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  • Defense Might Not Be Minnesota Wild's Biggest Draft Need


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    Tony Abbott

    A good reason to never draft for need is that you never quite know what a team's needs will be three years out. Last summer, Minnesota Wild fans saw an enviable amount of young defensemen ready to turn pro. Brock Faber looked stellar in the 2023 playoffs. Daemon Hunt and Ryan O'Rourke had finished their first seasons in the AHL, with Carson Lambos and late-round draft surprises Kyle Masters and David Spacek. The buzz around this group got to the point where speculation arose concerning whether the Wild would trade these players just to decrease the impending logjam.

    One year later, it looks like defense might be the top need for Minnesota entering next month's draft after most of those players struggled. Fortunately, if the Wild are looking to upgrade their blueline, 2024 seems to be the draft to do it. According to Bob McKenzie's Draft Rankings, six of the top-13 players are defensemen. This draft is also believed to be unpredictable, with anything being on the table after Macklin Celebrini goes No. 1 overall to the San Jose Sharks.

    So, 6-foot-7 KHL defenseman Anton Silayev? Perhaps unlikely, but within the realm of possibility. Future Charlie Stramel teammate Artyom Levshunov, who just scored nine goals and 35 points as a freshman at Michigan State, also seems a longer shot to fall to Minnesota's No. 13 overall spot. But as for Sam Dickinson, Zayne Parekh, Zeev Buium, and Carter Yakemchuk? Now we're talking real possibilities for Minnesota to find a top-tier defense prospect.

    If one of those players falls to Minnesota, it might seem like a no-brainer to pick whoever's left. But what if it comes down to a choice between one of them and, say, a top-tier goal-scorer like Cole Eiserman? Or a center like Konsta Helenius, who combines being one of the "safest" players in the draft with offensive upside? That decision will come down to what the organization needs most, but will that be a defenseman?

    We know we just said at the top that team needs shouldn't be a factor, and Wild fans still mourning over passing on Gabriel Perreault last year are going to shout "Best Player Available!" That's great, but there's often no clear-cut "Best Player Available. Was Matt Boldy a better prospect in 2019 than Cole Caufield, for example? There were arguments for either, and sometimes you must make a call between two (or more) fairly evenly-ranked players.

    Like it or not, need becomes a tiebreaker at that point. Predicting the future with prospects is a tricky matter. But thinking long-term, Minnesota probably should lean forward over defense, all things being equal.

    This sounds counter-intuitive for those who looked at just how poorly the Iowa Wild blueline performed this year. Minnesota's AHL club went almost exclusively young on the blueline, a project that appears to be a factor in them finishing last place in their division.

    Hunt, O'Rourke, Lambos, and Spacek played 50-plus games in Des Moines last year. The oldest among them was Hunt, who played the season at age-21. As a group, they struggled mightily, scoring 29, 12, 13, and 12 points, respectively. Masters only drew in 19 times at the AHL level, instead playing most of his time for the ECHL's Iowa Heartlanders. He had 19 points in 32 games. 

    Uh-oh. The thing to remember, though, is these prospects were thrown into the deepest end of the pool with very little veteran leadership. Minnesota used Iowa's captain Dakota Mermis for most of the season, with Mermis playing just five AHL games. That left Andy Welinski (whose Player Try-Out concluded mid-season), Brenden Miller (46 games), and Will Butcher (acquired near the trade deadline) as their only defensemen over the age of 25.

    "I've heard a scout use the term 'They're drinking from a fire hose,' and I thought that was perfect," Matt Hendricks, Minnesota's assistant director of player development, told The Athletic in March. "This has been a very big learning curve." Unfortunately, the players are the ones who get scrutiny when they struggle under extreme circumstances engineered by their organization. It's not helpful or fair to make 24-year-old Simon Johansson or 21-year-olds in Hunt and O'Rourke have to be the veteran leadership by default.

    The thing to remember is that this group boasts as much talent now as it did last year. Iowa observers saw flashes of that talent throughout the year. Even since the AHL season ended, Spacek just won the Gold Medal at the IIHF World Championships, leading Team Czechia's blueline with five points despite averaging 14 minutes over 10 games. 

