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  • I've Been Watching Hockey Forever, and I Know When It's Time To Tank


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    Sean Flick

     

    Alright, I admit it, I can be a bandwagon fan for the Wild. However, in my defense, you need to protect yourself from letdowns when you’ve been a Minnesota hockey market fan for as long as I’ve been. 

    I remember watching North Star games with my dad in our musty basement. Having him time me with how fast I could run upstairs and get him another Grain Belt and bring it back down to him. I believe 4 seconds is my record. When Casio digital watches were the thing, my record creeped up to 4.3 seconds.

    Damn you, technology. 

    I saw Bobby Smith’s ridiculous goal against the Calgary Flames where he took an offensive zone draw, won it to himself, and deked through the bewildered Flames defense to score the goal. 

    I watched every single televised Team USA game in 1980 and was excited to see who would join the Stars the following year. I watched every game of the 1981 playoff season, only to be disappointed with the 5-game series loss against the New York Islanders. I listened in horror in 1992 to KQ when it was announced that they were moving to…Dallas??

    Where am I going with all of this? As I watch this season, I can only come to one conclusion: just tank, baby.

    We all know that this team will not, I repeat, will not win the Cup this year. With the cap hit against us for next year, in 2024-25, too. I don’t know why ownership and leadership have to sell us this notion of “competitive rebuild” when we can all see that we do not have the pieces to win it all. 

    At least not now. Will we? I believe so. With players like Kirill Kaprizov, Brock Faber, Matt Boldy, Jesper Wallstedt, and Marco Rossi here. And Danila Yurov, Marat Khusnutdinov, Carson Lambos, and Liam Öhgren on the horizon, why not add a couple more top-10 prospects? 

    I believe that GM Bill Guerin knows what it takes to build a team. He’s been in locker rooms to know pretenders from the real thing. All the haters out there are just projecting their frustration with how things have been going since the buyouts. From what I’ve heard, good riddance. I also believe that part of the fanbase’s frustration is because of the history of letdowns this market has had to go through.

    And also the fact that this fanbase, arguably the most knowledgeable fanbase in the league, is aware of the BS they are trying to tell us. “Competitive rebuild,” come on, Wild. 

    This market attends squirt, mite, high school, and college games just to root for their kids. We play in adult leagues because we love the game. We’ll still come out and watch as you go through the last half of this season and the next just to see the new kids play. We’ll want to show them that we are and always will be, the best hockey market in the league. 

    We enjoy watching our kids get better year after year. The same is true for our newest talent that you draft and develop. That includes talent on other teams. This team has a lot going for it: great venue, great metro area, great fans.

    Just tank. Be sellers at the trade deadline. Send Marc-Andre Fleury to Pittsburg or New Jersey. Get what you can for him. Frankly, it’s been awesome having him here and getting to No. 2 on the all-time wins list. 

    See what you can get for any of those guys not named Faber, Boldy, Wallstedt, Rossi, and Kaprisov, and bring up the kids to play the rest of the season. Give them the experience they need to play at the NHL level and let’s watch them grow. Having a couple of top 10 talent wouldn’t hurt either, would it?

    And so, as I sit here watching another Wild game with my granddaughter, a blooming hockey fan, I wonder how much longer I will have to wait to celebrate a Stanley Cup championship.

    I would certainly like for her to enjoy a franchise that is somewhat consistent every year so that she can become that hardcore fan who can enjoy every high and loathe every low.

    “Hey, sweetie, can I ask a favor?” I ask.

    “Sure, Papa!” she replies excitedly.

    “Would you go get me a bottle of Sprite from the fridge, please?” I inquire.

    “Will you time me?” she grins wryly.

    Leaning forward on my chair, I yell, “GO!” while pressing the start button on the stopwatch. Running upstairs with a huge grin, I hear the thumping of feet on the steps, the door of the fridge opening, the noise of what can only be described as an elephant charge across the ceiling, and back down the stairs arrives my granddaughter. A bottle of Sprite in her hand stretched out to me.

    “Time!?” she shouts.

    As I press the button on my Dad’s old Casio watch, the screen reads “4.2”. Cheering ensues.

     

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    On 2/12/2024 at 3:20 PM, manbearpig said:

    Locked on Wild Podcast can be critical but almost to a depressing point that makes you not even want to listen sometimes, same goes for Judds hockey show

    Judd is unlistenable. Just taking shots in the dark.

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    On 2/12/2024 at 12:46 PM, Pewterschmidt said:

    The can't miss prospect need to make the big club in top 6 contributor roles (eventually).  This will demote Fred, Foligno, Hartzy into bottom six grinder roles, where they now belong.

    In my eyes, that has to be the plan once the prospects are good enough to be in those roles.  For someone like Yurov, that could be next year if they can convince him to come over.  No, nothing should be given, but if he shows he's better, a top-6 spot should be his.

