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  • It's Time to Move All of Hockey Day Minnesota Outdoors


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    Justin Wiggins

     

    Talk about putting a damper on a great day.

    Every year, Hockey Day Minnesota is celebrated across the state of hockey with a fever. The game is forever synonymous with the state's culture and people, perhaps second only to the State Fair. It’s a day to celebrate all ages of play, as youth and high school boys and girls games are televised from sunrise to sunset. It’s tough to see the scenes from Warroad this weekend and not immediately harken back to the days of being a child and rounding up your friends for a game of shinny on the local ODR.

    The energy was palpable all day. That is until the attention turned indoors and a Minnesota Wild team clawing for a chance at the playoffs. For a second consecutive game, the state’s NHL team blew a third-period lead at home, this time to the 17-30-2 Anaheim Ducks. The lack of defensive discipline was akin to an in-house squirt game played at a rink near you that morning.

    But the loss, their first on Hockey Day Minnesota in eight years, wasn’t the only damper to the end of an otherwise fantastic day of celebrating the game of hockey. The disappointment started at puck drop, with the lights shining bright inside Xcel Energy Center and a full crowd of 19,000+ on their feet. It felt like a normal, regular-season game. Because it was inside. After a day full of beautiful hockey on the shores of Lake Baudette, the penultimate game being played indoors just felt flat.

    That got me thinking: what if the Wild and the NHL moved Minnesota’s annual Hockey Day Minnesota game to the outdoors, joining the rest of the state in a days-long event of hockey in the frigid Minnesota climate? What if Hockey Day Minnesota culminated every year outside at Target Field, with 40,000+ Minnesotans bundled up and enjoying the game the way in the traditional sense that special day is supposed to invoke?

    That would be a fun tradition I think most Minnesota fans would welcome. Moving the annual Wild game to the outdoors would tie the whole day together – hockey being played outdoors across all ages, from the youngest hockey players to the pros.

    But is it possible? Likely not. The NHL tends to get in its own way repeatedly, so they'd meet a slam-dunk idea with resistance. Some of that reluctance to change is understandable but not impossible to overcome. Before getting into the benefits of such an idea, let’s debunk some of the most obvious complaints that may come from the league or the hockey world itself.

    It Wouldn’t Be Fair For Minnesota To Host An Outdoor Game Every Year

    Are we trying to make sure every game has equal footing? If we did, the NHL would have abandoned the current point structure and moved to the 3-point system years ago. Or are we genuinely attempting to grow the game? It should be the latter, and nothing helps grow the game like adding excitement to your product.

    Would it be completely fair for the Wild to host an outdoor game every year? Not really. But it also wasn’t fair to have Minnesota and three other teams have their schedules disrupted this past Fall and travel overseas to play in Sweden. Yet everyone agrees those international games are crucial to the NHL and growing its fan base.

    The same can be said for moving the Wild’s Hockey Day Minnesota game outdoors every year. It’s probably not fair to have a new team each year travel to Minnesota and play an outdoor game against a team with more experience playing in the elements. Still, the construction of these outdoor rinks and maintenance of the ice is better now than it’s ever been. The advantage would be minimal. Besides, you can mitigate some of that unfairness by having the Wild host an Eastern Conference team every year, so the game would affect playoff seeding less.

    The Minnesota Winter Climate Won’t Allow It

    Potential climate issues won’t take long to move past, but they still need to be addressed. Yes, Minnesota winters can occasionally be brutal. But most days, the cold isn’t so bad an outdoor game would need to be canceled. Some Hockey Day Minnesota events have been in some cold temperatures, but not cold enough to cancel any games. It’s hard to imagine an NHL game not being played when youth athletes can play through it. We’ve already seen the Wild play in sub-zero temps in a packed stadium.

    In the 16-year history of Hockey Day Minnesota, only once was it moved indoors due to the weather -- and that was in 2012, when the day was too warm. You wouldn’t have that problem with the technology available to the NHL. In 2014, they played a game at Dodger Stadium when the game-time temperature was a balmy 62 degrees.

