Article: The Wild Should Empty the Cupboards For Sidney Crosby If He Becomes Available

[Tony Abbott]

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[viper3119]

How about no....

[bisopher]

That's a no from me, too.  Especially if it's for Wallstedt and Yurov.

[Quebec1648]

The only big name I want Guerin to add, is Brady Tkachuk (or his brother). Even then, I would reject the idea of trading Yurov or Wallstedt. 

The Wild have to balance making a serious playoff run now, without completely mortgaging the farm.

[hydguy75]

Within KK's career, hopefully QH's also, while here with the Wild, I keep foreshadowing 3 chances of the Wild in the SC Finals.  An All-In showdown for 1 season / 1 chance with an MVP triplet tends to never go a MN sports teams' way.  Call me naive, but let's finally build a cup-worthy dynasty over many seasons, by not freely giving away our growing assets.  

Adding QH to me means we can now attract and fill a 1C or 2C that is great on the dots.  It's going to be costly, yes, but we have a few roster slots that cost more than than should for what we get in return.  Coughing up Yurov or Wally means we regress and back to perpetually mediocrity the league thinks we are, with more hot and cold streaks than Nicolas Cage.  

[FredJohnson]

He’d get injured right away and retire.

[Patrick]

Only if it's cheap.

Edited yesterday at 03:55 AM by Patrick

[B1GKappa97]

10 hours ago, Quebec1648 said:

The only big name I want Guerin to add, is Brady Tkachuk (or his brother). Even then, I would reject the idea of trading Yurov or Wallstedt. 

The Wild have to balance making a serious playoff run now, without completely mortgaging the farm.

You're not getting a Tkachuk without adding at least one of those two, and likely both, to the deal lol. 

[B1GKappa97]

Its definitely a conundrum. Unlike Buium, it seems like both Yurov and Wallstedt are capable of making big contributions to the club without lowering the floor by giving them ample NHL icetime. I think that's a big part of the reason that both were safe from being included in the deal for Hughes. 

Idk that I want to see us give up on them right now though. They're both playing so well and both are so cheap for the next couple seasons that they're a huge value for a team that's going to need cap-space for next year if they want to continue to add pieces. 

If I were Billy, I'd be trying to get the most bang for my buck. Crosby would cost too much. What about Ryan O'Reilly though? Nashville is allegedly treating him like he has a NTC, so that will limit the places he's willing to go, which means you shouldn't have to pay a premium for him. And he's just as good at faceoffs as Crosby and has a history of clutch play in the post-season as well. Plus he's on a cheap AAV for this year and next. 

He'd be a great fit for this team, you wouldn't have to worry about putting Ek with Kaprizov in the playoffs to protect him because ROR can do that just as capably. If he came here, he'd have a great shot at another Cup and could really put us over the top without costing us a Yurov or Wallstedt (even if that's what they'd be hoping for.) We've got other prospects and a 2027/2028 1st we could offer the Preds instead.

[Fezig]

It would be great to have Sidney, but the cupboards are already pretty empty and getting rid of more of the future would lead the squad to become more pathetic than Buffalo. 

[Teeroy]

What are you putting in your eggnog?!!!

[B1GKappa97]

1 hour ago, Fezig said:

It would be great to have Sidney, but the cupboards are already pretty empty and getting rid of more of the future would lead the squad to become more pathetic than Buffalo. 

They're definitely not empty. He has a 1st round pick in 2027 and 2028 he could offer up. If we're giving up a 2028 pick, hopefully it would be to land a big fish with some term. IE a Tage Thompson, potentially. 

We also have some players who are doing great in the NCAA right now in Stramel and Ritchie. 

It would hurt, but there's also Yurov and Wallstedt with no trade protection. I'm not a big fan of trading off Wallstedt and I've enjoyed watching Yurov this year.. but if it takes a Yurov to land a Tage Thompson (or a Jack Hughes?!) I'm absolutely fine cashing in that long-term potential for a win-now option just like they did with Zeev for Hughes. 

[Imyourhuckleberry]

That Tarasenko guy might have something left after all. Quite the game on Tuesday for his Russian line with Yurov and Trenin.

[mnfaninnc]

47 minutes ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

That Tarasenko guy might have something left after all. Quite the game on Tuesday for his Russian line with Yurov and Trenin.