    While finding some stable veteran mentorship has to be a priority in Des Moines, the Wild are about to get even more young talent in Iowa. 2021 second-round pick Jack Peart finished his career at St. Cloud State University and has two points through a nine-game stint with Iowa last season. He'll be another 21-year-old, but he brings some great skating to the table.

    Last year probably served as a reality check that all these defensemen aren't going to make it to the NHL. But just because there's not an impending logjam doesn't mean there isn't talent. Some of these players will become useful NHLers, and between Lambos, Peart, and Spacek, there are some good bets to unearth a Top-4 player.

    Ideally, you'd want to have that centerpiece that the blueline falls in place around. Good news: The Wild have that -- just not in Iowa. Faber just finished a strong rookie year, scoring 47 points in 82 games despite never being put in an offensive role and breaking his ribs mid-season. His defensive chops were as advertised, and even further growth in his offense (in driving it, if not necessarily scoring) should be seen as a realistic goal for his sophomore season.

    With that foundational player in place, the Wild have the luxury of not needing to develop a No. 1 defenseman. Look at the four teams remaining in the postseason.

    Adam Fox is the New York Rangers' only true star defenseman, but the team is in a good spot because they've built up a solid blueline around him. The Edmonton Oilers are in a similar spot with Evan Bouchard, and -- with all due respect to Brandon Montour and Gustav Forsling -- the Florida Panthers have built their roster that way with Aaron Ekblad. Only Dallas (Miro Heiskanen, Thomas Harley) can be said to have two game-breakers on the blueline.

    Ultimately, talent is talent, and the goal of the draft is to add talent. If the Wild add a Buium or a Yakemchuk to their roster, those are strong additions that will be exciting for the future. But there's little reason to be disappointed if Minnesota goes in another direction and grabs a forward. Again, talent is talent, and with Faber in place as the Wild's No. 1 defenseman for the foreseeable future, the Wild have the luxury of drafting whoever they like best, regardless of position, while feeling reasonably sure the roster construction will work itself out.

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    There should be players of value left at 13.  Even if the BPA is a Helenius or Greentree, you take them.  A team can never predict the future, and should always have a "next man up" mentality in the back of their mind.

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    I know I have been guilty of being too critical of the Iowa d-corps. I did not watch them enough to make a hard critique. Hopefully, two or more of these guys will develop relatively quickly. I agree also about going BPA.

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    Gotta figure, Celebrini, Levshunov, Demidov, Lindstrom, Dickinson, Buium, Silayev, Perahk, Yakemchuk, Iginla, and Eiserman go top 10-11. 

    If I'm MN, I'd be looking to rank the top 3 or 5 guys after that. Catton, Helenuis, and maybe a final guy would probably be there to round out the 13th pick. 

    A couple guys that are in the mix to go there might be Connelly, Sennecke, or Greentree. You could kinda guess the small group MN will be picking from.

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    20 minutes ago, Up North Guy said:

    I know I have been guilty of being too critical of the Iowa d-corps. I did not watch them enough to make a hard critique. Hopefully, two or more of these guys will develop relatively quickly. I agree also about going BPA.

    If Yakemchuk is there at 13th, he's possibly the best player available. Otherwise, I don't see the likelihood of a defenseman being the best guy in that spot. 

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    Good article Tony, but with this organization, team, they have a serious problem scoring. We won’t have the money to grab a top offensive player like Tkachuk or Necas this offseason, so we have no choice but to draft an offensive minded forward, it only makes sense. The Wild cannot compete in this league until we find some consistent scoring.

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    6 hours ago, Ice Creeps said:

    Good article Tony, but with this organization, team, they have a serious problem scoring. We won’t have the money to grab a top offensive player like Tkachuk or Necas this offseason, so we have no choice but to draft an offensive minded forward, it only makes sense. The Wild cannot compete in this league until we find some consistent scoring.

    I agree with creeps.  For love of god Brackett has drafted about 15 dmen already.  Do we trust him to flush a #13 pick on another?   And just say no to the euro Finnish no check jofa Helenius.  Please draft a 6’+ rough neck forward bpa please. 

