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  • Revenge Wasn't A Good Look For the Wild


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    Tony Abbott

    "There's not a lot of money in revenge." - Inigo Montoya
    "Revenge is like serving cold cuts." - Tony Soprano

    The Minnesota Wild seemingly went onto the ice with one thing on their minds on Saturday night, and it didn't much involve winning a hockey game.

    Earlier this week, the Wild made it clear that they had the game against the Nashville Predators circled on their calendar since Zachary L'Heureux slew-footed Jared Spurgeon on New Year's Eve, keeping the captain out ever since.

    "They've got a lot of guys on Nashville who understand the code, and the young kid doesn't understand. It's frustrating," Marcus Foligno, often the Wild's de facto enforcer, told The Athletic on January 14. "There will be a price to pay for that game. I'm sure he'll have to answer to someone."

    It feels like the Wild worked to walk that back a touch over the coming days.

    "We gotta be smart," Foligno said on Friday. "We can't be worried about that player specifically. I’m sure if something will get done or when he’s out there, you just play hard against him. But we gotta focus on winning the game and beating Nashville."

    John Hynes echoed that later sentiment: "That’s not where our mind needs to be. Our mind needs to be on playing hockey and finding a way to win the game. That’s the most important thing.”

    Look at the game last night, and you tell me where the focus was.

    As expected, L'Heureux had to answer the bell on his first shift of the game, squaring off with Yakov Trenin. Foligno fought heavyweight Luke Schenn, who was uninvolved with the Spurgeon slew-foot, on the ensuing faceoff. Revenge? Check.

    But the Wild found out what Inigo Montoya realized over decades of training his mind and body for vengeance in The Princess Bride.

    There's no money in that game.

    While David Jiricek and the Wild drew first blood on the scoresheet, the Wild went down shockingly easily to the seventh-place Predators.

    This just isn't the kind of game the Wild drop -- at least, not this year and not under John Hynes. Minnesota entered Saturday night with an NHL-best 16 road wins. Now 16-5-3 away from the confines of the Xcel Energy Center, the Wild have earned a lot of attention and praise for their efficient, business-minded approach when traveling. 

    Credit to Minnesota, they didn't get caught up in a march to the penalty box. After a three-fight first period, the Wild were only shorthanded once. But the emotion of the game seemed to get poured into avenging Spurgeon. After that, it didn't look like there was much left in the tank. 

    The team was uncharacteristically sloppy, a massive departure from its high standard of defensive play. The Predators got shots in from in-close all night, and the Wild defense didn't have any answers for the likes of Filip Forsberg, who notched two goals and eight shots on the night.

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    “It was a good start, but then we didn’t sustain kind of how we started the game,” Hynes admitted after the loss. “And then I think there was just a multitude of areas of our game that wasn’t good to me.”

    Trenin put his finger on why: The Predators didn't have any skin in the revenge business.

    "They switched to hockey quicker than we did and scored," the physical former Predator said. "It took us some time to switch [to] it."

    We're all human, and emotions are part of the game. But so is managing them. At the end of the night, fighting L'Heureux didn't speed up Spurgeon's timetable. Having to answer to Trenin didn't even deliver the intended message. L'Heureux almost delivered a headshot to Wild top center Marco Rossi, which the team's third-leading scorer mercifully avoided.

    The Wild's response cost Nashville nothing, and it was never going to hit the Predators where it hurts. As much as the team and fans want a cathartic title fight in revenge for injuring a top player, that's not the kind of league this is anymore. Despite the Wild's dalliances with enforcers like Nic Deslauriers and Ryan Reaves, The Code has never protected the team and never been a deterrent. Again, that's not the case anywhere.

    The Wild dipped their toes back into the Old School pool and immediately learned why it didn't work under Dean Evason. Minnesota still plays hard under Hynes, but that effort is focused, controlled, and directed toward defense, not physicality for its own sake. For the sake of sticking to what's worked, the Wild are better to let their urge for revenge out of their system now and avoid having to flip the switch from vengeance to hockey in the future. 

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    4 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    People can have different opinions

    you will understand that when you grow up

    Tony did this long form article that essentially addresses your comments on Ohgren (and residually Rossi) asking that everyone have patience. Kinda like how the Avenots gave McKinnon 3-4 years to become really good. But you can have your opinion, too, as factually bankrupt as it is.

