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  • Kaprizov, the Wild, and the NHL’s Growing Tampering Question


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    Robert Brent

    Kirill Kaprizov shocked many fans and pundits around the league when he turned down what would be a record-breaking contract. Kaprizov says he enjoys Minnesota. The organization clearly wants to retain his services. 

    If they’re willing to give him more money to play hockey than any human ever, then what’s the holdup?

    The answer may be more complicated than just wanting more money. The negotiation saga got a new wrinkle recently when Elliotte Friedman appeared on The FAN. The NHL insider said contract tampering played at least some part in Kaprizov turning down his record contract extension.

    “I do believe there has been tampering/whispering going on,” he said. “I'll never be able to prove it, but I believe it.”

    The notion of contract tampering is a big accusation, but not one Friedman is alone in expressing concern about. Michael Russo backed up the idea on The Sheet with Jeff Marek.

    “I know that the Wild are definitely worried about it, and if it’s going on, they’ll try to deal with it,” Russo said. “It’s very clear that Kirill Kaprizov is going to be a wanted man if he ever gets to market. And there’s definitely teams out there that would put out the Brink’s truck for him.”

    There’s no use in speculating about what teams may or may not be involved. Still, tampering would have huge ramifications league-wide, not just in Minnesota.

    While it isn’t a major story yet, the issue of tampering in the NHL has gained significant momentum over the last 12 months.

    The Toronto Maple Leafs faced a similar situation when star winger Mitch Marner required a new contract. Just as Friedman suspects teams tampered with Kaprizov, he raised concerns about the Vegas Golden Knights tampering with Marner.

    “There has been some talk that if Marner goes to Vegas, the Leafs are going after the Golden Knights for tampering,” Friedman said. “The NHL is itching to make an example out of someone.”

    Tampering charges were never filed because Toronto traded Marner’s negotiating rights to the Golden Knights instead of allowing the winger to sign with Vegas in free agency. The Maple Leafs received Nicholas Roy in the trade.

    While Roy for Marner is hardly equal value, the Leafs got a solid NHL player in return for a pending free agent. Trading a pending free agent’s rights usually nets something much more modest.

    Friedman suggested that the lingering threat of a tampering charge could persuade Vegas to give Toronto more than expected, which ultimately came to pass.

    “If they make a deal with Toronto and send a good player or two to Toronto, I’m betting any chance the Maple Leafs file for tampering goes away.”

    The situations aren’t one-to-one comparisons. Mitch Marner’s relationship with the Maple Leafs was more acrimonious than Kaprizov’s seems to be with the Wild. Another significant difference is that the Maple Leafs have other stars on their roster. There’s no other star like Kirill Kaprizov in Minnesota.

    Kaprizov is a massive superstar for the team, both statistically and in terms of national relevance. These negotiations are the most relevant the Wild have been since they signed Ryan Suter and Zach Parise.

    If the team loses Kaprizov, it won’t just be losing a great player; it will also be losing a key component of its franchise. The Wild will face questions about their ability to attract and retain top talent. What happens with Kaprizov is a watershed moment for the organization.

    The vital nature of the situation leaves Bill Guerin and Co. in a tough spot. The worst-case scenario is that Kaprizov plays out his contract and becomes a free agent. The star Russian forward will become an unrestricted free agent next July, so the Wild could get nothing for the most valuable player they’ve ever had.

    There’s also a situation in which the Wild trades Kaprizov. Minnesota isn’t looking to do that yet, but the longer this goes, the more likely a trade becomes. If the Wild are wary of tampering with Kaprizov as Friedman and Russo suggest, a trade negotiation could get interesting.

    If tampering whispers persist, the Wild could find themselves in a situation similar to Toronto, where even unproven concerns influenced how negotiations unfolded.

    The Wild don’t want to trade their star. Still, they could get interested teams to pay more if Minnesota can build a strong enough case to make a tampering allegation credible.

    Any potential tampering allegation would be difficult to prove. However, if the league is looking to make an example of a team, as Friedman reported during the Marner situation, then opposing GMs will tread lightly if there’s even a hint of it. Those concerns are especially warranted because of the potential steep penalties that could be incurred if a team is involved in tampering.

