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  • Marco Rossi's Contract Situation Isn't Just About Marco Rossi


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    Robert Brent

     

    The never-ending saga of Marco Rossi’s contract negotiations got a new wrinkle recently when NHL insider Cam Robinson said that the situation may result in the Minnesota Wild’s talented young center missing training camp.

    That update is just the latest in a string of incidents that have made for an acrimonious summer between Rossi and the Wild. To recap, the Wild have shown their willingness to trade Rossi, but have been unable to find the right deal. Rossi recently expressed frustration with the way the playoffs went in an interview with an Austrian outlet.

    While the relationship is strained, the Wild and Rossi must agree on the forward’s future before he misses training camp. If he isn't there when camp starts, it would be a disastrous result for the player and the organization.

    Before delving too deeply into the consequences of Rossi missing training camp, it is essential to acknowledge that this sort of chatter is often just a negotiating tactic. Restricted free agents have little recourse in negotiations with their teams. Taking the negotiations down to the wire is one of the few areas of leverage they can wield to get their contract. Teams want their players to go to camp, and that deadline is frequently a motivator for both sides to bridge their differences.

    While most RFAs and their teams resolve negotiations before training camp, it isn’t unheard of for contract talks to extend past training camp and sometimes even into the regular season. Those occasions should serve as a cautionary tale for the Wild and Rossi.

    A recent example of the dangers of letting contract negotiations linger occurred last year when the Boston Bruins struggled to secure a deal with their franchise goaltender, Jeremy Swayman. The Bruins were clearly committed to Swayman after trading Linus Ullmark, but they still couldn’t reach an agreement with Swayman’s team during training camp. 

    Swayman ultimately inked an eight-year deal worth $8.25 million per year, but not before missing training camp and the preseason. From there, the goaltender had by far the worst season of his young career. His save percentage dropped from .916% to .892%. His goals saved above average decayed from a sterling 16.4 to a minus-12.6.

    Not being there for training camp wasn’t the sole factor in Swayman’s down season. Still, the team acknowledged it affected his early-season performance, especially with then-head coach Jim Montgomery saying, "I don't think missing training camp helps anyone. That's why you have training camp.”

    The Bruins/Swayman saga isn’t the only notable occasion where stressful contract talks had adverse effects on a season. 

    Johnny Gaudreau regressed from 78 points to 61 in 2016-17 after missing the start of training camp. While Gaudreau and the Calgary Flames ultimately repaired their relationship for a few years, they got less than ideal results in his age-23 season, which should have been one of his most productive as a professional.

    Kyle Turris and the Phoenix Coyotes faced a situation that highlighted how relationships can deteriorate in contract disputes. Turris missed training camp at the start of the 2011 season, but ultimately signed with the Coyotes. Still, the team traded him to the Ottawa Senators after only playing six games. 

    Rossi could start slow if he misses camp, and the Wild could set a bad precedent for future negotiations. That’s why the most important cautionary tale isn’t Jeremy Swayman or Johnny Gaudreau, but William Nylander’s contract situation with the Toronto Maple Leafs in 2018.

    Like Rossi, Nylander was a skilled young forward who wasn’t the centerpiece of the roster but was still a vital part of a talented core. His career mirrored Rossi’s almost exactly: Nylander scored 48 goals in 185 career NHL games, while Rossi currently has 45. They each finished sixth in Calder voting in a loaded field for Rookie of the Year honors, and their teams openly shopped them at times. 

    Nylander’s contract extension was necessary, but it even more crucial was that Toronto would have to extend Mitch Marner and Auston Matthews shortly after, just as Minnesota’s eyes are already set on Kirill Kaprizov’s future, as well as eventual deals for Zeev Buium and their other top prospects.

    When Nylander’s contract talks dragged past training camp and into December of the 2018-19 season, he had the worst campaign of his career, scoring only 27 points in 54 games. The real damage wasn’t just his 27-point year (which he has since recovered from), it was what came next. 

    Nylander’s saga created an adversarial relationship between Leafs management and their young stars. A year later, Marner nearly held out too, before signing a monster six-year deal worth $10.893 million per season.

    Matthews also received a considerable $11.634 million extension, and Toronto never secured the kind of cap-friendly deals that keep contenders together. The team kept their core, but never could afford any high-quality complementary pieces.

    That’s the lesson for the Wild: Rossi’s contract isn’t just about Rossi. How they handle it could set the tone for every negotiation that follows, including the one with Kaprizov that will define the franchise for the next several seasons. It could affect Buium, Danila Yurov, David Jiříček, Jesper Wallstedt, and any other breakout player.

    Rossi’s extension talks becoming a training camp distraction could negatively impact his season, and that’s probably the best-case scenario. At worst, the team risks creating a situation where the organization and its players don’t trust one another. 

    It would be the right move for everyone involved to ensure a contract or move is finalized before teams break into camp. The Wild can’t afford to let the Rossi saga become their Nylander moment. That decision could cost a season, but it has even higher stakes. It could shape the future of future Wild negotiations.

     

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    Love the title of this article.

    the Wild have shown their willingness to trade Rossi, but have been unable to find the right deal.

    For a team that has always lacked center depth, the Wild & BG can't afford regression this season.  I'd rather have a 24 yr old Marco Rossi than 34 yr old Brock Nelson.

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    Ultimately, it boils down to Guerin's ability as a GM. He certainly likes to portray himself as "the man", but his history is questionable, at best. He has this air of arrogance about him, and he's still kind of a bully. Where are the results and what are his real credentials? A former power forward player and an assistant GM for two years. Yes, he won cups and championships in both roles, but he was never the one making the decisions. He's always been a passenger until coming here. His name and player reputation got him this job, that's it. Obviously you can tell I'm not a fan, but some people are here.