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    Can't wait to see what the rest of the season brings. I knew January was going to be tough due to injuries and matchups but Feb/March looks a lot nicer. A little break for time to heal and we can get back to winning. Hopefully we catch our swagger again after knocking off the AVS. 

     

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    12 minutes ago, FredJohnson said:

    Tony did this long form article that essentially addresses your comments on Ohgren (and residually Rossi) asking that everyone have patience. Kinda like how the Avenots gave McKinnon 3-4 years to become really good. But you can have your opinion, too, as factually bankrupt as it is.

    If Tony would like to chat, he is very welcome to, as I value his comments

    you and your comments on the other hand mean nothing

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    17 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    If Tony would like to chat, he is very welcome to, as I value his comments

    you and your comments on the other hand mean nothing

    That’s what this was:

       23 hours ago,  Tony Abbott said: 

    I swear to God, y'all would've traded MacKinnon. 

    You can't have a young team if you're not willing to let them develop.

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    what's the point of this reference to MacKinnon? is this again about Rossi? I think you and your fanboys are the only ones that keep bringing Rossi back to discussion. 

    or is this saying that you expect Rossi to be the next MacKinnon? He is not and won't be but okay sure go stat hunting. 

    believe it or not - we have a player just as good as MacKInnon but his name is not Rossi. Oh my. Yes. not Rossi. 

     

    But you had to be your usual churlish self. Lashing out is not a good way to have a discussion.

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    3 hours ago, FredJohnson said:

    That’s what this was:

       23 hours ago,  Tony Abbott said: 

    I swear to God, y'all would've traded MacKinnon. 

    You can't have a young team if you're not willing to let them develop.

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    what's the point of this reference to MacKinnon? is this again about Rossi? I think you and your fanboys are the only ones that keep bringing Rossi back to discussion. 

    or is this saying that you expect Rossi to be the next MacKinnon? He is not and won't be but okay sure go stat hunting. 

    believe it or not - we have a player just as good as MacKInnon but his name is not Rossi. Oh my. Yes. not Rossi. 

     

    But you had to be your usual churlish self. Lashing out is not a good way to have a discussion.

    i think i responded to Tony in a friendly banter (as he has many times to me) and i hope he too values my feedback and understands that sometimes people have differences of opinion. most people on this chat want Wild to be the best they can be, but there is no one way to accomplish. if you want to continue to ridicule and belittle others, go for it, but this is the last time i reply to you. 

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    8 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    i think i responded to Tony in a friendly banter (as he has many times to me) and i hope he too values my feedback and understands that sometimes people have differences of opinion. most people on this chat want Wild to be the best they can be, but there is no one way to accomplish. if you want to continue to ridicule and belittle others, go for it, but this is the last time i reply 

     

    “I think you and your fanboys” is respectful?

    Or “okay sure go stat hunting” is?

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    7 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    While I'll admit I was ready to deal Rossi two years ago.  I'm not anymore.  I'd like to see flashes from Ogz (good stick, toughness, speed, etc.) He's Duhaime 2.0 IMO.  What i've learned about the AHL over the years of being a Wild fan is that the AHL and NHL are apples and oranges.  

    I respect you admitting that about Rossi.

     

    It goes without saying that the Ahl and nhl are different.

    Do you not understand how a player does in each step up in competition is a very good indicator of how they will be in the NHL? In his draft year Ohgren had some type of record in the Swedish jr league for points. He had something like 2 points per game. His next step up was the Swedish men’s league where he did very well and scored a lot of goals. I actually think he was a point per game in the playoffs for them.

    Now, in his rookie season in the Ahl he is basically averaging a point per game and a goal every other game, at 20 years old…You obviously don’t have a clue how promising that is. Go look at duheims stats. He was never even close to a point per game in the Ahl. Youre very obviously not informed about the guy and yet you’re very opinionated about him.

    You have these ridiculous expectations for a player and can’t seem to grasp that HES 20 YEARS OLD! He isn’t a finished product and he’s already excelling in each step up. Did you see him in the game where he had two assists? That primary assist was beautiful. Those are flashes of things that he’s capable of. He just needs time actually develop. 

