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  • Can the Wild Bet It All On Jesper Wallstedt Next Season?


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    Believe it or not, the Minnesota Wild could start their charge toward the playoffs next season by trading their best goalie from last season. If you're looking to sneak some bar bet victories this summer, you might get some mileage out of the fact that Filip Gustavsson actually had the best save percentage among Wild goalies last year.

    Sure, we're only talking about a .899 mark, but it's surprising considering where Gustavsson's stock is compared to Marc-Andre Fleury (.895 save% in 2023-24). Of course, there are good reasons for the Wild to have shown more confidence toward Fleury down the stretch. Beyond the Hall of Fame pedigree, the 39-year-old turned in 18 Quality Starts in the 36 times he took the ice first. That's a decent-but-not-great .500 Quality Start%. However, you are the most consistent goalie by default when your competition has a .419 mark (18 of 43).

    Still, the growing sense that Gustavsson could be on the move this summer means the Wild will be relying on Fleury, who turns 40 on November 28, and top prospect Jesper Wallstedt. Wallstedt shares a Birthday Month with Fleury but on the opposite end of the aging curve. He turns 22 on November 14. It's risky, but the Wild may be comfortable with Wallstedt at this point in his development, not to mention attracted to their 2021 first-rounder being an apprentice to a Hall of Famer.

    So, let's take a break from hand-wringing about the risk and play this scenario out. What are the Wild hoping will happen if they give Wallstedt a job as a 1A or 1B goalie next year? What can we expect?

    It won't surprise many people to know that it's pretty rare for a goalie to get a significant workload at age-22. Not only does a team have to believe in a goalie performing at an atypically young age, but they must be good enough to stick around. Since the NHL started tracking goalie starts in the 2007-08 season, only 12 players were good enough to start 30 or more games for their NHL clubs at that age.

    Here's how they performed in terms of save percentage:

    Tuukka Rask, 2009-10: .931 (39 starts)
    Matt Murray, 2016-17: .923 (47 starts)
    James Reimer, 2010-11: .921 (35 starts)
    John Gibson 2015-16: .920 (38 starts)
    Andrei Vasilevskiy, 2016-17: .917 (47 starts)
    Sergei Bobrovsky, 2010-11: .915 (52 starts)
    Michal Neuvirth, 2010-11: .914 (44 starts)
    Alexandar Georgiev, 2018-19: .914 (30 starts)
    Robin Lehner, 2013-14: .913 (30 starts)
    Carey Price, 2009-10: .912 (39 starts)
    Ondřej Pavelec, 2009-10: .906 (40 starts)
    Steve Mason, 2010-11: .901 (53 starts)

    There's absolutely survivor's bias at play here. However, the good news is that if a young goalie is sticking around for 30-plus games, they're generally pretty good. Of these 12 names, only Lehner, Pavelec, and Mason finished below the NHL league average. Wallstedt being at that level is a big "if," of course. Still, once he clears the hurdle of proving he belongs in the NHL, his upside is fairly high for next year.

    Someone like Vasilevskiy probably represents an ideal, cautious path for a goalie to work his way into full-time status. At age-20, Vasilevskiy played 25 games in the AHL and started 13 more in the NHL. The following year, he nearly flipped that around, playing 12 AHL games and starting 21 NHL games. Once he was 22, he had 40 games of experience. Wallstedt won't have that going for him. He has just three NHL games (179 minutes) since turning pro at the start of the 2022-23 season.

    But we get another round of good news in that many of these top young goalies didn't have that gradual ramp-up, either. Rask was thrown in a Boston Bruins tandem with just four games of NHL experience (and 100-plus AHL games). Georgiev made just nine NHL starts at age-21 before assuming a larger role the following year. Bobrovsky and Reimer were thrown in cold to the NHL, making their debuts at age-22. 

    So if Wallstedt is ready, he can shine. Again, that's the big "If." Of the 22-year-old goalies that more-or-less got thrown into the deep end, they were mostly dominant talents in their respective leagues. At 21, Rask posted a .915 save percentage in 57 games before going on an insane .930 run in 16 postseason games. Reimer went .921 in 26 games for the Toronto Marlies at 21, getting another 15 AHL games (.920 save%) before the Toronto Maple Leafs called him up the following year. Bobrovsky was a .919 goalie in 35 KHL games at 21 before making the leap to the NHL.

    It's not so clear-cut with Wallstedt, who posted a .910 save% for the Iowa Wild -- barely an improvement over his .908 the previous year. His 2023-24 season with Iowa was full of high highs and low lows. Let's demonstrate by breaking his 45 games down into thirds:

    Games 1-15: .933 (432 saves on 461 shots)
    Games 16-30: .876 (366 saves on 418 shots)
    Games 31-45: .919 (422 saves on 459 shots)

    It would've been more confidence-inspiring if Wallstedt just took two months off in the middle of the year. If he were on the shelf for those middle 15 games, we'd be looking at a goalie with a staggering .928 save% for a bottom-five AHL squad. To put that in perspective, the Nashville Predators may be willing to trade a great goalie in Juuse Saros because they have Yaroslav Askarov, who has a .911 save% in 44 games for the top-five Milwaukee Admirals, waiting in the wings.

