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  • Kaprizov Reportedly Turns Down 8-Year Extension. Now What For the Wild?


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    Tony Abbott

    The Minnesota Wild's plan for re-signing Kirill Kaprizov was simple: Wait until he got back to the United States and knock him over with a massive deal. Rumors circled that the Wild were willing to give Kaprizov eight years at a $16 million Average Annual Value, a contract that would make the franchise's first mega star the highest-paid in the NHL.

    It sounds like they did just that, and struck out.

    A fan base that has been nervously awaiting the news that the Wild locked up their guy is not going to receive this news well. Kaprizov hits unrestricted free agency next July 1, which kicks up the urgency to make a decision with Kaprizov. Can the Wild find a way to sign him, or do they have to start going another way?

    No one in the State of Hockey is looking for optimism at this time, but it is worth mentioning that rejecting this mega offer isn't confirmation that Kaprizov's days in Minnesota are numbered at 300 or fewer. Turning down a deal that makes you the highest paid in the NHL is admittedly a pretty big red flag, but even from a purely financial standpoint, there are reasons to reject an eight-year offer.

    Kaprizov spent his last four years (and will spend this one) as underpaid on his contract from essentially Day 1. He signed a five-year, $45 million deal ($9 million AAV), averaging 48 goals and 99 points per 82 games ever since. That could very well be a motivating factor in these negotiations.

    While most NHL players tend to opt for the security of a long-term contract -- and often, for a lot less money than $128 million -- seven- and eight-year deals tend to be extremely team-friendly for anyone in or around their prime. The cap goes up, new records get broken, and a $9 million deal in 2020 goes from being market-setting at the time to a bargain in 2025.

    Sixteen million dollars is a ton of money, and it's going to be a lot of money in the future. There's no disputing that. It'd be about 15.4% of the salary cap in 2026-27, which would be Year 1 of the deal. In Year 2, when the cap rises from $104 million to $113.5 million in 2027-28, that percentage dips to 14.1%. Let's assume the cap rises to $120 million in 2028-29. $16 million is now "just" 13.3% of the cap, the equivalent of someone making $12.7 million this season.

    Again, that's a lot of money. But assuming that Kaprizov is a player worth 15.4% of the cap today, by the time we get to Year 3, he could be an $18.5 million player on the open market.

    And that's just by Year 3, while making a pretty modest guess as to how the cap will rise. You have to bet on the cap continuing to rise, leaving Kaprizov a total bargain over the following five years.

    Putting $16 million dollars in front of Kaprizov suggests the Wild believe money is a motivating factor. Why wouldn't it be? But if money is a motivator, $16 million is going to start looking underwhelming as we creep toward 2030 and beyond, at least for a player of his stature.

    The best-case scenario for the Wild here is that Kaprizov isn't willing to go eight years, but he is willing to stay in Minnesota for three-to-five years. That's exactly what happened last time, if you'll recall. But even on a shorter deal, we shouldn't expect Kaprizov to come cheap.

    Auston Matthews did this exact thing in Toronto, inking a four-year deal with the Maple Leafs that kicked in last year at $13.25 million AAV, or 15.06% of the cap. If that's the framework for a shorter-term deal for Kaprizov, that would land at around $15.6 million of a $104 million salary cap.

    That's a great illustration of why eight years might not be appealing to Kaprizov. Why lock yourself in for eight years at $16 million if you can get $14 million over four? Or even $15 million?

    We can see potential for a contract standoff to happen over this. Bill Guerin and the Wild might think, why pay top-dollar for Kaprizov for a short-term deal? It's a fair question, but if that's what it takes to keep Kaprizov in Minnesota... they kind of have to suck it up and do it.

    There's no way Kaprizov doesn't know the leverage he has over Minnesota. They've been a superstar-starved team for two decades, and their whole plan for contention revolves around keeping him in St. Paul. Kaprizov has the ability to max out his earnings for the next three, four, or five years, while still getting to cash in again in his early 30s. 

    If he wants to.

    That's going to be the question now. Is he amenable to stay in Minnesota, or not? If Kaprizov does, it's clear that it's going to be entirely on his terms, and the Wild front office and ownership will have to smile and thank him for doing so. If not... well, let's hope that's not the case.