    He deserves patience just like any other player. Go look up the statistics on players who are a point per game their first season in the Ahl. It’s an incredibly low number I would imagine. Most that are capable of that, turn into very good nhl players farther down the line.

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    On 1/20/2025 at 8:24 PM, OldDutchChip said:

    My friend you are looking at it through your own eyes and not thinking like Kap. Of course no one knows what he is thinking but given that this will be his likely last chance to dictate the future (for his prime years), do you think he is going to pick a mentorship? To onboard and show other baby wild how things are done? To go through yet more growing pains? Why? Yikes, that's not for him!

    This is where we differ on what we think Kaprizov is thinking. I really don't think he wants to go to a team where they are on the back half or third of their SC window. I think he wants to be on a team that can challenge a deep run starting at the beginning. 

    If I were in his position, you're right, this is how I would look at it, and I just happen to think this is the most logical way to look at it. He's not babysitting, or starting a new mentorship program. He's watching a contender being built right before his very eyes. 

    I think he likes it in MN, he feels comfortable here, he likes the teammates, and he likes the talent he sees coming up. I think he likes being shielded from the interviews and the media limelight. He has played in Moscow, but his home and upbringing are from a rural farm. This is where I think he feels most comfortable. 

    I think he will conclude that after his next contract, he could become a mercenary for a team on a cup run if he hasn't accomplished it here, but this is not the right time to become a mercenary. As for contract structure, I think it will be front loaded so that as he goes into his mid 30s, if things have gone south here, he can get out in his final couple of years and have a tradeable real $ number. 

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    5 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

    This is where we differ on what we think Kaprizov is thinking. I really don't think he wants to go to a team where they are on the back half or third of their SC window. I think he wants to be on a team that can challenge a deep run starting at the beginning. 

    If I were in his position, you're right, this is how I would look at it, and I just happen to think this is the most logical way to look at it. He's not babysitting, or starting a new mentorship program. He's watching a contender being built right before his very eyes. 

    I think he likes it in MN, he feels comfortable here, he likes the teammates, and he likes the talent he sees coming up. I think he likes being shielded from the interviews and the media limelight. He has played in Moscow, but his home and upbringing are from a rural farm. This is where I think he feels most comfortable. 

    I think he will conclude that after his next contract, he could become a mercenary for a team on a cup run if he hasn't accomplished it here, but this is not the right time to become a mercenary. As for contract structure, I think it will be front loaded so that as he goes into his mid 30s, if things have gone south here, he can get out in his final couple of years and have a tradeable real $ number. 

    i hope you're right 🙂

    What do you think about Ek for Miller? 

    Chime in - when you get to that topic. Interesting potential target....

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    On 1/20/2025 at 9:06 PM, Pewterschmidt said:

    Asking Boldy to fight is like asking Pasta to fight.  Why?  Makes no sense to ask a top offensive player to break his hand on a bottom 6rs helmet

    It seems to me that when Boldy threw off the 2 defenders, split the gap and hit the post in OT a few games back is the kind of power move we want with him. I didn't get to see the hit he put on Stone, but I'd say that is too. No need for him to drop the mitts, just play manly hockey. 

    The "revenge" should come from heavy shift after heavy shift where you are leaving a lot of carnage behind. This should especially happen when you can get the Foligno line matched up with a top 6 opponent line, where they consistently drive them through the boards.

    On this point, Middleton and Bogosian have disappointed me and I had hoped they'd be more physically aggressive in canceling out their threat hard. Jiricek is a Wild Card here, because he does this, as did Spacek in the game I saw him in. Faber knocks guys off balance a bit, as does Spurgeon. It is rare for Brodin to do this but he's had to more recently due to either him losing a step in skating or others catching up to his level. My suspicion is that Brodin will need to adapt and become more physical, not imposing, but willing to cancel out players. 

    These days, many things can be accomplished without dropping the mitts, but we play such a finesse game and don't finish checks right now that we've gotten away from that hard to play against system. 

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    2 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    What do you think about Ek for Miller? 

    I personally don't like Miller as a player and don't think he'd fit in well here. I'd much rather have Pettersson who I think would fit better, but am a bit worried about his lack of a physically hard game. I also don't really like Miller's contract for what he provides. 