    Does that justify potentially throwing out a safety net in Gustavsson via trade? That's a difficult question. Gustavsson has the potential to be solid next year and beyond as a 1B to Wallstedt. Fleury's time here almost certainly maxes out at one year, making it a sink-or-swim situation with Wallstedt beyond 2025. Still, if they think Wallstedt can iron out the inconsistency he showed in the middle of last season, there's precedent for a goalie like him to succeed in the NHL. It's hard to predict much of anything with goaltenders, so perhaps tossing Wallstedt into the pool is the best path forward. 

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    Hey, for all we know, the team could trade Gus+other stuff to Detroit for...Husso and Holl.

    Excuse me while I die inside from laughter.  Fan sites for other teams dreamweird and big too, don't they?

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    I would have preferred Fleury Retired and run with Gus(1) and Wall(2).  BG saw different.  Our roster needs help.  Gus traded is 3.75M in our back pocket.  Gives us options that we don't have otherwise.

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    Keep Gus and Flower as 1A / 1B (or vice versa) for 24-25, and keep the Wall in Iowa as 1C getting plenty of starts and learning (together with the rest of the team) how to win.   Bring up the Wall when (inevitably) Gus or Flower get injured or sick and put him right into the rotation, which should get him 10 or so NHL games.

    Then Gus and the Wall (both with more experience and, ideally, with MAF as a "goalie consultant) go 1A/1B in 25-26 when the worst cap penalties are over.

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    1 hour ago, MNCountryLife said:

    Gus traded is 3.75M in our back pocket.  Gives us options that we don't have otherwise.

    This is true, but, Goose staying also gives us options, injury protection, and he's not breaking the bank. If we run 3 goaltenders, we would be running the same cap in goalies as we did this past season. I would recommend betting on Goose having a bounce back year and playing The Wall fairly consistently. The Wall was very good against weak competition and any goalie would have struggled that night in Dallas as gassed as the team was.

     

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    There's some pretty good goalies in that list. 

    Askarov was supposed to be an all world goalie too, and his draft year was 1 year ahead of The Wall. It kind of makes you wonder why he wasn't elevated full time last season to Nashville?

    On the one hand, The Wall has got to see the speed of NHL shooters. He needs to work on his angles and drifting. On the other hand, Goose, Fleury and The Wall have all spent some time on the injured list, and I think you can probably guarantee that if Fleury sees a lot of action, he'll hurt himself again. It's only a matter of time before the rubber band snaps.

    My preference would have been running with Goose and The Wall, having Fleury in the back pocket to sign in a "break glass in case of emergency" type of situation. I'm really concerned if we send Goose packing and the injury bug hits. For me, I think there is a lack of quality goaltending around.

    One other item, I did not see Oettinger on that list. Vasilevskiy is a special talent. Is The Wall ready for 40 games? 

    I'll give Tony credit, he stated it was a risk. I just don't think it's a risk we need to take. I watched the Canes this year have their top guy go down and it really messed with their game. They could out shoot and out play a team by double and still lose. I watched one of those games, and there were several. Demoralizing is probably too light of a word to use. And our guys are mentally shaky.

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    3 hours ago, MNCountryLife said:

    preferred Fleury Retired

    This was my hope also. Sure it’s fun to have MAF around but I don’t think it gives the Wild their best shot at competing. Gus could always be traded after next year if The Wall breaks out. Everyone keeps talking about MAF mentoring JW but with their dramaticly different styles of play personally I think that reasoning is overblown. JW comes from a hockey family, heavy on the goaltending side. But hey maybe I’m wrong and MAF’s second career is as a goalie whisperer. 

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    1 hour ago, Burnt Toast said:

    This was my hope also. Sure it’s fun to have MAF around but I don’t think it gives the Wild their best shot at competing. Gus could always be traded after next year if The Wall breaks out. Everyone keeps talking about MAF mentoring JW but with their dramaticly different styles of play personally I think that reasoning is overblown. JW comes from a hockey family, heavy on the goaltending side. But hey maybe I’m wrong and MAF’s second career is as a goalie whisperer. 

    Agreed their styles are way different. Fluery needs to move on. Keep Gus & the WALL. 

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    14 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

    One other item, I did not see Oettinger on that list. Vasilevskiy is a special talent. Is The Wall ready for 40 games? 

    With the bar set at 30+ games, looks like Oettinger just missed. He played 29 games for Dallas in 20-21, posting a .911 save percentage.

    So far, Oettinger has a .917 postseason save percentage for his career, and .918 in this playoffs. I know a lot of people don't want to see the Stars win it all, but Oettinger hoisting the trophy wouldn't be a terrible thing to me. His team is the best in the West!

