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  • Marco Rossi May Be Following In One Prominent Wild Star's Footsteps


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    Justin Hein

    There was a lot of attention on Marco Rossi before the Minnesota Wild drafted him. Rossi had otherwordly OHL production, but at only 5-foot-9, he was an anomaly. Most draftniks felt that either his skill would carry him to superstardom or his size would doom him as a draft bust. There is rarely nuance around draft time. 

    That narrative grew louder last season when Rossi followed up his stellar AHL debut by performing poorly in 16 NHL games. He couldn’t score, and he didn’t drive play. Worst of all, Rossi looked passive. He looked too small. 

    Eventually, the Wild sent Rossi down, upsetting a portion of the fanbase. Whether you were a Rossi truther or a doubter, it’s never good for a franchise when their ninth overall draft selection performs poorly in his first real shot in the NHL. As Rossi’s would-be breakout season wound down without another callup, comment sections started to murmur the “B”-word. 

    As discouraging as Rossi was last season, he may be tracking on Joel Eriksson Ek’s timeline. Eriksson Ek is currently the best center the team has developed in the past decade. It’s easy to forget his early-career struggles, since Minnesota only had Eriksson Ek play nine games in Iowa. However, it becomes more evident if you sync their timelines by draft year. 

    The Wild drafted Eriksson Ek 20th overall in 2015; they took Rossi ninth overall five years later. Rossi was a more coveted prospect, but they shared the weighty expectations of being a first-round center. Mikael Granlund and Luke Kunin were the only other centers Minnesota drafted in the first-round centers from 2007 to 2022. Fans and the organizations hyped all four players from draft day onward. 

    Eriksson Ek and Rossi immediately faced adversity the year after the Wild drafted them. Rossi lost his entire season due to heart complications with COVID. Eriksson Ek was able to play in 2015-16, but he failed to improve his production. While his SHL numbers were slightly better, that doesn’t account for the monster workload he added on in the J20 SuperElit league in 2014-15. 

    Eriksson Ek EP Card.JPG

    But Eriksson Ek and Rossi improved by leaps and bounds in Year 2. Eriksson Ek began the regular season with Minnesota in 2016-17, posting five points in his first four games. But the Wild returned him to the SHL to preserve the first year of his entry-year contract (ELC) and because they had no room for him. Upon his delayed return to the SHL, he matched his point totals from the previous season in significantly fewer games. 

    Ek vs. Rossi HP comparison.JPG

    Upon returning from illness, Marco Rossi posted a season analytically identical to Eriksson Ek’s by NHL-equivalent points (NHLe). HockeyProspecting.com’s metric adjusts point totals in minor leagues to a comparable number of NHL points. Essentially, the harder the league, the more credit a player gets for scoring. It also gives more weight to goals and primary assists than raw point totals to make it more predictive of future scoring at higher levels. Despite spending months away from the game, Rossi’s offense was on track with Eriksson Ek’s. 

    That may seem discouraging, given that Rossi is projected as a scorer, while Eriksson Ek’s superpower is his 200-foot game. However, it’s important to note that Eriksson Ek’s scouting reports initially focused on his scoring ability rather than his defensive game. Eriksson Ek’s shot is the first attribute his NHL.com scouting report mentions. He developed his two-way hockey abilities later in his career. 

    Many players learn defense later in their careers. That’s especially true when they are gifted scorers at lower levels. If Eriksson Ek focused on scoring in the SHL, NHLe seems like a roughly fair measure to compare these two players -- especially after accounting for the season he lost to COVID. Therefore, the two players were roughly on the same track through two years. 

    But the comparison becomes most interesting in Year 3. Both players were so good in Year 2 that they essentially forced the coaching staff to give them a look with the NHL club. Rossi flopped in Year 3 last season. However, Eriksson Ek played in 75 NHL games in his third year. At first glance, he seems to be pulling ahead of Rossi. 

    But digging deeper, it’s apparent that Eriksson Ek’s 2017-18 campaign was not a breakout year, either. He barely scored (6 goals and 10 assists, ranked 441st in points among NHL players). Worse, Eriksson Ek’s shooting was inefficient, scoring only five 5-on-5 goals on his 8.9 expected goals (xG) per MoneyPuck.com. His xG ranked ninth among Wild forwards. 

    Defensively, Eriksson Ek was no better than league-average in his bottom-six role, posting a plus-2 plus/minus. Analytically, MoneyPuck pegs the Wild as having 52.2% of the scoring chance quality in their favor with Eriksson Ek on the ice, based on shot volume and shot location. Bruce Boudreau shuffled Eriksson Ek all around the lineup but played most of his minutes with Marcus Foligno, Daniel Winnik, and Chris Stewart. Stewart and Winnik were not effective hockey players, and Foligno was not yet the defensive stalwart he is now. Eriksson Ek was a stereotypical fourth-liner.