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    52 minutes ago, Beast said:

    Kaprizov deal in excess of $16M

    Agree with a lot of your post. I want to see a reasonable line drawn in the sand similar to the negotiation with Marco Rossi. I know the players and situations are different but no one player is bigger than what’s best for the team. My biggest concern isn’t signing KK, but OCL caving in for reasons that are his own money driven ones. Florida has won back to back cups with 10$M tops AAV. Maybe the Wild can start a new trend, make it under $9M. suddenly Faber becomes the #1 contract. Get KK at a deal within reason or deal him with good reason. 

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    If they really offered 8 x 16 it's not about money. It's about winning (and not competently stocking the lakes around the Twin Cities with enough Walleye). The question then becomes what is KK willing to give up to win.

     Huck mentioned 5 x 15. That ain't enough. He needs to give up more than that IMO.

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    3 hours ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

    Kind of wish The Athletic would have waited to validate prior to posting the Seravalli report.

    You want RUSSO to validate before publishing a juicy rumor!  Lol. He is way too much of a narcissist.

     

    If this ends up being true it's good for the Wild. You can't win paying a fragile 12 million dollar a year guy 16 million.  If it's true trade him ASAP because another year of 50 games and he won't get you anything.

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    7 minutes ago, Patrick said:

    If this ends up being true it's good for the Wild

    What do you think would be the best scenario moving forward If KK walks? I had the Wild contenting (top eight)  around 2027 assuming KK extended. If he’s gone yikes. $16M was the very highest I was hoping to go to keep KK and avoid a ten year rebuild. Christmas Day feels like it’s becoming The Grinch that Stole Christmas instead. 

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    1 hour ago, Willy the poor boy said:

     (and not competently stocking the lakes around the Twin Cities with enough Walleye).

    Actually, I’ve heard that Kirill is more of a Northern Pike kind of guy. It tastes more like the fish he catches in Siberia.

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    Makes sense for Kaprizov to sign for a shorter term deal.  

    Makes sense for Guerin to want to sign him for a longer term deal.  

    What could be happening is the possiblity that there might be some Russian collusion going on here.  Where Kaprizov says he wants a smaller dollar value if they sign someone like Panarin in the off season.  Or the conspiracy that Putin wants more money to take from Kaprizov.

    Regardless if he doesn't sign by the start of the season they have to move him at the trade deadline.  Doesn't matter where the team is in the standings or how good they are.  If Kaprizov goes free agent on July 1st everyone in the league will want to make him the highest paid player in the league.  

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    6 minutes ago, 1Brotherbill said:

    What could be happening is the possiblity that there might be some Russian collusion going on here.

    I thought it was meddling.

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    3 hours ago, Beast said:

    I don’t know what kind of benefit there would be for any party to fabricate and leak that information.  Doesn’t make sense for either side.  That leads me to lean toward it being true.

    It gets the core fanbase riled up, it gets corporate sponsors riled up, and it gets broadcast partners riled up. All of which gets ownership riled up. Giving this to the press (fact or fiction) generates leverage.

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    1 hour ago, Willy the poor boy said:

    If they really offered 8 x 16 it's not about money. It's about winning

    More likely about the length of the contract. If he takes a shorter contract he can cash in again on his next contract when the salary cap is bigger. That would be ALL about money.

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    9 minutes ago, FredJohnson said:

    More likely about the length of the contract. If he takes a shorter contract he can cash in again on his next contract when the salary cap is bigger. That would be ALL about money.

    Unless he gets a career ending or limiting injury.  

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    11 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    If it wasn’t the agent or the Wild who else knew besides 97.  Is bill going full “find the leaker” mode while Rome burns?

    bill are you fucking this up and providing real time updates

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    5 hours ago, BeanPole Harvester said:

    We've all got our opinions on each contract that is on the books and that will of course vary for each of us. Dean, I am curious, as we know you are not a fan of Billy, if you were given the position to personally terminate his contract and hire his replacement, who would you choose? If you are taking a GM from another team, how do you get them over to the Wild?

    He never answers these types of questions because it wouldn't be something he could complain about later.

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    6 hours ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

    Kind of wish The Athletic would have waited to validate prior to posting the Seravalli report.

    Russo confirmed that he did turn it down. Reiner is an idiot

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    All the talk about this team not being close and him knowing he’ll never win here is a stretch. Wild were the better team against Vegas… they lost because at the end of the day Vegas had so much more talent it tickled your prostate. With the expiring contacts coming the next two seasons the base is here and we can start to make smaller adjustments / upgrades. Boldy is a star and with his size has the ability to be Kaprizov level, he’s still 24. Rossi also 24, really just needs more consistency in his game, but both are very motivated to be better (Olympics help). Hartman never found consistency except for playoffs last season. Hartman (31) has all the talent and ability, he might just need more on the line to get it up. Let’s see what Yurov and Ohgren can bring. Vlad could surprise this year and it’s only one year. If the Wild can find two solid players over the next two years and this wave of rookies has two seasons to grow, year three could have a legit chance. Firing Billy will still help this plan. 

