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  • Bill Guerin Looks Like He's Going Pick Up A Win In the Marco Rossi Negotiation


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    Justin Hein

    If you google “What happened on April 25, 2025?” the search engine paints a negative picture. An escalation of Indian-Pakistani tensions in Kashmir, a measles outbreak in the US, and the mourning of Pope Francis, who died just four days earlier. 

    All of these pale in comparison to the misfortune which befell Marco Rossi on that date. 

    April 25 is the date of The Athletic’s report of the Minnesota Wild’s contract offer to Marco Rossi: five years, with a $5 million AAV. By my own estimates, that’s over $2 million per year below a fair market value. Even after accounting for Rossi’s RFA status, it’s 30% lower than my projection.

    Rossi and his agent’s response has been what most people expected: They shopped for alternative offers. Surprisingly, nothing stuck. A player who had been low-balled by about $2 million per year was unable to find an offer on the open market to exceed that value. At least, not one worth signing. 

    On his most recent Worst Seats in the House podcast, Michael Russo reported that Rossi’s agent is essentially done shopping for an offer sheet. 

    Rossi’s leverage is essentially gone. Barring a last-minute surprise offer sheet, Bill Guerin has won. 

    But how is that possible? It’s one thing for the Wild to undervalue Rossi’s contract, or even just low-ball him as a negotiating tactic. There are 18 teams with the requisite draft pick compensation to offer sheet Marco Rossi. How is it possible that all of those teams came to the same conclusion on Rossi’s deflated market value? 

    It’s simple: On April 25, 2025, The Athletic published the words, “According to multiple league sources, the Wild offered Rossi a five-year, $25 million contract earlier this winter.” 

    Reading between those lines, the only “league sources” that could leak this to the media are members of the Wild organization who were part of those negotiations. 

    To be clear, this isn’t some conspiracy between the Wild organization and members of the media to depress Rossi’s market value. When reporters like Russo get the chance to report that information to the public, it’s their job to publish that report. Instead, this is a master stroke on Guerin’s part. By leaking this information, he’s essentially negotiating through the media.  

    After that April 25 report, why would any of those 18 teams meaningfully exceed Wild’s 5 x $5 million offer? 

    There are two conclusions that those teams could make: 

    1. We can get Marco Rossi on a much cheaper offer sheet than we initially thought.
    2. For some reason, Minnesota views Rossi as damaged goods, and we should stay away.

    Both conclusions depress Rossi’s market value. 

    At this point, Rossi’s only leverage over the team would be a holdout. It’s true that that would put the Wild in a bind, given that 2025-26 is Year 3 of the Wild’s “five-year plan.” On the other hand, holding out past December 1 would make Rossi ineligible to play in the 2025-26 season. That would cost him a great deal in the immediate term and could also damage his long-term value. 

    Missing a year of NHL hockey isn’t widely viewed as a sound development strategy. 

    Would Guerin risk a slow start to the regular season? The Wild play 26 games before December 1. Perhaps in years past, that would have been out of the question. However, with Joel Eriksson Ek, Ryan Hartman, Danila Yurov, and Nico Sturm already on the roster, Minnesota could probably get away with its center corps sans Rossi for a third of the season. 

    Rossi’s team is quickly running out of leverage and running out of time before he starts missing game checks. 

    Meanwhile, the Wild still have multiple levers to pull. The Rossi contract appears to be a step forward for Guerin as a negotiator, who has historically agreed to inefficient contracts for veterans. However, he has used long-term deals for young players like Matt Boldy, Joel Eriksson Ek, and Kirill Kaprizov as a method of reducing annual costs. Those long-term deals for young players inflate the cost of the deal in early years and increase the risk to the team. 

    That strategy won’t remain efficient with the Wild entering a competitive window. 

    A short-term deal for Rossi maximizes the team’s leverage during his RFA years while maximizing the team’s flexibility to trade Rossi. They may decide to pivot to a player with another style on the ice, or Yurov may make Rossi expendable. That would allow the team to address holes in the top-six forward group or on the bottom defense pair if youngsters Liam Ohgren, Zeev Buium, or David Jiricek don’t cut it in those roles for a championship run. 

    In the meantime, Rossi acts as insurance if Yurov can’t handle a top-six center role. 

    On the other hand, tense negotiations such as this Rossi extension can have a shelf life. If Rossi becomes dissatisfied with his role and doesn’t put any stock into his relationship with the team, he could force his way out. That would reduce his trade value, which defeats the purpose of that roster flexibility brought by a shorter contract. 

    If Guerin makes a habit of taking contract extensions for Yurov, Buium, or other prospects all the way to the brink, each of those contracts becomes another stress point for that roster flexibility in the same way that Rossi could. Eventually, any one of those players could demand a trade. 

    For now, though, the Wild and their fans appear to be winners in this deal, at the cost of Rossi’s bank account. Even if this blows up in Guerin’s face in a calendar year, it pays dividends at the 2026 trade deadline. For every dollar the Wild save on this deal, they get back about $4.5 million in deadline-day cap space. The difference between Rossi at $5 million versus $6 million per year can drastically affect the type of player Minnesota adds in March. 

    Call it heavy-handed, short-sighted, or a negotiating masterclass. With the dust all but settled, Guerin has won. 

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    And Guerin just lost some negotiation leverage...Frank Nazar signed a 7 year x $6.6 Mil deal. He is younger, produced fewer points and the same size as Rossi. 

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    Instead, this is a master stroke on Guerin’s part. By leaking this information, he’s essentially negotiating through the media.