    The issue of the weather would be almost non-existent. In the highly unlikely event the game can’t be played outdoors, the league could implement a contingency plan.

    It’s Too Many Outdoor Games

    Having too many outdoor games makes sense for a regular NHL fan. It’s the reason the NHL has been reluctant to add more outdoor games to the schedule. They want to maintain the uniqueness of the Winter Classic and only add one or two Stadium Series games each season. But ultimately, those outdoor games only get exhausting when they are on national TV.

    There's no reason to put the Hockey Day Minnesota game on TNT or ESPN. The idea would be to keep it regional for Minnesota sports fans. Why? Because such a game would only be special to the people it’s meant for – Minnesotans. It’s our day. Hockey Day Minnesota was not created to spread the sport to other parts of the NHL world. It was designed to celebrate a cherished pastime of our great state.

    Would adding a yearly outdoor game in Minnesota ruin the potential for the Wild to host another Winter Classic? Perhaps. But after how the first one went, maybe that’s not such a bad idea.

    There's probably more debate to be had over the possibility of moving the Minnesota Wild game outdoors. But we can easily expunge most of those opinions in opposition to such an idea. It just makes too much sense not to do it. The largest reason is more revenue, the biggest motivator for the NHL.

    Moving the game outdoors would take an already profitable game for the Wild and triple, maybe even quadruple their revenue for the Hockey Day Minnesota game. The get-in price would probably not increase too much, but the increase from a capacity of 19,000 to 40,000, plus the increase in sponsorship abilities, would add quite a chunk of cash to the league’s hockey-related revenue.

    And that’s not only of benefit to the NHL, as they are continually in the top 10 in the NHL in revenue generated. Per the league rules, the top 10 teams in the league share a small percentage of those dollars with the bottom 10 teams in the league. Creating added revenue at the top only helps the health of the entire league. (Who knew trickle-down economics worked so well when sharing those profits was mandated, am I right?)

    While the added revenue makes it a near no-brainer for the NHL, it’s a move that needs to be made for the State of Hockey. It's deflating to watch every youth and high school game being played outdoors all day long is deflating, only to turn on the TV to see the Wild finishing the day indoors. It’s time to add the Minnesota Wild to the true tradition of Hockey Day Minnesota.

     

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    Serious question: Will there actually be a HDM in the future? Isn't that owned by Bally? What happens when Bally dies? I am not sure but seems like an important question. Perhaps the Wild own the concept. Does anyone know?

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    It looks like it is a Minnesota Wild concept with other partners. Bally is one of those partners, but I don't think they own the rights. I would think whoever negotiates the next regional Wild deal would then be a partner. 

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    Justin, this is a great idea! It is outside of the box and a definite tip of the cap to The State Of Hockey. I'd like to propose something a little different. It looks like some college venues also have indoor games. What if the Wild were able to host the outdoor game touring around some of the outdoor stadiums of the D-1 college stadiums? I'm not sure what their football capacity is, but perhaps it's big enough to host? 

    Why, in the biggest sport in the nation, do the Detroit Lions and Dallas Cowboys get to host a Thanksgiving Day game? How did that become a tradition? Why couldn't the NHL take a page out of their playbook and start something like this? 

    I would think having a major college game (men's and women's) at the same outdoor venue would be a win for the state, but this would probably have to rotate around. It also might require more festivities being on a Friday evening?

    I suppose there would be increased costs trying to retrofit a rink into different stadiums each year, but I'd also think that a lot of the equipment would be reusable. I do think this should be presented to the NHL. Now, if I'm not mistaken, in our Stadium Series and Winter Classic, I believe that was the NHL putting it on and all gate went to the NHL, not the Wild. Since this would be regional, how do you make it so it's a real Wild homegame?

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    Am I in the minority to not appreciate the outdoors game?

    To be fair, I've only attended one a long time ago (Badgers vs. Buckeyes @ Lambeau Field in '06) but it sucked as a fan.  The rink was too far away, and the angles just didnt work to see the action so I was stuck craning my neck to look at the Jumbotron, which didnt do a great job in following along with the game.

