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    Tony Abbott

    Since before the summer, the NHL has been waiting for the next big name to shake loose. The Minnesota Wild are, finally, no exception. But just as they regained their flexibility to make moves, the trade market dried up. There were no Matthew Tkachuks or Mikko Rantanens ripe for the plucking. There weren't even any medium-sized names who might move the needle.

    A month into the season, though, a bunch of teams that hoped to contend are finding themselves also-rans. The St. Louis Blues might be one of the first squads to give up, and they've got a name to throw into a stagnant trade market: Jordan Kyrou.

    The Blues are off to a sub-Wild start, with a 6-8-3 record, seventh in the Central Division. Kyrou's apparently been chosen as a scapegoat for this start, getting healthy scratched for a game last week. It's perhaps not undeserved, with just five goals and nine points through 16 games. 

    Those things won't cool the market for Kyrou, if he's available. Michael Russo and Joe Smith reported in The Athletic on Sunday that "it’s abundantly clear Guerin has been working the phones pretty furiously lately, and you can bet that even includes... Kyrou."

    On Wednesday's "Worst Seats in the House" podcast, Russo confirmed "the Wild are trying to trade for Kyrou," though expressed skepticism that they'd have the assets to get it done.

    Kyrou is a lot of great things. He's an excellent goal-scorer, shooting 13.6% on over three shots per game since the start of the 2022-23 season. Kyrou is one of the fastest wingers in the NHL and would bring a high-caliber right-shot option for the power play, something that the Wild have been missing for over a decade.

    Despite all that, there's one drawback: He's not Mitch Marner. He's no Rantanen. He's not even Brady Tkachuk, let alone the more talented Matthew. 

    That's important from the Wild's perspective, because they might get just one shot at making a big splash. Their prospect pool is good, but not so elite that they can spare huge assets on multiple trades. They have cap room going forward, but they'll presumably need cash to pay players like Zeev Buium down the road. 

    The Wild can push in their chips for Kyrou, and they'd be a better team for it. But how much better? Would it be enough?

    Let's turn to The Athletic's Player Tiers, compiled with both data and feedback from NHL coaches and executives, to get a sense of where Kyrou is at stacked against his peers. The panel put Kyrou in Tier 4C, the bottom of their "Star" tier. 

    OK, but what does that mean? His forward peers include Sam Bennett, Bo Horvat, J.T. Miller, Martin Necas, John Tavares, Carter Verhaeghe, and rising stars Logan Cooley and Matvei Michkov

    Trading for Cooley and Michkov, both in the early stage of what should be brilliant careers, would be a no-brainer, of course. But what about the rest of the list? Bennett and Tavares were free agents this offseason. Was anyone thinking that was the answer to the Wild's problems? Miller and Necas were both traded last season, and it's hard to think the Wild would be Stanley Cup contenders if they'd traded for either. Would any Wild fan plan a parade if the Wild got Verhaeghe tomorrow?

    Any of those names would have made Minnesota better, absolutely, but would it change the fortunes of the franchise? 

    In the Wild's pecking order, specifically, Kyrou wouldn't be close to the Wild's best player (Kirill Kaprizov, Tier 1C, "MVP"). He wouldn't displace Matt Boldy (Tier 3A, "All-Star") as Minnesota's second-best player. He'd be below Joel Eriksson Ek and Brock Faber (4B). Presumably, at some point Buium would overtake him, leaving Kyrou potentially outside the top five as soon as next year.

    In that case, the math for the Wild is simple: Can they win if their second-best player is Boldy?

    Ten teams have multiple players in Tiers 1 or 2 ("Franchise"): the Edmonton Oilers, Colorado Avalanche, Florida Panthers, Tampa Bay Lightning, Toronto Maple Leafs, Vegas Golden Knights, Dallas Stars, Winnipeg Jets, New Jersey Devils, and Carolina Hurricanes. That's a pretty comprehensive list of Cup contenders. You have to go back to 2021 to find a postseason where those teams didn't take all four Conference Finals spots.

    For the Wild to step into that next level with Kyrou, one of two things needs to be true. The first path is that Boldy keeps taking the next step into the "Franchise" territory. Boldy's on a 41-goal, point-per-game pace, which could well get into the conversation of being on par with William Nylander or Sam Reinhart. Combined with Kaprizov, that could be enough.

    The other route to contention with Kyrou would be that his fit with the team outweighs his talent. This could also easily be true. Believe it or not, the Wild actually have spent the ninth-highest percentage of their even-strength time in the offensive zone, per NHL EDGE.

