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  • Is Jordan Kyrou A Big Enough Fish For the Wild To Reel In?


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    Tony Abbott

    Since before the summer, the NHL has been waiting for the next big name to shake loose. The Minnesota Wild are, finally, no exception. But just as they regained their flexibility to make moves, the trade market dried up. There were no Matthew Tkachuks or Mikko Rantanens ripe for the plucking. There weren't even any medium-sized names who might move the needle.

    A month into the season, though, a bunch of teams that hoped to contend are finding themselves also-rans. The St. Louis Blues might be one of the first squads to give up, and they've got a name to throw into a stagnant trade market: Jordan Kyrou.

    The Blues are off to a sub-Wild start, with a 6-8-3 record, seventh in the Central Division. Kyrou's apparently been chosen as a scapegoat for this start, getting healthy scratched for a game last week. It's perhaps not undeserved, with just five goals and nine points through 16 games. 

    Those things won't cool the market for Kyrou, if he's available. Michael Russo and Joe Smith reported in The Athletic on Sunday that "it’s abundantly clear Guerin has been working the phones pretty furiously lately, and you can bet that even includes... Kyrou."

    On Wednesday's "Worst Seats in the House" podcast, Russo confirmed "the Wild are trying to trade for Kyrou," though expressed skepticism that they'd have the assets to get it done.

    Kyrou is a lot of great things. He's an excellent goal-scorer, shooting 13.6% on over three shots per game since the start of the 2022-23 season. Kyrou is one of the fastest wingers in the NHL and would bring a high-caliber right-shot option for the power play, something that the Wild have been missing for over a decade.

    Despite all that, there's one drawback: He's not Mitch Marner. He's no Rantanen. He's not even Brady Tkachuk, let alone the more talented Matthew. 

    That's important from the Wild's perspective, because they might get just one shot at making a big splash. Their prospect pool is good, but not so elite that they can spare huge assets on multiple trades. They have cap room going forward, but they'll presumably need cash to pay players like Zeev Buium down the road. 

    The Wild can push in their chips for Kyrou, and they'd be a better team for it. But how much better? Would it be enough?

    Let's turn to The Athletic's Player Tiers, compiled with both data and feedback from NHL coaches and executives, to get a sense of where Kyrou is at stacked against his peers. The panel put Kyrou in Tier 4C, the bottom of their "Star" tier. 

    OK, but what does that mean? His forward peers include Sam Bennett, Bo Horvat, J.T. Miller, Martin Necas, John Tavares, Carter Verhaeghe, and rising stars Logan Cooley and Matvei Michkov

    Trading for Cooley and Michkov, both in the early stage of what should be brilliant careers, would be a no-brainer, of course. But what about the rest of the list? Bennett and Tavares were free agents this offseason. Was anyone thinking that was the answer to the Wild's problems? Miller and Necas were both traded last season, and it's hard to think the Wild would be Stanley Cup contenders if they'd traded for either. Would any Wild fan plan a parade if the Wild got Verhaeghe tomorrow?

    Any of those names would have made Minnesota better, absolutely, but would it change the fortunes of the franchise? 

    In the Wild's pecking order, specifically, Kyrou wouldn't be close to the Wild's best player (Kirill Kaprizov, Tier 1C, "MVP"). He wouldn't displace Matt Boldy (Tier 3A, "All-Star") as Minnesota's second-best player. He'd be below Joel Eriksson Ek and Brock Faber (4B). Presumably, at some point Buium would overtake him, leaving Kyrou potentially outside the top five as soon as next year.

    In that case, the math for the Wild is simple: Can they win if their second-best player is Boldy?

    Ten teams have multiple players in Tiers 1 or 2 ("Franchise"): the Edmonton Oilers, Colorado Avalanche, Florida Panthers, Tampa Bay Lightning, Toronto Maple Leafs, Vegas Golden Knights, Dallas Stars, Winnipeg Jets, New Jersey Devils, and Carolina Hurricanes. That's a pretty comprehensive list of Cup contenders. You have to go back to 2021 to find a postseason where those teams didn't take all four Conference Finals spots.

    For the Wild to step into that next level with Kyrou, one of two things needs to be true. The first path is that Boldy keeps taking the next step into the "Franchise" territory. Boldy's on a 41-goal, point-per-game pace, which could well get into the conversation of being on par with William Nylander or Sam Reinhart. Combined with Kaprizov, that could be enough.