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    What’s the probability Gus is with team to start season?  Less than 20%.  I’m ok with this
     

    what’s probability Rossi is with team?  Less than 40%.   I’m not ok with this and depending on the return this may be last straw for Guerin & Co

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    Just pick the best player possible at 13th. That's all they need to do.

    If you can get size or a sure NHL defenseman, okay great.

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    I think Guerin is weighing if giving up Gus or Rossi gets them immediate scoring help.  Rossi would fetch a better return, but at the risk of having to make up more ground elsewhere.  I don't know if that is advisable in an iffy year.  Rossi has to return a higher end player now in the NHL to make it worth (2nd line wing or something).  I don't know if going, "Hey, we didn't like Rossi when we drafted him, let's just get a mulligan that helps a year or two later" sets a good precedent.

    Gus fetching a second, or a spot or two in the draft (with 13) or a 2nd might be an idea worth considering.  

    I don't know if other teams are as set in stone in this draft as other years though.  Last year, no one moved for any price.  But if the difference is a Buium or Iginla for a spot or two...maybe?

     

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    1 hour ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    what’s probability Rossi is with team?  Less than 40%

    Enough with the Rossi trade talk. It ain't happening

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    8 hours ago, Ice Creeps said:

    Good article Tony, but with this organization, team, they have a serious problem scoring. We won’t have the money to grab a top offensive player like Tkachuk or Necas this offseason, so we have no choice but to draft an offensive minded forward, it only makes sense. The Wild cannot compete in this league until we find some consistent scoring.

    Eggzackly, that's why they need to get rid of Rossi...

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    2 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    And just say no to the euro Finnish no check jofa Helenius.  Please draft a 6’+ rough neck forward bpa please. 

    Happy to give you a video that is absolutely going to be your first time actually watching Helenius play. 

     

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    2 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    What’s the probability Gus is with team to start season?  Less than 20%.  I’m ok with this
     

    what’s probability Rossi is with team?  Less than 40%.   I’m not ok with this and depending on the return this may be last straw for Guerin & Co

    I'm taking the over on both of these guys. I think your probabilities are off dramatically.

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    8 hours ago, Ice Creeps said:

    Good article Tony, but with this organization, team, they have a serious problem scoring. We won’t have the money to grab a top offensive player like Tkachuk or Necas this offseason, so we have no choice but to draft an offensive minded forward, it only makes sense. The Wild cannot compete in this league until we find some consistent scoring.

    Necas might be difficult to sign, but Brady Tkachuk is affordable. At least, in my trade proposal, it included Boldy, so that's a $1m difference in salary. I also included Rossi, and that's about even money. 

    I still think we can sign Necas longterm. It would be better if we traded and handshaked a lower 1st year with a nice longterm deal afterwards. But if you list Freddie and Johansson at best in the minors, that's an extra $2m to play with (places are taken by ELC players or less).

    There is also the unknown of Spurgeon, who very well could start the year on LTIR. I believe it was this past preseason where he hurt his shoulder, but then it was discovered he had other problems. When you're traveling down the freeway and you consistently see those cars on the side of the road, some with windows bashed in, that kind of reminds me of Spurgeon right now.

     

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    11 minutes ago, Tony Abbott said:

    Happy to give you a video that is absolutely going to be your first time actually watching Helenius play. 

     

    Genuine thanks for the video.  I did not see anything that proves he's a rough neck.  (for the record I saw enough from Liam Ohgzy in small sample size to believe he can play a rough neck game. So credit to Brackzy for this pick).  How has Helenius done in WJC play?  Against guys like McTavish and Stanky Leg when they were playing and dominating against the world.  I don't put much stock into his performance against a bunch of fellow no-check barrel breezer spritzer leaguer's.  Majority will never see an NHL locker room.  

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    There's a lot of talk about just taking the BPA at 13. I'm not rooting for that at all. I'm looking at taking the best player for the organization, and using assets to move up if need be. 