    Maybe they've figured it out in the past 20 years, but I think that if you made it an annual thing, you'd see the ticket sales dip and the enthusiasm from fans dwindle.  

    There's a difference between NBC vs. TNT, but the viewership for winter classics is also not trending in the right direction.

    https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2024/01/nhl-winter-classic-least-watched-opposite-rose-bowl/

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    59 minutes ago, MrCheatachu said:

    Am I in the minority to not appreciate the outdoors game?

    To be fair, I've only attended one a long time ago (Badgers vs. Buckeyes @ Lambeau Field in '06) but it sucked as a fan.  The rink was too far away, and the angles just didnt work to see the action so I was stuck craning my neck to look at the Jumbotron, which didnt do a great job in following along with the game.

    Maybe they've figured it out in the past 20 years, but I think that if you made it an annual thing, you'd see the ticket sales dip and the enthusiasm from fans dwindle.  

    There's a difference between NBC vs. TNT, but the viewership for winter classics is also not trending in the right direction.

    https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2024/01/nhl-winter-classic-least-watched-opposite-rose-bowl/

    nhlwinterclassictrend.png

    You are 100% right here. It's why I acknowledged the fatigue of too many outdoor games in the article. It's a serious concern, not only for this proposal, but also for the future of the Winter Classic. But I also think if you make the Hockey Day MN game only a regional thing, it could work because of the tradition it would start. I think it would be like going to a Twins game in the Summer - sure, lots of people are there, but it's more a social event than people actually hanging on to every pitch, or in this case, every face off. 

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    I also wondered about the fate of HDM with the demise of Bally. Details of the Amazon investment in Bally and exactly what Amazon plans on streaming is yet to be determined. But I don't see Amazon interested in streaming something as localized as HDM with the exception of the Wild game. One of the local networks would certainly pick it up as a wealth of advertising revenue would be available.

    I think the same would be true if a local network broadcast all the Wild games over the air. Plenty of ad revenue and increased viewership. Precisely what the NHL needs. People are getting away from cable and satellite and going to specific streaming services at a greatly reduced cost. I did this a couple years ago. All I have is Amazon Prime and Bally Sports app. I don't see any TNT games or NHL network or ESPN games and frankly don't miss it. Between what I already have for streaming and what I get on my antenna that's more tv than what I need at about a tenth of the cost. More people are discovering this same thing. 

    Personally I like HDM as it is. High school outdoors and the rest indoors. By moving everything outdoors attendance would suffer.  Particularly if the outdoor conditions are less than ideal.

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    20 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

    Justin, this is a great idea! It is outside of the box and a definite tip of the cap to The State Of Hockey. I'd like to propose something a little different. It looks like some college venues also have indoor games. What if the Wild were able to host the outdoor game touring around some of the outdoor stadiums of the D-1 college stadiums? I'm not sure what their football capacity is, but perhaps it's big enough to host? 

    Why, in the biggest sport in the nation, do the Detroit Lions and Dallas Cowboys get to host a Thanksgiving Day game? How did that become a tradition? Why couldn't the NHL take a page out of their playbook and start something like this? 

    I would think having a major college game (men's and women's) at the same outdoor venue would be a win for the state, but this would probably have to rotate around. It also might require more festivities being on a Friday evening?

    I suppose there would be increased costs trying to retrofit a rink into different stadiums each year, but I'd also think that a lot of the equipment would be reusable. I do think this should be presented to the NHL. Now, if I'm not mistaken, in our Stadium Series and Winter Classic, I believe that was the NHL putting it on and all gate went to the NHL, not the Wild. Since this would be regional, how do you make it so it's a real Wild homegame?

    One drawback is the cost of winterizing the stadiums. It has been done for Target Field and Huntington Bank Stadium. I am not sure if that would be an annual requirement or if doing it once would suffice.

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    1 hour ago, MacGyver said:

    I don't see any TNT games or NHL network or ESPN games and frankly don't miss it. Between what I already have for streaming and what I get on my antenna that's more tv than what I need at about a tenth of the cost. More people are discovering this same thing. 