    But in terms of actually generating offense with the puck, they're underperforming. Minnesota is 14th in expected goals per hour at 5-on-5, and 21st in shots on goal per hour.

    In other words, they can grind out offensive zone time on the cycle, but they're not shooting, and they're not getting quick-strike opportunities on the rush.

    As tracked by Natural Stat Trick, Marcus Foligno, Marcus Johansson, and Marco Rossi are tied with the most shot attempts on the rush at 5-on-5... with two apiece. That's not as bad as it looks -- Nathan MacKinnon leads the NHL with five, and just 116 players have multiple attempts -- but it does speak to a lack of team speed.

    Kyrou brings that threat on the rush, and it's an element the Wild often lack outside of Kaprizov. Dating back to the 2023-24 season, Kyrou is 16th in the NHL in 5-on-5 Rush Attempts with 27. That sails past Kaprizov and Ryan Hartman, who co-lead the Wild, (21, tied for 63th over that time). Kyrou can enter the offensive zone with ease and make dangerous plays happen, as All Three Zones shows us from their data from last season:

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    This is where the Wild would get a force multiplier in Kyrou that surpasses his own talent. His ability as a puck-carrier allows the team to give Boldy a true running mate away from Kaprizov. Generally speaking, Boldy is at his best when he has a linemate that can handle the majority of the puck-carrying responsibilities. It's why Boldy works well with Kaprizov, and to a lesser extent, Marcus Johansson. Being a line's primary puck carrier simply takes Boldy away from the other things he can do in the offensive zone.

    That wouldn't be an issue with Kyrou, who is more than happy to race the puck up the ice. Even better, he's a willing and frequent shooter, which is a giant improvement over Johansson, and would help create rebounds for Eriksson Ek and Boldy to put away. Meanwhile, Johansson would be free to move down a line, suddenly giving Minnesota three units who can enter the zone at a high level.

    Is that enough to move the needle for the Wild? Maybe, maybe not. But they might not be in a position to turn down a potential Kyrou trade and wait for the Next Big Thing. Who's to say that the next Marner or Tkachuk or Rantanen even want to go to Minnesota? How confident are Wild fans in the ability to land Artemi Panarin in free agency, let alone his ability to keep playing at a high level in his mid-30s? 

    There might be risk in landing Kyrou (if, of course, he's willing to waive his full No-Trade Clause for Minnesota), but there is also risk in inaction. The Wild might only get one shot to make a big splash on the trade market... or they might get zero. Kyrou might be that one shot, and that alone might be a good reason to push Minnesota's chips in on him now, instead of waiting for a better opportunity that may never actually arrive.

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    Kyrou’s 27 so that fits with KK’s timeline. The question is what players or picks would St. Louis want in trade that wouldn’t hurt the Wild these next few seasons? Probably a lot.  We could really use a “win the trade” moment about now. 

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    well kyrou would likely cost Rossi or Zeev - that's a no from me

    if they want yurov and trenin/vladi and a pick for him - perhaps

    but STL won't be trading us Kyrou for any crap that we have in IA - Kyrou scored more than Boldy the previous three years. averaging 35 goals. would we trade Boldy for STLs crap? nah probably not. so conclusion - unless you want to part with Rossi or Zeev - let's skip

     

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    If the options out there are Kadri, Panarin, or Kyrou, I'll take the younger guy.  We've seen teams constantly re-sign their top (and even mid-tier) guys in the last year or so.  This is one of those few opportunities to actually solve that Top 6 problem: a problem Zucc will age out of as early as next year.  Especially for a guy with stable money and term.

    What I also wonder is if or when the Blues take the option away.  Tons of teams are in the same 20 team middle mess the Wild are.  If St Louis goes on another of those 15-20 game win streaks, you can screw that Kyrou trade idea away in a bin.

    Is Kyrou the player you'd expect in a "big" trade?  Maybe not, but the team needs to get faster and younger.  He would fit the bill.  30 other teams won't balk at a Top-6 guy just cause "maybe possibly someday, a Top-3 is a dream option."

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    Can we trade them the one and only Jiricek???

     Because he’s totally a good player worth the assets we gave up for him. He just needs…another…change of scenery.

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    The question I have and it is a big one is why was he scratched?  It's a legit question to have.  

    Kyrou would be a good fit on the team.  Instantly top six worthy which would make the 3rd line better and the 4th line as well.  He is 27 and is signed for five more years.  So it seems like a good idea.

    What would you have to give up to get him.  Priority one is keeping the first round pick or getting St. Louis to swap picks.  Priority two is keep the top six of Kirill, Boldy, Rossi, Buium, Yurov, and Wallstedt.  Priority three keep the centers we have, not that they are great it's just that we need the few we have.  Priority four try and make the trade with just prospects.  If that means giving up Ohgren, Hiedt and Haight for Kyrou than do it.  