It just had the feel of Russia night. Vodka for everyone after the game?

[MrCheatachu]

Hear me out...

SillyG signed Jack Johnson to the PTO earlier this year in order to grease the skids in getting a Penguins reunion.  JJ's PTO was entirely to get him reach out to Sid to feel him out to come back and re-live their glory days of Shattucks.

SillyG not offering Johnson a contract meant that Sid poured cold water on the whole shebang, and didn't want to grab a Fleury-esque final lap with MN.

I'm pretty sure Guerin already tried this, but Sid politely turned them down.  Sid's going to retire a Penguin, it wouldn't feel right to go down any other way.

[mnfaninnc]

I was thinking something similar to what Tony is thinking, but I only think that Crosby would come here IF he asked to. And, he's at the stage of his career where he could do that. If he did so, I would think the return wouldn't be such that it would affect his shot at the Cup, and to do that, I think the Wild need The Wall and Yurov. 

I like the ROR idea put forth by BK and ODC. That does solve a problem, and he may even be a bit hungrier than Crosby. 

The problem I'm seeing with any team in the East is that I can look on Monday or Friday and many of the playoff positions have changed. Buffalo is more in the chase than anyone thinks, one heater and they could be in. And one losing streak and a 2nd place team now could be out. That being said, I think for Dumas, playoffs are important, and in the East, anything can happen now that FL has injuries. 

So, for me, the availability of Crosby is very shadowy. Nashville, however, looks about a half step ahead of Vancouver right now, so I'd think ROR would be available. Heck, Stamkos already is. He's been here once, maybe we just reacquire him? And, I've always admired his 200' game and lack of taking penalties. 

I still think it's futures and prospects we need to be sending the other way, not rostered players. I believe we need those rookies badly. Yes, it's Sidney Crosby, but he doesn't play the full 60 minutes. Only the goalies do that. There's got to be somebody left over, and we're not getting anywhere with the Jones' and Pitlicks still playing a role.

[Pewterschmidt]

1 hour ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

That Tarasenko guy might have something left after all. Quite the game on Tuesday for his Russian line with Yurov and Trenin.

A round of borscht for the table!!

[Dis-allowed display name]

Absolument pas.   

I think Wally and Yurov have something.  Wally for sure.  There is a decade of beyond solid goaltending with that guy and Crosby is nearing the end.

I might feel differently about letting one of them go for somebody in a universe where Hughes had already signed an extension with the Wild and you were sure that deal was not going to blow up in our faces.

[MNCountryLife]

Old Mother Hubbard says the cupboard is bare.

 

[Aimlessone]

2 hours ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

That Tarasenko guy might have something left after all. Quite the game on Tuesday for his Russian line with Yurov and Trenin.

I know, right!? That line was hot all night. If that can continue....

[Scalptrash]

You don't empty what's left in the cupboards for one shot. If you are going to empty the cupboards it should be for someone that can contribute for years.

I can't imagine a bigger train wreck than over spending on Crosby and getting bounced in the first round and then Quinn not re-signing. I guess MN would finally learn what a true rebuild looks like if that all happens. 

Tage Thompson would probably cost the same but be a significantly better value and addition. I don't think Jersey would ever part with Jack Hughes. I'm sure they believe Quinn will still end up there some day, even though they wouldn't "sack up" for him right now (he ain't happy about that).

Anybody watching Zegras this season? He was very getable. Another C, that actually contributes, would come in handy right about now. Too bad the Wild chose Tarastanko (minus last nights' aberration). 

[MNCountryLife]

The Faber/Hughes connection has been amazing to watch.  They exit the zone quickly and with puck control.  Several times the 2 of them led the offensive charge up the ice.  Really fun to watch two D-men take control.  It was very noticable when they were not paired together as well.

BG just pulled off a historic trade and everyone is looking for the next one.  I'm still enjoying this one.  I would expect the next one happen much closer to the TDL.

[Dango]

Grab Malkin at the Deadline  shouldnt be to expensive for a playoff run .

[Dango]

21 minutes ago, Dango said:

Grab Malkin at the Deadline  shouldnt be to expensive for a playoff run .

Imagine Ekk ,Malkin  6-3 212  back to back PP-1  PP-2