    Of course, the most desirable outcome is that Kaprizov re-signs with the Wild, and these whispers prove much ado about nothing.

    A Kaprizov extension in Minnesota makes the most sense for every party. The Wild keep their star and are in a position to pay him as well as anyone else. The league would also prefer it to avoid any drama surrounding possible contract tampering.

    The NHL has tiptoed around tampering concerns for years, but Kaprizov’s situation highlights why the issue won’t stay quiet forever. If other teams are whispering, it raises questions about competitive balance and how smaller-market franchises can realistically protect their stars.

    The Wild’s negotiations with Kaprizov might be the most transparent test case yet. What happens in Minnesota will determine the direction of the franchise, but it could also force the NHL to reckon with its own rules and culture.

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    So MN exits historic cap penalties and finds itself in the midst of a tampering, slash, owner-blabbermouth drama of historic proportions. Sounds about right... :classic_laugh:

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    Well the tampering was brough about by Wild themselve with their off season behavior . Also Kaprisov can read score sheets . 

    Rossi did an excellent season and they underpaid him 

    He got 4 when other players with similar numbers got 6 or 7 million 

    So if I m Kaprisov and my own contract is portrayed as only a "return flight from Moscow away" I m at least curios what other teams are offering just to compare to Wild offer and asking my agent to have ears like "Dumbo" 

    Same goes with teambuilding in general or maybe also situations like teams pushing for players when returning from injury 

    The paycheque is not a gamechanger when you are aware that next team down the road would offer similar numbers 

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    2 hours ago, NoJoSux said:

    So MN exits historic cap penalties and finds itself in the midst of a tampering, slash, owner-blabbermouth drama of historic proportions. Sounds about right... :classic_laugh:

    Out of the frying pan and into the fire...

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    1 hour ago, goenzoy said:

    Well the tampering was brough about by Wild themselve with their off season behavior . Also Kaprisov can read score sheets . 

    Rossi did an excellent season and they underpaid him 

    He got 4 when other players with similar numbers got 6 or 7 million 

    So if I m Kaprisov and my own contract is portrayed as only a "return flight from Moscow away" I m at least curios what other teams are offering just to compare to Wild offer and asking my agent to have ears like "Dumbo" 

    Same goes owith teambuilding in general or maybe also situations like teams pushing for players when returning from injury 

    The paycheque is not a gamechanger when you are aware that next team down the road would offer similar numbers

    But, isn't most of this the definition of tampering? How would Paul T. know if someone else was interested unless there was tampering? Is he sitting in the Rangers' GM office and talking about Panarin and then just asks "so, what would you pay Kaprizov if he was, let's say, available?" 

    And, if this gets out about Paul T., does the agent get banned? It's hard to know the market price for a guy when you get to this level. $16m is unchartered territory, and with the cap raising it's even further darkened. 

    Of course, none of us are behind the closed doors of the negotiation, but you'd think that a counter offer would be made by Paul T. It could very well be that he wants to wait for the cap to go up so he can make the best deal, but if other clubs are "interested," that's simply tampering. 

    Also, you don't want this to be a situation like the Micah Parsons contract either where Jerrah just kind of disrespected the agent and offended Micah. I think a little bit of understanding needs to come from Paul T. though as we were quite stung by the Gaborik departure. 

    Once upon a time, there used to be something known as the Twins' curse. A player who left the club for "greener pastures" typically bottomed out, or worse in the case of Lyman Bostock. It also wasn't like Gaborik after leaving set the world on fire in NY. I just thought I'd throw that out there just in case it had legs and anyone was superstitious. 

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    Getting into the cuts, I'm still surprised to see Johnson still on the roster. Lambos being sent down, to me, indicates they want to see a bit more of Johnson AND Brodin is ahead of schedule on his return. 

    I'd still rather have Brodin-Jiricek partners and Buium-Spurgeon partners. I'd let Bogo be the 7th, but, I do wonder if Bogo is wanting that role or may want to move on to somewhere where he can play? Would Johnson make a good 7th D, but a callup of Lambos happens if there is an extended injury where he draws in and plays? 