    The other route to contention with Kyrou would be that his fit with the team outweighs his talent. This could also easily be true. Believe it or not, the Wild actually have spent the ninth-highest percentage of their even-strength time in the offensive zone, per NHL EDGE.

    But in terms of actually generating offense with the puck, they're underperforming. Minnesota is 14th in expected goals per hour at 5-on-5, and 21st in shots on goal per hour.

    In other words, they can grind out offensive zone time on the cycle, but they're not shooting, and they're not getting quick-strike opportunities on the rush.

    As tracked by Natural Stat Trick, Marcus Foligno, Marcus Johansson, and Marco Rossi are tied with the most shot attempts on the rush at 5-on-5... with two apiece. That's not as bad as it looks -- Nathan MacKinnon leads the NHL with five, and just 116 players have multiple attempts -- but it does speak to a lack of team speed.

    Kyrou brings that threat on the rush, and it's an element the Wild often lack outside of Kaprizov. Dating back to the 2023-24 season, Kyrou is 16th in the NHL in 5-on-5 Rush Attempts with 27. That sails past Kaprizov and Ryan Hartman, who co-lead the Wild, (21, tied for 63th over that time). Kyrou can enter the offensive zone with ease and make dangerous plays happen, as All Three Zones shows us from their data from last season:

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    This is where the Wild would get a force multiplier in Kyrou that surpasses his own talent. His ability as a puck-carrier allows the team to give Boldy a true running mate away from Kaprizov. Generally speaking, Boldy is at his best when he has a linemate that can handle the majority of the puck-carrying responsibilities. It's why Boldy works well with Kaprizov, and to a lesser extent, Marcus Johansson. Being a line's primary puck carrier simply takes Boldy away from the other things he can do in the offensive zone.

    That wouldn't be an issue with Kyrou, who is more than happy to race the puck up the ice. Even better, he's a willing and frequent shooter, which is a giant improvement over Johansson, and would help create rebounds for Eriksson Ek and Boldy to put away. Meanwhile, Johansson would be free to move down a line, suddenly giving Minnesota three units who can enter the zone at a high level.

    Is that enough to move the needle for the Wild? Maybe, maybe not. But they might not be in a position to turn down a potential Kyrou trade and wait for the Next Big Thing. Who's to say that the next Marner or Tkachuk or Rantanen even want to go to Minnesota? How confident are Wild fans in the ability to land Artemi Panarin in free agency, let alone his ability to keep playing at a high level in his mid-30s? 

    There might be risk in landing Kyrou (if, of course, he's willing to waive his full No-Trade Clause for Minnesota), but there is also risk in inaction. The Wild might only get one shot to make a big splash on the trade market... or they might get zero. Kyrou might be that one shot, and that alone might be a good reason to push Minnesota's chips in on him now, instead of waiting for a better opportunity that may never actually arrive.

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    11 minutes ago, FredJohnson said:

    They're healthy scratching Kyrou...shouldn't he be cheap?

    no harm in trying - trenin + ohgren + jiricek (they love big defensemen) - we can even ask them retain some money too and take back vlady

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    St. Louis won't trade one of the their best players to a division foe, unless they grossly over pay (Billy is the perfect sucker for that scenario). 

    Kyrou will never accept a trade to a floundering bubble team. Why would he?

    Does anyone honestly think that Guerin, Hynes, and the Wild in general, don't have a bad reputation in the NHL. Do you think good players want to risk their reputation or future and get buried in MN? Look at how Billy has handled Rossi. Even Kaprizov was mishandled. Players know MN won't have the money (or brains) to build a contender.

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    20 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

    i don't think Wild have a 1st rounder in 2026? they traded it for a defensive stud....

    as for pick on our prospect - it would be either Wally, Yurov or Zeev - which one do you want to move for Kyrou? none right? or maybe Yurov. and Rossi too. that's not smart to do for the Wild. especially giving up two Cs for one W. And i am fairly certain Rossi and a top prospect is needed for us to pry from division rival their star.

    Yes, the Wild have their '26 1st. They traded their '25 1st which was a down draft. 

    I think we have a different definition of "prospect." The definition I was using was players who are not currently on the roster. That would take out The Wall, Yurov, Zeev and Rossi. It would be in the Haight, Heidt, Spacek, Lambos category. While older, I'd consider Cal Peterson to be one of those guys. 

