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  • The Kirill Kaprizov Rumor Mill Is Here To Stay


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    Tony Abbott

    The end is near. Anytime a market not deemed "desirable" by the hockey world has a star player nearing free agency, the doomsday prophets show up in force. Look at the ongoing situation with people wildly speculating about Connor McDavid, whose contract expires in two seasons.

    These rumors are inevitable, whether they turn out to be true (See: Panarin, Artemi) or the player ultimately sticks around (See: Draisaitl, Leon). There are only two ways to stop them: A player signs or leaves. There is no in-between.

    The Minnesota Wild aren't going to be immune to those rumors. In fact, they've officially kicked off Wednesday morning. Fans in the State of Hockey -- at least, the ones unfortunate enough to still be using Twitter -- woke up to see this on their feeds:

    Oh, no. What had previously been a free-floating dread that something awful might happen was displaced by an actual, concrete NHL "Rumor." This was doubly concerning since the initial version was incorrectly attributed to The Athletic's Joe Smith. But while Mark Lazerus (also of The Athletic) is based out of Chicago, he is very much involved in the national media landscape, so his words have clout.

    As panic crept through Minnesota, Lazerus sought to clarify his statement on Twitter. 

    He was emphatic in his denial that this was coming from Kaprizov or his camp. "Nothing is imminent, nothing is set in stone," the reporter insisted. "Kaprizov is not asking out, nothing like that. Stand down. I didn't intend to imply otherwise."

     

    But that denial isn't the end of the story, and it's not the end of the rumors. Now that the first one is unleashed, prepare to see things like...

    Kaprizov, a free agent in the summer of 2026, would look great as a New York Ranger. The Blueshirts offer a Stanley Cup Contender complete with countrymen Artemi Panarin and Igor Shesterkin, as well as being able to shine on the biggest stage of U.S. hockey.

    Or...

    Would Kaprizov want to relocate to Florida? The Panthers are always contenders, and there's a lineage there with Pavel Bure having made South Beach his home. The weather and no state tax have to be appealing for the star winger.

    Or...

    Mark Lazerus hinted back in September that Kaprizov might want to jump to Chicago, and the destination makes sense for both sides. Kaprizov can give Connor Bedard a bonafide superstar linemate a center-winger battery that can compete with Nathan MacKinnon and Mikko Rantanen, or Roope Hintz and Jason Robertson. Meanwhile, Kaprizov would join a wealth of young Blackhawks talent.

    This is the world we live in, and it will be that way until Minnesota can lock Kaprizov into a long-term deal. Will that happen? It's hard to say.

    Part of it is that we don't know what motivates Kaprizov the most. Is he going to make that choice based on winning? On money? On the best living situation for him? And even if we knew that, we probably can't know his assessment of this team's future and won't until he either signs or tries to find a way out. Anything past that is speculation.

    It's hard to imagine that Kaprizov can't break the bank here. Draisaitl is making $14 million against the cap, and you have to imagine that's the starting point for an agent. While that's a hefty price, we're really only talking about a $5 million per season investment over what he's making now. The Wild can probably talk themselves into that, even if they're skittish about the number.

    The bigger concern, at least the one that's in Minnesota's control (assuming Wild ownership and Bill Guerin can't terraform St. Paul into a San Jose/Miami-esque beach paradise or whatever) is the part about winning. We spoke yesterday about how the knock on Kaprizov in the eyes of the league is that we haven't seen him on the biggest stage, working with premier players. Is that going to change this year?

    Minnesota had better hope so. Because if Boldy can be a fantastic running mate to Kaprizov -- and Guerin has said that Boldy can score 50 goals and 50 assists in this league -- and propel Kaprizov and the Wild to new heights, it might be an easy sell to keep the star around. Especially since they have young Russian players coming in Danila Yurov and Marat Khusnutdinov, and we know that Kaprizov values playing with his countrymen.

    If not? Minnesota could still convince him to stay, but there are no certainties... Except for us be seeing a steady stream of doomsday reports and rumors, that is.