    I'm still thinking the Wild start the regular season with 22, or if they need to sneak Cal through waivers, they wait and he'll be 23. I had wanted Lambos to take over that 3rd pair left side IF Brodin was still sidelined. Looks like that may not be the case.

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    This made me mad.

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    Rising cap changes position Kaprizov, the Wild, and others

    TSN: Minnesota Wild owner Craig Leipold is confident that GM Bill Guerin can get a deal done with Kirill Kaprizov. The rising salary cap is complicating things.

    “That’s a lot of new money in the system that, frankly, a year or two ago we certainly had no idea was going to be available,” Leipold said. ”So, it does change things, but we have to change with it.”

    OCL, you had no idea that this new money was going to be available???????

    Even us amateur armchair GMs knew this money was coming, it was obvious with the new tv deals!!!!!!!

    How does a successful businessman such as yourself not have a pretty good indication as to what is going to happen with the cap 5 years out??????? This would have been discussed behind closed doors in the governors meetings!!!!! All owners know this was going to happen!!!!!!!

    Don't try to pull the wool over our eyes and claim cluelessness!!! Nobody is buying it!!!! If you're going to lie to us about this, what else are you lying about??????

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    I didn't watch NHL for a long time cause you couldn't find the games on TV for a lot of years it seems, the last few years I've been able to watch and got renewed interest in the Wild. I thought like probly most fans that buyout cap hell ending would bring the ability for the Wild to be competitive but after watching the league allow abuse of rules and norms such as Vegas and their "creative" use of IR rules that let them circumvent the salary cap and now whispers of tampering with Kaprisov I'm not sure I want to be emotionally invested anymore. 

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    1 hour ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    Is there a frenchie in our midst

    Or perhaps from Canada, UK, Australia, NZ, India, or really anywhere else in the world besides the US — I think most folks learn UK English in other countries over US English.

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    If you asked me, the tampering questions are just the easiest explanation to give if Kaprizov did indeed reject the initial contract offer. This seems to be more true although initially there was a denial from the Wild. After all, MN would have made an offer by now. Kaprizov isn't signed, so there's a pretty good chance it's not rumor but true. 

    Now, did he reject cause he wants out of MN? Tampering possible? Is he waiting to see what happens with other big name guys? All three things are possible, but there's no way OCL or GMBG would publicly admit they're losing the plot. 

    They've been outspoken. In this case OCL's comments did not help, and never needed to be said at all. If there is indeed teams floating offers and it screws the Wild, I don't think anyone would be surprised. Blame-game will ensue. NHL will say, nothing can be proven. 

    It's a business right? We always hear that. Top talent wants to be on a winning team. The Wild are perennial losers.

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    2 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    Is there a frenchie in our midst

    I'm guessing Switzerland as Gonzoy seemed to be pretty well informed on Rossi's summer actives this off-season.

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    Kaprizov has a full No-Movement clause in his current contract. I seriously doubt that trading him (as many of these articles suggest is an alternative) is even an option for the Wild. He turned down the most lucrative contract proposal in NHL history, and he is not even in the top 5 NHL players in the league right now. Clearly he wants to be on a winning team; a team that is a REAL Stanley Cup contender. Why would Kaprizov agree to be traded to a team that is giving up substantial assets for him - making them less competitive than if they sign him for free - when he could just wait and sign with them as a free agent in the summer?

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    25 minutes ago, Scalptrash said:

    How long before the fans turn on Kaprizov, for being greedy, and start booing him? He and his agent are the most complicit if there is any tampering.

    I am already there.  Will be booing everytime he touches the puck and causing me to look for another team to cheer for like Colorado or Utah. The Wild should not put up with his BS and have a backbone.  No one player is worth this.  Guy acting like a prima donna and I have hope they have asked for his team trade list.  He needs to be gone before season.  And take McNugget (zuccy) with him

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    I think the fans are going to mostly be concentrated on the game itself and how the team plays , they might boo the power play or some other part of the game but i dont think they will boo Kaprizov about his contract status ,  if he leaves i could see him getting booed next year as a visitor ,  Were pretty strong opinion here but its not the same at the arena . 