    Reality is the Wild have about 4 million in cap space Kyrou makes 8.15 a year.  So, right now without moving a contract to St. Louis they would have to wait until mid season to get him.  If they could move Zucarello to St. Louis that would make up the difference.  We all know that isn't going to happen.  Brodin and Rossi are the only players that don't have restrictions and make enough money to make the difference.  I wouldn't mind of Brodin left as much as Rossi.  

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    I think Zuccarello will get an extension for 1-2 years to finish his career in Minnesota, if he stays healthy this year and plays well. Wouldn't surprise me if he gets a front office job after that, though he's really engaged in youth hockey and fair play/ equal opportunities in Norway. Also, just a guess, he'd like his kids to grow up in Norway. Maybe some sort of scouting job in Europe, but then his history and standing in NYR is also a consideration.

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    12 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

    well kyrou would likely cost Rossi or Zeev - that's a no from me

    if they want yurov and trenin/vladi and a pick for him - perhaps

    but STL won't be trading us Kyrou for any crap that we have in IA - Kyrou scored more than Boldy the previous three years. averaging 35 goals. would we trade Boldy for STLs crap? nah probably not. so conclusion - unless you want to part with Rossi or Zeev - let's skip

     

    I’m thinking Ohgren would be the prospect and a first with maybe another mid player. They aren’t trading Rossi(because that would gut their already weak center depth) or Zeev(because his upside is far too high) Kyrou is 27 and Boldy is 24 so comparing what they did the last 3 years isn’t really comparable. Boldys upside May be higher in the next 3 yrs than Kyrou’s last three years.

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    50 minutes ago, Mateo3xm said:

    I’m thinking Ohgren would be the prospect and a first with maybe another mid player. They aren’t trading Rossi(because that would gut their already weak center depth) or Zeev(because his upside is far too high) Kyrou is 27 and Boldy is 24 so comparing what they did the last 3 years isn’t really comparable. Boldys upside May be higher in the next 3 yrs than Kyrou’s last three years.

    Why would STL gift us Kyrou? Ohgren is nothing special-They would want at least Yurov as a prospect and will likely push for Rossi - which I won’t do

    I was trying to be realistic at what it would take to get him, snd if that’s true - I’d walk away and wait

     

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    6 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

    Why would STL gift us Kyrou? Ohgren is nothing special-They would want at least Yurov as a prospect and will likely push for Rossi - which I won’t do

    I was trying to be realistic at what it would take to get him, snd if that’s true - I’d walk away and wait

     

    He’s saying ogz + 1st + mid player for kyrou

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    14 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    He’s saying ogz + 1st + mid player for kyrou

    The pick would have to be in 2027 and it would be in the 20s, assuming we are a better team w Kyrou

    so I’m not seeing STL doing us a favor 

    they will ask for more than Ohgren, 27 pick and Trenin/Vladi

     

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    If im the Blues, I don't even listen to a conversation that doesn't start with a first, Hunter Haight, and Adam Benak. It will take at least one roster player also (as a salary or two would need to be exchanged to make it work). And all this depends on if/when the Blues decide its a lost season...

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    It would be a little like bringing back Fiala. Not sure how a trade could come together. Ohgren and Jiricek would have some asset value, but it doesn't seem like they would prefer to trade Kyrou to a division opponent, so it probably costs more and the acquisition cost might be too high.

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    Trading Jiri at this point would be an admission of failure which the thin skinned tough guy is loath to do.  Not to mention Guerin nearly literally traded an entire draft for this project so we’re going to watch the Jiri Project™️ for a couple more years

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    The Athletic has a new story up, part of which is talking about Buium and Yurov gaining some trust throughout the organization.  The writers specifically indicated the 4th line of Foligno, Yurov, Trenin looking good, and I wanted to share a comment from Foligno on that.

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    “Yurov, for you guys not knowing what type of player he was, and especially us too, a new guy coming over from Russia,” Foligno said. “But, man, the 200-foot game is real with that guy. He can skate. He’s got heads-up plays. He’s got aggression in his game. It’s fun. I’m loving it. He’s very supportive around the walls, and as a winger, it’s very easy to understand where he’s going to be.”

    Looking forward to seeing more from Yurov as the season progresses.