    This is very opinionated on my behalf, but, even with streaming services, they give you these channels that really don't have much interesting content, at least for me. It seems like there are certain networks that have one or a couple of good shows and they expect you to pay a monthly fee. And who was even paying a monthly fee when the writers and actors were on strike and there was no new content?

    For me, Netflix subscription came with my phone plan, Paramount+ was free for a year, but once it cost me, it was eliminated. Disney bundle was the only thing I paid for (hockey out of market, and I have small grandkids for Disney). Most of the time I'm watching rerun shows because most of the current content is just sad! I have no idea how anyone caved into the writers guild, they're simply terrible these days. AI will probably write better scripts! Actors aren't that much better either.

    I had Directv and loved it when I was getting NFL Sunday Ticket. But, I got like 200 channels and really only watch a handful. So that means I paid for a whole lot of content I was not interested in. Why? And why wouldn't they offer me a package where I could just choose 20 channels that I'd watch? My suspicion is that 150 of those channels would go under if people like me weren't subsidizing them. Conclusion: I do not miss Directv and didn't as soon as I cut it out. I did enjoy the cost savings right away (and even then, I went to YouTubeTV and then to nothing when they got too expensive). Directv kept sending me mailers about missing them and "special" deals to come back. Still too expensive. 

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    3 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

    This is very opinionated on my behalf, but, even with streaming services, they give you these channels that really don't have much interesting content, at least for me. It seems like there are certain networks that have one or a couple of good shows and they expect you to pay a monthly fee. And who was even paying a monthly fee when the writers and actors were on strike and there was no new content?

    For me, Netflix subscription came with my phone plan, Paramount+ was free for a year, but once it cost me, it was eliminated. Disney bundle was the only thing I paid for (hockey out of market, and I have small grandkids for Disney). Most of the time I'm watching rerun shows because most of the current content is just sad! I have no idea how anyone caved into the writers guild, they're simply terrible these days. AI will probably write better scripts! Actors aren't that much better either.

    I had Directv and loved it when I was getting NFL Sunday Ticket. But, I got like 200 channels and really only watch a handful. So that means I paid for a whole lot of content I was not interested in. Why? And why wouldn't they offer me a package where I could just choose 20 channels that I'd watch? My suspicion is that 150 of those channels would go under if people like me weren't subsidizing them. Conclusion: I do not miss Directv and didn't as soon as I cut it out. I did enjoy the cost savings right away (and even then, I went to YouTubeTV and then to nothing when they got too expensive). Directv kept sending me mailers about missing them and "special" deals to come back. Still too expensive. 

    I still have cable and as soon as the Twins get straightened  out I will make my decision. Bally is holding everything up. Hoping the Twins, Wild and Gophers have solid streaming services. Not sure how I will get Vikings games. It is really hard to get over the air TV when you live up north. 

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    16 hours ago, Up North Guy said:

    I still have cable and as soon as the Twins get straightened  out I will make my decision. Bally is holding everything up. Hoping the Twins, Wild and Gophers have solid streaming services. Not sure how I will get Vikings games. It is really hard to get over the air TV when you live up north. 

    I went through several indoor antennas before I found one that received all the ota channels. However I'm just twenty miles south of Duluth. The lake place is south of Auroa/Hoyt Lakes and that's a different story I'll have to put up a mast and a outdoor antenna if I want to get all the available channels. I'm not that interested in tv up there so I most likely won't spend the money or effort. Same reason the hockey season ends for me in late April or early May when we open the cabin. I'm retired so I spend most of the summer up there. At least the NHL app lets you stream the audio off their app for free. I'll listen to that sitting by the fire sometimes. MLB however has audio streaming locked down. Can't even stream Twins games on your phone through your local radio station. Must pay for it through the MLB app. 

    I pay for Amazon Prime for reasons other than just streaming and have had it for years. I pay $20 a month for the Bally's app and I'm not sure why. The buffering is almost as bad as the Wild. If Prime starts streaming the Wild games that would be a excellent bonus for me. Cable and satellite companies know that live sports broadcasts are whats keeping them in business for now. Once fans get other options they will start going out of business. 

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