    Personally, I feel like when you look at the complete package of what each player brings, we have tremendous value in what Ek does and I still think he is the most irreplaceable player we have on this roster. Also, Ek and Kaprizov are from the same draft class, and I believe they should be paired together on a line. I believe J.T. Miller is overrated and does not have a commitment to playing defense. Now, this is my perception and I have watched very little of him play. I could be convinced to take another look at him, but Pettersson would be my target.

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    23 hours ago, Willy the poor boy said:

    I'd like to see someone like Foligno say screw it and drop his azz or Draisitl's(sp) sometime.

    I would too, but Foligno has trouble catching him. It would probably have to be Midsy. 

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    20 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    He's Duhaime 2.0 IMO. 

    This is a good snapshot observation. At the beginning of the season, we felt like Ohgren basement was Duhaime 2.0.  He's 7 years younger than Duhaime and while he's already made his debut with the Wild, Duhaime was still in college. 

    So, I would project that Ohgren will be far better than Duhaime once he is acclimated. His speed seems ok, to me his edges are questionable. His stick has improved since he was last up here. Ohgren possesses some real good strength for 20, and is a very committed gym rat. He will get stronger. I do not like his skating posture and believe as it currently is, he will have back problems a little later. He should definitely be attending Andy Ness' lessons. 

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    18 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

    I personally don't like Miller as a player and don't think he'd fit in well here. I'd much rather have Pettersson who I think would fit better, but am a bit worried about his lack of a physically hard game. I also don't really like Miller's contract for what he provides. 

    Personally, I feel like when you look at the complete package of what each player brings, we have tremendous value in what Ek does and I still think he is the most irreplaceable player we have on this roster. Also, Ek and Kaprizov are from the same draft class, and I believe they should be paired together on a line. I believe J.T. Miller is overrated and does not have a commitment to playing defense. Now, this is my perception and I have watched very little of him play. I could be convinced to take another look at him, but Pettersson would be my target.

    interesting thoughts! for me - i'd pick Miller - his type of players don't become available often. i understand that he is on the older side, but i think his punch would be very welcome (to me he is a Tkachuk but even more seasoned). combine Kap and Miller's drive - we may have something special. Give Kap someone that matches him. Kap has not had anyone close to his level and Miller would the closest. 

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    9 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    i understand that he is on the older side, but i think his punch would be very welcome (to me he is a Tkachuk but even more seasoned). combine Kap and Miller's drive - we may have something special. Give Kap someone that matches him. Kap has not had anyone close to his level and Miller would the closest.

    I've heard rumors but have not seen that dog in Miller's game. To me, I think Ek is a good match for Kaprizov, especially if Boldy is on the other wing. Ek is a master in front of the net to clean things up and in retrievals. Boldy and Ek can perform the playmaking magic. While, typically, Ek would be a wing in this scenario, I think it works for him at center. 

    From a contract standpoint, Ek is the better value. If we traded Ek, we'd also have to figure out how to get rid of another $3m. Miller is on year 2 of a 7 year deal which takes him to 38. Ek is 3 year's younger. The thing about Ek, though, is while he's deemed to be in his prime, he still keeps improving things in his game. 

    To spread the wealth around, I realize we have to have Boldy on a different line, but, really, Ek, not Rossi is the better player for Kaprizov (IMO). Rossi will be the leader of his own line, but those guys just aren't here yet. And, while I think it is more important to have Ek paired with Boldy, I think putting the 3 together is the best possible line connection. I can see Rossi staying with Kaprizov temporarily, but in my mind, Zuccarello and Johansson are not top 6 players in our current top 6. Zuccarello is talented enough to be in there, but just doesn't keep up, he is in the twilight of his career and needs to be managed to 4th line minutes. Please note I am not suggesting he be moved to the 4th line, he just can't handle top line minutes anymore. 

    This year, having the 4 nations tournament replace the All Star game is a benefit to some of our older guys. They need this long 10 day break to refresh their bodies. It probably will benefit Zuccarello more than anyone as he just sits on a recharger for 10 days. But, not that we are solidly in the playoff window and home ice really means nothing, Hynes should start managing his minutes and giving some other guys a shot at top line wing a couple of shifts a period. 

    Wow, I meandered. I'll support whatever Guerin does here, but if the choice were up to me, I think Miller is the wrong add. I think Tuch would be much better.

