber: 6G, 15A, 21P (T-224th in NHL), +11

    Ek: 8G, 13A, 21P (T-224th), +8

    +/-

    Highest: Kaprizov (+20/T-10th in NHL), Rossi (+17), Middleton (+15)

    Lowest: Khusnutdinov (-6), Lauko (-7), Hartman (-8)

    Thanks for the update.

    Going into this season I thought .500 at best, similar to last season. Just wait it out until next year when the purse strings loosen up. I gotta say more than pleasantly surprised by the start of the season and KK leading MVP discussion.

    The last few weeks have been a drag. So the question is, to quote the oft quoatable Denny Green: "They are who they thought they are" in regard to the Wild coming back to the mean; or is this a mid-season slump and what looked great at the beginning will return in February.

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    21 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

    To me, this is a strange article about stuff I wasn't even aware existed. I don't generally go onto YouTube for NHL content, though, I did use it to try and do some draft research on year (but none of these sites were used). 

    I don't really understand why articles now, on this site, need to have imbedded video content of some highlight, or why putting an X quote in the middle of a piece has any significance if it isn't from Russo. 

    Fact is, I can barely post an emoji, and really haven't got much of an idea of what each emoji means. So, to tell me about de-monetizing anything just shoots way over my head. I don't particularly like podcasts either, what's wrong with good old fashioned radio? Also, thanks for those who have posted pics for me when I mentioned a reference. Believe it or not, they are usually entertaining (pics or gifs).

    But, what Phillip is saying here is a pet peeve of mine: The NHL does very little to help grow the sport. They go down the old fashioned channels while most other sports are passing them by. They don't take criticism well, so I could see them blocking video for people who are critical of them, and that category is like a huge buffet. Why wouldn't you want this exposure? 

    It's probably not ever going to be my media outlet of choice, but if it's growing the game in areas where the NHL doesn't reach, maybe the NHL should be listening and encouraging. We don't even know if they are discouraging it since we don't really know who is pulling the copyright claims. 

    Now, just for reference, I occasionally tune into YouTube. I've got 5 subscriptions, 1 is the Wild channel, another is the baby Wild. I rarely get to them ever with time constraints. So, I'll just ask: Do you guys out here in HW land actively use YouTube as your media outlet? And if so, what other than The Wild do you count on it for (just general categories are fine)?

    I’m an active you tube user and with tik tok teetering I’m moving even more to You Tube

     subject subscriptions include:

    stock market (cnbc, the compound, Bloomberg, etc)

    Hockey (worst seats in house, wild on 7th, wilderness talk, John Scott pod, mn pondcast)

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    2 hours ago, Citizen Strife said:

    Ek: 8G, 13A, 21P (T-224th), +8

    You didn’t hear it from me but this team needs more offense from Ekzy

    i know he does lots of other things but 8 is not great

    #triple post

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    2 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said:

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    Not to make this political in any way, but this is exactly how I saw DOGE working. Which one is Musk and which one is Ramaswamy? 

    My expectation is a lot of people have no idea what they're doing there.

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    2 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    You didn’t hear it from me but this team needs more offense from Ekzy

    Eky's snipe last night sounded like he heard P-Shooter loud and clear!

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