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    I love Kaprizov. I’d rather get picks and young prospects than lose him for nothing. I also don’t want a repeat of Parise/Suter. Sorry but if dolla bill Kirill doesn’t want to play hear for a record contract I don’t want to play the game he and his gm are playing. Also thanks Craig for taking away all our negotiating power by telling the hockey world no one will out bid us. Great move.

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    If there is tampering it most likely is coming from the Rangers. Artemi Panarin and Kaprizov have the same agent and Panarin is also due for a new contract. So Theofanus has been around the Ranger's offices just as he has been around the Wild's. How would you ever prove tampering? Do the Wild plant a bug in Thefanus's suit and record his conversations? 

    I do recall reading something that Kaprisov and Panarin are quite friendly so perhaps the agent has been exploring the possibility of the two winding up on the same team? Theofanaus has been around a long time and has a reputation of getting his clients the most money possible. He does not get pushed around by GM's he is the alpha agent to Billy's alpha GM. He is also not stupid enough to do any tampering in a way that will expose him. 

    We will know in nine days if Kaprisov is staying or going. Every day that passes without him signing a contract the less likely he stays imo. 

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    9 hours ago, NoJoSux said:

    It's a business right? We always hear that. Top talent wants to be on a winning team. The Wild are perennial losers.

    It's a professional sports league...it's entertainment. Every team would have the same chance to win if not for $hit like this. I jokingly say/post that sports are rigged. As with all the pro leagues (and high profile  amateur sports), popular teams and players get beneficial calls and rules.

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    9 hours ago, Scalptrash said:

    How long before the fans turn on Kaprizov, for being greedy, and start booing him? He and his agent are the most complicit if there is any tampering.

    I was saying boo-urns...

    Seriously, I won't boo him unless he leaves and comes back as a visitor ala Suter. I'm getting fed up with the whole thing honestly. If he doesn't want to be here let him go and get some assets on the way back.

    Have heard since Kirill signed that his most important thing is winning a cup, well no s*** every player that plays in the league wants to. I don't know of a superstar that would be like "welp guys, I'm tickled to be here on a bottom feeding team."

    If he is really all about winning and he likes it in Minnesota as much as he's come out and said then he should sign a team friendly deal so there's more room for another asset at the TDL.  

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    11 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

    Getting into the cuts, I'm still surprised to see Johnson still on the roster. Lambos being sent down, to me, indicates they want to see a bit more of Johnson AND Brodin is ahead of schedule on his return. 

    He's still on the roster but he hasn't been officially signed off of his PTO.

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    57 minutes ago, MacGyver said:

    If there is tampering it most likely is coming from the Rangers. Artemi Panarin and Kaprizov have the same agent and Panarin is also due for a new contract. So Theofanus has been around the Ranger's offices just as he has been around the Wild's.

    Even though Panarin and Kaprizov have the same agent, I'm not sure they both wind up on the Rangers next year.  Panarin is also UFA next season and could've re-signed by now, and NYR has a different GM in Drury than the one who originally signed Panarin.  There was a scandal and settlement involving Panarin and former team employee last season, I would bet Drury moves on from Panarin next year to resolve locker room distractions, but Shesterkin and Gavrikov will still be there.  There is a strong russian community in New York City that could draw Kaprizov, but their roster is getting older.

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    10 hours ago, mnhockeyfan03 said:

    Will be booing everytime he touches the puck and causing me to look for another team to cheer for like Colorado or Utah.

    Funny, I had already decided early this summer to start following Utah. I really like their roster and what they are doing. They will be a very fun team to watch. And....they'll win a cup before the Wild, I'd bet money on it.

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    10 hours ago, mnhockeyfan03 said:

    Will be booing everytime he touches the puck and causing me to look for another team to cheer for like Colorado or Utah.

    Going to have to change your username...

    I'm frustrated like anyone else but at the end of the day it's not going to determine who I root for, may change who I root against but not jumping ship if Kaprizov leaves. 

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