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    Tony Abbott

    The State of Hockey wakes up on Saturday to the rumbling aftershocks of the Quinn Hughes trade. And in taking the temperature based on comments on Hockey Wilderness, elsewhere on the internet, and personal text messages, it seems one of those shocks is of the sticker variety.

    One can definitely argue that the Vancouver Canucks maximized their return for Hughes. The jewel of the trade for them is Zeev Buium, who came into this season as a consensus top-10 prospect in the NHL. They got a legitimate top-six center in Marco Rossi, who is 24 and coming off a 60-point season and a good start before injuries struck. They got a solid NHL-ready(ish) prospect in Liam Öhgren, and a first-round pick in 2026. It's a really good haul for a rebuilding team forced to sell off a franchise player. 

    The largest point of contention seems to stem from surrendering Buium in the deal. NHL teams are usually loath to give up prospects of Buium's caliber -- they're young, cost-controlled, and full of potential. Putting on the Sigmund Freud glasses to psychoanalyze the fanbase, perhaps they have lingering memories of the Wild giving up Alex Tuch as a top prospect before he was able to establish himself in Minnesota. 

    Or it might not be that deep. Buium's the rare prospect where you can throw around comparisons like Hughes or Cale Makar and not sound like someone who breathlessly compares J.J. McCarthy to Tom Brady. It makes sense that fans would be attached to the idea that he, too, could grow into being a player like Hughes. Why surrender Buium plus two roster players and a first-rounder if Buium might grow into the role in the near future?

    The reason why is simple: Hughes is the Hughes-like player that we think Buium can become. There's uncertainty with Buium, and no, it's not because he didn't immediately take the NHL by storm. It's unlikely that he will be Hughes, mostly because most prospects -- hell, most S-Tier prospects -- don't turn into Hughes. Hell, Luke Hughes has the same parents as Quinn, and he hasn't even turned into Quinn yet. 

    The Athletic's Corey Pronman may have illuminated that point when he spoke at length about Buium ahead of this season. "[Buium] brings you out of the seat with his talent. He's so skilled, so smart, so dynamic. A great skater," the normally reserved prospect evaluator gushed. "When I see him. "Honestly, when I watched him, I see (Zach) Werenski. I see that guy at the same age."

    Look, Zach Werenski rocks. He contended for the Calder Trophy in his rookie year with a 47-point season. He's scored 20 goals from the blueline twice. Last season, he finished runner-up for the Norris Trophy and seventh for MVP, and he's producing at a point-per-game pace this season.

    And yet, as great as he is, he's not transcendent in the way Hughes is. Werenski has averaged 57 points per 82 games throughout his career, while Hughes is averaging 77. Werenski's play has been worth a cumulative 23.7 Standings Points Above Replacement throughout his career, while Hughes is at 27.3 SPAR... and that's with 134 fewer games. Hughes has also been a Norris Trophy finalist twice before his 26th birthday, while Werenski didn't accomplish that until his age-27 season.

    Buium has the talent to beat the odds, sure, but it's much more likely that he's "just" a No. 1 defenseman than an All-World defenseman like Hughes. It's just simple probability. 

    The Vancouver Canucks know this, too. They didn't make this trade because they were excited about cashing in a 26-year-old Hughes for a younger version. As Vancouver beat writer Harman Dayal wrote for The Athletic, "With the writing on the wall that Hughes wasn’t going to re-sign in Vancouver long-term, the Canucks had to do their best to minimize the pain." The Canucks almost certainly would have preferred to keep Hughes. 

    That fact alone should dispel the reservations about the price involved. Trading for Hughes also means giving up Marco Rossi, who has looked like a low-end No. 1 center over the past two seasons. Rossi's a strong player with a nose for the net, a responsible two-way game, and sneaky grit. Is he ever going to be considered an MVP candidate? Probably not.

    Meanwhile, Hughes is at that level. As for Öhgren and the first-round pick? The former might be a solid middle-six winger, while the latter is a lottery ticket. 

