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  • Could Rasmus Kumpulainen Become 'Matt Dumba If He Played Forward'?


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    Justin Hein

    Born late and drafted within a month of his 18th birthday. Unassuming top-end speed which masks elite edge work and lateral skating. Great NHL size used to even greater effect in the corners and in front of the net. A get-north attitude through the neutral zone, with a preference to set up possession play in the offensive zone. His superpower? A sneaky one-timer from his opposite-hand faceoff dot. 

    Minnesota Wild fans know his game before I even say his name: Rasmus Kumpulainen. 
    That’s right -- even though he won’t join the team next season, Minnesota Wild fans will finally learn the answer to What if Matt Dumba played center? 

    It sounds like a backhanded compliment, but consider how the tools translate from defenseman to center. Dumba was effective on both ends of the ice, killed penalties every night, and made himself useful on the power play with his blistering slapshot. All this squares with the scouting reports on Kumpulainen. 

    From his own goal line to the offensive blue line (and anywhere along the boards), Kumpulainen’s game leaves little to be desired. The Finnish center makes effective breakout passes and can skate north. “Kumps” displays deft hands all over the ice. He’s an eager and effective backchecker, and he also wins pucks on possession play in his own end. Agile skates and a long reach make him a stalwart in defensive transition. In the Wild’s development camp, Kumpulainen recently dusted Danila Yurov in a skating drill. Sure it’s just a drill, but this clip demonstrates how well Kumpulainen maneuvers his giant frame in comparison to a smaller skater. Before Kumps hits that offensive blue line, the only hole in his game is his top-end speed. 

    This all squares with tracking data collected by EliteProspects. The below chart shows “microstats” which are essentially a count of all the little things a player does, such as make a defensive play, make a breakout pass, or skate the puck into or out of the zone. Microstats are a beautiful meeting point of film and analytics, allowing scouts to compare two players’ success rate making the same play in the same areas of the ice. 

    KUMPS PROSPECT MICROSTATS EP CARD.png

    Pay close attention to Kumpulainen’s strongest sections, “Transition” and “Defense.” Kumpulainen creates a ton of controlled exits, which an old-school hockey mind would call a “clean breakout.” The controlled entry rate, which is essentially all offensive zone entries besides dump-ins, is the only blemish. That likely stems from Kumpulainen’s lackluster top speed. 

    In prospect analytics, always note the small sample size. EliteProspects tracked Kumpulainen for 185 minutes over 12 games. For context, public NHL data analysts such as EvolvingHockey.com seek out at least three seasons (typically 1000+ minutes) of NHL data on a player before they’re confident in their analysis. With prospects, that amount of data simply isn’t available due to shorter seasons. That’s part of what makes prospect analysis so difficult, especially data. Beyond that, there’s the issue of translating performance at the lower levels into a picture of their NHL ability. Add to that the three- to five-year gap between draft day and establishing an NHL career, and the task becomes even harder. 

    After speed, the worst part of Kumpulainen’s toolkit is decision-making with the puck on his stick. That isn’t an uncommon problem, as his struggles are most noticeable under pressure. When he’s running out of room in transition or when passing lanes are tight, the Finn struggles to find passing lanes or just fails to execute. On one hand, the whole point of pressure is to force bad decisions or increase the degree of difficulty. On the other hand, this problem was evident at the kunior level. Time and space are rare in the NHL. Therefore, if he struggles with pressure on easy mode, it will be a bigger problem in the Show. 

    This may sound a lot more like “if Jonas Brodin played center.” Hell, why not compare Kumpulainen to Joel Eriksson Ek or countryman Mikko Koivu? First of all, note that the Wild community must not continue to compare every checking line forward to Joel Eriksson Ek. Even if that prospect may be European! It’s reductive to compare all defensive centers to each other because there are so many prototypes of checking line centers. 

    Second of all, Kumpulainen’s offensive traits are reminiscent of Dumba’s preferences for offensive flow. Kumpulainen’s low rush-entry success rate pairs well with his knack for possession offense. While there are issues with his vision as a distributor, his hockey sense away from the puck jumps off the film. He doesn’t focus his efforts at the net front (although he certainly has the frame for it). Instead, he has a true nose for timing his run to the net

    When the opposing team collapses to the net front, Kumpulainen expertly navigates to space high on the weak side of the play to unleash his firecracker one-timer. This is especially apparent in his power play highlights, and frankly, it seems to be the main reason he’s out there. Matt Dumba was also an expert at crashing the net late as the fourth man in and loved to sneak to space on the weak side to blast slapshots. Just like Kumpulainen, Dumba used these skills to become a fixture on Minnesota’s power play in his prime. 

    The best similarity in these players’ games, though, is by far their deceptive hands. Reductively, Dumba was a walking one-timer. Kumpulainen will probably top out as a high-end checking center. Neither one is supposed to be doing things like this: 

    Dumba had that same confidence and flair to try and make one more small play just to open a bit more space. In McKeen’s draft guide, they refer to this side of Kumps’s game as “artistic.” 