    The typical formula for this type of thing is pick+prospect+rostered player. The rostered player is a cap dump many times, or, in our case, a $4m player. I would be ok trading someone like Hartman or Tarasenko + Heidt + '26 1st top 15 protected. I could sub out Heidt for Lambos. Lambos should be up here now, but Hunt blocked him (which I don't mind), which means he could be ready to enter their lineup. Binnington is a disaster, and grabbing Peterson or Vaj might be something they're considering.

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    19 hours ago, FredJohnson said:

    Sounds like Kevin Fiala. 👍

    I think Fiala had a little lower center of gravity, but it is kind of like a right handed Fiala and may play out that way.

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    32 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

    Yes, the Wild have their '26 1st. They traded their '25 1st which was a down draft. 

    I think we have a different definition of "prospect." The definition I was using was players who are not currently on the roster. That would take out The Wall, Yurov, Zeev and Rossi. It would be in the Haight, Heidt, Spacek, Lambos category. While older, I'd consider Cal Peterson to be one of those guys. 

    The typical formula for this type of thing is pick+prospect+rostered player. The rostered player is a cap dump many times, or, in our case, a $4m player. I would be ok trading someone like Hartman or Tarasenko + Heidt + '26 1st top 15 protected. I could sub out Heidt for Lambos. Lambos should be up here now, but Hunt blocked him (which I don't mind), which means he could be ready to enter their lineup. Binnington is a disaster, and grabbing Peterson or Vaj might be something they're considering.

    Hartman is a no go for me. Vlady - sure.

    but why would blues do this? They can wait it out and trade him later too

    i just don’t see them biting on such a low ball offer 

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    6 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    Hartman is a no go for me. Vlady - sure.

    but why would blues do this? They can wait it out and trade him later too

    i just don’t see them biting on such a low ball offer

    It's not really low ball, it's the normal NHL trade formula. pick+prospect+player. That's been done for quite awhile and is a GMs go to formula. In this case, I'd actually be fine with pick+2prospects+player.

    Hartman or Vlady would be the cap dump player to make the deal cap compliant. The rest are futures.

    This is how the contending teams go from playoff teams, they trade futures for now even though those futures may not look really good right now. They see a prospect they can make into a player. 

    This is exactly what Guerin did with Zucker. You get to choose the prospect from a list, and it might not be their better ones. He chose poorly in Addison. Galchenyuk was merely the cap dump, and the 1st was to be turned into the future player who makes a significant contribution. 

    In the Fiala deal, Guerin didn't need the cap player, especially since it was the offseason. So he probably got the pick and to choose from a better tier of players. LA wasn't trading Clarke, but would trade someone in the tier below. Faber, who I believe had been heavily scouted, was taken from the lower tier. I also believe that deal was already finished before Guerin had talked about Dumba and a hot month of Fiala. He got what he could from a player who had no intention of signing long term with the club, likely due to climate. 

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    On 11/13/2025 at 8:40 AM, OldDutchChip said:

    Why would STL gift us Kyrou? Ohgren is nothing special-They would want at least Yurov as a prospect and will likely push for Rossi - which I won’t do

    I was trying to be realistic at what it would take to get him, snd if that’s true - I’d walk away and wait

     

    I don’t think it realistically happens to be honest. But I think it would be dumb to get rid of Yurov for him. Did you hear teams are reaching out to Buffalo to see if Tage Thompson is available? Apparently a few teams have. Adam’s response has been the same though, not available at this time.

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    1 hour ago, mnfaninnc said:

    It's not really low ball, it's the normal NHL trade formula. pick+prospect+player. That's been done for quite awhile and is a GMs go to formula. In this case, I'd actually be fine with pick+2prospects+player.

    Hartman or Vlady would be the cap dump player to make the deal cap compliant. The rest are futures.

    This is how the contending teams go from playoff teams, they trade futures for now even though those futures may not look really good right now. They see a prospect they can make into a player. 

    This is exactly what Guerin did with Zucker. You get to choose the prospect from a list, and it might not be their better ones. He chose poorly in Addison. Galchenyuk was merely the cap dump, and the 1st was to be turned into the future player who makes a significant contribution. 

    In the Fiala deal, Guerin didn't need the cap player, especially since it was the offseason. So he probably got the pick and to choose from a better tier of players. LA wasn't trading Clarke, but would trade someone in the tier below. Faber, who I believe had been heavily scouted, was taken from the lower tier. I also believe that deal was already finished before Guerin had talked about Dumba and a hot month of Fiala. He got what he could from a player who had no intention of signing long term with the club, likely due to climate. 