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    3 hours ago, Burnt Toast said:

    What do you think would be the best scenario moving forward If KK walks? I had the Wild contenting (top eight)  around 2027 assuming KK extended. If he’s gone yikes. $16M was the very highest I was hoping to go to keep KK and avoid a ten year rebuild. Christmas Day feels like it’s becoming The Grinch that Stole Christmas instead. 

    You have to trade him and get something in return. I love watching KK and hope this is all rumors and he signs for 5 x 13 or something similarly sane. But if he walks the Wild have an attractive young team and a ton of cap space. They will be able to get some players.

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    8 hours ago, Citizen Strife said:

    I din't have rose colored glasses.  I just think anyone happy to trash a team everyday or winning internet arguments by doing so could have better things to do 

    I don’t see it as trashing the team. He’s just being brutally honest with what he’s seeing. The truth seems to be very unpopular sometimes. A lot of people on here thought there was no way he was leaving and he may not be but I’d say this is definitely a sign in the wrong direction. When Kaprizov said the most important thing to him was winning, did you really think there was nothing to worry about?

    Can you say without a shadow of a doubt that you believe this team can get out of the first round given their long history of doing the exact same thing since the team’s inception? Even if they could get out of the first round, can you say without a doubt you could see this team winning a Stanley cup with the way it’s built? I believe you have a good understanding of what a team needs to have, in order to win a cup right? Kaprizov isn’t dumb. He can see what a lot of us can see. I guess my question is, if he were to leave(hopefully not) do you think maybe it’s time this team does an actual true rebuild in order to build a true cup contender?

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    8 hours ago, SkolWild73 said:

    So what happens if Kap signs for 4 or 5 years?  Is the team and management good then?

    Wouldn’t that depend on if they can make it out of the first round? I’m genuinely curious as to what people’s goals are for this team? Do people consider it a win if he signs but we continue to make first round exits? Shouldn’t the goal be to win a Stanley Cup in the state of hockey? I’m genuinely curious. It just seems like I have a different idea of what winning and what’s good is.

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    I never understood why some of you guys expected the 28 year old KK, a superstar, to just trust in Guerins 5-year plan and waste his best years in MIN instead of trying to get his money/value at a real contender and use his leverage. As KK I would tell BG: 'Hey look, Billy: Your roster is shit in the moment, with little potential to win something in the next 3 years and the cap is rising quick. And I played for cheap here since 4 years. I can offer you(!) 4 years with 15 M AAV, including NTC for the first 2 years, so you have a another 3year chance from now to convince me to your big plan, and maybe I sign a new contract then or leave. Its the max I can offer you, Billy'. 

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    2 hours ago, fikifuka said:

    I never understood why some of you guys expected the 28 year old KK, a superstar, to just trust in Guerins 5-year plan and waste his best years in MIN instead of trying to get his money/value at a real contender and use his leverage.

    💣truth bomb💣

     Best case now is that he signs a 3 year deal, so he can basil at 32 during his tarasanko years with a team like FL

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    The only way to know for sure if the Wild are a legit playoff team is to see them win the rounds in action.  No purpose built formula or team construction can guarantee that. 

    The Wild got to the WCF once as a fluky expansion team.  The second round by gutting it out over Colorado.  Other than that, we know jack.  I would love to know what does.  Winnipeg and Hellebuyck dominate the regular season only to nearly choke to the freaking Blues.

    But let me ask what they gain if they had just plain tanked instead, or do so if Kap leaves?

    Ottawa, New Jersey, Detroit, Buffalo, etc.  hasn't worked for them.  The thing is there are good to great pieces of talent around the roster.  Any young pieces this year fail to impress, ok.  You can say everything Guerin tried all pretty much backfired. (Coaches, veteran trades, youth and drafting).

    Kap has every right to look elsewhere, seek a shorter deal, or whatever else he wants.  The team would be far better served having Kap on the team than not.  But the team should also understand that not seeking a trade early would also be a dick move of he just wants out anyway.

    Kap And Fiala's best seasons at the same time didn't move the playoff needle.  I will readily admit not knowing the answer if that didn't even work.

     

     

     

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