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    3 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

    I've heard rumors but have not seen that dog in Miller's game. To me, I think Ek is a good match for Kaprizov, especially if Boldy is on the other wing. Ek is a master in front of the net to clean things up and in retrievals. Boldy and Ek can perform the playmaking magic. While, typically, Ek would be a wing in this scenario, I think it works for him at center. 

    From a contract standpoint, Ek is the better value. If we traded Ek, we'd also have to figure out how to get rid of another $3m. Miller is on year 2 of a 7 year deal which takes him to 38. Ek is 3 year's younger. The thing about Ek, though, is while he's deemed to be in his prime, he still keeps improving things in his game. 

    To spread the wealth around, I realize we have to have Boldy on a different line, but, really, Ek, not Rossi is the better player for Kaprizov (IMO). Rossi will be the leader of his own line, but those guys just aren't here yet. And, while I think it is more important to have Ek paired with Boldy, I think putting the 3 together is the best possible line connection. I can see Rossi staying with Kaprizov temporarily, but in my mind, Zuccarello and Johansson are not top 6 players in our current top 6. Zuccarello is talented enough to be in there, but just doesn't keep up, he is in the twilight of his career and needs to be managed to 4th line minutes. Please note I am not suggesting he be moved to the 4th line, he just can't handle top line minutes anymore. 

    This year, having the 4 nations tournament replace the All Star game is a benefit to some of our older guys. They need this long 10 day break to refresh their bodies. It probably will benefit Zuccarello more than anyone as he just sits on a recharger for 10 days. But, not that we are solidly in the playoff window and home ice really means nothing, Hynes should start managing his minutes and giving some other guys a shot at top line wing a couple of shifts a period. 

    Wow, I meandered. I'll support whatever Guerin does here, but if the choice were up to me, I think Miller is the wrong add. I think Tuch would be much better.

    as much as i love Ek, either he is injured or his last year production was a bit of an outlier, he is not in the same league with JT. Ek's best year is an average year for miller. having a guy that averaged 90+ pts for the last 3 years....i say it's a no brainer. i think Ohgren can plant himself in front of the net in due time just as Ek has done, but to find another Miller - that's a bit more difficult. just my thoughts.

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    2 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    but to find another Miller - that's a bit more difficult. just my thoughts.

    In my mind, this will be Yurov. It may take a year or 2, but this guy should be special, no weaknesses and does everything well. I think he may be even better here than in Russia. 

    I know it's wait, wait, wait, but that's kind of the roadmap Guerin has put us on. Yurov will arrive ahead of schedule much like Ohgren has here. 

    I suppose you could trade Ek straight up and have Vancouver retain $2.xxm so the money is the same both ways. I think Ek is probably worth an $8m contract. But while Ek doesn't put up 90 pts., I think he makes that up on the defensive side of the coin, and that's where his value becomes better. Ek, to me, is a more complete player, and I do not look merely at point production to value a player. 

    Will Miller outscore any defensive deficiencies? His numbers seem to indicate he might. And, we are to be a flashier team moving forward. I think Ek really helps out Vancouver a lot and they would look favorably to this type of trade.

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    Just now, mnfaninnc said:

    In my mind, this will be Yurov. It may take a year or 2, but this guy should be special, no weaknesses and does everything well. I think he may be even better here than in Russia. 

    I know it's wait, wait, wait, but that's kind of the roadmap Guerin has put us on. Yurov will arrive ahead of schedule much like Ohgren has here. 

    I suppose you could trade Ek straight up and have Vancouver retain $2.xxm so the money is the same both ways. I think Ek is probably worth an $8m contract. But while Ek doesn't put up 90 pts., I think he makes that up on the defensive side of the coin, and that's where his value becomes better. Ek, to me, is a more complete player, and I do not look merely at point production to value a player. 

    Will Miller outscore any defensive deficiencies? His numbers seem to indicate he might. And, we are to be a flashier team moving forward. I think Ek really helps out Vancouver a lot and they would look favorably to this type of trade.

    is Miller that bad defensively? i thought he is stellar on D and FO is really good. remember Billy picked him to rep US in the 4 nations.....

    and we know Miller does fight, so there is that .... 

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    3 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    is Miller that bad defensively? i thought he is stellar on D and FO is really good. remember Billy picked him to rep US in the 4 nations.....

    and we know Miller does fight, so there is that .... 

