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  • Maybe It’s Time to Pump the Brakes On the Inevitable Faber Extension


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    Justin Wiggins

     

    On June 27, Minnesota Wild fans will finally find out if the NHL will award hometown hero Brock Faber the second Calder Trophy in franchise history. Although phenom Connor Bedard may edge him out, there’s no question Faber had a special season.

    However, the announcement of that award is more than just a personal award for Faber. It may play a small role in his inevitable extension when he’s eligible to sign on the dotted line as the new league year begins just four days later. The thing is, maybe the Wild shouldn’t be rushing to extend their star blue liner to a market-setting deal just yet.  

    Before the 2023-24 season even ended, tapped-in beat writer Michael Russo of The Athletic was almost preparing Wild fans for what Faber’s new AAV could be. Back in March, Russo pointed to the likes of Cale Makar ($9 million), Adam Fox ($9.5 million), and Charlie McAvoy ($9.5 million) as comparables Faber’s agents would likely seek with their client.

    However, recent defensive contracts should have Faber’s camp worried their client may not become the first defenseman in Wild history to receive a contract with an AAV starting with a nine. And if the Wild want to push back on Faber’s ask, they have precedent.

    Recent history is on their side if Bill Guerin and Co. choose to use it in negotiations. Over the past handful of years, there have been a plethora of extremely talented and promising young defensemen. Few have received the type of contract Faber and the Wild are seemingly negotiating following their entry-level deals.

    Let’s start with the easy ones, the type of comparables Faber’s agents have little to no merit making. Makar and Fox are prominent defensemen who recently received large extensions following their ELCs. Fox signed his $9.5 million contract in November 2021, just months after he won the James Norris Trophy as the league’s best defenseman. It’s pretty fair to receive a top-of-the-market deal when the league has just declared your client the best defenseman in the world.

    Makar was a slightly different story. He inked his $9 million contract in the summer of 2021, a year before winning the Norris trophy en route to also being named the Conn Smyth winner when the Colorado Avalanche secured the Stanley Cup. However, Makar was a bonafide star from the moment his skate blades touched an NHL sheet of ice, securing his Calder Trophy in 2020. Through his ELC, Makar was a point-per-game player and highly regarded as one of the best offensive blue-liners in the league.

    Faber is clearly an up-and-coming defenseman, but his skill set is still a notch below Makar and Fox's. While his offensive abilities this year were a pleasant surprise, he isn’t yet the game-breaker Fox and Makar displayed during their ELCs. For those reasons, it’s a little perplexing to hear so many rumors his next deal will start in the nines.

    However, Makar and Fox were not the only young defensemen who received long deals after their ELCs expired. Other notable blue-chip defenseman, such as Miro Heiskanen, Quinn Hughes, and Jake Sanderson, recently signed long extensions. Hughes was the first, signing for $7.85 million for only six years. His comparison is a little harder to draw from because Hughes’ deal came during the COVID pandemic. The uncertainty of the world climate led his team to look for a slightly shorter term at a lower cap hit.

    But it helped set the standard for defensemen looking to secure the bag following their ELC. Unless you are in the stratosphere of the absolute best at your position, a huge extension should benefit the player and the team. In this scenario, the contract should benefit the player immediately, as they are likely paid slightly higher than their current value. Yet the team is banking on your skill set, expanding to the point the contract is a good deal for the team toward the end of it (see: Matt Boldy).

    Heiskanen and Sanderson are prime examples of this line of thinking. Heiskanen signed his 8-year, $8.45 million AAV contract in the summer of 2021. At the time, Heiskanen had not proven himself as an offensive force. However, the Dallas Stars were willing to sign him to such a long contract as they hoped to be on the positive side of that deal as he got older. They have reaped the benefits of that gamble. The Finnish star exploded into a true two-way impact player in the third year of that contract.

    Sanderson signed for eight years at $8.05 million AAV following his lone full season in the NHL, similar to where Faber stands now. But Sanderson was a former 5th overall pick and already a staunch player in his own end. Just like Dallas with Heiskanen, the Ottawa Senators understand they are probably overpaying him now and hoping the offensive side of his game develops to the point he becomes a part of future Norris Trophy ballots.

    These four comparisons point to a world where Faber should not receive an AAV in nines this summer. His accomplishments after one season don’t compare to that of Makar or Fox. Faber is in a much more similar position to Heiskanen and Sanderson.

    He’s a great player. However, he has some deficiencies in his game -- he is not a powerplay threat and cannot walk the blue line of the offensive zone -- that the top defensemen don’t have. Why would it make sense to pay a player a top-of-the-market deal when he isn’t quite there yet?

    I would argue that a long-term deal doesn’t make nearly as much sense as a bridge deal for the Wild. It’s an idea that hasn’t been rumored for Faber but has proved valuable to other teams with a stud defenseman and minimal cap space.

    Probably the best comparison for Faber, in both style of play and contract situation, is Boston Bruins’ defenseman Charle McAvoy. Following his ELC in 2019, McAvoy signed a three-year, $4.9 million bridge deal. He was already regarded as a stout defenseman in his own zone but lacked the offensive talent to warrant a top-of-the-market deal.

    However, McAvoy has developed into one of the best all-around defensemen in the league. With one year remaining on that bridge deal, Boston offered an eight-year, $9.5 million contract. The deal was beneficial to the player and the team. McAvoy was awarded life-changing money as he worked to become a more complete player, and Boston didn’t have to gamble on a player with a large contract they hoped he would live up to.