    So if we're scoring at home, there are just two risks for this trade: That Buium hits his 99th-percentile outcome and becomes a Hughes-type player, and that Minnesota can't convince Hughes to stay in the State of Hockey. Are the risks noteworthy? Sure, but they're also acceptable. And even if one of those outcomes happen, that might not mean Minnesota automatically loses the trade.

    Buium might be everything the Wild think he'll be, but the fact of the matter is that Minnesota needed him to be a superstar this season to maximize their Stanley Cup window. That's not a fair expectation, maybe, but that's how the Wild are built.

    Kaprizov is healthy, on pace for 47 goals, and most crucially, making $9 million against the cap before his cap hit nearly doubles. Important players like Mats Zuccarello, Jared Spurgeon, Marcus Johansson, and Marcus Foligno are well into their 30s. Their cornerstone players: Kaprizov, Matt Boldy, Joel Eriksson Ek, and Brock Faber are in the age-23-to-29 sweet spot. The Wild still have about $6.3 million of deadline cap space to make another move. 

    For those reasons, this may be the year Minnesota is best-suited to make a run. So if it costs Rossi, Öhgren, and a first-round pick for Bill Guerin to, effectively, hit fast-forward for six years of Buium's development, that's worth it.

    Wild fans should already know how challenging it can be waiting for prospects when the contention window says it's go-time. That's what happened with the Zach Parise/Ryan Suter Wild core. They waited for top prospects like Mikael Granlund, Charlie Coyle, Jonas Brodin, Matt Dumba, Jason Zucker, and Nino Niederreiter to grow up fast and boost an aging core.

    Those players reached a high level in the 2016-17 season, but by then? Parise and Suter were 32, and their best years were behind them. Mikko Koivu was 33, and about to go into decline. They had the one great season that year, got goalie'd in the first round, and that was that.

    Acquiring Hughes is about avoiding that mistake. Having Hughes and Kaprizov in the fold and in their primes over the next two seasons gives Minnesota two playoff runs that look more promising than any in franchise history. They don't have to wait for someone to hit their stride, hoping they'll fall in the middle of the Venn diagram between prospects developing and aging veterans holding on. The pieces are largely in place, go win some games.

    That probably makes the deal worth it even in the worst-case scenario: that this ends with Hughes walking in the summer of 2027. Again, Kaprizov's at the absolute height of his powers, at age 28. The Wild hope he'll age well, and his all-around skill set suggests he should still play at a high level into his 30s, but his ability to bring a Cup to Minnesota is probably at its apex this year and next. Hughes and Kaprizov for two years might represent a greater chance at the Cup than Buium and Kaprizov for the next nine.

    Besides, seeing as the Wild are the only team to have written a $17 million check to a superstar, it's going to be tough to call it a slam-dunk that Hughes will be gone in two years. 

    Much like it was with Kaprizov this summer, the price for Hughes was substantial, but also, it's a price any team should be willing to pay. Players as good as Hughes don't hit the trade market often, and certainly not when they're in the middle of their prime. You pay whatever price to get those players when they become available, because regardless of what's getting sent back, the team landing an All-World player is going to walk away the better deal.

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    What is more of a gamble:

    Zeev becoming a Norris type D or Hughes signing an extension?

    We spent a lot of assets on Hughes when Zeev might fill that role for pennies on the dollar in both cap space and with zero capital.  

    Also, could we have used that capital to acquire a top line forward?

    There is opportunity cost that comes into play here.

    With that said... I'm generally psyched to see what Hughes can do on this team... especially as the PP1QB.

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    7 minutes ago, Will D. Ness said:

    What is more of a gamble:

    Zeev becoming a Norris type D or Hughes signing an extension?

    We spent a lot of assets on Hughes when Zeev might fill that role for pennies on the dollar in both cap space and with zero capital.  

    Also, could we have used that capital to acquire a top line forward?

    There is opportunity cost that comes into play here.

    With that said... I'm generally psyched to see what Hughes can do on this team... especially as the PP1QB.

    All Fletch has to do is publicly say 'no one will outbid us for Quinn' and we're in like Flynn. Resign all but guaranteed.