    Rossi didn’t earn 75 NHL games in his third season like Eriksson Ek, but he had a stronger year in almost every other area of prospect development. Rossi put on another offensive clinic in the AHL, out-pacing his scoring from the year before. He also expanded his role to include penalty killing, leadership duties, and playing more minutes. While it was disappointing to see the pro club demote Rossi, he still made progress. For Eriksson Ek, the only progress was that he played in the NHL. He rarely scored, and he barely drove play. Sound familiar? 

    Rossi vs. Ek timeline table.JPG

    If Marco Rossi follows that trajectory, last year’s demotion will be as faint a memory as Eriksson Ek’s snakebitten early years. Perhaps Rossi will develop into a high-end checking center, much like Eriksson Ek. Few expected his Swedish counterpart to take that path, simply because they couldn’t look past his flashy abilities in the minor leagues -- even though the lower body strength and hockey IQ were right there to be seen. 

    It’s more likely that Rossi will continue to play with shutdown enforcer Foligno on his wing. Between Rossi’s offensive talents and Foligno’s defense, it seems like a situation where any player could find chemistry. Rossi will have either an offensive support or another defensive specialist to feed him pucks. Meanwhile, Evason can shelter him from his opponents’ best checkers so that Rossi can adjust to the NHL, just as Eriksson Ek gradually gained confidence on Minnesota’s third line in his fourth season. 

    For Rossi, this year doesn’t have to be about breaking out as the dominant top-line center that the Wild have pined after for so long. Instead, it’s about Rossi defining his identity. He needs to discover his superpower, just like Eriksson Ek uncovered his dominant two-way game five years ago. That’s a bit of a nuanced take, but don’t let that discourage you. Within that nuance, there’s room for Rossi to find out he’s every bit as special as anybody could have hoped. 

    Points and Games Played statistics courtesy of eliteprospects.com.

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    I have to give Rossi credit.  He has looked the part this year.  His dedication over the last year appears to be paying off.  You have to respect a guy that gets knocked down a few pegs and battles back even better than before.  It won't be easy to stay on a similar path to Ek.  Ek has gotten better every year... and he appears to be better this year again.  Hopefully Rossi can continue that path.

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    I remember when I got my Eriksson Ek jersey that there were none on the racks in the Hockey Lodge because he wasn't much of a scorer and wasn't as popular.  The people there even seemed to try and push me towards something else just because they didn't want to go through the hassle of making one.  My Koivu jersey had gotten kind of tight across the chest and Ek is the I decided I wanted because I liked what I saw in his game and character.  It's easy to root for people like him and I knew I'd be glad to wear his jersey.  

    While becoming what he has, Eriksson Ek has seemed to learn a lot of good things from Foligno, Koivu, and Staal while becoming a well-rounded player.  He works hard to be better every year, and Rossi has seemed to take that to heart too - something that's good to see.  Hopefully Rossi is learning from things from players like Ek along the way to becoming the kind of player he will be.  So far, I've liked what I've seen.

    Those North Stars-themed alternate jerseys look nice and it's been a few years.  Maybe if he keeps playing as he has I might get one of those and have it be a Rossi jersey.  I haven't really seen enough yet, but hopefully he keeps working at it and keeps getting better.

    Right now I'm leaning towards Brodin on the North Stars flavor jersey.  Plus, the slight similarity to Broten is kind of nice.

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    21 minutes ago, MNCountryLife said:

    I have to give Rossi credit.  He has looked the part this year.  His dedication over the last year appears to be paying off.  You have to respect a guy that gets knocked down a few pegs and battles back even better than before.  It won't be easy to stay on a similar path to Ek.  Ek has gotten better every year... and he appears to be better this year again.  Hopefully Rossi can continue that path.

    100%. Rossi has been noticeably better this year. Biggest thing I've noticed is him taking command of the puck when he has it on his stick instead of looking for an immediate outlet. He looks like he wants to have the puck on his stick and looks to create. Think that is purely a confidence thing. Strength along the walls has been noticeable too, also like how he's getting to the front of the net. Have seen him in a few dustups in the crease.

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    I remember a Joel Erikson Ek snipe to score his third goal of his career. It then took like 4 years for him to actually break out.

    The 120 OHL points got us all excited. 

    Listen to Yoda 

    Patience

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    If Rossi gets anywhere close to EEK, that is plenty.  He's already found a place to stay, but if he gets better, that is one less problem the Wild needs to deal with.  Faber and Rossi both are here, and hopefully the long haul.

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    1 hour ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    Rossi looks like he's now on a path to be a consistent NHL'r and that's great news for Wild fans.

    Comparing Rossi's game to Ek's game is comparing apples to oran... coconuts

    Different play styles to be sure, but they're the only guys in Minnesota's system to track as a top-six center. Eriksson Ek struggled mightily his first 2-3 seasons in Minnesota, and he never lost a season to COVID. I think the player he is today makes Rossi's future very encouraging. 