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    15 minutes ago, Enforceror said:

    Does putting Zucc on the top line have anything to do with keeping Kap happy? Guess all we can do is speculate...

    BG said they want more points out of Zuck and that's where he's performed the best. But, I think everyone has performed at their best when on a line with KK...So there's that.

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    What I meant to say….. No you wrote exactly what you wanted and got the response you wanted. Fine if that’s the world you live in I get it, but don’t insult my intelligence with your lame backtracking.

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    If Boldy can put up 50/50, I see the best case scenario for him to do this is with Kaprizov on his other wing and Ek in the middle. All 3 should have banner years and that would be where you keep it.

    This Hartman/Zuccarello to the top line crap needs to stop right now. It they have a dominant 1st line with Boldy and Ek, that is reason #1 for Kaprizov to resign. That line can compete against any other top line.

    Then, finding a decent line #2 will be next.

    I think a Foligno-Dinorat-Trenin line 3 could be very good in that shutdown role. A 4th line with Lauko on the wing could also be formidable. Hmmm, there is no Freddy or Johansson mentioned here, they might be Lauko's linemates....or might be in Des Moines. 

    That 2nd line probably has Rossi centering with Ohgren on the wing. Could Zuccarello find a home there? Well, both Rossi and Ogie are also good defensively and can help mask his liability there. But, is there chemistry? Or would a better 3rd line be Ogie-Dinorat-Foligno and move Trenin up to line 2?

    I think we are very close to cutting bait with the Gaudreau/Johansson/Merrill placeholders. Merrill looks too slow and deliberate to be playing. However, if you need a 7 for the prossbox, Merrill is better suited there as then Hunt and Lambos can play minutes in the A. Any significant injury gets Hunt called up to play. I'm assuming he is still waivers exempt.

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    Reuniting the Kaprizov-Zuccarello-Hartman line. Is that throwing up a white flag saying , is leaving and is going to be traded? 

    What I'm saying here is if this is already determined in Kaprizov's mind, we have to find another top line. This line would essentially be playing out the string. If it were Chicago, and I'm not excited about this at all, what type of compensation should we expect from the Blackhawks if we deal him this year?

    I'd start out with the next 2 1st rounders unprotected. But there will need to be a prospect (a 1st tier prospect) and a rostered player (not some slug) involved. Who could those be?

    Could Martin Mysiak be a possible target? Or Artyem Levshunov? That might take out one of the 1sts here. Could we raid the Blackhawks' rebuild picks? And then there is also unsigned Oliver Moore. Could we build a contender around some of these guys?

    Here's the thing, if Kaprizov isn't going to stay, it is up to Shooter to get the best possible deal for him. Remember, the key here is to build a contender and while I'd hate to see Kaprizov go, the sun still comes up tomorrow and we still need to figure out a way to be a true contender. We've got a bunch of very young, good pieces. Tapping into other players drafted in the '20-'23 drafts could lead to a great core of players from these drafts. My research says this is the best way to build a dynasty (3 significant players from 2/3 drafts close to each other). This could be more than that.

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    After last night, I don't think Ohgren should be any further up the lineup than the 4th line.

    I'd go with:

    1 Kaprizov / Ek / Boldy

    2 Zuccarello / Rossi / Hartman (still think Rossi would do better as a wing and would flip him and Hartman for a few games to explore the option)

    3 Foligno / Khusnutdinov / Trenin

    4 Ohgren / Gaudreau / Lauko

    Unless Johansson shows me something more, I'd start him in Iowa and keep Boyd up here as the 13th forward

    I think Kaprizov and Zuccarello on the same line is a net negative for the team.  I think it reduces Kaprizov's effectiveness more than you gain for Zuccarello.  I think it also reduces Boldy's effectiveness a bit too.  Spreading Kaprizov / Ek / Boldy across other lines doesn't gain us as much as it loses us.  It would be better to see what that line and the rest of the lines can do with a healthy defense behind them rather than 1/3 or more of the team out injured.

     

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    If it's about money, the Wild will throw any price, even if it is wholly unreasonable.

    If it is winning, we'll, no shit.  Only half the NHL can be playoff bound per season.