    Why can’t this be the right strategy for Faber and the Wild? Faber exploded onto the scene this year with an offensive touch hardly anyone saw coming. We should praise his 47 points combined with above-average defense in his own zone. However, it wasn’t too long ago that Faber's college team left him off the power play. Who to say this one-year outburst wasn’t a fluke?

    Let me be clear, I don’t think it was a fluke. But even with offensive production like that, Faber’s output paled compared to those with contracts in the nines and above. Where Faber is now in his development, his next contract should align with Heiskanen or Hughes, not Makar and Fox. That means that, at most, an eight-year contract for $8-$8.5 million makes the most sense. Or, if Faber truly believes he deserves to be paid amongst the elites, he would be better off signing a 2-3 year bridge deal and securing a contract that approaches $10 million on his next contract.

    Regardless of his route, the Wild would be wise to stand firm on these negotiations. The precedent doesn’t call for Faber to receive $9 million. And every dollar counts for a team trying to build a roster around their star in Kirill Kaprizov.

     

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    I bet the Wild want to lock him up long term.  Fabes needs to refine his game somewhat and if he were a Makar or Hiskanenen level he would be valued above 10M in 2024 vs 9M in 2021.

    I think a bridge deal would be fine too but I really don't see a reason to do so.

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    I don't think Guerin can pull rabbits out of his hat on every deal he makes.  $9m might be an overpay, but he's probably going to be looked at favorably with the cap rising.  Maybe you can get a "high but not too high" Boldy deal, but that's about the best you can hope for.  Ek level bargain deals are the one in a million lucky break.

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    No rush in doing an extension.  We did that last year with 3-4 guys and it was a mess.  Faber should not get 8-9mm.  He has a lot more to prove.  3-4 year bridge deal at $6mm is what we should be paying.  Also trade spurgeon for a bag of pucks so you can use his money on other forwards and dmen.  Along with Gus, Freddie, Nojo, and Rossi for a high pick 5-7 keeping our 13 or a ready to go player.  Big changes needed this summer and starts now. Also no Middleton extension we should be looking at trading him as well.  Bigger, younger, faster.  The team will be good when Hartman, Foligno, are on the 4th line and nothing more.  Zucc on 3rd line and no PP1 time. 

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    I see a fallacy in this argument.  While Sanderson's $8.05MM contract was signed last year,  Heiskanen's $8.45MM contract was signed three years ago.  If Faber aligns with Heiskanen, that's over $9MM now counting inflation and cap increases.

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    yup good points in the article!

    do not give in and just toss 9 mil plus at this kid. let it marinate a bit, if he wants money in the 9+ range, then push for bridge or make him take a discount and sign for 7 per. thats it.  7X7 is 49 mil right? throw in kwik trip and tempstar commercial and let him get some more cash if he needs it that bad. there is probably even more advertising money for him lined up. so push for 7, make him alternate and see if he bites. 

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    His contract will not be negotiated in a vacuum. Whether the team goes bridge or longterm depends on a lot of factors. One factor is how aggressive the Wild want to be the next few years in signing UFAs. To this point management has shown a propensity to lock players up and at least theoretically reduce risk/cost longterm. Pretty sure that’s what’s coming next for Brock. My guess? 8 at $8.75

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    6 hours ago, Burnt Toast said:

    My guess? 8 at $8.75

    That $70M over 8 years is exactly what I was going to suggest. Something in the $8M - $9M range certainly seems likely, and I wouldn't be shocked if it was closer to $8.25M. I cannot really see them going over $9M. The Wild are more likely to reduce the term to 7 or 6 years rather than go over $9M.

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    7 hours ago, bisopher said:

    While Sanderson's $8.05MM contract was signed last year,  Heiskanen's $8.45MM contract was signed three years ago.  If Faber aligns with Heiskanen, that's over $9MM now counting inflation and cap increases.

    Faber's game seems closer to Sanderson than Heiskanen, but I do think he'll get a bit more than Sanderson. Something in the $8.25-$8.75M range seems about right.

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    16 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

    yup good points in the article!

    do not give in and just toss 9 mil plus at this kid. let it marinate a bit, if he wants money in the 9+ range, then push for bridge or make him take a discount and sign for 7 per. thats it.  7X7 is 49 mil right? throw in kwik trip and tempstar commercial and let him get some more cash if he needs it that bad. there is probably even more advertising money for him lined up. so push for 7, make him alternate and see if he bites. 

    I agree with ODC on this one. I think last season may have been a unicorn season for Faber. Let's see how far back to earth he comes. He's still going to be good or very good but lets see where he levels off at in the next two seasons. Bridge deal is the wise thing to do here. 3X6 would go nicely then he gets his payday. Faber wants to be here so he will be team friendly. 

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    Hold everything!

    is Fletcher still a GM for flyers?

    if so, call and offer Rossi, pick and knutty and future first for Mitchkov

    he is coming over and would be perfect!

    It’s only a fantasy until you make it real 

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    I think you look at Ek or other leaders on the team and propose a Boldy type deal. Yeah, a lot of success in a small sample size. If you go full Marner with a guy, it's not necessarily a terrible deal purely based on the numbers, but it's the flexibility that's lost with deals like Sanderson, Trouba, Subban, Karlsson, Spurgeon, and the types of guys who deserve a payday when they're signed. Over time, do these contracts work out well or become a burden.

    I think 7x7.5M would be my threshold for being impressed with Guerin & Faber. I realize Faber could be worth more depending on comparison but I'd strive to get him for Spurgeon/Boldy type deal. 

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