    Like Dumba, there are questions about Kumpulainen’s overall game. (However, in Dumba’s game there was little question he’d make the league as the 7th overall pick.) Kumpulainen has encouraging microstats, but his raw production leaves much to be desired. Minnesota’s first-round pick Charlie Stramel slipped from a top-ten prospect to the late first round due to questions about his production. Kumpulainen doesn’t have “questions” -- he just has a problem. 

    KUMPS VS STRAMEL HOCKEY PROSPCTING NHLE CARD.png

    The bar graphs in this graphic from HockeyProspecting.com show NHL Equivalency, a statistic that translates point-scoring into NHL production based on the difficulty of the league. These statistics are blind to any film study and lack the depth of micro-stats, but in this case, it’s highly instructive to the largest problem in Kumpulainen’s game. His offensive game is one-dimensional, and it shows up on the scoresheet. 

    Dumba had this same problem at the opposite end of the ice at times, turning pucks over out of aggression. Imagine Dumba’s production if he were to play forward instead. It’s similarly one-dimensional but supported by a defensive game that’s above average for a forward. 

    For this reason, the comparison really works. Bill Guerin couldn’t bear to see Matt Dumba go, so he drafted his replacement. The only difference is that one lines up inside the faceoff circle and that they pick up their sticks with the opposite hand. 

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    Seems like a strange comparison between two very different players.

    Dumba is a very very good skater, this guy is not.

    Kumpulainen’s biggest weakness at this point is his skating which is fine against junior competition, but will need improvements to be an asset of any kind against professional opponents. His playmaking is also a bit pedestrian, highlighting a lack of ability to spot and hit tougher passing lanes.”

    Kumpulainen’s skating makes me think he’s unlikely to be a high-end contributor in the NHL someday, and his ability to make smart plays at high speeds (also known as “pace”) is lacking at the moment. However, he is on the young end of the draft class (August ‘05 birthday) and already has a pro frame. If Kumpulainen can improve his skating a bit, I think his shot and defensive details will make him a solid bottom-six center in the NHL, including consistent minutes as a penalty killer.”

    “Skating: Below NHL average
    Puck skills: NHL average
    Hockey sense: Below NHL average
    Compete: Above NHL average”

    It was hard to find much about this guy because he was projected to go in the 3rd to 5th round but what I’ve read certainly doesn’t give me the level of confidence this article is trying to suggest.

     

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    4 hours ago, Mateo3xm said:

    Kumpulainen’s biggest weakness at this point is his skating which is fine against junior competition, but will need improvements to be an asset of any kind against professional opponents. His playmaking is also a bit pedestrian, highlighting a lack of ability to spot and hit tougher passing lanes.”

    Kumpulainen’s skating makes me think he’s unlikely to be a high-end contributor in the NHL someday, and his ability to make smart plays at high speeds (also known as “pace”) is lacking at the moment. However, he is on the young end of the draft class (August ‘05 birthday) and already has a pro frame. If Kumpulainen can improve his skating a bit, I think his shot and defensive details will make him a solid bottom-six center in the NHL, including consistent minutes as a penalty killer.”

    “Skating: Below NHL average
    Puck skills: NHL average
    Hockey sense: Below NHL average
    Compete: Above NHL average”

    It was hard to find much about this guy because he was projected to go in the 3rd to 5th round but what I’ve read certainly doesn’t give me the level of confidence this article is trying to suggest.

    Based upon the article, this sounds like to different guys. Are there twin Kumpulainen brothers? Did we pick the right one?

    This was actually a very entertaining article with a lot of thought put in. When I read the headline, I was like WTF, not even close. Now, is this guy the kind of guy who can rule the center of the ice, immediately push the puck to the creative wings and show up for rebounds and tips while owning behind the net?

    One thing I'm hoping Kumpulainen has in his system is the heat seeking missile tendency that Dumba had for dropping someone in open ice. But, could he be sneaky on the one-timers for his line? At least we wouldn't be yelling like we did at Koivu to shoot!

    Looking at the combine stats, Kumpulainen came in at 6'2.75" and 190. He's a young guy for this draft class. I wonder if he is also a late grower? It seems like he still may be adding height. If this is so, I would suspect that he has not adjusted his skating to his new size just yet and he might look a little clunky on the skates for awhile. This would be a natural progression, and as his eyes get adjusted to the longer limbs, he might really improve both with skating and stick skills. 

    What has me confused though are the 2 different reports about his hockey IQ. Judd is a stickler for wanting high hockey IQ guys (as well as smooth skaters) so I think I'm going to trust his judgement on this call. 

    One other notable thing that separates the players-while Dumba was taken much higher, he got in a few games before getting sent back to jr. To me, it looks like Kumpulainen is probably going to take awhile to get here. 

    While perusing the combine stats, Charlie Stramel showed up in quite a few of the top 10 testing exercises. Of note, he was #2 in the bench press 50% of body weight. I'm not sure what that meant for everyone, but if your 222, you're certainly doing more weight than most every other prospect. I don't know if it was reps or whatever, but Stramel shined in the upper body portion of the testing too. That should encourage us all.