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    16 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

    On the one hand, The Wall has got to see the speed of NHL shooters. He needs to work on his angles and drifting. On the other hand, Goose, Fleury and The Wall have all spent some time on the injured list, and I think you can probably guarantee that if Fleury sees a lot of action, he'll hurt himself again. It's only a matter of time before the rubber band snaps.

    Yeah, if Gus were gone, I'd be concerned for either goalie missing time. Fleury needing to play 55-60 games would be bad. Wallstedt might be a little better if forced to play a heavy slate of games, but definitely seems best to avoid it.

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    18 hours ago, Citizen Strife said:

    Hey, for all we know, the team could trade Gus+other stuff to Detroit for...Husso and Holl.

    Excuse me while I die inside from laughter.  Fan sites for other teams dreamweird and big too, don't they?

    You win the interwebz this week! 😂🤣

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    18 hours ago, MNCountryLife said:

    I would have preferred Fleury Retired and run with Gus(1) and Wall(2).  BG saw different.  Our roster needs help.  Gus traded is 3.75M in our back pocket.  Gives us options that we don't have otherwise.

    Performance-wise I agree. 
     

    The word is that Gus doesn't take his fitness seriously. The Wall doesn't need to learn that habit. GMBG wants Flower to be the hands-on teacher for The Wall.

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    14 hours ago, Burnt Toast said:

    Everyone keeps talking about MAF mentoring JW but with their dramaticly different styles of play

    It's more about the off-the-ice stuff...Gus has some bad behaviors.

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    9 minutes ago, FredJohnson said:

    GMBG wants Flower to be the hands-on teacher for The Wall.

    The highest paid goalie coach in the league, and not as good as Gustavsson between the pipes. The fitness stuff is old news. Gus has given indications that he's motivated to be more focused on that stuff moving forward.

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    45 minutes ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

    The fitness stuff is old news. Gus has given indications that he's motivated to be more focused on that stuff moving forward.

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    28 minutes ago, FredJohnson said:

    A lot depends on how much can be had for trading Gus.

    And that is the key right there.  What is the ROI.  Using it to keep talent that we would otherwise lose or bringing in talent that we didn't have and what is the upgrade.  If we spend it on a player that is $2M AAV quality...then keep Gus.  If we can snag a $4M AAV quality player... then move Gus.  We will gain more than we lose.

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    19 hours ago, bisopher said:

    Keep Gus and Flower as 1A / 1B (or vice versa) for 24-25, and keep the Wall in Iowa as 1C getting plenty of starts and learning (together with the rest of the team) how to win.   Bring up the Wall when (inevitably) Gus or Flower get injured or sick and put him right into the rotation, which should get him 10 or so NHL games.

    Then Gus and the Wall (both with more experience and, ideally, with MAF as a "goalie consultant) go 1A/1B in 25-26 when the worst cap penalties are over.

    Lots of folks keep talking about Flower as a coach or consultant. I am not sure where that is coming from. Yes, he has stated that he and his family like living in Minnesota. He also is building a home for his retirement in Vegas where he also loved living and was adored by the fans. I suspect that Vegas will be home and the lack of state income taxes will help overcome any misgivings he may have.

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    2 hours ago, MNCountryLife said:

    And that is the key right there.  What is the ROI.  Using it to keep talent that we would otherwise lose or bringing in talent that we didn't have and what is the upgrade.  If we spend it on a player that is $2M AAV quality...then keep Gus.  If we can snag a $4M AAV quality player... then move Gus.  We will gain more than we lose.

    Agreed.

    Or if the other team will take Frauddie and NoJo...they can have the Gus Bus. (Only slightly joking)

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    We have 3 goalies for about 7m in cap tied up. The Wall needs a break in season of 10-20 games during Flower’s last season. We need to see if Gus bounces back and develops better work habits so he can stick around after next season. Seems to be a good set up for our situation. 

    There are 36 UFA and 34 RFA goalies this summer so it is not looking like Gus will draw interest that will give us the value we would want to trade him. 

     

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    I'd probably trade Gus if I could. I was against extending him in the amount the Wild spent last year because I didn't believe he'd proven he was reliable. It doesn't really matter now as Gustavsson it's in the past, but I feel the same way about him this time around.

    The Wild don't have the luxury of hanging on to a bunch of parts. There is no wiggle room with their brutal dead cap.

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    1 hour ago, bean5302 said:

    I'd probably trade Gus if I could. I was against extending him in the amount the Wild spent last year because I didn't believe he'd proven he was reliable. It doesn't really matter now as Gustavsson it's in the past, but I feel the same way about him this time around.

    The Wild don't have the luxury of hanging on to a bunch of parts. There is no wiggle room with their brutal dead cap.

    100%. His value last Summer was at it's max. Another goalie could have been found and given what happened with Fleury playing a lot of games and being durable it kinda seemed like that woulda been a better timing. Now the doubt remains. He can be good, but if you're long-term planning for Wallstedt, then why delay? Thinking he would take a step forward last off-season is alright because, give him that chance. Now it's kinda like trade him or last chance before Wallstedt jumps him in the rotation as Vaj sneaks up and Fleury retires. 

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