    The main thing is location.  I have never gotten the sense Kaprizov is a "me first" bright lights kinda guy.  Gaborik was, Fiala sure as shit was, but Kaprizov probably doesn't care about that stardom BS.  I think location comes down to weather and comfort.

    So we won't really know until next season.

     

     

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    1 hour ago, Citizen Strife said:

    If it's about money, the Wild will throw any price, even if it is wholly unreasonable.

    If it is winning, we'll, no shit.  Only half the NHL can be playoff bound per season.

    The main thing is location.  I have never gotten the sense Kaprizov is a "me first" bright lights kinda guy.  Gaborik was, Fiala sure as shit was, but Kaprizov probably doesn't care about that stardom BS.  I think location comes down to weather and comfort.

    So we won't really know until next season.

     

     

    Really do not believe it's about the money with Kaprizov. It was reported he lived quite modestly in Russia with a few of his KHL buddies even though he was rich compared to them. Now I understand he has a serious girlfriend who is also rich so that will influence much of his thinking. Is she money driven or does she like the palm trees warm weather and money.  Maybe she wants him to win the Cup and go back to Russia ASAP? 

     

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    Players can price themselves out of the playoffs.  Case in point:  Cousins and the Vikings.  They are better without him.  If a team is willing to pay him top 5 dollars it doesn't leave much to sign people next to him no matter where he lives.  As a GM, you have to let these guys walk...including Kirill if he demands more than his value.  Personally I think Kirill's top priority is a cup, probably why he signed for only $9M/year right now.  BG has to prove that he can win with a full cap available to him.  He does that and I think we dramatically increase our ability to sign Kirill at a manageable AAV.  

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    i think he leaves. It would be silly to think that Wild's vision matches Kirill's or that there's been enough progress to impress him. we are no closer to having a championship caliber team now than when he got here. still bunch of hopes and aging geezers on "friendly" contracts. 

    he'll play out his contract with his buddy on the same line and then dictate where he'll end up or he gets traded sooner. and oh joy we have the dumbest GM in the league to handle this - 

    here are the trades that i think are going to be considered by our genius - 

    • Trade to NJ for package surrounding Timo Meier
    • Trade to Vegas to Tomas Hertl
    • Trade to Wash for TJ Oshie and some prospect (this one is only on the table this year to give Kap and Ovi a chance to win a cup together)
    • Trade to Vancouver for Boeser 
    • Trade to NY for their overhyped ex number 1 picks kakko or something

    summary - any trade is crap when you are talking about trading away a top 5 player. and the above is 💩 that i am thinking we are going to get stuck with due to the moron that we have in charge. 

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    Chicago is like 4-5 years away from contending. They don't have much of a core right now. They brought in Hossa after they were already good.

    Does Florida have great weather when it isn't winter? They have hot, humid weather, and hurricanes in the summer/fall.

    Nice backpedal by the writer that was clearly looking to get attention later essentially saying that his story was a bunch of nothing.

    Nothing credible. No need to discuss until next season.

     

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    27 minutes ago, MNCountryLife said:

    Personally I think Kirill's top priority is a cup, probably why he signed for only $9M/year right now.

    Kirill is signed for $9M right now because Guerin had a necessity to have him signed through the 25-26 season while keeping the cap number from being so high that he couldn't field a team.  $9M per season was a fair deal at the time and adding more years would have required an additional $12M+ per season(understanding that the cap would be escalating in the out years), which would have rapidly escalated the AAV and hamstrung the Wild even more in the first 4 years of the buy-outs.

    Kirill's agent wanted more money, Guerin wanted more term at a price the Wild could afford, and they met in the middle at 5 years and $45M.

    Guerin had to have him get to the year after the buy-outs fell off in order to give himself a chance to sign him again. It made sense for both sides.

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    57 minutes ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

    Guerin had to have him get to the year after the buy-outs fell off in order to give himself a chance to sign him again. It made sense for both sides.

    Sounds like you think Kirill will be leaving or the Wild will need to pay top 5 dollar value to keep him.

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