    I strongly believe he is/has been trying to devalue Rossi so he can overpay Kaprizov, which will be necessary. I'm sure his cap person has made him fully aware of what's coming in the near future. If it weren't for the NHL increasing the cap pretty significantly over the next three years, they'd be in cap trouble already and going forward. Just another sign of how mismanaged this team really is. A lot of payroll for a bubble team, at best. Unfortunately, Rossi gets to suffer the consequences. A Western team like Anaheim or Utah SHOULD offer sheet Rossi, if for no other reason than to put the Wild in a pickle. Force Billy's hand and watch him panic, especially over Kaprizov. If Rossi gets offer sheeted and the Wild don't match, would that change Kaprizov's mind? The team would be worse and Kaprizov wants to win now.

    That brings up another point. If Kaprizov wants to stay and wants to win, he should take a team friendly deal so they can build a championship team around him. Is he motivated by money or success? Whatever happens, the amount and term will speak volumes.

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    1 hour ago, SkolWild73 said:

    there might be news that it will be done before training camp.  This according to Russo…

    No surprise there. Further negotiations don't need to happen in the media in order for progress to be made. Sounding like things have moved forward. Russo had previously indicated that Rossi did not want to be traded, so one would assume the 2 sides would come to an agreement before training camp practices. Rossi is putting in the work, and Guerin will deliver a contract that Rossi's team can be content with.

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    Rossi’s extension talks becoming a training camp distraction could negatively impact his season, and that’s probably the best-case scenario. At worst, the team risks creating a situation where the organization and its players don’t trust one another. 
     

    We like you but don’t want to pay you what you’re worth.

    We want a top 6 player for the 60-point young center we put on our bottom 6.

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    Rossi SHOULD be around $6-6.5m.  But disrupting the team and not making any money at all should be a bigger concern. Boldy money is too much, but being in the ballpark of Ek or what he'd make in the new cap world shouldn't be.

    Rossi should be signing solely to park Yurov on 3C and Hartman on 3W.  They would be the beneficiaries of a rash holdout.

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    Amazing how different GM's view their young players.  Blackhawks just gave Frank Nazar, the 13th overall pick in 2022 who is 21, 5'10 and 190, had 26 points in 53 games last year, and 56 total NHL games, a 7 year $6.6M AAV contract a year before his ELC is up.  Another team betting on potential.

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    4 minutes ago, Citizen Strife said:

    Rossi SHOULD be around $6-6.5m.  But disrupting the team and not making any money at all should be a bigger concern. Boldy money is too much, but being in the ballpark of Ek or what he'd make in the new cap world shouldn't be.

    Rossi should be signing solely to park Yurov on 3C and Hartman on 3W.  They would be the beneficiaries of a rash holdout.

    Crazy, Frank Nazar (5'10") 2C just got $6.6x7 with Chicago!

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    22 minutes ago, Scalptrash said:

    Sign and trade with Vancouver?? I doubt it, but you never know. They've never lost interest.

    "According to a report by James Murphy at RG Media published on August 21, the Canucks and Wild could be on the verge of working out a major deal involving RFA Marco Rossi."

    Oooohhhhhhhhhh, this would be a twist.....don't get it twisted.

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    15 minutes ago, SkolWild73 said:

    Amazing how different GM's view their young players.  Blackhawks just gave Frank Nazar, the 13th overall pick in 2022 who is 21, 5'10 and 190, had 26 points in 53 games last year, and 56 total NHL games, a 7 year $6.6M AAV contract a year before his ELC is up.  Another team betting on potential.

    You think Billy knows how to value players? Have you seen some of his contracts?!

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    16 minutes ago, SkolWild73 said:

    Amazing how different GM's view their young players.  Blackhawks just gave Frank Nazar, the 13th overall pick in 2022 who is 21, 5'10 and 190, had 26 points in 53 games last year, and 56 total NHL games, a 7 year $6.6M AAV contract a year before his ELC is up.  Another team betting on potential.

    I guess it's ok since he didn't cross the Boldy threshold 😁

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    1 minute ago, Scalptrash said:

    You think Billy knows how to value players? Have you seen some of his contracts?!

    But doesn't he usually go high and not low?🙂

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    1 minute ago, 0 Stanley Cups said:

    Similar to Coronato's (5'10") wing w/CGY $6.5x7

    Yep.  Well, hopefully we find out he signs and for what in the next couple of days.  As long as he signs, I will be happy.  Even though I like the longer-term contract that can turn into a value deal in a few years, I will take whatever at this point.

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    37 minutes ago, 0 Stanley Cups said:

    Crazy, Frank Nazar (5'10") 2C just got $6.6x7 with Chicago!

    Last season:

    Nazar .49 PPG

    Rossi .73 PPG

    Oh, but Frank is one inch taller, that must be it.

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    3 hours ago, Citizen Strife said:

    Rossi SHOULD be around $6-6.5m.  But disrupting the team and not making any money at all should be a bigger concern. Boldy money is too much, but being in the ballpark of Ek or what he'd make in the new cap world shouldn't be.

    Boldy signed that contract 2 1/2 YEARS AGO!!!!! and its considered to be one of the best bargains in the NHL. 

    Its time to let this silly notion go. 

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    17 hours ago, Patrick said:

    Boldy signed that contract 2 1/2 YEARS AGO!!!!! and its considered to be one of the best bargains in the NHL. 

    Its time to let this silly notion go. 

    I agree with you.  When Boldy signed his contract, it was 8.4% of the cap.  That would be just over $8M AAV today.  $7M on this year's cap is 7.2% of the cap, equivalent to around $6M a year back when Boldy signed.

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