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    20 hours ago, Mateo3xm said:

    Seems like a strange comparison between two very different players.

    Dumba is a very very good skater, this guy is not.

    Kumpulainen’s biggest weakness at this point is his skating which is fine against junior competition, but will need improvements to be an asset of any kind against professional opponents. His playmaking is also a bit pedestrian, highlighting a lack of ability to spot and hit tougher passing lanes.”

    Kumpulainen’s skating makes me think he’s unlikely to be a high-end contributor in the NHL someday, and his ability to make smart plays at high speeds (also known as “pace”) is lacking at the moment. However, he is on the young end of the draft class (August ‘05 birthday) and already has a pro frame. If Kumpulainen can improve his skating a bit, I think his shot and defensive details will make him a solid bottom-six center in the NHL, including consistent minutes as a penalty killer.”

    “Skating: Below NHL average
    Puck skills: NHL average
    Hockey sense: Below NHL average
    Compete: Above NHL average”

    It was hard to find much about this guy because he was projected to go in the 3rd to 5th round but what I’ve read certainly doesn’t give me the level of confidence this article is trying to suggest.

     

    Hi Mateo, thanks for reading! Please don't assume that I'm "trying" to suggest anything. I thought for a long while on this comp, but I'm certainly willing to admit it has its pitfalls. 

    You make a great point about the skating, but many scouts note that Kumps is very agile and a great lateral skater, he just lacks top-speed. I think this is a lot like Dumba.

    In watching his highlights, I find his hockey sense is very nebulous. He's great defensively and great in transition until his speed catches up with him. In the zone, he struggles with the puck on his stick but is great away from the puck. 

    There are certainly concerns to be had here -- if Matt Dumba played center, he'd definitely be worse. That's why I think the comp is a good fit. 

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    16 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

    Based upon the article, this sounds like to different guys. Are there twin Kumpulainen brothers? Did we pick the right one?

    This was actually a very entertaining article with a lot of thought put in. When I read the headline, I was like WTF, not even close. Now, is this guy the kind of guy who can rule the center of the ice, immediately push the puck to the creative wings and show up for rebounds and tips while owning behind the net?

    One thing I'm hoping Kumpulainen has in his system is the heat seeking missile tendency that Dumba had for dropping someone in open ice. But, could he be sneaky on the one-timers for his line? At least we wouldn't be yelling like we did at Koivu to shoot!

    Looking at the combine stats, Kumpulainen came in at 6'2.75" and 190. He's a young guy for this draft class. I wonder if he is also a late grower? It seems like he still may be adding height. If this is so, I would suspect that he has not adjusted his skating to his new size just yet and he might look a little clunky on the skates for awhile. This would be a natural progression, and as his eyes get adjusted to the longer limbs, he might really improve both with skating and stick skills. 

    What has me confused though are the 2 different reports about his hockey IQ. Judd is a stickler for wanting high hockey IQ guys (as well as smooth skaters) so I think I'm going to trust his judgement on this call. 

    One other notable thing that separates the players-while Dumba was taken much higher, he got in a few games before getting sent back to jr. To me, it looks like Kumpulainen is probably going to take awhile to get here. 

    While perusing the combine stats, Charlie Stramel showed up in quite a few of the top 10 testing exercises. Of note, he was #2 in the bench press 50% of body weight. I'm not sure what that meant for everyone, but if your 222, you're certainly doing more weight than most every other prospect. I don't know if it was reps or whatever, but Stramel shined in the upper body portion of the testing too. That should encourage us all.

    Regarding Kumps's hockey IQ, I think it depends which games you watch. His hockey IQ is awesome in the defensive zone and in transition. He lacks the speed to look great off the rush, but he builds well in transition. He's also really smart in the offensive zone when one of his teammates has the puck, which is a rare skillset and pairs well with his shot. 

    I don't know if he'll grow up much more, but being young there may be room for him to add some leg strength and speed. This isn't at all uncommon for young prospects who shoot up tall and fill out later. 

    And yeah, Stramel is a freak. He had the second-most bench reps, and he had to bench more than almost everybody who showed up. 

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    Almost like the kind of guy who fills an important role and can be the solid, responsible center who supports offensively inclined wingers while being able to defend against NHL bodies/talent. 

    The Wild got three flavors of center this year. Well-rounded guy and two different guys with some weaknesses but also some raw talents. I like the potential for RasmuKampu and Heidt to round out their game over the next couple years. No reason to expect each of them to become something other than what they are. Just improve certain things while remaining strong in their natural talents. The Wild's draft was a really nice mix.

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    22 hours ago, Justin Hein said:

    You make a great point about the skating, but many scouts note that Kumps is very agile and a great lateral skater, he just lacks top-speed. I think this is a lot like Dumba.

    In watching his highlights, I find his hockey sense is very nebulous. He's great defensively and great in transition until his speed catches up with him. In the zone, he struggles with the puck on his stick but is great away from the puck. 

    These strengths and weaknesses sound an awful lot like Phil Esposito. If he could tip, screen, rebound and shoot in close like this guy, I think we'll be alright!

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