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    My problem with tanking as prescribed in the article is that tearing everything down to the floorboards with a couple younger players left means tears just to get back where you were. 

    Sure, some of the prospects will come in and do well while others will flounder, but it will take 5 years just to get back to where we were last year.  Do you really think Kaprizov re-signs with us? 

    I believe in the transition that is happening.  Lots of teams do the tank and try to rebuild.  How many small and medium market teams actually recover from it? 

    Arizona has seemingly been doing it their entire existence.  They've perennially been one of the worst teams in the league and have never had a first overall pick, nor do they ever do very well despite having top 10 picks almost every year.  Other small and medium market teams kind of do the same.  For every Colorado, there are a couple teams that never rebound and follow up a rebuild with another one.

    Tanking isn't a guarantee for a good team later on, but it is a guarantee your team is going to be even harder to watch.

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    On 2/12/2024 at 12:49 PM, Pewterschmidt said:

    Would listen to this show if it weren't for Michelletti.  It's a tie between his "tile saw" voice (can someone tell him to turn away from Mic when he coughs) or his lack of any insight.  ie - Pat what do you think?  Pat: It's hard to know....Thanks Pat.

    Michelletti is terrible to try and listen to. I really like Seth and the locked on Wild podcast but Michelletti Mondays are a hard pass for me. Every sentence is started with the whiny low to high "uhhhhh". The dude may have some hockey knowledge but terribly needs a public speaking course, makes it hard to listen to. 

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    14 minutes ago, TheGoosesAreLooses said:

    Michelletti is terrible to try and listen to. I really like Seth and the locked on Wild podcast but Michelletti Mondays are a hard pass for me. Every sentence is started with the whiny low to high "uhhhhh". The dude may have some hockey knowledge but terribly needs a public speaking course, makes it hard to listen to. 

    I believe this is Pat's kid.  Every statement begins with the uhhhhh and ends with an odd chuckle.  Can listen to this Michelletti either.

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    Hockeywilderness.com podcast needed. Members as hosts and guests. First topic & episode features mnfaninnc for North Stars Era stories and how to bulk up over the off-season tips. 

    Episode two: RochRinkRat's ghost joins the podcast from the darkest depths of the gutter where Zamboni snow goes to melt. Also jokes from Pewterschmidt and Up North Guy grumbles.

    Third episode: Music from the Willy and the Poor Boys Band and a salary cap deep dive with Mr.Cheetachu.

    I mean, sure there's those other guys but they stink... :classic_biggrin:

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    Just now, Protec said:

    I mean, sure there's those other guys but they stink... :classic_biggrin:

    Judd, Michelettii, etc. We can do just as well I bet with our guys and we can't be bought off by the Wild PR arm. Honest journalism we could call it. 

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    1 hour ago, Protec said:

    Also jokes from Pewterschmidt and Up North Guy grumbles.

    I'm in. I will start practicing my grumbling immediately. I am sure my wife will have much to add as well (concerning my grumbles).

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    1 hour ago, Protec said:

    Judd, Michelettii, etc. We can do just as well I bet with our guys and we can't be bought off by the Wild PR arm. Honest journalism we could call it. 

    Wait, we can't be bought off????? What you talkin' about Wills?

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    22 hours ago, Willy the poor boy said:

    Judd is unlistenable. Just taking shots in the dark.

    Yea you are not wrong I think he gets in that mode because he has to create content everyday for vikes and he probably carries over to Wild podcast.

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    33 minutes ago, manbearpig said:

    Yea you are not wrong I think he gets in that mode because he has to create content everyday for vikes and he probably carries over to Wild podcast.

    Also his partner to SKOL NORTH is Mackey. Not exactly mister up beat guy there.

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    8 minutes ago, Up North Guy said:

    Also his partner to SKOL NORTH is Mackey. Not exactly mister up beat guy there.

    I didn't like him as much at first but the more I listen he can actually be pretty funny sometimes. As for his wild podcast no Mackey just Judd and Declan and they do have Jessi pierce on along a lot of the time.

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    1 hour ago, manbearpig said:

    As for his wild podcast no Mackey just Judd and Declan and they do have Jessi pierce on along a lot of the time.

    I like Judd and I like Declan.  Not exactly Ryan Carter in terms of hockey IQ (Cart's is the Hockey IQ gold standard IMO), but fun to listen to and independent.  They will be critical of Wild org when necessary.

    Jesse Pierce provides zero insight IMO and AJ is a grouchy MN asshole.  He just complains.  That's his only move.  

    'Locked on Wild' dude is just there to fill air time and sell ads.  That doesn't stop me from listening if there's nothing else available but he's a male version of Jesse Pierce.

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