    We can afford to be picky, and if it takes our 2nd to move up into the top 10, to get a guy, then let's do it. Honestly, I think moving Rossi would be a mistake this year unless you're getting someone who absolutely makes the team better statistically and culturally. It would have to move the needle a lot to part with him. 

    But, what I want to see is how he comes to training camp. Did he have another big offseason? If so, maybe he's a keeper? Maybe, just maybe, he's got enough Marchand in him (not with the licking) to have a nice career. 

    I'd also be willing to part with 13 if that helps us get a really good NOW player. A guy like Necas, for example would be worth packaging 13 for. Guys like McTavish and Tkachuk would be well worth the investment. 

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    One of the things that has always bothered me about looking at the draft and hearing comments on it, is most people get blinders on the big club and pay no attention to the pipeline. A lot of times, deficiencies that have been there for a couple of years are clamored for to get filled when this has happened in previous drafts. 

    But, people tend to forget about development. For example, Lambos was chosen the same year The Wall was. But, after a couple of years in jrs. he finally got to Iowa. In fact, we've got a lot of defenders who had down years but are still learning and would be ahead of pretty much any draft pick this year. 

    So, what don't we have in the organization? We don't have much in regards to RHS players. We've got Haight and Stramel at forward and Spacek and Masters (also Johansson) at defense. 

    We've got 2 large bodied forwards, Stramel and Kumpulainen. We've got a couple of upper middleweights in Lorenz and maybe Milne. Bankier needs some strength but could enter the Stramel class. 

    We have 0 big bodied defensemen. 0. Zero. Nada. Zilch. This is a huge problem, and Judd has not been willing to draft for size on defense, he keeps grabbing these smaller, puck moving defenders. This is not about how the draft board fell, this is about avoiding those guys. 

    We've filled the goalie void with a couple of free agent signings, and I don't mind that. Goalies are tough to draft, but one should always be taken in the later rounds. 

    We should not have this many holes in the organization. About the only thing I can buy as far as the draft falling, is with the RHS players. And, really, while I mention that as a priority, it simply isn't a Guerin priority. 

    I do see us with a need of a big bodied defender with an RHS cannon. Picking one of those guys up would be a really good pick. 

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    But if you pick solely for need (a 6'3 defender) who slots on third line, and there's a guy you could have had that goes on to being a 50-70 pt scorer (who is at Rossi or Helenius's size), you kinda kick yourself going, "welp, guess we have a big guy I guess."

    Picking for need should only be when you are absolutely gutted in future need.  Last year, they didn't know Rossi was a 20-goal scoring rookie.  They hedged their bets on 3 centers.

    They have to backfill wing and defense.  I'd say take wing over defense, but only if all the defenders of note are gone. "Settling" for Jiricek sounds like a hockey version of the Bo Nix pick.

     

     

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    Note: I get trying to "build to compete in the playoffs." Sad thing is, you gotta MAKE the playoffs to do it.  I'd rather have 5-10 50-pt players getting us wins over 2-3 giants who "might" win one playoff series when or if size matters.

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    1 hour ago, Willy the poor boy said:

    Eggzackly, that's why they need to get rid of Rossi...

    I hope that was sarcasm because Rossi was our 5th highest goal scorer this past year...

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    46 minutes ago, viper3119 said:

    I hope that was sarcasm because Rossi was our 5th highest goal scorer this past year...

    It was sarcasm. Besides Tony, I may be Rossi's biggest supporter here...

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    Tampa reportedly not resigning  Dumba....anybody think he would work as long as price is right? More immediate help than a draft pick if the guys in Iowa aren't ready.

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    7 minutes ago, NC Beach Bum said:

    Tampa reportedly not resigning  Dumba....anybody think he would work as long as price is right? More immediate help than a draft pick if the guys in Iowa aren't ready.

    Good thought, but we need NOT hang onto old memories of glory days. He got burned regularly against FL playing for Tampa. I like Dumba but the Wild have turned the page, I hope. Don't continue to get bogged down with the wrong players. They need to start getting everything right. There's no more room in my opinion for vets who have some grit and experience. You need to get that from your production guys like the current playoff teams have.

     

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