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    What will it take to resign Hughes? Makar money whatever that is going to be? Then you got $17M into what could be your third best player on the team behind Hughes and maybe Boldy if he keeps trending. Hughes may make Kaprizov's contract look like you over paid for Kaprizov which I felt is true from the start. 

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    All the prospects and futures Guerin has dealt away for Nyquist, Jiri project™️, brazzo, and now Hughes means the prospect pool/farm will look like the Fletcher era prospect pool for next five years.  Guerin is going all in on the current core + yurov for top 6, Hartman and Gus get dealt for a top 6 forward, and the Stramel’s and Lorenz’s fill out the bottom 6.  Is this group now one top 6 forward away from a deep Cup run?   

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    22 minutes ago, MacGyver said:

    Makar money

    I think you’re right on the $. It will be interesting to see who gets resigned first and for how much. Both are locked up through next year’s season. If QH wants to stay I’m confident the Wild can get the $ to work. I’m mostly just focusing on this year and my expectations are high. 

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    IMHO, great deal by BG even if it seems like a gamble now. I wasn’t impressed with Buium’s overall game, so I view the trade as essentially Rossi + 1st round for one of the best players in the league. I don’t think Ohgren will ever excel at the NHL level. 

    My question is how do the Wild implement Hughes into the team? In the last 25 years, the Wild have only had success with a suffocating defensive game. This isn’t Hughes’ game. Do the Wild go back to the drawing board and change their entire system mid-season? Our Power Play is atrocious right now…do we plug Hughes in and hope it changes? Do we change strategies? Or do we change coaching staff to support a more offensive system?

    Adding Hughes changes the entire identity of this team (if only for 1.5 seasons)

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    21 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    All the prospects and futures Guerin has dealt away for Nyquist, Jiri project™️, brazzo, and now Hughes means the prospect pool/farm will look like the Fletcher era prospect pool for next five years.  Guerin is going all in on the current core + yurov for top 6, Hartman and Gus get dealt for a top 6 forward, and the Stramel’s and Lorenz’s fill out the bottom 6.  Is this group now one top 6 forward away from a deep Cup run?   

    Yuri is that missing guy but it never hurts to have another. Trust in BG to find one more piece to the Cup winning puzzle!

     

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    3 minutes ago, Pablo said:

    Yuri is that missing guy but it never hurts to have another. Trust in BG to find one more piece to the Cup winning puzzle!

     

    Who’s Yuri?  I assume you’re not saying yurov gets us over the hump

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    Excellent article Tony!

    I'll add - our D core is now tops in the league. That is going to be brutal for all opponents once all are acclimated.  Which there's plenty of time for until PO starts.

    Faber + Hughes 

    Spurge + Midds? 

    Brodin + Bogo? 

    The addition of Hughes helps keep Spurgy and Brodin fresh and that energy will be something that is unleashed on lesser matchups.

    If Faber/QH take on top line - the other lines will be shut down. Spurgy and Brodin should destroy lesser matchups. That would force other team to adjust and split their top lines and that plays into our strength. They won't be able to handle our top two lines. 

    Dallas is vulnerable. They are not great at 5v5 (PP dry up at POs)and Seguin (who is still good at his age) and Roope are both injured.

    This is the time we finally turn the table on Stars and put them in the rear view mirror. And then take out Avs. 

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    1 hour ago, Willy the poor boy said:

    All Fletch

    Fletch is long gone. He even manage to destroy Flyers afterwards 

    Billy the gambler is on the table now 

    Lets just hope Quinn Hughes like Minni in winter and EEK does not get hurt 

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    Minnesota Wild PP% as of 12/12/25 is 21.5%, ranking 11th overall.

    For the season, the Wild have scored 2.81 goals per game and allowed 2.65 goals per game.

    These are the things all be monitoring moving forward to see how they compare with Hughes on the team. If he plays on the PK unit, then I'll certainly look at that as well, but he has less than 16 minutes short-handed over the last 94 games with Vancouver.

    I do think Hughes could help the regular season overtime games, but I'll be judging based upon team play in regulation more than OT. Buium is still developing, but I expect him to excel in all phases when he's further along.

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