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    2 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    Trading Jiri at this point would be an admission of failure which the thin skinned tough guy is loath to do.  Not to mention Guerin nearly literally traded an entire draft for this project so we’re going to watch the Jiri Project™️ for a couple more years

    I don't agree with that. GMs can like players, but it's primarily about asset collection. Guerin thought that Jiricek was worth more than the assets he parted with, and that remains to be seen. Now that he's had a closer look, he may or may not still feel that way. I doubt they love him so much that they wouldn't trade him for a clear immediate and long-term upgrade in scoring, but they certainly wouldn't trade him in a deal with both him and Rossi for Kyrou.

    Jiricek(still age 21) is likely going to be a long-term defenseman in the NHL, but we don't know which pairing and if he'll ever become better than Bogosian.

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    6 minutes ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

    Now that he's had a closer look, he may or may not still feel that way.

    My prediction is Guerin specific.  If the Jiri Project™️ is ultimately deemed a failure (not worth 1-4 rd picks + Hunt) it’ll be the next GM’s job to clean up the mess (ie trade Jiri).   Guerin will never admit it.  That means as long as Guerin is here, Jiri is here.  
     

    Jiri needs to be a top pair (ok fine, top 4) for this trade not to be a FAIL. 

    sort of like analyzing Fiala for Faber+ogz.  Is this one still a slam dunk win for Guerin?

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    I've got questions about Kyrou, but for me, it's probably him or Tuch.

    Is Kyrou a defensive liability? Would he buy into a 200' game? Is he tough enough in the playoffs? Can he score in the playoffs? What type of teammate is he?

    I read a rumor that there was a deal between the Kraken and Blues for Kyrou and the 8th overall pick in a down draft. There is your compensation meter.

    Kyrou does score in the playoffs, but appears not to make us harder to play against. He's an RHS player that we really need. He does make us faster, and if Tony's right, we can always use another guy who can enter a zone. 

    Is Tuch even available? How available is Kyrou?

    We don't know if the rumors are right on Tuch, but he has some trade protection. Outside of waivers, Kyrou can block anything. So, I guess the availability question is 2-fold. Does St. Louis want to trade him? Does Kyrou want to move on? Another couple of scratches may help change his mind.

    We've got 4-5 players who make around $4m. One of those guys would have to go, just for cap compliance. They wouldn't be the principle's of the trade, but would be included. It's pretty obvious that St. Louis isn't getting the top 1/2 of our roster right now. It's their pick on our prospects, and, perhaps a top 15 protected '26 1st. 

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    43 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

    I've got questions about Kyrou, but for me, it's probably him or Tuch.

    Is Kyrou a defensive liability? Would he buy into a 200' game? Is he tough enough in the playoffs? Can he score in the playoffs? What type of teammate is he?

    I read a rumor that there was a deal between the Kraken and Blues for Kyrou and the 8th overall pick in a down draft. There is your compensation meter.

    Kyrou does score in the playoffs, but appears not to make us harder to play against. He's an RHS player that we really need. He does make us faster, and if Tony's right, we can always use another guy who can enter a zone. 

    Is Tuch even available? How available is Kyrou?

    We don't know if the rumors are right on Tuch, but he has some trade protection. Outside of waivers, Kyrou can block anything. So, I guess the availability question is 2-fold. Does St. Louis want to trade him? Does Kyrou want to move on? Another couple of scratches may help change his mind.

    We've got 4-5 players who make around $4m. One of those guys would have to go, just for cap compliance. They wouldn't be the principle's of the trade, but would be included. It's pretty obvious that St. Louis isn't getting the top 1/2 of our roster right now. It's their pick on our prospects, and, perhaps a top 15 protected '26 1st. 

    i don't think Wild have a 1st rounder in 2026? they traded it for a defensive stud....

    as for pick on our prospect - it would be either Wally, Yurov or Zeev - which one do you want to move for Kyrou? none right? or maybe Yurov. and Rossi too. that's not smart to do for the Wild. especially giving up two Cs for one W. And i am fairly certain Rossi and a top prospect is needed for us to pry from division rival their star.

    i think it's wise to move on and wait. we have done our share of compulsive deals. wait and save your resources. who knows - maybe Toronto keeps loosing and we can pry Nylander from them...

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    5 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

    Why would STL gift us Kyrou? Ohgren is nothing special-They would want at least Yurov as a prospect and will likely push for Rossi - which I won’t do

    I was trying to be realistic at what it would take to get him, snd if that’s true - I’d walk away and wait

     

    They're healthy scratching Kyrou...shouldn't he be cheap?

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    1 hour ago, mnfaninnc said:

    Kyrou does score in the playoffs, but appears not to make us harder to play against. He's an RHS player that we really need. He does make us faster, and if Tony's right, we can always use another guy who can enter a zone. 

    Sounds like Kevin Fiala. 👍

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