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    59 minutes ago, Luke Sims said:

    I remember a Joel Erikson Ek snipe to score his third goal of his career. It then took like 4 years for him to actually break out.

    The 120 OHL points got us all excited. 

    Listen to Yoda 

    Patience

    Short side top right corner? I think I remember it too. I remember in the postgame interview Gorg asked why he tried that shot and Eriksson Ek said something like "Well, I've been trying to shoot short side more often." 

    He's a real poet. 

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    Maybe it's because I really want him to succeed, but it seems like Rossi is noticeable every time he hits the ice. In a good way at that, but I just feel like it's hard to not notice 23 flying all over the rink. If the wild don't have the puck he is hounding the puck carrier, when he has the puck on his stick he's looking to create offense. When he doesn't buy the wild are in position, he's causing problems in front of the net, or finding open areas to settle down in for a shot. He really took his demotion to heart. 

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    8 hours ago, MNCountryLife said:

    I have to give Rossi credit.  He has looked the part this year.  His dedication over the last year appears to be paying off.  You have to respect a guy that gets knocked down a few pegs and battles back even better than before.  It won't be easy to stay on a similar path to Ek.  Ek has gotten better every year... and he appears to be better this year again.  Hopefully Rossi can continue that path.

    It took JEE quite a few years to become very productive though.

    look at all the average years he had before he really started going.

    https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/139633/joel-eriksson-ek

    you could say it took him 4-5 years actually.

    Rossi deserves that same type of patience.

     

     

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    23 hours ago, Justin Hein said:

    Short side top right corner? I think I remember it too. I remember in the postgame interview Gorg asked why he tried that shot and Eriksson Ek said something like "Well, I've been trying to shoot short side more often." 

    He's a real poet. 

    Yeah it was filthy.

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    On 10/27/2023 at 1:58 PM, raithis said:

    Right now I'm leaning towards Brodin on the North Stars flavor jersey.  Plus, the slight similarity to Broten is kind of nice.

    This sounds like a perfect set up for a Faber jersey 😎

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    I cannot believe that nobody has mentioned this yet. There is a huge similarity and everyone needs to go back and look at Eriksson Ek photos. When Ek made improvements from year to year, it started with him coming in noticeably larger. 2 straight offseasons, Ek put on 15 or so lbs. of muscle. 

    Rossi decided to stay in MN this summer and put on 15 lbs. of muscle. It was desperately needed too, because he was way too small. Now, I don't expect Rossi to go banging people as the lead forechecker through the boards, but I do expect to see a couple of things:

    1. He can protect the puck
    2. He accelerates and gets to loose pucks in the corners and on the boards
    3. His turns are elite
    4. He doesn't get knocked off the puck easily

    This is very important, and the key to his game. If Rossi does the same thing next offseason, there will be even more exciting improvement. Rossi's already got better mitts than Ek, he shows far more patience with the puck than Ek, and he has better east-west vision than Ek. 

    Now, a little bit about the scouting of Ek before his draft year. I remember watching him being touted all season as a possible pick for the Wild. He is exactly who I had my eye on when they drafted, and I thought he'd be a great replacement for Koivu. 

    But, it was his 2-way game, not his shot that got our attention. In his 1st World Juniors, his shot look pathetic. He got good shot volume, but he relied on getting shots close in, and they just weren't very good. He was playing 4th line C and PP2 in the tournament and I was very disappointed. 

    In his 2nd World Juniors he looked far better, yet it wasn't his shot that stood out, it was his shot volume that stood out. One more thing on this, Ek was promoted to the big club more because he was needed for the position, since the club could afford to send Rossi down, and had the C position covered, they could develop him in the A. We ended up burning that year on Ek's deal by bringing him back for the playoffs because we were desperate. 

    I'd like to think the timelines aren't necessarily the catalyst factor (maturity) as was the putting on muscle. This is a tough, physical league, even today, and the young guns need that muscle. I'm pretty sure that Bedard is going to need it too, and may end up struggling early on.

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    On 10/27/2023 at 9:17 PM, Mateo3xm said:

    you could say it took him 4-5 years actually.

    I've always felt like Ek passed the eye test.  Even in the early part of his career I never felt like the game was too much for him.  I would never say it took him 4-5 years to fit in as a legitimate NHL player.  He was productive right away.    But then I could also say similar things about Rossi.  He fits in this year and he is still quite young.  Rossi is passing the eye test this year.  He has played well enough to earn the right to be in the NHL right now.  But just as Ek has improved to become much more of a 1C/2C player that opposing teams hate playing against... I hope Rossi follows that similar path.

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    I think his commitment over the offseason tells me that for Rossi himself failure (bust) is not an option.  He is determined to do whatever it takes to make it.  This is going to be an important year for him.  If he gains the needed confidence I think he going to settle in just fine.

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