    Zucker is not Kyrou

    Kyrou has averaged 35 goals per year the previous 3 years

    He is arguably their best player

    So why would they be willing to ship him to their rival for literally nothing?

    High first? Vlady? and Haight? this is not going to fly. 

    Guerin got lucky once with Faber and saved his ass a bit, but realistically this could have been a fleecing by LA. Armstrong is smarter than Bill. 

     

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    5 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    Zucker is not Kyrou

    This is absolutely true, but it doesn't change the typical NHL formula. 

    Kyrou was offered to Kraken for 8th overall this past draft. I don't know why it fell through but it might have been Kyrou who nixed it. 

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    24 minutes ago, Mateo3xm said:

    I don’t think it realistically happens to be honest. But I think it would be dumb to get rid of Yurov for him. Did you hear teams are reaching out to Buffalo to see if Tage Thompson is available? Apparently a few teams have. Adam’s response has been the same though, not available at this time.

    right, i would hesitate to include Yurov in the offer and think it'll take at least him for Armstrong to consider it

    Yeah - Buffalo is a dump again....but again realistically what will it take to pry Tage?

    would it require this type of package? 

    Zeev + Trenin + Vlady for Tage + Byram .... 

    🤔 

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    Just now, mnfaninnc said:

    This is absolutely true, but it doesn't change the typical NHL formula. 

    Kyrou was offered to Kraken for 8th overall this past draft. I don't know why it fell through but it might have been Kyrou who nixed it. 

    i can't recall the last time a star (in his prime) was traded to a division rival....or what that took. be curious to know 🙂

     

     

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    1 minute ago, OldDutchChip said:

    i can't recall the last time a star (in his prime) was traded to a division rival....or what that took. be curious to know 🙂

    Also, according to the national sources, St. Louis is having trouble finding a dance partner, and Army typically does this type of thing to shake up the lineup. However, the guys he's trading seem to be getting younger and younger.

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    3 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    haha some salary retention & third team?

    That's some heavy lifting. We're trying to squeeze $9m into $4.5m in space. Just exactly which Wild executive are you crediting to be creative enough to get this to happen? Also, I'm absolutely positive that Vlady will not go to Buffalo. 

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    The sad part about this is that if the rumors are true that many players have blocked MN on their NTCs, Buffalo and CBJ might be the only sources where this would seem like light at the end of the tunnel. 

    Kyrou could nix coming to us, though, it seems like he does like to score in our building.

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    4 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

    That's some heavy lifting. We're trying to squeeze $9m into $4.5m in space. Just exactly which Wild executive are you crediting to be creative enough to get this to happen? Also, I'm absolutely positive that Vlady will not go to Buffalo. 

    vlady can go to Buffalo, Iowa or back to FL 🙂 

    Trenin is going to Buffalo so that's another 3.5

    could Buffalo retain some money? or can we package our captain? return the favor for Pommy?

     

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    Just now, mnfaninnc said:

    The sad part about this is that if the rumors are true that many players have blocked MN on their NTCs, Buffalo and CBJ might be the only sources where this would seem like light at the end of the tunnel. 

    Kyrou could nix coming to us, though, it seems like he does like to score in our building.

    I'll pull a P-shooter and quote myself- on this topic, this is 1 area where I think we can make some headway. The perception of MN is still boring 200' neutral zone trap hockey. Perhaps what is needed to help the kids is more fire wagon hockey? Ottawa was a terrible team, but to keep fans interested, they became a team that had a lot of goals scored for and against.

    But that won't win, even as the kids progress. Fire wagon hockey would require a Celebrini or Benard. 

    But we do have Kaprizov and Boldy. Tier 1 and tier 3 players. I think the Wild present their team as a boring team, and do not help themselves with marketing. 

    A jersey redesign would help, but flash is really what is needed. Then, Kaprizov and Boldy need to really be marketed. Boldy shows up in one of the national adds for young guns "working from home." Kaprizov doesn't really do that sort of thing, but could he and Yurov do something for the Russian audience? 

    I think the key here is marketing your stars and having outstanding packaging. We have not marketed nationwide, or even globally as a team. Is this something that a kid like Benak could help us with in Eastern Europe? 

    Here's the main thing, the team needs more exposure outside of their market. They need more 97 and 12 jerseys floating around in other buildings. Changing the opinions of some players in Eastern Europe/Russia when they're young might change their minds about the area and team. It just takes a couple of real talented guys coming in wanting to be here. Faber and his 7 might also be marketed, and certainly Buium and 8. 

    I think our marketing department has let this franchise down.

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