     Crediting bill with 3D chess skills contradicts what we’ve been watching for seven years   

     

    Call it heavy-handed, short-sighted, or a negotiating masterclass. With the dust all but settled, Guerin has won

    heavy handed is not illegal and is sometimes just good business and I agree bill has won (if he signs Rossi).  If bill gives him away to VAN for some journeyman grinder and a 3rd , that’s just Bill being Bill

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    I don't buy the conspiracy.  Russo has created most of the controversy with his messaging on Rossi, always suggesting the Wild don't love him, and are likely to trade him, and asking about contracts or other free agents they like.

    It's Russo's job to report on the Wild, and he does deliver some interesting stuff, but at some point, I think Guerin was tired of Russo suggesting that he doesn't like Rossi and gave the information that they Wild had offered the $5M deal across 5 years as an indication that he wouldn't offer a contract of that nature for a player he doesn't like.

    Please note how many 5+ year deals Guerin has issued as GM and let me know if any of them were bad contracts.  Guerin's job is to deliver the best team he can on the ice, and that likely includes getting a good deal on Rossi, not paying top of the market prices to retain a restricted free agent.

     

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    BG may have the upper hand at the moment in the Rossi negotiations, but the unintended consequences may be free agents not wanting to sign here in the future.  A Tarasenko salary dump was his big addition this offseason.

    If BG doesn't re-sign 97, he's fired.  If Wild miss playoffs this season, fired.  Another first round playoff exit, he's definitely in the hot seat, but my gut tells me he would still get one more season.

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    33 minutes ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

    It's Russo's job to report on the Wild, and he does deliver some interesting stuff, but at some point, I think Guerin was tired of Russo suggesting that he doesn't like Rossi and gave the information that they Wild had offered the $5M deal across 5 years as an indication that he wouldn't offer a contract of that nature for a player he doesn't like.

    Please note how many 5+ year deals Guerin has issued as GM and let me know if any of them were bad contracts.  Guerin's job is to deliver the best team he can on the ice, and that likely includes getting a good deal on Rossi, not paying top of the market prices to retain a restricted free agent.

    Fair if you think the leak was just a basic announcement to the media. 

    However, I think that five years at $5 AAV in this cap environment is much lower than the production Rossi put out in '24-25. Projecting him forward at a $5 MM value for the next five years is an insane haircut given his age, production, two-way ability, and rising cap environment. 

    It's clear that the league has a distaste for something in his build or playstyle. 

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    6 minutes ago, Justin Hein said:

    It's clear that the league has a distaste for something in his build or playstyle. 

    I think it’s more about play style.  And it may be related to how he’s not overcoming his size.  Give me an example P-Brain.  Ok, when he plays against top 6 centers he’s unable to hold his own on the defensive side of the puck.  If Russo knew the game he would have reported this.  Lapanta, carts, king etc are all on Wild payroll so they’re not going to explain this.  Judd AJ are Vikings fans who drew short straw and had to do a hockey show.  Weird that in state of hockey we don’t get to have a hockey writer who can analyze the game

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    6 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said:

    I think it’s more about play style.  And it may be related to how he’s not overcoming his size.  Give me an example P-Brain.  Ok, when he plays against top 6 centers he’s unable to hold his own on the defensive side of the puck.  If Russo knew the game he would have reported this.  Lapanta, carts, king etc are all on Wild payroll so they’re not going to explain this.  Judd AJ are Vikings fans who drew short straw and had to do a hockey show.  Weird that in state of hockey we don’t get to have a hockey writer who can analyze the game

    And this is not shade on the HW overlords.   In order to make the determination on Rossi a reporter would need to be at the game watching the play away from the puck which you don’t get on TV.  

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    The Euro game is generally not a hard, "kill or be killed" mentality. NA hockey has produced the Tom Wilsons, Brad Marchands, Mark Stones, Matthew Tkachuk, etc. 

    There's a lot of good players who aren't ever gonna be that kind of guy on the ice. Hard to play against. That is the issue for Marco. This is a big year for him to prove otherwise. I'd take 40 points and more of a well-rounded guy, but the contract timing is now. 

    His 60pts is nice, but not as valuable in the big picture compared to an Ek style game and size. Rossi has been durable. 

    I think he just needs to get a bridge contract and have another good year. Maybe have a better playoffs and that can be the end of the long debate. For a lot of people, he still has to prove some things. 

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    I think Rossi should follow BullyG for a couple of days and learn how to implement some FU in his game.

    It seems like he's putting in the effort to get bigger and better.  Now he needs to get meaner (on the ice).

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    17 minutes ago, NoJoSux said:

    His 60pts is nice, but not as valuable in the big picture compared to an Ek style game and size. Rossi has been durable. 

    60 points is nice, but when Hartman scored 65 for the Wild, I don't recall too many people saying he needed to be making more than Eriksson Ek, and certainly nobody was saying he needed more than a million above Eriksson Ek.

    The Wild understand that Kaprizov elevates points for everyone around him, and that Rossi's point totals dropped off steeply when Kaprizov wasn't around, just like has happened for Hartman or Zuccarello when they are not playing with KK97.

    Chandler Stephenson averaged 62 points per game playing with some of Vegas' top players, but they weren't going to pay him $6m+ because they knew he wasn't driving the scoring for the line. He was a useful player, but not a key piece.  He's how heading into year 2 of a long-term deal at $6,250,000 that nobody thinks was a good investment.

    Rossi could develop into more than he's shown, and I hope he does so with the Wild, but let's not pretend that the Wild are treating him unfairly. I like Rossi. When many fans were ready to give up on Rossi, I was here saying you cannot give up on him so early--he still had time to deliver on his promising prospect evaluation. That doesn't mean that I don't think both Rossi and the Wild can come out in a good situation here.

    The Wild are going to offer Rossi a contract that pays a lot of money and hope that he outperforms it--like contenders often do. They are not pay top dollar while he's a restricted free agent and just hope for the best, like lottery-bound teams are more likely to do.

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