    Miller looks like he immediately becomes our best FO guy. His +/- stats are like a yoyo suggesting his defense is iffy. He also comes with an injury history just like Ek. He'll fight, but is he as rugged as Ek? I guess I really appreciate Ek's game and effort, and think very highly of him. 

    Simply put, I don't see the grass greener on the other side of Ek's fence. Both have that it competitive mode. We know Ek fits here. Why mess with it? Now, would a Miller pickup that includes mostly futures, a roster player making $3-4m and a 3rd party taking on $2m in cap help us get him? Maybe. CBJ, I think, should be open for some cap relief, and maybe we could ask for it for 3 seasons, but for Vancouver to swallow $4m for the entire 6+ years? They also have their own cap issues, and this may be a no go for them. Perhaps they dock $2.0m and the 3rd party $3m? That could work. But, futures takes Vancouver out of the WC running, likely, unless they have someone in the A to backfill with? I think I'd still rather have Pettersson.

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    11 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

    Miller looks like he immediately becomes our best FO guy. His +/- stats are like a yoyo suggesting his defense is iffy. He also comes with an injury history just like Ek. He'll fight, but is he as rugged as Ek? I guess I really appreciate Ek's game and effort, and think very highly of him. 

    Simply put, I don't see the grass greener on the other side of Ek's fence. Both have that it competitive mode. We know Ek fits here. Why mess with it? Now, would a Miller pickup that includes mostly futures, a roster player making $3-4m and a 3rd party taking on $2m in cap help us get him? Maybe. CBJ, I think, should be open for some cap relief, and maybe we could ask for it for 3 seasons, but for Vancouver to swallow $4m for the entire 6+ years? They also have their own cap issues, and this may be a no go for them. Perhaps they dock $2.0m and the 3rd party $3m? That could work. But, futures takes Vancouver out of the WC running, likely, unless they have someone in the A to backfill with? I think I'd still rather have Pettersson.

    i am not the biggest fan of Pettersson, so my vote would be to pick Miller. But yeah - having to let go of Ek would not sit well. However - i stand by my previous comment - one of Boldy/Rossi/Ek will be dealt. I'd keep Rossi with his more dynamic play style. Boldy i'd save for a bigger fish - if one materializes. So Ek for me is the right price and might be the right piece for Miller. Keep in mind - he (Ek) has a lot of mileage on him, even though he is younger....he has been battered plenty....his play this year has been uneven and that may be an impact of injuries that he accumulated. 

    I think if we deal Ek for Miller (with Van retaining some) then in theory we can still deal for Brock N. Transforming our team quiet a bit. Is that too much change? Is that even doable with Billy to work multiple dealings at one time? Probably - very unlikely

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    1 minute ago, OldDutchChip said:

    So Ek for me is the right price and might be the right piece for Miller. Keep in mind - he has a lot of mileage on him, even though he is younger....he has been battered plenty....his play this year has been uneven and that may be an impact of injuries that he accumulated. 

    Ek hasn't looked the same since coming back. I still think he's playing through injury, but it's not bad enough to keep him out of the lineup. He hasn't been quite as physical. His skating has been a little choppier too.

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    7 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

    Ek hasn't looked the same since coming back. I still think he's playing through injury, but it's not bad enough to keep him out of the lineup. He hasn't been quite as physical. His skating has been a little choppier too.

    yeap. him playing thru tons of emails for all these years may cut up to him. and maybe moving him will save us from broken Ek in the future.....

     

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    On 1/20/2025 at 8:13 PM, Tony Abbott said:

    Everyone wanted to cast off Rossi, now everyone is piling on Ohgren, and next year, when Yurov has his growing pains, everyone will want to trade him. Even All-World players take some lumps, that's part of having a strong prospect pool. 

    Completely agree Tony. That is also how we build a team for perennial contention. Not by going out and trading our prospects for 30+ veteran players that we need to take a hit on the end of the contract, but by holding onto our prospects and developing them here. Developing them here means there will be some ugliness and certain games our inexperience on the roster will show. Those are learning experiences. This is the best league in the world, it takes time and experience to get up to speed. There is not a single league that will prepare you for the pace and skill in the NHL. Some guys learn fast and are exceptional but the majority take time. 

     

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